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Re: Biafra Shocker!!! Sunday Oliseh Refused To Be called Igbo!!! See 0:35 - 0:40 by ezeagu(m): 9:46pm On Aug 02, 2015 |
CHM11: He didn't actually say he's an Ika man, he just blurted out he's not Igbo as if there was something wrong with that, if he simply said my name is actually Ika it would have made sense, he didn't mention Ika once, he simply referred to Abavo as a small village. 3 Likes |
Re: Biafra Shocker!!! Sunday Oliseh Refused To Be called Igbo!!! See 0:35 - 0:40 by Ojiofor: 9:48pm On Aug 02, 2015 |
B69U:Nzeogwu's nieces and nephews and other relatives maybe doing Sunday Ogochuckwu Olise today,I mean deny they aren't Igbo.Who knows?May Amadioha strike dead anybody who term blood thirsthy Nzeogwu coup an Igbo coup. 8 Likes |
Re: Biafra Shocker!!! Sunday Oliseh Refused To Be called Igbo!!! See 0:35 - 0:40 by cheruv: 9:49pm On Aug 02, 2015 |
Afam4eva:Pls Post the link..I'd love to see how shamelessly dressed sweetlemon was 3 Likes |
Re: Biafra Shocker!!! Sunday Oliseh Refused To Be called Igbo!!! See 0:35 - 0:40 by patrick89(m): 9:49pm On Aug 02, 2015 |
B69U: I tell you! we have suffered! I'm not bothered about his Ika association! but whenever The people commit anything they should group them properly! just like Emefiele and iwuala received all the attack because they are igbos. when Nzeogwu led the coup, igbo people especially the SE are still suffering from that! yet they will come and deny igboness, but they will carry the igbo names up and down! the igbos from SE will always bear the brunt! 8 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Biafra Shocker!!! Sunday Oliseh Refused To Be called Igbo!!! See 0:35 - 0:40 by CHM11: 9:53pm On Aug 02, 2015 |
ezeagu: Oh, if he sounded arrogant and insultive then its understandable. But if he just said he is not igbo, in a cool tone then there's nothing wrong in saying you are not what you are not. 5 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Biafra Shocker!!! Sunday Oliseh Refused To Be called Igbo!!! See 0:35 - 0:40 by Stolen: 9:54pm On Aug 02, 2015 |
And to think he was selected as a substitute for Steven Keshi based on his igbo roots. They might as well hand the coach to Celestine Babayaro since the pacification for Keshi removal is not igbo. 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Biafra Shocker!!! Sunday Oliseh Refused To Be called Igbo!!! See 0:35 - 0:40 by ezeagu(m): 9:59pm On Aug 02, 2015 |
CHM11: The thing is, the statement is loaded with history, especially history of especially Ika people not only partly denying they are Igbo, as well as benefiting from the trajectory of the wider Igbo people under the guise of Anioma, but there's also anti-Igbo sentiment in his tone, it was completely unnecessary for him to say he was not Igbo, he could just say his name and say where he was from. He just sounded insecure, as if he didn't want any Igbo person associating with him, and that's fine, but don't try and insult anybody, and that's why he's being scolded. 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Biafra Shocker!!! Sunday Oliseh Refused To Be called Igbo!!! See 0:35 - 0:40 by fr3do(m): 9:59pm On Aug 02, 2015 |
ezeagu: we dont have to come from Anambra to be Igbos. We are Igbos ourselves by virtue of our culture which has more than 85% similarity with say Igbo-Ukwu. We also have similarities with the Binis, but these similarities are always taught to be indigenous to Bini due to the documentation of their history that potrays them as some ethnic Garden of Eden of the midwest. We are probably aboriginal Igbos that came under rule by some expansionist Benin Oba, and our monarchs and royals originally could have been from Bini. 7 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Biafra Shocker!!! Sunday Oliseh Refused To Be called Igbo!!! See 0:35 - 0:40 by tpiander: 9:59pm On Aug 02, 2015 |
Stolen: Huh ? 1 Like |
Re: Biafra Shocker!!! Sunday Oliseh Refused To Be called Igbo!!! See 0:35 - 0:40 by asha80(m): 10:01pm On Aug 02, 2015 |
Stolen:errr i doubt he was selected because of his roots..let us be factual here 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Biafra Shocker!!! Sunday Oliseh Refused To Be called Igbo!!! See 0:35 - 0:40 by cheruv: 10:02pm On Aug 02, 2015 |
CHM11:The Jekri people have no territorial contiguity with Igboland so where did the Igbo names come from They're surrounded by Ofei,Bini,Sobo & Izon tribes so its natural they answer names from those places. Stop peddling lies to buttress a weak point.. moreover the Ikas are Igbos that migrated from owere in the 11th century so it's wrong for them to deny their heritage In Biafra, they'd ve their own cultural area which would also be a province with autonomous powers to develop at their pace but that's it.in history, they served as the westernmost fortress of Igboland and would continue to do so. 7 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Biafra Shocker!!! Sunday Oliseh Refused To Be called Igbo!!! See 0:35 - 0:40 by ezeagu(m): 10:03pm On Aug 02, 2015 |
Stolen: That's the problem, people like him and others from "Igboid" groups who have a history of having people not only completely disassociating themselves from the Igbo people, but also being openly anti-Igbo, like the Ika and Ikwere, also do not disclaim the benefits they get from being associated with being Igbo, like Tonto Dikeh (Ikwere) and Sunday Oliseh (Ika), they still benefit from being part of something they supposedly hate being a part of, or at least a good amount of their people do. 5 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Biafra Shocker!!! Sunday Oliseh Refused To Be called Igbo!!! See 0:35 - 0:40 by Nobody: 10:04pm On Aug 02, 2015 |
Change2015: Hw cum u know more abt igbo deltans dan igbos demselves 6 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Biafra Shocker!!! Sunday Oliseh Refused To Be called Igbo!!! See 0:35 - 0:40 by Stolen: 10:05pm On Aug 02, 2015 |
asha80: Are u one of them? Spend all day on igbo thread talking with igbo people, answering igbo name and engaged in our culture but not igbo? Are u mad? 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Biafra Shocker!!! Sunday Oliseh Refused To Be called Igbo!!! See 0:35 - 0:40 by Ritchiee: 10:06pm On Aug 02, 2015 |
Udmaster:I think you Oha eaters are the most pathetic of all... Udmaster:I think you Oha eaters are the most pathetic of all... 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Biafra Shocker!!! Sunday Oliseh Refused To Be called Igbo!!! See 0:35 - 0:40 by Stolen: 10:07pm On Aug 02, 2015 |
ezeagu: They should drop our names, culture and language. It is that simple. I hate imposters. They bring us too much trouble and dont understand that we are already fine, they choose to attach themselves to us and not the other way round. Bring trouble our way. 5 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Biafra Shocker!!! Sunday Oliseh Refused To Be called Igbo!!! See 0:35 - 0:40 by asha80(m): 10:09pm On Aug 02, 2015 |
Stolen:if you know me and my posts you will not ask me these questions...remove emotions and tell me if the coach of the nigerian national team is chosen because he is igbo?if that is the case why was siasia chosen in the past or foreign coaches?..ple be reasonable 6 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Biafra Shocker!!! Sunday Oliseh Refused To Be called Igbo!!! See 0:35 - 0:40 by omonnakoda: 10:11pm On Aug 02, 2015 |
He would not make such a statement unless his father told him that.That is the truth !! 9 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Biafra Shocker!!! Sunday Oliseh Refused To Be called Igbo!!! See 0:35 - 0:40 by CHM11: 10:12pm On Aug 02, 2015 |
oluwalfa:True. But in some situations, especially with minorities, a clan is the tribe. In ika land, do u know there are subclans? By Igboland and Yorubaland you mean? Would you classify the yorubalike speaking itsekiris under yoruba land? Or the Yorubalike speaking akoko edos under yorubaland? Do you know there are yorubalike tribes in togo, Benin even as far as serria-leone? These people refuse to be called yorubas explicitly...you hear names like esan, akokoedo, afemai, itsekiri, fon, ewe etc...that's their tribe, not yoruba. As regards the ika people, I am not ika so I can't speak for them, but if Sunday Oliseh's view is carried by many of his kinsmen, then they are Ika, their language might sound igbotic but its IKA language as they have called it, not igbo. If they can't call your anambra pure igbo as Ika or ukwanni, then you shouldn't be at liberty to call their own Ika language as igbo. I understand your point tho. Me I just wish we should learn to live and let live. 9 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Biafra Shocker!!! Sunday Oliseh Refused To Be called Igbo!!! See 0:35 - 0:40 by Stolen: 10:14pm On Aug 02, 2015 |
asha80: This is not a debate and u did not ask a valid question. Nigeria being diverse, wen u remove a person from a position, to appease the group they belong and avoid accusation of tribalism, u replace them with another person from the same group. It is not a coincidence that Oliseh and Keshi are both from Anioma Delta. Is the Nigerian national team Deltan? However, this scenario is not always the case but based on the evidence was applicable in this case. 1 Like |
Re: Biafra Shocker!!! Sunday Oliseh Refused To Be called Igbo!!! See 0:35 - 0:40 by CHM11: 10:18pm On Aug 02, 2015 |
cheruv:Like I said, if they say they are not igbos, that they are ika, you MUST respect them for who they say they are...you wouldn't force your tribe on them. You can't cry of oppression and bondage in Nigeria yet you don't want minorities like these ones to be free...... I believe there is an english word starting with H for such character. 8 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Biafra Shocker!!! Sunday Oliseh Refused To Be called Igbo!!! See 0:35 - 0:40 by asha80(m): 10:20pm On Aug 02, 2015 |
Stolen:mehn you are off point..this is not political appointment ...if that is the case then why did siasia replace amodu?are they from the same state?no go talk this thing were ardent football watchers day oo.keshi replaced siasia are they from the same state? 2 Likes |
Re: Biafra Shocker!!! Sunday Oliseh Refused To Be called Igbo!!! See 0:35 - 0:40 by CHM11: 10:21pm On Aug 02, 2015 |
ezeagu:Oh that was very wrong of him (the anti igbo tone). I thought someone asked him if he is igbo. 1 Like |
Re: Biafra Shocker!!! Sunday Oliseh Refused To Be called Igbo!!! See 0:35 - 0:40 by ezeagu(m): 10:21pm On Aug 02, 2015 |
Abeg, let's watch something more inspirational: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ps4-UPHneeI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9Ihs241zeg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iCermULRk-I https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZ8Kpk2FPCc 3 Likes |
Re: Biafra Shocker!!! Sunday Oliseh Refused To Be called Igbo!!! See 0:35 - 0:40 by Stolen: 10:21pm On Aug 02, 2015 |
CHM11: I know this voice, it is that mischievous nairalander again. May Amadioha scatter your yansh. fool! Are u even African? U sound like those people that have lost their way in Europe, with that greek u speak and foreign culture u are trying very hard to sell to hardcore Africans. Ur head needs to be checked. Mad man! 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Biafra Shocker!!! Sunday Oliseh Refused To Be called Igbo!!! See 0:35 - 0:40 by omonnakoda: 10:23pm On Aug 02, 2015 |
Stolen:Very churlish thing to say "drop our names" The reality is that many groups that call themselves Igbo today never did so before Nigeria was created to the question of ownership of language or names is silly. What about names like Peter and Paul and Marinus that Ibos use everywhere. We speak English and use it on this website does that make us English? This desire to bully and intimidate minorities should be eschewed. He said he is NOT IBO and that is the end of it 8 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Biafra Shocker!!! Sunday Oliseh Refused To Be called Igbo!!! See 0:35 - 0:40 by omonnakoda: 10:27pm On Aug 02, 2015 |
ezeagu: That is YOUR OWN interpretation.It may well be that he has introduced himself to Ibo people and they start speaqking Ibo to him it may be anything that is all speculation. Bottomline he felt for reasons best know to him to put in ON RECORD that he is not Ibo as is his right 8 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Biafra Shocker!!! Sunday Oliseh Refused To Be called Igbo!!! See 0:35 - 0:40 by B69U: 10:31pm On Aug 02, 2015 |
Ojiofor: My brother that is correct. Wen i meet them and they say that they are igbo na argument done start be that, becos that word igbo is of value to me and i dont want any daft using it. See as Sunday they drop heavy igbo names, proper old village igbo names, come round up with am not igbo. If i sit down for chair there, he will not continue until he withdraws the igbo names. I tell both Delta and Rivers people to their face that they are not igbo and should use their own names to avoid confusion. Proudly Igbo! 7 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Biafra Shocker!!! Sunday Oliseh Refused To Be called Igbo!!! See 0:35 - 0:40 by CHM11: 10:31pm On Aug 02, 2015 |
Stolen:This one needs deliverance 6 Likes |
Re: Biafra Shocker!!! Sunday Oliseh Refused To Be called Igbo!!! See 0:35 - 0:40 by EasternLion: 10:31pm On Aug 02, 2015 |
omonnakoda: Ok but why didn't Nzeogwu answer Kaduna IKAnaworo, so everyone will know where he comes from? I am still suffering today as a result of his actions, these people should just stop answering our names and pick English names to themselves or use their own name. 6 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Biafra Shocker!!! Sunday Oliseh Refused To Be called Igbo!!! See 0:35 - 0:40 by Deltagiant: 10:33pm On Aug 02, 2015 |
CHM11: At the bolded, unfortunately since after the civil war, the Ikas and Ukwuanis amongst the four segments of native Igbo speakers in Delta state are divided on whether they'd identified with what they actually speak. The other two, Oshimmili and Aniocha do not have much of this problem. Sunday is free to choose whether he'd like to be identified with his language or not, but that doesn't negate the fact that others from Abavo and the rest do not identify as Igbos. If Sunday Oliseh goes to Onitsha market he will not need an interpreter to make his bargains in Igbo language. What he'll speak will be mutually intelligle to the people. Therefore, , there is nothing like their language sounding Igbotic., It is IGBO and nothing more. How he chooses to be identified notwithstanding! His town was mentioned as one of the ancient Nri outpostshttp://logbaby.com/encyclopedia/history-of-nri-kingd_15828.html#.Vb6JV_ntmko 5 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Biafra Shocker!!! Sunday Oliseh Refused To Be called Igbo!!! See 0:35 - 0:40 by ezeagu(m): 10:34pm On Aug 02, 2015 |
omonnakoda: But I'm speaking as someone who knows Ika people well. Do you know any Ika? Why would he have to clarify he's not Igbo because people were speaking Igbo to him when most if not all Ika-speaking people can speak standard Igbo and are taught so in school? The fact is, he could just have said he was an Ika, which he didn't say, which means his main point was to distance himself from being Igbo. That's fine, but next time he gets support from the Igbo community or gets an appointment because someone assumed he was Igbo he should say that first before stretching out his hand. That's all. 9 Likes 1 Share |
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