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Re: 5 Things I Notice Every Time I Argue With Theist(s) by SonOfEl(m): 12:55pm On Aug 30, 2015
MzNelly:
2 Things I've noticed with Atheists:

1. They claim God doesn't exist, but still hate him and are obsessed with him.
Obsessed with a Being that does not exist.

2. They want God to prove Himself to them. "If you exist, do this or that" Like God is a mere man that you can order about.

my dear, don't mind them.....they keep fooling themselves at the end. they try to justify their own atheistic 'faith' by the suffering and disasters humans suffer in the presence of a loving God. God never said we won't pass through difficulties. ...he said he would comfort us amidst all these and then one day, bring an end to all suffering...don't mind this atheist superstar wannabes....they don't last.
Re: 5 Things I Notice Every Time I Argue With Theist(s) by Nobody: 1:01pm On Aug 30, 2015
SonOfEl:


if only you understand how God speaks....faith will continue to exceed boundaries where human reason LIMITS....for me, reason is and will always be a subset of faith.

faith in a higher power makes you 'walk upon seas'....you tend to survive the impossible by faith, because it assures you to keep moving and keep believing. I am a testimony of that living faith.

all these categories made by the op is a futile effort in putting believers in 'boxes' of his logic. you ATHEISTS are already in our box too, the box category called FOOLISHNESS.
First off,If you was wise,your definition of faith alone would make you debunk your belief. Faith is as blind as justice when you face time....Faith was been used by Medieval era people but upon the enlightenment era,Faith ceased to exist and was replaced by THEORY,so if you still stuck with faith,it is as a product of your society where find yourself which is the 3rd world primitive society which cannot evolve. Ever wondered why Africans are the most religion people and the most cultured but people with the most problems,welcome to Africa.
Re: 5 Things I Notice Every Time I Argue With Theist(s) by phyllosilicate(m): 1:05pm On Aug 30, 2015
aaronson:
You don't even have a stance on this,you going back and forth,making your argument illogical. Right,In Nigeria,what is the most popular religion with the largest worshipers?
It seems you have low comprehension and little knowledge. Hence, this would be the last time I would reply you.
Christanity isn't the most popular religion in Nigeria. Many say their are as many muslims as christians.
aaronson:
You don't even have a stance on this,you going back and forth,making your argument illogical. Right,In Nigeria,what is the most popular religion with the largest worshipers?
What is illogical about my argument? This is the last I would reply you because you seems to have low comprehension and little knowledge.

Christianty is not the most popular religion in Nigeria. Many people put the number of muslims equal to that of christians. The CIa factbook put it has 50% muslims, 40% christians and 10% african traditional religion.
https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/ni.html
Re: 5 Things I Notice Every Time I Argue With Theist(s) by Nobody: 1:07pm On Aug 30, 2015
aaronson:
if your claim about god giving human brain to find or discover drugs,why hasn't god given the best doctor the brain to find or discovered the cure for AIDS? Why is he wasting time to grow the herbs so physicians could find it?

No god gives you wisdom but your learned wisdom which you got through education and learned skills.

Okay,let me flip it over,god created human with the ability to use logic,Leaves no logical proof he exit & still will burn me in hell for not believing in his existence,Does this make sense to you?
Guy you're funny. So it's God's fault if man has not discovered the cure for some sicknesses right ? For your information God still heals super naturally without drugs if you don't know ask and He does it free of charge. But you must believe in Him because there is no way what you don't believe in will work for you. It is written in the bible By his stripes we are healed, healing is the CHILDREN's bread. If you are interested just call on Jesus. It's free. When it comes to healing God does not and is not limited by the discovery or availability of human medicine. Let me ask you do you think you can know everything God created ? How many planets were you told existed 10 years ago by your research and textbook and how many planets are there now ? O boy , fear God and repent ! Thanks.
Re: 5 Things I Notice Every Time I Argue With Theist(s) by Nobody: 1:10pm On Aug 30, 2015
phyllosilicate:

It seems you have low comprehension and little knowledge. Hence, this would be the last time I would reply you.
Christanity isn't the most popular religion in Nigeria. Many say their are as many muslims as christians.
What is illogical about my argument? This is the last I would reply you because you seems to have low comprehension and little knowledge.

Christianty is not the most popular religion in Nigeria. Many people put the number of muslims equal to that of christians. The CIa factbook put it has 50% muslims, 40% christians and 10% african traditional religion.
https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/ni.html

Marry your statistics with my previous answer and let the world know who has the lowest memory?
Re: 5 Things I Notice Every Time I Argue With Theist(s) by Nobody: 1:14pm On Aug 30, 2015
aaronson:
How do you expect me,a proud atheist tell you stuff an authorized god should look like when the burden of proof is on you who practice christianity religiously,this is so illogical and petty.
You seem not to understand and even how the burden of proof operates. First, I am not asking you to proof anything so the burden of proofing shouldn't even come up here.

Let me explain to you. You say that looking at the bible it doesn't look like the product of an authorized god. You know, it is just the same thing as saying that a book doesn't look like that written by a certain writer. Before you say something similar you must know the quality of the work the author is known for. The same I am asking you here.

Since you are holding that point would it be wrong to ask you what the work of an authorized god should look like? Or you can take back your word and admit it is a little so we can proceed. It is not always about winning an argument but learning from it.

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Re: 5 Things I Notice Every Time I Argue With Theist(s) by Nobody: 1:16pm On Aug 30, 2015
fantasticshaw:
Guy you're funny. So it's God's fault if man has not discovered the cure for some sicknesses right ? For your information God still heals super naturally without drugs if you don't know ask and He does it free of charge. But you must believe in Him because there is no way what you don't believe in will work for you. It is written in the bible By his stripes we are healed, healing is the CHILDREN's bread. If you are interested just call on Jesus. It's free. When it comes to healing God does not and is not limited by the discovery or availability of human medicine. Let me ask you do you think you can know everything God created ? How many planets were you told existed 10 years ago by your research and textbook and how many planets are there now ? O boy , fear God and repent ! Thanks.
Okay if it's not god fault,Aids medicine hasn't been discovered that means your previous claim is invalid and nonsensical as regard god provided all medicine to all ailment in the world,that's one,then two, If god heals super naturally why do you still attend hospital eventhough you believe?
Re: 5 Things I Notice Every Time I Argue With Theist(s) by SonOfEl(m): 1:18pm On Aug 30, 2015
aaronson:
First off,If you was wise,your definition of faith alone would make you debunk your belief. Faith is as blind as justice when you face time....Faith was been used by Medieval era people but upon the enlightenment era,Faith ceased to exist and was replaced by THEORY,so if you still stuck with faith,it is as a product of your society where find yourself which is the 3rd world primitive society which cannot evolve. Ever wondered why Africans are the most religion people and the most cultured but people with the most problems,welcome to Africa.

for the fact that Africans are religious does not necessarily make them right before God, they could be hypocritical. also, being intelligent and civilized does not necessarily make one good. Africa as a people and as a continent were raped by the supremacists.

also, scientists and inventors like Isaac newton, Galileo Galilei, wright brothers, Marie and perre curie were Christians... the foundation upon which the world today thrives on liberty was due the the influence of christian religious values and tenets. so you are free to declare your personal opinions. just keep it to yourself.
Re: 5 Things I Notice Every Time I Argue With Theist(s) by CaptainJune: 1:31pm On Aug 30, 2015
MzNelly:
2 Things I've noticed with Atheists:

1. They claim God doesn't exist, but still hate him and are obsessed with him.
Obsessed with a Being that does not exist.

2. They want God to prove Himself to them. "If you exist, do this or that" Like God is a mere man that you can order about.

Lol. It is very funny but I can feel the passion of hatred for the 'non-existent' God in his words. I thought his subject-matter should be approached objectively as pertains to a lack of conviction in someone's existence. Why is he then making it a personal issue by calling a non-existent being names? Is that logical? Yes, obsession makes it logical.

Secondly, you will always hear atheists demand evidence of the existence of God. It doesn't mean they want to believe God when they see the evidence of His existence. They only want to satisfy their science-driven curiosity; they want to put God in a laboratory and conduct experiments on Him so that in the end, they will say science created God since He can be verified by scientific means. Lol. Can't laugh. No wonder the Word says claiming they are wise they became fools. The Word of God also said the wisdom of the world is foolishness with God, and that He catches the wise in their craftiness. The Op fits both categories.

It is just like when Jesus was hanged on the cross and the scribes and religious leaders of the time challenged Him to come down from the cross if He was truly the Son of God. They only said this as a matter of satisfying their curiosity, not to believe if it actually happened. If they did not believe all the signs He performed and the testimonies of people he healed and delivered from demonic oppression, they wouldn't believe even if He came down from the cross.
It is the same way with atheists. If they don't believe the signs of God's existence through the manifestations of healing and miracles by the hands of His servants, the testimonies of millions of people all over the world as regards His existence including those who died and came back to life through God's grace, through the operation of the gifts of the Holy Spirit especially the gifts of prophecy and word of knowledge, then they will never believe even if they were given hard evidence of God's existence. The Op, like the rest of those who share in his unbelief, is on his own.

In essence, I just expatiated on your post to show I fully agree with your comment. Makes sense.
Re: 5 Things I Notice Every Time I Argue With Theist(s) by Nobody: 1:31pm On Aug 30, 2015
SonOfEl:


for the fact that Africans are religious does not necessarily make them right before God, they could be hypocritical. also, being intelligent and civilized does not necessarily make one good. Africa as a people and as a continent were raped by the supremacists.

also, scientists and inventors like Isaac newton, Galileo Galilei, wright brothers, Marie and perre curie were Christians... the foundation upon which the world today thrives on liberty was due the the influence of christian religious values and tenets. so you are free to declare your personal opinions. just keep it to yourself.
Thank you sir because,you have just given me more points to tackle you the more. 1- The fact that Africa are predominantly religious doesn't make them right in the sight of god mean two things, either you believing something wrong or You living in a lie.
2- If being civilized doesn't make one good,then why do we have civil law?
3-Yes,True,Africans were exploited and marginalized by their colonial masters but a tool they used was Indirect rule and religion,As a matter of fact,they gave you religion and told you not to fight back when they are fight you,instead you should talk to god and that's what you doing till today 30-8-2015,The first man who brought Christianity to Nigeria was Henry Townsend,he was apart of the colonialist movement to give you religion and brainwash you and guess what,he succeeded becasue you a product of what Henry Townsend created in Nigeria,That's why they often tell you African are still mentallly slaves to their colonial masters,so do you now understand the use of religion and its is been used to trick weak minds like the Africans?

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Re: 5 Things I Notice Every Time I Argue With Theist(s) by Nobody: 1:41pm On Aug 30, 2015
Another one them..... Smh

.....With all the knowledge he claims to have, I don't see how he's changed the world.....

Wait a minute! What does becoming an atheist add to ones life? Oh! I know, you get to know how to reason, use logic and philosophy and that way you life is bettered.

No thanks, I'm just fine with faith in God; makes things a lot easier to comprehend. Didn't see where a higher IQ ever gave me peace
Re: 5 Things I Notice Every Time I Argue With Theist(s) by Nobody: 1:43pm On Aug 30, 2015
MzNelly:
2 Things I've noticed with Atheists:

1. They claim God doesn't exist, but still hate him and are obsessed with him.
Obsessed with a Being that does not exist.

2. They want God to prove Himself to them. "If you exist, do this or that" Like God is a mere man that you can order about.
To counter your opinion
1-Atheists hate on the viral ignorance not a non existent entity.

2- Proof is the evidence of Truth,you could commit murder but in the process of trial and legislation,if no proof or paraphernalia is tied to your case,it remains claims and such a case is null and void meaning you free and never to be tried in that case. So you see the essense of proof.
Re: 5 Things I Notice Every Time I Argue With Theist(s) by Nobody: 1:52pm On Aug 30, 2015
Reyginus:
You seem not to understand and even how the burden of proof operates. First, I am not asking you to proof anything so the burden of proofing shouldn't even come up here.

Let me explain to you. You say that looking at the bible it doesn't look like the product of an authorized god. You know, it is just the same thing as saying that a book doesn't look like that written by a certain writer. Before you say something similar you must know the quality of the work the author is known for. The same I am asking you here.

Since you are holding that point would it be wrong to ask you what the work of an authorized god should look like? Or you can take back your word and admit it is a little so we can proceed. It is not always about winning an argument but learning from it.
This sounds petty,Sounds more petty when you looking for godly proof from an atheist,c'mon son.
Re: 5 Things I Notice Every Time I Argue With Theist(s) by SonOfEl(m): 1:52pm On Aug 30, 2015
aaronson:
Thank you sir because,you have just given me more points to tackle you the more. 1- The fact that Africa are predominantly religious doesn't make them right in the sight of god mean two things, either you believing something wrong or You living in a lie.
2- If being civilized doesn't make one good,then why do we have civil law?
3-Yes,True,Africans were exploited and marginalized by their colonial masters but a tool they used was Indirect rule and religion,As a matter of fact,they gave you religion and told you not to fight back when they are fight you,instead you should talk to god and that's what you doing till today 30-8-2015,The first man who brought Christianity to Nigeria was Henry Townsend,he was apart of the colonialist movement to give you religion and brainwash you and guess what,he succeeded becasue you a product of what Henry Townsend created in Nigeria,That's why they often tell you African are still mentallly slaves to their colonial masters,so do you now understand the use of religion and its is been used to trick weak minds like the Africans?

dude, you keep missing the point. you keep arriving to your own 'logical' conclusions.

1. some religious folks are not religious in its true spiritual sense, they only get religious for their own selfish reasons. not all religious people are like this though...so stop generalizing.

2. being civil does not NECESSARILY make one good. some can be civil but have an evil heart, some can be uncivilized yet good intentioned.

3. just because you pioneered something doesn't make you the beginning and end of it..... God is not answerable or exclusive to any man or race.

you politicize everything including religion, well thank God spirituality cannot be politicized. religion is just its screensaver.
Re: 5 Things I Notice Every Time I Argue With Theist(s) by Nobody: 1:58pm On Aug 30, 2015
Thoniameek:
Another one them..... Smh

.....With all the knowledge he claims to have, I don't see how he's changed the world.....

Wait a minute! What does becoming an atheist add to ones life? Oh! I know, you get to know how to reason, use logic and philosophy and that way you life is bettered.

No thanks, I'm just fine with faith in God; makes things a lot easier to comprehend. Didn't see where a higher IQ ever gave me peace
That's why you feminine,Women are meant to know and imbibe conformity,leave the brain articulation for the masculine.
Re: 5 Things I Notice Every Time I Argue With Theist(s) by Nobody: 2:01pm On Aug 30, 2015
SonOfEl:


dude, you keep missing the point. you keep arriving to your own 'logical' conclusions.

1. some religious folks are not religious in its true spiritual sense, they only get religious for their own selfish reasons. not all religious people are like this though...so stop generalizing.

2. being civil does not NECESSARILY make one good. some can be civil but have an evil heart, some can be uncivilized yet good intentioned.

3. just because you pioneered something doesn't make you the beginning and end of it..... God is not answerable or exclusive to any man or race.

you politicize everything including religion, well thank God spirituality cannot be politicized. religion is just its screensaver.
Perfectly makes sense and then tomorrow,you would wanna know why black people are only once who can't evolve.
Re: 5 Things I Notice Every Time I Argue With Theist(s) by Nobody: 2:05pm On Aug 30, 2015
aaronson:
That's why you feminine,Women are meant to know and imbibe conformity,leave the brain articulation for the masculine.

And if it was a religious dude that had written what you wrote up there, you would say it's his religion that makes him think that way.

Is it secularism that makes you think that way now or maybe your "atheist belief?"
Re: 5 Things I Notice Every Time I Argue With Theist(s) by Nobody: 2:13pm On Aug 30, 2015
Thoniameek:


And if it was a religious dude that had written what you wrote up there, you would say it's his religion that makes him think that way.

Is it secularism that makes you think that way now or maybe your "atheist belief?"
Everybody got their own opinion from their own behaviour,prejudice,stereotype,religion belief,FEMINISM,culture etc
Now,I took the feminist part and applied it to my reason as to why you wrote your opinion on this thread and if I was wrong about it,it wouldn't bother you thus far.
Re: 5 Things I Notice Every Time I Argue With Theist(s) by SonOfEl(m): 2:17pm On Aug 30, 2015
aaronson:
Perfectly makes sense and then tomorrow,you would wanna know why black people are only once who can't evolve.

maybe YOU have not evolved. I was created in Gods image. so the strength and intelligence to dominate my world is inbuilt. I don't have to be Einstein to thrive. since you have bought into scientific racism, I can now understand your inferiority complex..... too bad.
Re: 5 Things I Notice Every Time I Argue With Theist(s) by Nobody: 2:22pm On Aug 30, 2015
SonOfEl:


maybe YOU have not evolved. I was created in Gods image. so the strength and intelligence to dominate my world is inbuilt. I don't have to be Einstein to thrive. since you have bought into scientific racism, I can now understand your inferiority complex..... too bad.
This is the bad part,After christians such as you got no reason to learn themselves out of mental slavery then what you wrote to me serves as their defense mechanism but hey,this is where you found yourself African,it can only get better when you start to undo the defense mechanism thing and come to term with reality.
Re: 5 Things I Notice Every Time I Argue With Theist(s) by SonOfEl(m): 2:35pm On Aug 30, 2015
aaronson:
This is the bad part,After christians such as you got no reason to learn themselves out of mental slavery then what you wrote to me serves as their defense mechanism but hey,this is where you found yourself African,it can only get better when you start to undo the defense mechanism thing and come to term with reality.

say that to the man in the mirror. I am proudly African, proudly black, and proudly IGBO, IGBOS don't have IQ problems, our intelligence transcends IQ alone. you are the one pulling your hair and striving for your IQ recognition.

I love God. I have discovered him. and am happy with him. keep your atheism.
Re: 5 Things I Notice Every Time I Argue With Theist(s) by Nobody: 2:37pm On Aug 30, 2015
aaronson:
Everybody got their own opinion from their own behaviour,prejudice,stereotype,religion belief,FEMINISM,culture etc
Now,I took the feminist part and applied it to my reason as to why you wrote your opinion on this thread and if I was wrong about it,it wouldn't bother you thus far.

So much for logic, reason and philosophy.....smh
Re: 5 Things I Notice Every Time I Argue With Theist(s) by plaetton: 2:39pm On Aug 30, 2015
Buho:
as an atheist i want you to give me a scientific explanation on how human came into existence and please dont tell me you believe in the homosappien or homoerectus stuff.

If you failed to understand the basic sciences taught in school, why do you think an atheist owes you an obligation to make you understand them now?
Re: 5 Things I Notice Every Time I Argue With Theist(s) by plaetton: 2:41pm On Aug 30, 2015
SonOfEl:


say that to the man in the mirror. I am proudly African, proudly black, and proudly IGBO, IGBOS don't have IQ problems, our intelligence transcends IQ alone. you are the one pulling your hair and striving for your IQ recognition.

I love God. I have discovered him. and am happy with him. keep your atheism.

And attachment to an imaginary friend is hardly an intelligent attribute, rather, it is a benign form of mental illness.

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Re: 5 Things I Notice Every Time I Argue With Theist(s) by plaetton: 2:45pm On Aug 30, 2015
SonOfEl:


maybe YOU have not evolved. I was created in Gods image. so the strength and intelligence to dominate my world is inbuilt. I don't have to be Einstein to thrive. since you have bought into scientific racism, I can now understand your inferiority complex..... too bad.

Lol.
God's image my bottom.
I bet that if Jesus comes down wearing an Igbo traditional attire and looking exact like you, you would mock him and call him fake, deciever and devil.

You are just another brainwashed shmock.
Just admit it and move on.

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Re: 5 Things I Notice Every Time I Argue With Theist(s) by plaetton: 2:50pm On Aug 30, 2015
SonOfEl:


my dear, don't mind them.....they keep fooling themselves at the end. they try to justify their own atheistic 'faith' by the suffering and disasters humans suffer in the presence of a loving God. God never said we won't pass through difficulties. ...he said he would comfort us amidst all these and then one day, bring an end to all suffering...don't mind this atheist superstar wannabes....they don't last.

Lol.
If all your skydaddy can do is pretend-comfort you after disasters and misfortunes, rather than preventing them, then what is the need to have an imaginary skydaddy?
What are the megatons of prayers for?
Heck, your friends and family can give you real comfort in times of need.
Re: 5 Things I Notice Every Time I Argue With Theist(s) by hahn(m): 2:54pm On Aug 30, 2015
MzNelly:
2 Things I've noticed with Atheists:

1. They claim God doesn't exist, but still hate him and are obsessed with him.
Obsessed with a Being that does not exist.

2. They want God to prove Himself to them. "If you exist, do this or that" Like God is a mere man that you can order about.

@bolded, As a matter of fact, christians are the ones always ordering god about. During your prayers we hear "fire, fire", "god kill all our enemies", "god bless us", "baba e dide! E pa awon aje ninu aye mi", "god show yourself", "god, let me pass my exams" etc. These are all orders because if your god is indeed almighty you won't need to remind him of his responsibilities.

As regards your first point, the only people obsessed about a non existent being are theists. We are only concerned about the way you guys peddle your lies and try as much as possible to enlighten you with the aim of getting you to use more of your brain and not believe in everything you are told.

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Re: 5 Things I Notice Every Time I Argue With Theist(s) by Nobody: 2:56pm On Aug 30, 2015
Thoniameek:


So much for logic, reason and philosophy.....smh
Smiles,that's just the difference between you and me,I could teach you how to hate to win more than your peers love to win.
Re: 5 Things I Notice Every Time I Argue With Theist(s) by Nobody: 2:59pm On Aug 30, 2015
SonOfEl:


say that to the man in the mirror. I am proudly African, proudly black, and proudly IGBO, IGBOS don't have IQ problems, our intelligence transcends IQ alone. you are the one pulling your hair and striving for your IQ recognition.

I love God. I have discovered him. and am happy with him. keep your atheism.
I love dog too
Re: 5 Things I Notice Every Time I Argue With Theist(s) by hahn(m): 3:00pm On Aug 30, 2015
phyllosilicate:
I think the title should be - "5 Things I Notice Every Time I Argue With Christian(s)". You were only mentioning christians.
Two things I noticed about atheist:
1, I noticed when Atheists GENERALIZE. They poke holes in the Christians beliefs in God, then they conclude all religions are false.
2. Majority (100% of atheist I know) were Christians.

Well, muslims and other theists don't go around from door to door threatening people with hell fire for not believing in their god. Muslims are a bit more devoted to their beliefs. A muslim can be convinced to blow himself up for Mohammed but christians can't even seem to get themselves to go to church on Sundays.

Of all religions, christians are undoubtedly the most hypocritical, judgemental and indisciplined.

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Re: 5 Things I Notice Every Time I Argue With Theist(s) by TheDauraMallam: 3:01pm On Aug 30, 2015
SonOfEl:


say that to the man in the mirror. I am proudly African, proudly black, and proudly IGBO, IGBOS don't have IQ problems, our intelligence transcends IQ alone. you are the one pulling your hair and striving for your IQ recognition.

I love God. I have discovered him. and am happy with him. keep your atheism.

A black Christian is like a black person with no memory.

-Chris Rock.
Re: 5 Things I Notice Every Time I Argue With Theist(s) by Nobody: 3:02pm On Aug 30, 2015
aaronson:
Smiles,that's just the difference between you and me,I could teach you how to hate to win more than your peers love to win.

See...... You don't teach anyone how to hate.
By default humans hate; you atheist just like the easy way out, comfort zone.

I could only imagine the boredom in such a lifestyle.

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