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The Delusions Of Forgiveness And The Christian Morality. by plaetton: 5:06pm On Aug 27, 2015 |
Forgiveness of sins, AKA The Get-Out-Of-Jail Card that Christians carry in their wallets, ready to be whipped out at the slightest sting of moral contradictions in their everyday lives. The forgiveness of sins card is such a wonderful and magical wuru wuru gift that Christians are gifted with once they accept the blood of Jesus as their saviour. Forgiveness of sins is very very strong selling point for the Christian cult, because it appeals broadly to the human selfish genes. Are you a thief, an armed robber, a murderer, a LovePeddler, an economic sabatuer ? No problems, jesus forgives you and has a place for you in heaven. Just say the word, and VOILA !! , you are forgiven, no questions asked. A well known Christian Youtuber, Samuel Rader, has just been busted and outed as subscriber to Ashley Madison website, a well known adultery website where people pay to connect with other adulterers. With such a bombshell, one would naturally expect a shamed and shameful Samuel Rader to at least hide in shame for the rest of his. But Alas, no. ![]() Not this guy. For He is a Christian, who just happens to have in his pocket, a platinum plated, handcrafted in heaven, Get-out-of-SHAME Forgiveness card. And not surprisingly, he has hastily whipped out his card, and invoked the forgiveness Clause that is part of Christian contract with Geezus and the heavenly skydaddy. With the forgiveness clause being an important part of the " Jesus is My Saviour " contract , we are forced to ponder, and wonder, where exactly Do Christians get their codes for moral behaviour from ? ![]() https://ca.news.yahoo.com/blogs/daily-buzz/christian-youtube-user-speaks-out-on-ashley-182057438.html Popular Christian YouTuber Sam Rader admitted to having a subscription to infidelity service website Ashley Madison, right after it was reported that he was linked to it. It just so happens that he has already confessed his sin and has been forgiven. [/b]Shortly after The Daily Mail revealed that Rader paid for an account on the affair site, he and his wife Nia went on their vlog to clear everything up for their followers. In their recent video entitled ‘Forgiven,’ Rader confirms that he did create the Ashley Madison account over two years ago, [b]but apparently since then he’s been “completely cleansed of this sin.” He brought it to his wife’s attention, who forgave him, and he also sought forgiveness from God, who he said forgave him as well. According to The Daily Mail, someone using a credit card belonging to “Samuel Rader” made several payments on Ashley Madison in September 2013, including two payments of $189. It reportedly stopped in November that same year. Rader emphasizes in the video that he never met anyone face-to-face through the website. “The account was opened out of pure fleshly desires and just sinful curiosity,” he said, while his wife sat behind him and nodded during his confession. 11 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: The Delusions Of Forgiveness And The Christian Morality. by plaetton: 5:10pm On Aug 27, 2015 |
^^^ Lol @ purely fleshly desires. ![]() LOLOL @ Sinful Curiosity. ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Re: The Delusions Of Forgiveness And The Christian Morality. by Rilwayne001: 5:20pm On Aug 27, 2015 |
Jesus died for his sins on the cross of calvary. 3 Likes |
Re: The Delusions Of Forgiveness And The Christian Morality. by Ishilove: 5:21pm On Aug 27, 2015 |
You this plaetton of a man, why are you so obsessed with Christianity?? You need deliverance ![]() 5 Likes |
Re: The Delusions Of Forgiveness And The Christian Morality. by johnydon22(m): 5:38pm On Aug 27, 2015 |
[b]The idea of theism has always been one created to make a soft landing psychological pillow for people, people tend to need an escape route to channel their problems and responsibilities psychologically and by so doing lack independent self determination. First they need an escape route for their own problems instead of owning up someone conjures up flimsy excuses like "It was the devil's handiwork" "It's God's plan" "God is testing you" and in so doing they erode compassion and human sympathy in times of human tragedy. "It was the devils handiwork" an escape route to heap their own responsibilities and failures on an escape goat so they might escape owning up to their problems, if the misfortunes on the world is the work of a devil, it clearly shows the devil is more active than the good guy who suppose to be doing the good ones. "It's God's plan" if everything is God's plan and God has prepared everything according to his will, why then do you pray and beg for favours because it's more like telling God "Your plans is good and all but fvck it i want it done my own way. "God is testing you" This stone cold excuse is one that i always chastise, eroding compassion in order to make flimsy excuses and create a psychological escape route. THE FORGIVENESS ESCAPE ROUTE. This is the worst form of psychological dependency on abstract concepts when people cannot own up to their actions and agree responsibility for them. That is when you hear idiotic statements like "We are saved by grace" in order words blatantly riding themselves from the guilt of their wrong doings to others. What i find to be moral is the way you treat others and when i wrong someone i regard their feelings and i if i want to will only ask forgiveness from them because they are the one i hurt. But a theist logic on forgiveness is; You hurt someone and instead of apologizing to that person you enter your room, mumble some words to the floor and come out saying you are forgiven by God but the person you offend is still hurting and has no idea of your act of repentance from your action. . Why do someone need forgiveness from a deity when you hurt another human? A woman once told me that it is because you also hurt God by hurting another human.. My reply was "Since by hurting another human you hurt God, isn't it clear that by apologizing to the person you hurt and gaining his/her forgiveness you should as well gain forgiveness from any God you delusionally think you offended". I have never seen people who butter self righteousness together with outright hypocrisy more.... You hurt someone and claim to be saved by grace therefore ridding yourself of the responsibility your action entails and more wickedly neglecting the feelings of the one you offended. I can never trust someone who cannot own up to his mistakes, his actions and take absolute responsibility for them but seeks a psychological escape from them We do not need forgiveness from any God or any Deity, (Our actions are towards one another) We only need forgiveness from each other [/b] 29 Likes 13 Shares |
Re: The Delusions Of Forgiveness And The Christian Morality. by plaetton: 5:46pm On Aug 27, 2015 |
johnydon22: You have said it all. Funny how atheists are always lecturing goddists on simple morality. Funny also, that it is always the alleged sins of others, the morality of others, for example, the private, sexual acts of others, that agitate Christians , .and not their own moral shortcomings. 13 Likes 3 Shares |
Re: The Delusions Of Forgiveness And The Christian Morality. by plaetton: 5:48pm On Aug 27, 2015 |
Ishilove: Deliverance, yes, 1 Like |
Re: The Delusions Of Forgiveness And The Christian Morality. by Ishilove: 5:52pm On Aug 27, 2015 |
johnydon22:Johnny don come. Akukwo girama ![]() 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: The Delusions Of Forgiveness And The Christian Morality. by johnydon22(m): 5:57pm On Aug 27, 2015 |
Ishilove:Hahahahahahahaha 1 Like |
Re: The Delusions Of Forgiveness And The Christian Morality. by NoirBlvck(f): 7:34pm On Aug 27, 2015 |
plaetton: Well if this isn't the truth.......... 2 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: The Delusions Of Forgiveness And The Christian Morality. by dalaman: 8:02pm On Aug 27, 2015 |
johnydon22: I have read from a lot of atheist here and in other places but you truly stand out. You reason and make very unconventional but very cogent points that always makes theism look shallow and ridiculous. I love your mind and your eloquence. 10 Likes 1 Share |
Re: The Delusions Of Forgiveness And The Christian Morality. by Ishilove: 8:38pm On Aug 27, 2015 |
johnydon22:Ees true na. Na so you just dey blow grammar dey go. It was quite mesmerising. I don't know what the heck you wrote in that epistle, but it sure does look impressive!!! ![]() ![]() |
Re: The Delusions Of Forgiveness And The Christian Morality. by simplex2: 8:40pm On Aug 27, 2015 |
According to them, people like Bill Gates: who is single handedly wiping out diseases in Africa will go to hell while an armed robber tied on the stakes about to be shot dead manages to mumble few words whispered to him by an attending pastor is automatically forgiven and goes to heaven. Abeg, if Gates will be in hell, count me in! 15 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: The Delusions Of Forgiveness And The Christian Morality. by Ishilove: 8:40pm On Aug 27, 2015 |
dalaman:Tah, stop deceiving the niqqa! ![]() Johnny, you sef you are feeling funky because they are praising you, shey? I know sey na you 'like' the post, come 'share' am join. For your mind. ![]() ![]() 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: The Delusions Of Forgiveness And The Christian Morality. by Ishilove: 8:42pm On Aug 27, 2015 |
simplex2:Be very very careful what you wish for... |
Re: The Delusions Of Forgiveness And The Christian Morality. by johnydon22(m): 8:46pm On Aug 27, 2015 |
Ishilove:I don't write to impress, you can look it up and see what it was all about 2 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: The Delusions Of Forgiveness And The Christian Morality. by Ishilove: 8:47pm On Aug 27, 2015 |
johnydon22:Na who get that kain time? ![]() You and ya 50cents cap ![]() 1 Like |
Re: The Delusions Of Forgiveness And The Christian Morality. by johnydon22(m): 8:52pm On Aug 27, 2015 |
Ishilove:It doesn't matter what he wishes for, the obvious sick concepts such as what he wrote is crystal clear. . It is as disturbing as it is plain black and white evil. Nobody needs know you or your religion inside out, but as long as you are ok with the idea of a God that will roast people who do not believe as you do in fire or even harbour in your mind the thought of another human burning in a literal fire forever. .Tells everything one need to know about you, your religion and the God it professes 6 Likes 3 Shares |
Re: The Delusions Of Forgiveness And The Christian Morality. by Ishilove: 8:54pm On Aug 27, 2015 |
johnydon22:Toh. At least you were warned, dear Johnnydon. At least you were warned. |
Re: The Delusions Of Forgiveness And The Christian Morality. by Rilwayne001: 8:54pm On Aug 27, 2015 |
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Re: The Delusions Of Forgiveness And The Christian Morality. by Ishilove: 8:55pm On Aug 27, 2015 |
Rilwayne001:Nah. Look at the circumference and axis of the fila. It is definitely 50cents ![]() ![]() Gee geee gee geee geee G-UNIT!!! ![]() ![]() |
Re: The Delusions Of Forgiveness And The Christian Morality. by Rilwayne001: 8:59pm On Aug 27, 2015 |
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Re: The Delusions Of Forgiveness And The Christian Morality. by malvisguy212: 9:00pm On Aug 27, 2015 |
plaetton:if you find it hard to forgive your enemy, why not look for a gun and kill him, no God will hold you accountable for your sin . The morality of Jesus was so far ahead of its time that 2,000 years after Jesus brought it to this planet, modern society is still no closer to attaining it. 'Go the extra mile . . . bless those who curse you. . . Turned the other cheek . . . It is more blessed to give than to receive . . .' Present day morality, with its crude focus upon observable behavior rather than HEART attitude, is hopelessly primitive and out of touch with reality. 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: The Delusions Of Forgiveness And The Christian Morality. by Ishilove: 9:02pm On Aug 27, 2015 |
Rilwayne001:Lmao! ![]() ![]() No, give the guy some credit. I should say 30cents. There is only one 50cents, any other is a counterfeit. ![]() ![]() 3 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: The Delusions Of Forgiveness And The Christian Morality. by johnydon22(m): 9:05pm On Aug 27, 2015 |
Ishilove:[b]Warned? Oh one can only imagine what you people do to your own God concepts; You ridicule it, insult and belittle it and yet somehow still think in your minds you are are in a good path. What sort of a universal God will have a literal burning place to punish Belief ![]() Perfection needs nothing from anybody, so if you claim your God concept is perfect then it needs nothing from anybody; Not worship, reverence and acknowledgement and if this be so it clearly means your piety is useless. But here we have it, you are showing us a God who needs worship, who needs sacrifice, acknowledgement on daily basis. . A God with chronic narcissism that needs worship so bad that it threatens people with fire should they fail to give it...Doesn't this show a childish, egoistic and abusive concept? If you are God would you punish people based on what they believe and would your punishment be an eternal flame . . . .If "NO" then you obviously have a saner and sounder moral basis than the God you profess[/b] 10 Likes 4 Shares |
Re: The Delusions Of Forgiveness And The Christian Morality. by Ishilove: 9:07pm On Aug 27, 2015 |
johnydon22:Mr Ogbeni, calm down o jare!! Are we fighting?? ![]() You sef your blood is too hot ![]() 1 Like 2 Shares |
Re: The Delusions Of Forgiveness And The Christian Morality. by johnydon22(m): 9:13pm On Aug 27, 2015 |
malvisguy212:I have always told you that you possess a very sick mind. .So without the idea of a God who will hold you accountable or a book telling you what to do you will be going round the world wreaking havoc where ever you go...Your state of mind is really scary because you have only shown to possess no independent moral basis. . People should be good to others not because they fear a God that is willing to burn them or going to reward them but rather because they want to be good that is the basis of independent morality. . To be good for goodness sake . . Buddha taught and lived by most of these 600years before Jesus. . . Those philosophies has always been there.. 13 Likes 6 Shares |
Re: The Delusions Of Forgiveness And The Christian Morality. by Ishilove: 9:18pm On Aug 27, 2015 |
On a more serious note, clowning aside ![]() Johnydon22, what you are doing is trying to box God into the rational confines of the four walls of human reasoning. An exercise in futility, I must add. You say the things you say because you do not know what you are talking about. You think you do, but you don't. What you need is a 'Paul encounter' to open your eyes. Paul had to be blinded before he could see, and I hope God shows you mercy by 'blinding' you so that you too can see the light. But the natural (carnal) man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned -1st Cor 2:14. KJV. 2 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: The Delusions Of Forgiveness And The Christian Morality. by johnydon22(m): 9:18pm On Aug 27, 2015 |
Ishilove:My posts are crystal clear for all to see i am not in any way roused. . But sometimes you all should stop and think before you hastily move to depict the God you profess with so much disturbing characters because harbouring such disturbing traits in your mind and being ok with it paints a very wrong impression of the person who does. But alas you are still a victim of this psychological shackle that you preach!!! 8 Likes 3 Shares |
Re: The Delusions Of Forgiveness And The Christian Morality. by Ishilove: 9:20pm On Aug 27, 2015 |
johnydon22:I know. I'm just yanking your heavy chains. |
Re: The Delusions Of Forgiveness And The Christian Morality. by malvisguy212: 9:22pm On Aug 27, 2015 |
johnydon22:even before adam and Eve disobeyed God , they know what is right and wrong. With or without the bible , man know what is right and wrong, the purpose of the bible is to have a personal relationship with God. If Buddha taught the same thing , then follow him , its your choice, as for me , I belong to Jesus forever more. 1 Like |
Re: The Delusions Of Forgiveness And The Christian Morality. by johnydon22(m): 9:24pm On Aug 27, 2015 |
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