CHM11:

All because he said he is Ika and not igbo so the major igbos isolated him?

Meeeeeehn God, this Biafra should do and come oh.

B69U:
OP is mischievous just like Oliseh.


If only Kaduna Nzegwu their brother, could see the slave his people have become.



Kaduna Nzegwu people are not igbo, I wish Gowon and Co knew this back then, alot of us igbos would have been spared all the trouble.


Imagine calling a coup led by Kaduna Nzegwu and yoruba officers igbo coup.



Ndiigbo we have truily suffered.


Oya Sunday drop the two igbo names before them go blame us for the madness wey dey una bloodline.

Afam4eva:

Don't sweat it. I understand your pain. Among all the ckntestants, you were the one whose torso was close to being seeen and you lost to someone who was well covered up and Igbo. Like I said, I understand the pain. You campaigned so much for an online pageant and lost, that must have been very brutal.

B69U:
OP is mischievous just like Oliseh.


If only Kaduna Nzegwu their brother, could see the slave his people have become.



Kaduna Nzegwu people are not igbo, I wish Gowon and Co knew this back then, alot of us igbos would have been spared all the trouble.


Imagine calling a coup led by Kaduna Nzegwu and yoruba officers igbo coup.



Ndiigbo we have truily suffered.


Oya Sunday drop the two igbo names before them go blame us for the madness wey dey una bloodline.

ezeagu:


He didn't actually say he's an Ika man, he just blurted out he's not Igbo as if there was something wrong with that, if he simply said my name is actually Ika it would have made sense, he didn't mention Ika once, he simply referred to Abavo as a small village.

CHM11:


Oh, if he sounded arrogant and insultive then its understandable.
But if he just said he is not igbo, in a cool tone then there's nothing wrong in saying you are not what you are not.

ezeagu:
I know about Ika, I speak it a little. The truth is people from Ika and Ukwuani are actually confused and uncertain about their relationship with an Igbo identity, you could get some that would say they are Igbo, some would even say they're not Igbo they are "Ibo", and many who would act as if Igbo is a different ethnic group (and harbor strong anti-Igbo sentiment, like the rest of western delta areas, unfortunately). They're not actually sure where they stand, I say this because even the Obi of Owa, an Ika town that's even closer to Edo State than Abavo has confirmed that their history stems from what is now Anambra State. I find that the people who disclaim being Igbo usually don't have that 'Igbo spark' in them, they don't have that thing about them that you recognise when you see an Igbo person and even when some of them claim to be Igbo it doesn't always sit well. This makes more sense when you look in the history of these towns and find that a massive portion of the families that settled there were actually Edo people and not Igbo people, and were acculturated into a hybrid Edo-Igbo society.

Stolen:
And to think he was selected as a substitute for Steven Keshi based on his igbo roots.

Stolen:
And to think he was selected as a substitute for Steven Keshi based on his igbo roots.



They might as well hand the coach to Celestine Babayaro since the pacification for Keshi removal is not igbo.

CHM11:

I love you my akwaibom wife...muuuuuuuaaaaaah!!!
If Oliseh say's he is not igbo, that he is ika....why don't u respect him as an Ika man?

Ika can be part of Biafra if they choose to but if they decide to be called ika people rather than igbo people I feel its best they are respected and identified as who they are.

The itsekiris for example answer both igbo and yoruba names,....does that make them yoruba or igbo?...NO, they are itsekiris....
The Ika people cant come out tomorrow to say all other igbos are Ika and not igbo...I'm sure igbos from imo, abia, anambra, enugu and ebonyi won't accept such pronouncement from the Ika people.

My view, just respect people for who they choose to be....don't call them something else....

Stolen:
And to think he was selected as a substitute for Steven Keshi based on his igbo roots.



They might as well hand the coach to Celestine Babayaro since the pacification for Keshi removal is not igbo.

Change2015:


Most of the Ibo deltans I know do not associate with talk of the fantasy biafra and think there is a difference once you cross onitsha bridge. Freedom of association!

asha80:
errr i doubt he was selected because of his roots..let us be factual here

Udmaster:
you ewedu eaters are pathetic!

Udmaster:
you ewedu eaters are pathetic!

ezeagu:


That's the problem, people like him and others from "Igboid" groups who have a history of having people not only completely disassociating themselves from the Igbo people, but also being openly anti-Igbo, like the Ika and Ikwere, also do not disclaim the benefits they get from being associated with being Igbo, like Tonto Dikeh (Ikwere) and Sunday Oliseh (Ika), they still benefit from being part of something they supposedly hate being a part of, or at least a good amount of their people do.

Stolen:


Are u one of them? Spend all day on igbo thread talking with igbo people, answering igbo name and engaged in our culture but not igbo?


Are u mad?

oluwalfa:


A clan is different from a tribe
An Ika man is to Igboland what an Egba man is to yorubaland

asha80:
if you know me and my posts you will not ask me these questions...remove emotions and tell me if the coach of the nigerian national team is chosen because he is igbo?if that is the case why was siasia chosen in the past or foreign coaches?..ple be reasonable

cheruv:

The Jekri people have no territorial contiguity with Igboland so where did the Igbo names come from
They're surrounded by Ofei,Bini,Sobo & Izon tribes so its natural they answer names from those places.
Stop peddling lies to buttress a weak point.. moreover the Ikas are Igbos that migrated from owere in the 11th century so it's wrong for them to deny their heritage
In Biafra, they'd ve their own cultural area which would also be a province with autonomous powers to develop at their pace but that's it.in history, they served as the westernmost fortress of Igboland and would continue to do so.

Stolen:


This is not a debate and u did not ask a valid question.


Nigeria being diverse, wen u remove a person from a position, to appease the group they belong and avoid accusation of tribalism, u replace them with another person from the same group.


It is not a coincidence that Oliseh and Keshi are both from Anioma Delta. Is the Nigerian national team Deltan?


However, this scenario is not always the case but based on the evidence was applicable in this case.

ezeagu:


The thing is, the statement is loaded with history, especially history of especially Ika people not only partly denying they are Igbo, as well as benefiting from the trajectory of the wider Igbo people under the guise of Anioma, but there's also anti-Igbo sentiment in his tone, it was completely unnecessary for him to say he was not Igbo, he could just say his name and say where he was from. He just sounded insecure, as if he didn't want any Igbo person associating with him, and that's fine, but don't try and insult anybody, and that's why he's being scolded.

CHM11:

Like I said, if they say they are not igbos, that they are ika, you MUST respect them for who they say they are...you wouldn't force your tribe on them.

You can't cry of oppression and bondage in Nigeria yet you don't want minorities like these ones to be free...... I believe there is an english word starting with H for such character.

Stolen:



They should drop our names, culture and language. It is tha simple. I hate imposters.


They bring us too much trouble and dont understand that we are already fine, they choose to attach themselves to us and not the other way round. Bring trouble our way.

ezeagu:


He just sounded insecure, as if he didn't want any Igbo person associating with him, and that's fine, but don't try and insult anybody, and that's why he's being scolded.

Ojiofor:
Nzeogwu's nieces and nephews and other relatives maybe doing Sunday Ogochuckwu Olise today,I mean deny they aren't Igbo.Who knows?May Amadioha strike dead anybody who term blood thirsthy Nzeogwu coup an Igbo coup.

Stolen:


I know this voice, it is that mischievous nairalander again. May Amadioha scatter your yansh. fool!


Are u even African? U sound like those people that have lost their way in Europe, with that greek u speak and foreign culture u are trying very hard to sell to hardcore Africans. Ur head needs to be checked. Mad man!

omonnakoda:
Very churlish thing to say "drop our names" The reality is that many groups that call themselves Igbo today never did so before Nigeria was created to the question of ownership of language or names is silly. What about names like Peter and Paul and Marinus that Ibos use everywhere. We speak English and use it on this website does that make us English? This desire to bully and intimidate minorities should be eschewed. He said he is NOT IBO and that is the end of it

CHM11:

True.
But in some situations, especially with minorities, a clan is the tribe. In ika land, do u know there are subclans?

By Igboland and Yorubaland you mean? Would you classify the yorubalike speaking itsekiris under yoruba land? Or the Yorubalike speaking akoko edos under yorubaland?
Do you know there are yorubalike tribes in togo, Benin even as far as serria-leone? These people refuse to be called yorubas explicitly...you hear names like esan, akokoedo, afemai, itsekiri, fon, ewe etc...that's their tribe, not yoruba.

As regards the ika people, I am not ika so I can't speak for them, but if Sunday Oliseh's view is carried by many of his kinsmen, then they are Ika, their language might sound igbotic but its IKA language as they have called it, not igbo.

If they can't call your anambra pure igbo as Ika or ukwanni, then you shouldn't be at liberty to call their own Ika language as igbo.

I understand your point tho.
Me I just wish we should learn to live and let live.

omonnakoda:


That is YOUR OWN interpretation.It may well be that he has introduced himself to Ibo people and they start speaqking Ibo to him it may be anything that is all speculation. Bottomline he felt for reasons best know to him to put in ON RECORD that he is not Ibo as is his right