FKO81:
More evidence
Ijebus Are From Sudan, Awujale Insists

In an interview with P.M.NEWS in his palace at Ijebu Ode, the monarch, when reminded of his claim in 1983 that the Ijebus are from Waddai in Sudan, said every tribe in the country migrated from somewhere.

Says Oba Adetona: “Let me tell you, there are ways of settlements, even before Oduduwa came to Ile-Ife, Ife was already in existence. All you just have to do is go to history books, you’ll see all these things there.”

Reminded that the statement is often used against the Ijebus with people regarding them as aliens, Awujale described such act as rubbish, saying “how can they use it against the Ijebus? Who is using it against them? What about others? Are they not from other areas before they settled here?”
http://www.pmnewsnigeria.com/2010/06/25/ijebus-are-from-sudan-awujale-insists/.....

Your article merely says the Ijebu migrated from somewhere called Sudan, and settled in what is present day Nigeria to become part of Yoruba land. Even the traditional ruler of Ijebu agrees that everybody migrated from somewhere.

You have still not answered my former question: "Is Adetona, not a Yoruba name?" Or is it a Sudanese name, or an Igbo name?

laudate:


Guy, the article you quoted did not say anything wrong. I was merely replying to Cheruv who keeps insisting that Awori and Ijebu are NOT Yoruba, when everyone in the South-West knows that they are clearly Yoruba.

Even the sections I highlighted in your article supports this. Their traditional ruler is Oba Sikiru Adetona. Tell me, is Adetona not a Yoruba name??

Aworis, Ijebus are not Yoruba

laudate:


Your article merely says the Ijebu migrated from somewhere called Sudan, and settled in what is present day Nigeria to become part of Yoruba land. Even the traditional ruler of Ijebu agrees that everybody migrated from somewhere.

You have still not answered my former question: "Is Adetona, not a Yoruba name?" Or is it a Sudanese name, or an Igbo name?

Is Chibike Amaechi and Ifeanyi Okwa not an Igbo names?

FKO81:

Aworis, Ijebus are not Yoruba

Hahahaha...!! What a joke! I don't want to believe that the money spent on your education was wasted! Chai!

Were you not the same one posting all those highlighted articles that showed that Ijebus are Yoruba, just now?? Did you settle down to read them yourself at all?

Show me the exact sentence in the article that says Ijebu and Awori are not Yoruba. And I will show you the one that says they are!

ROFLMAO!! Una no go kill person with laughter in this place, biko nu!

FKO81:

Is Chibike Amaechi and Ifeanyi Okwa not an Igbo names?

What is my own business with Amaechi and Okowa?

Was that the question I asked you? Answer the main question I asked you and stop perambulating all over the place!

laudate:


What is my own business with Amaechi and Okowa?

Was that the question I asked you? Answer the main question I asked you and stop perambulating all over the place!

Ijebus are Sudanese

Even the Ijebus differ from the Yoruba in many respects. For example, while the main Yoruba group practice circumcision on both male and female members of the family, the Ijebus never practice it on the female members; the Yorubas used to bore the lower part of the ear in both male and female while the male never bore in Ijebu.

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FKO81:

Ijabus are Sudanese

Even the Ijebus differ from the Yoruba in many respects. For example, while the main Yoruba group practice circumcision on both male and female members of the family, the Ijebus never practice it on the female members; the Yorubas used to bore the lower part of the ear in both male and female while the male never bore in Ijebu.

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I have warned you bastard to stop screaming Yoruba everywhere. Face your cursed red mud land, the thread is not about Yoruba. Your own disgrace is loading and we piling it up for you. Be warned.

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FKO81:
No wonder during the confab Lagos representatives never supported regional government, I wonder what will be the faith of Oduduwa land when Nigeria split? I guess that's why they are fighting tooth and nail for one Nigeria

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You are a certified nitwit, you have been posting trash everywhere lately like a mad dog. Anyone that disagree with you must you Yoruba. The curse is truly manifesting in your pathetic life. U go hear am...

after1:
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I have warned you bastard to stop screaming Yoruba everywhere. Face your cursed red mud land, the thread is not about Yoruba. Your own disgrace is loading and we piling it up for you. Be warned.

Descendant of a fallen demon, you would still blame Igbos for your tribal marked, tiger-like, horrid looking faces...

after1:
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I have warned you bastard to stop screaming Yoruba everywhere. Face your cursed red mud land, the thread is not about Yoruba. Your own disgrace is loading and we piling it up for you. Be warned.

Ewu Osun your worst nightmare is here, please HE GOAT don't disturb us

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FKO81:

Ewu Osun your worst nightmare is here, please HE GOAT don't disturb us

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Accursed son of a w/hore, You are whose nightmare? You will regret ever towing this path, go ask those before you. I will frustrate your pathetic life on this forum, your foolish mother will cry for you. I am following you already....

Okada drop me here. I can see some flat head making noise.

FKO81:

Ijebus are Sudanese

Even the Ijebus differ from the Yoruba in many respects. For example, while the main Yoruba group practice circumcision on both male and female members of the family, the Ijebus never practice it on the female members; the Yorubas used to bore the lower part of the ear in both male and female while the male never bore in Ijebu.

Kai! Let me guess....you failed SSCE, NECO, JAMB etc all put together?? Or were you always falling asleep in class during history lessons?

So in your view it is only the differences in circumcision and ear piercing that makes the Ijebu not to be called Yorubas, right?

Ok, were you not the same person that posted this part of the article or did you just conveniently ignore this section cited below, which says the Ijebu are regarded as 'peripheral Yoruba', but ..."Time itself has taken care of these legends as the various groups of people in Western Nigeria have come to accept a common Nationality as Yoruba, be they Ekiti, Ijesha, Egba, Ondo, Ijebu etc"

FKO81:

The bulk of Yoruba people regard the ljebus as peripheral Yoruba while the ljebus themselves do not hide the fact that the cohesion between them and others who call themselves central Yoruba has been the result of cultural and political interaction over the centuries. Time itself has taken care of these legends as the various groups of people in Western Nigeria have come to accept a common Nationality as Yoruba, be they Ekiti, Ijesha, Egba, Ondo, Ijebu, etc..

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Now, answer the question about their Oba's name - Adetona.

laudate:


Kai! Let me guess....you failed SSCE, NECO, JAMB etc all put together??

So it is only the differences in circumcision and ear piercing that makes the Ijebu not to be called Yorubas, right?

Ok, were you not the same person that posted this part of the article or did you just conveniently ignore this section cited below, which says the Ijebu are regarded as 'peripheral Yoruba', but ..."Time itself has taken care of these legends as the various groups of people in Western Nigeria have come to accept a common Nationality as Yoruba, be they Ekiti, Ijesha, Egba, Ondo, Ijebu etc"


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Now, answer the question about their Oba's name - Adetona.

IJEBUS ARE SUDANESE THEY ARE MIGRANTS
"The bulk of Yoruba people regard the ljebus as peripheral Yoruba while the ljebus themselves do not hide the fact that the cohesion between them and others who call themselves central Yoruba has been the result of cultural and political interaction over the centuries"

mcvaeey:
n the words of K.O. Amadi (1993), “Traditions suggest that Ikwerre is a nickname given to Iwhnuruọhna people…..

The name of the grand ancestor is Akalaka. Their relations in Rivers State are Ekpeye and Ogba people. The reigning Oba of Benin when Akalaka, the ancestor of Ihruọha (later called Iwhnurọhna) fled was Oba Ewuare (Ogwaro).

It is noteworthy that the pedigree and name of Ikwerre people, Iwhnurọhna, obviously took its root from this original name – Ihruọha. Chief Solomon therefore establishes a very vital historical link, which has been missing in literature on Ikwerre origin that would assume more significance in the discourses of Ikwerre genealogy in the future – the fact that Akalaka was the direct father of Ihruọha (Ikwerre). Iwhnurọhna, in Ikwere parlance, means the face of the community (town, city or village).

Read the above. Akalaka a Benin man gave birth to Iwhnurọhna = both the name of the father and his son are Igbo names and yet he's from Benin.

See also:

Iwhnurọhna

Ihruọha

Impressed at the ingenuity at bastardizing and creatively mispelling Igbo names. See gymnastics. Quite astounding.

Also,

"Iwhnurọhna, in Ikwere parlance, means the face of the community (town, city or village)."

Iwhnurọhna = Ihruọha = Iruoha =
Iroha = face of the community (town, city or village or public or public face in Igbo.

Wow.

So tomorrow someone can say my name is not debola, it's dhebolar and insist on its accuracy.

Anyway, no comment.

Failure is an orphan. Success has many fathers. Focus on yourself. Build your house well. If u do, others will identify with you. They will even beg you for citizenship. US is a case in point.

O gwu m, n'onu.

FKO81:


IJEBUS ARE SUDANESE THEY ARE MIGRANTS

You need help! True! The Oba of Ijebu has a traditional title called Awujale. His full names are Oba Sikiru Kayode Adetona (born 10 May 1934). He is the son of Prince Rufai Adetona and Alhaja Ajibabi Adetona (née Onashile) and represents the Anikinaiya ruling family. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sikiru_Kayode_Adetona

Since you have deliberately decided to peddle lies as your trade mark, I have helped you by posting the relevant facts about their Oba.

Now answer this question, why would people you refer to as Sudanese people decide to have a man with a Yoruba name as their king?

FKO81:
[b]Ikwerre people

This article is about the Ikwerre as a native ethnic group. For the language, see Ikwerre language. For the local government area, see Ikwerre, Rivers State.

The Ikwerre (also spelt Ikwere) are one of the many native ethnic groups in the Niger Delta region of Nigeria. They are a subgroup of the Igbo people, although a small minority for political expediency now dispute this account, claiming their history was rewritten during the colonial period because of the dominance of the larger Igbo group. The Ikwerre are said to be related or share common ancestry with the Ogba and Ekpeye people (Akalaka brothers).[citation needed] They trace their origins to Owerri, Ohaji, Etche, and Ngwa areas of Igboland. They constitute the majority of Rivers state, although there are other populations in neighboring states. The Ikwerre speak the Ikwerre dialect, a dialect part of the many diverse Igbo dialects,[4] and are predominantly settled in the Ikwerre, Obio-Akpor, Port Harcourt and Emohua local government areas. They are traditionally farmers, fishermen and hunters, but in recent times, the environmental degradation and urban sprawl associated with oil exploration and exploitation has caused a sharp decline in the amount of farmland, forests and rivers available for their traditional occupations.
The Ikwerre exist in well-delineated clans, with each clan having its own Paramount Ruler, therefore, the Ikwerre do not have an overall paramount ruler or King, but designated kings/ruler/leader mostly approved by its constituents. Although all paramount rulers in ikwerre are united in what is known as Ogbakor Ikwerre which is an association of Ikwerre traditional rulers. A total of 92 oil wells, producing an estimated 100,000 barrels of crude daily, are located in Ikwerreland. The Ikwerre therefore play host to several multinational oil-producing and servicing companies, in addition to many other industries and establishments. Despite these, the Ikwerre, like nearly all other minorities of the Niger Delta, frequently complain of marginalisation by the oil operatives. The University of Port Harcourt, the Rivers State University of Science and Technology, the three campuses of the Rivers State College of Education, as well as the Rivers State College of Arts and Science, are all sited on Ikwerreland

Origin

[b]The Ikwerre are considered by a great majority of scholars as a subgroup of the Igbo people of southeastern Nigeria,
There are several theories over the origin, and the strongest and most widely accepted one is the theory linking the Ikwerre to an Igbo origin] They would be descendents from an Igbo migration from Awka and Orlu areas towards South. Igbo scholars take Ikwerre as part of the Southern Igbo. Amadi, an Ikwerre scholar, says that the Igbo origin theory has some support even inside Ikwerre themselves, with Ikwerre would be descendants of a migration of Arochukwu Igbo, with Okpo Nwagidi being the leader of the Ikwerre tribe. Before the civil war, there had been dissident voices that claimed that Ikwerre could have migrated from Owerri, Ohaji, Ngwa, and Etche areas of Igboland.[5] But when Port Harcourt was conquered by Nigeria during the Biafran War and the Igbo people from other parts of Igboland fled the territory, a UN report says that the Ikwerre decided to claim that the Ikwerre were non-Igbo for convenience.The Ikwerre are recognized officially as a separate group in the 1979 Nigerian Constitution[/b]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ikwerre_people#cite_note-ihemere-5

Lol, 1979 constitution placing Ikwerre as different from the Igbo?
Who made the constitution? Fulani-loyal soldiers plotting to divide the former Southeast region of Nigeria into pieces so that as the region was being exploited and raped by Nigeria, no strong opposition groups could arise from any where in the former Southeast region.

Amaechi fall mugu to that phenomenon.

EdCure:
The ibos entered as settlers in droves, grabbed their land and forced their language on them. Same tactic they're trying to replicate in all SS states through the Biafra project.

The Igbos also forced the Ikwere people to change their surnames to Igbo abi?

FKO81:


IJEBUS ARE SUDANESE THEY ARE MIGRANTS
"The bulk of Yoruba people regard the ljebus as peripheral Yoruba while the ljebus themselves do not hide the fact that the cohesion between them and others who call themselves central Yoruba has been the result of cultural and political interaction over the centuries"

You haven't finished...continue. What does the next line say about the Ijebus??

Eē! Mbè àna-àtụ n̄tụ!

Passingshit:
Ikwerre Edo? Thunder fire you and your family, op! I'm from Emohua, graduated from UNIPORT, and I know my origin. Even though we're not fully considered Igbos wetin wan carry us reach Edo? thunder fire you again!

No sane person, except economic rapists would say Ikwerre people are Edo.

The civil war ended and every body was looking for safe landing. Even Onitsha man or Aba-Ngwa man then found it very convenient to say that he was not Igbo. And would any right-thinking person blame the man?
Shortly after the war, Ikwerre people placed in Rivers state had more convenience than Onitsha or Aba- Ngwa man to claim that they were not Igbo - just for survival in Nigeria then.

The rain has poured in torrents, we now know what the nyash of the fowl looks like, therefore,
any Ikwerre fellow that continues to say he/she is not Igbo is a great mugu.

FKO81:

Coward go claim Ilorin leave Aniomas and Ikwerres alone
History of Ilorin
lorin was founded by the Yoruba , one of the three largest ethnic groups in Nigeria, in 1450. It became a provincial military headquarters of the ancient Oyo Empire, it later become a Northern Nigeria protectorate when the Shehu Alimi, a descendant of Shehu Usman Dan-Fodio, took control of the city through the spread of Islamic religion. The capital was occupied by the Royal Niger Company in 1897 and its lands incorporated into the British colony of Northern Nigeria in 1900, although the emirate continued to perform ceremonial functions.[2] Although the city retains a strong Islamic influence from the northern incursions , Christianity is now widely practiced by significant portions of other Nigerians originating from other states. Ilorin is the largest city and the official capital of Kwara State.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ilorino

Good one there lolz..yorubas should first battle for the soul of illorin instead of instigating troubles among the people of the eastern region. Thanks for the illorin write up..

coolitempa:


Very accurate depiction of the truth.. ....this is what they are trying o do with the Ikas...Aniomas....Ikwerres....Etches....lagos....etc.....rather than develop their land....they will be trying to grab that of the others.....thankfully everyone is waking up that their support for Jonathan was always a ploy to grab the land of the minorities around them...it will not work unless with the four land locked states of the SE....

shame it's unfortunate they are all igbo speaking people and it's too late to teach them yoloba,,,chaii yorubas like ahh wish we can turn the hand of clock and blend them with yoloba language...lol.

finniblinks:
if not for the Amadioha deity,etche's would have denied their Igboness

really? How ?

FKO81:

Ewu Osun your worst nightmare is here, please HE GOAT don't disturb us

Obinna, I just dey laugh the one chance wey you enter. Lmao

xtrorse:


Descendant of a fallen demon, you would still blame Igbos for your tribal marked, tiger-like, horrid looking faces...

Same trash from an accursed akpu eating bastard from the cursed erosion ravaged land. 5th class citizen like you make me laugh, your father dare not make noise else everyone will piss on him. You are all cursed to be foolish, reason no one take you all serious. Moronic yeebhoe fool.

FKO81:

Aworis, Ijebus are not Yoruba

Thank you joor
Laudate thinks he can scam everybody at the same time

coolitempa:


Very accurate depiction of the truth.. ....this is what they are trying o do with the Ikas...Aniomas....Ikwerres....Etches....lagos....etc.....rather than develop their land....they will be trying to grab that of the others.....thankfully everyone is waking up that their support for Jonathan was always a ploy to grab the land of the minorities around them...it will not work unless with the four land locked states of the SE....

This is one of the she-male vermins who disguise as angels of light, posing as SS/SS-Igbo wannabes, to cause havoc amongst people.

Though it's ingrained in your DNA, it's shameful and disgusting to display and advertise the treacherous nature of your Yoruba tribe online

BuddahMonk:


I wonder why he is trying to claim Ikwerres, ikwerres don't even behave like Igbos, they lack everything Igbos are known for.

There is no Ikwerre sportsman, there is no Ikwerre businesman or woman, I wonder why people are trying to claim nonentities

don't be so emotional. Don't say a thing like that.
That guy is not an ikwerre but a yoruba bush idiat.
the ikwerres re unique and also gifted.in nollywood we have,tonto dikeh,monalisa chinda,etc
in entertainment industry, we have julius agwu and duncan mighty.

In ph, they do their own business they know best.

Pls don't be too emotional about those who want to divides the IGBOs. They re nothing but an enemies frm the west.

Meka..

cheruv:

Thank you joor
Laudate thinks he can scam everybody at the same time

So Awori and Ijebus are not Yorubas but japanese. Una just dey display stupidity life on nairaland. Lmaoooo. Wetin person no go hear from the wanderers again o

coolitempa:


Very accurate depiction of the truth.. ....this is what they are trying o do with the Ikas...Aniomas....Ikwerres....Etches....lagos....etc.....rather than develop their land....they will be trying to grab that of the others.....thankfully everyone is waking up that their support for Jonathan was always a ploy to grab the land of the minorities around them...it will not work unless with the four land locked states of the SE....

pls read your comment again and be sincere with yourselves.is the comment reasonable,sensible Or truthful?
#nooffense.

finniblinks:
see what propaganda education has done to Nigerians.
Ikwerre means ''if you believe'' in Igbo language.
Nkwerre means ''i believe'' in Igbo language (Nkwerre is in Imo state)
Umuola means children of ola in igbo lang.
Umuokoro means children of okoro
What does rumuokoro mean in Ikwerre lang.?
One cannot escape from his shadow

Nkwerre is also in Anambra state

mcvaeey:
Ikweres are Edos and not igbos kill yourself.

Lol.
why are you so angry? Ikwerres are Igbos not edos hang yourself!!