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Re: Russia Begins Air Strikes In Syria Against ISIS by lozairio(m): 2:15pm On Oct 01, 2015
NaijaTalkTown:
So where do gangstars and American gun users that kill people get their guns from? The ISIS, Al Nusra, where are they getting American weapons from? Benin Republic?
isis got US weapon frm iraqi armory al nusra get weapons frm saudi arabia nt america
Re: Russia Begins Air Strikes In Syria Against ISIS by Missy89(f): 2:20pm On Oct 01, 2015
I have been enjoying the coordinated Media attack on the strikes all day. For the first time, Mccain is not happy about bombs dropping


That said, I hope Putin doesn't over reach

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Re: Russia Begins Air Strikes In Syria Against ISIS by Axis313(m): 2:22pm On Oct 01, 2015
The more u look,the less u see,there is more to isis than meet d eyes.
Upon all d u.s so called superior military technology,all these years they cannot locate and annihilate that ragtag isis bandits.
When russia and the west are fighting their proxy wars,it is only the civilians and economies of those countries being use as battlefield that will suffer,and those two elephants won't suffer any damage.
Re: Russia Begins Air Strikes In Syria Against ISIS by NairaMinted: 2:29pm On Oct 01, 2015
Missy89:
I have been enjoying the coordinated Media attack on the strikes all day. For the first time, Mccain is not happy about bombs dropping


That said, I hope Putin doesn't over reach


Well I don't expect him to be happy seeing that his "moderates" are getting their @$$€$ who0ped!

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Re: Russia Begins Air Strikes In Syria Against ISIS by benbazus: 2:32pm On Oct 01, 2015
If Obama cannot stop the escalation of ISIS, we have to support Putin in his efforts to annihilate ISIS terrorists.
Iraqi security forces lost 2,300 Humvee armored vehicles when Islamic State overran the northern city of Mosul in June 2014, Prime Minister Haider al-Abadi said on Sunday in an interview with Iraqiya state television. .

Coupled with previous losses of American weapons, the conclusion is simple: The United States is effectively supplying Islamic State with tools of war the militant group cannot otherwise hope to acquire from its patrons. In addition to the Humvees, Iraqi forces previously abandoned significant types and numbers of heavy weapons to Islamic State.
For example, losses to Islamic State include at least 40 M1A1 main battle tanks, as well as small arms and ammunition, including 74,000 machine guns, and as many as 52 M198 howitzer mobile gun systems.

It is with this intention Obama did not order boots on the ground at the initial stage when ISIS was merely a ragtag rampaging terrorists without any country of their own.Now they own vast swathes of Syria, Iraq, Libya and Tunisia. The Telegraph correspondent reported that the Obama administration is blocking attempts byits Middle East allies to fly heavy weapons directly to the Kurds fighting Islamic State jihadists in Iraq, Some of America’s closest allies say Obama and other Western leaders, including Cameron, are failing to show strategic leadership over the world’s gravest security crisis for decades. If the Americans and the West are not prepared to do anything serious about defeating[Isis], then we will have to find new ways of dealing with the threat,” a senior Arab government official told the Independent newspaper. “With [Isis]making ground all the time we simply cannot afford to wait for Washington to wake up to the enormity of the threat we face,’ he said.. Only last week,according to media reports, "U.S.-trained rebels in Syria handed over American-supplied vehicles and ammunition to an al-Qaeda linked group, the Pentagon said Friday.

So the Obama administration not merely supplies arms, ammunition and tanks, but also trained Syrian rebels who join the rank of ISIS terrorists. This is the secret behind the success of ISIS. No wonder Obama does not like Putin's decision to wipe out ISIS, since he is mainly responsible for the strength that ISIS enjoys today.

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Re: Russia Begins Air Strikes In Syria Against ISIS by NairaMinted: 2:37pm On Oct 01, 2015
http://theantimedia.org/isis-colonel-trained-by-blackwater-and-us-state-department/



ISIS Colonel was Trained By Blackwater and U.S. State Department for 11 Years

Uncle Sam is desperately trying to rescue it's REGIME CHANGE campaign hence the coordinated western media attack on Russia which is actually now bombing these terrorists!

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Re: Russia Begins Air Strikes In Syria Against ISIS by NairaMinted: 2:42pm On Oct 01, 2015

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Re: Russia Begins Air Strikes In Syria Against ISIS by NairaMinted: 2:44pm On Oct 01, 2015

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Re: Russia Begins Air Strikes In Syria Against ISIS by Nadheer15: 2:49pm On Oct 01, 2015
Truthpallbearer:
A lot of lopsided analysis going on here. See how Muslim lands are being turned into killing fields courtesy of the khawarij (all terrorist groups) and the nusayri Assad. May Allaah rectify the affairs of the Muslim ummah. Ameen
Wallahi brother, this people have brought more harm to the Muslims. May Allah have mercy on the Ummah and guide it to way of the Salafs.

Brother, what's your say on other rebels in Syria(Jabhat Nusra and ISIS are the main Khawaarij no doubt)?
Re: Russia Begins Air Strikes In Syria Against ISIS by Nobody: 3:08pm On Oct 01, 2015
Shymm3x:

Ask Israel what happened when Russia test fired the Topol missile. grin
They thought it was a UFO. grin grin grin
Hhaaaaaa! grin

Re: Russia Begins Air Strikes In Syria Against ISIS by NairaMinted: 3:10pm On Oct 01, 2015
Regarding ISIS, here’s some documentary proof:
5/23/15 http://www.sott.net/article/296809-Secret-Pentagon-report-reveals-West-saw-ISIS-as-strategic-asset A declassified secret US government document obtained by the conservative public interest law firm, Judicial Watch, shows that Western governments deliberately allied with al-Qaeda and other Islamist extremist groups to topple Syrian dictator Bashir al-Assad.

The revelations contradict the official line of Western government on their policies in Syria, and raise disturbing questions about secret Western support for violent extremists abroad, while using the burgeoning threat of terror to justify excessive mass surveillance and crackdowns on civil liberties at home.

Among the batch of documents obtained by Judicial Watch through a federal lawsuit, released earlier this week, is a US Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA) document then classified as “secret,” dated 12th August 2012.

I’m sure you know that all armies require a supply line. Unlikely as it will seem to you, ISIS is supplied thru an airport in Turkey, a NATO member. The weapons are US, paid for by Saudis & Qatar. They are trucked over the Turkish border. When wounded they are cared for in Turkey and Israel. Turkey maintains a “refugee camp” which is actually a rest camp for them. US trains them in Turkey & Jordan.

To catch up on ISIS, etc. I would recommend Tony Cartalucci’s articles.

On almost any topic, including ISIS, I personally rely on two sources: nsnbc international, where you can search within the site to research topics. Also, Globalresearch.ca, which has extraordinary value as a research tool.
Re: Russia Begins Air Strikes In Syria Against ISIS by Nobody: 3:15pm On Oct 01, 2015
Nadheer15:

Wallahi brother, this people have brought more harm to the Muslims. May Allah have mercy on the Ummah and guide it to way of the Salafs.

Brother, what's your say on other rebels in Syria(Jabhat Nusra and ISIS are the main Khawaarij no doubt)?
The scholars spoke in general about those that rebelled against authorities.
Re: Russia Begins Air Strikes In Syria Against ISIS by Nobody: 3:19pm On Oct 01, 2015
CSTR2:
Shymmex is just joking.
It would take russia 100 years to come up with a missile defence system as sophisticated.
Scientist who created the most deadly weapons in d world are from russia
Greatest scientist are from russia hmmm so dnt dare under estimate russia dey myt nt show off like USA bt dey av access to the most dangerous nuclear weapons in d world ok smiley
Thats why when USA av disagreement wit russia they just go dialogue
Dont u ask ursef why
It doesnt take russia an hour to clear USA
We takin bou russia the home of greatest scientist ever liveth

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Re: Russia Begins Air Strikes In Syria Against ISIS by CSTR2: 3:20pm On Oct 01, 2015
halfrica:

Scientisr who created the most deadly weapons in d world are from russia
Greatest scientist are from russia hmmm so dnt dare under estimate russia dey myt nt show of like USA bt dey av access to the most dangerous nuclear weapons in d world ok smiley
hahahaha.
Re: Russia Begins Air Strikes In Syria Against ISIS by linearity: 3:20pm On Oct 01, 2015
benbazus:
If Obama cannot stop the escalation of ISIS, we have to support Putin in his efforts to annihilate ISIS terrorists.
Iraqi security forces lost 2,300 Humvee armored vehicles when Islamic State overran the northern city of Mosul in June 2014, Prime Minister Haider al-Abadi said on Sunday in an interview with Iraqiya state television. .

Coupled with previous losses of American weapons, the conclusion is simple: The United States is effectively supplying Islamic State with tools of war the militant group cannot otherwise hope to acquire from its patrons. In addition to the Humvees, Iraqi forces previously abandoned significant types and numbers of heavy weapons to Islamic State.
For example, losses to Islamic State include at least 40 M1A1 main battle tanks, as well as small arms and ammunition, including 74,000 machine guns, and as many as 52 M198 howitzer mobile gun systems.

It is with this intention Obama did not order boots on the ground at the initial stage when ISIS was merely a ragtag rampaging terrorists without any country of their own.Now they own vast swathes of Syria, Iraq, Libya and Tunisia. The Telegraph correspondent reported that the Obama administration is blocking attempts byits Middle East allies to fly heavy weapons directly to the Kurds fighting Islamic State jihadists in Iraq, Some of America’s closest allies say Obama and other Western leaders, including Cameron, are failing to show strategic leadership over the world’s gravest security crisis for decades. If the Americans and the West are not prepared to do anything serious about defeating[Isis], then we will have to find new ways of dealing with the threat,” a senior Arab government official told the Independent newspaper. “With [Isis]making ground all the time we simply cannot afford to wait for Washington to wake up to the enormity of the threat we face,’ he said.. Only last week,according to media reports, "U.S.-trained rebels in Syria handed over American-supplied vehicles and ammunition to an al-Qaeda linked group, the Pentagon said Friday.

So the Obama administration not merely supplies arms, ammunition and tanks, but also trained Syrian rebels who join the rank of ISIS terrorists. This is the secret behind the success of ISIS. No wonder Obama does not like Putin's decision to wipe out ISIS, since he is mainly responsible for the strength that ISIS enjoys today.

Most of your assertions are incorrect, Obama does not have congressional authorization to go to war in Syria, hence he is operating in very limited capacity citing previous authorizations as cover...but the GOP has challenged him on that and threat to take him to court for him involvement in Syria without congressional approval, Obama then turn around and sent congress a war authorization bill, for more than 2-3 months now, the GOP is sitting on that bill.

Obama is operating within a very fine line, his hands are tied, the GOP want war with Syria but they do not want Obama to get the credit. If it were a Republican President, Assad would have been no more by now...all Obama needs now is for Russian to escalate it to a point where Americans and America are in direct threat, then Obama can act to protect America without congressional approval.

America is a true democracy, where the powers of the President are in check and there are clear, and distinct separation of powers among all three arms of government. One arm is not a rubber stamp for the other and we hear and read about their differences every single day...the same cannot be said about Russian, Russian is run by a dictator and the Parliament in Russian rubber stamps anything and everything Putin wants....but if America is directly threaten, even Republicans will rally around Obama and give him all he needs.
Re: Russia Begins Air Strikes In Syria Against ISIS by Nobody: 3:22pm On Oct 01, 2015
CSTR2:
hahahaha.
Why are u laughing?

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Re: Russia Begins Air Strikes In Syria Against ISIS by NairaMinted: 3:22pm On Oct 01, 2015
Re: Russia Begins Air Strikes In Syria Against ISIS by Shymm3x: 3:22pm On Oct 01, 2015
Missy89:
I have been enjoying the coordinated Media attack on the strikes all day. For the first time, Mccain is not happy about bombs dropping


That said, I hope Putin doesn't over reach

And what will happen if he does?

I guess you have not been watching Putin's body language the past few days...he's a man on a mission he's ready for all eventualities. He knows what the end game is and he's ready for a long war.

Better board the next available flight to Ondo or Ibadan - the Ruskis are coming. They touched the Russian bear. undecided

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Re: Russia Begins Air Strikes In Syria Against ISIS by CSTR2: 3:23pm On Oct 01, 2015
halfrica:

Why are u laughing?
Just felt like it.
Re: Russia Begins Air Strikes In Syria Against ISIS by NairaMinted: 3:23pm On Oct 01, 2015
Re: Russia Begins Air Strikes In Syria Against ISIS by Nobody: 3:24pm On Oct 01, 2015
ollah1:



IT HAS ALREADY STARTED

"RUSSIAN AIR STRIKES KILLS 60 CIVILIANS"
What are u expecting when there is war there wyd b innocent civillians killed i just want isis out of the way
Cos even if civillians are nt killed isis will keep holding dem as hostage wats d diff angry
Re: Russia Begins Air Strikes In Syria Against ISIS by Nobody: 3:26pm On Oct 01, 2015
ollah1:



IT HAS ALREADY STARTED

"RUSSIAN AIR STRIKES KILLS 60 CIVILIANS"
What are u expecting when there is war there wud b innocent civillians killed i just want isis out of the way
Cos even if civillians are nt killed isis will keep holding dem as hostage wats d diff angry
Re: Russia Begins Air Strikes In Syria Against ISIS by ocelot2006(m): 3:26pm On Oct 01, 2015
Its about time. Welldone Russia

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Re: Russia Begins Air Strikes In Syria Against ISIS by CSTR2: 3:30pm On Oct 01, 2015
Blah, blah, blah, and more blah.
The russians are in for it.
By the time, they see the futility of over-investing themselves in something they are not prepared for, just to stand up to america, they would learn some vital lessons.
The afghanistan scenario has not taught them anything yet.
Re: Russia Begins Air Strikes In Syria Against ISIS by NairaMinted: 3:30pm On Oct 01, 2015
ollah1:



IT HAS ALREADY STARTED

"RUSSIAN AIR STRIKES KILLS 60 CIVILIANS"

Oga, spare a thought for the victims of the repressive, Wahhabist and theocratic Saudi Arabia's regime aggression against Yemen as well. Just two days ago, over 130 civilians were killed at a wedding party. Where was your concern then? Since you are now suddenly so concerned about those that got killed by Russian bombs - which most likely is another lie spewed forth by Western Media- remember the Yemenis too

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Re: Russia Begins Air Strikes In Syria Against ISIS by benbazus: 3:32pm On Oct 01, 2015
linearity:


Most of your assertions are incorrect, Obama does not have congressional authorization to go to war in Syria, hence he is operating in very limited capacity citing previous authorizations as cover...but the GOP has challenged him on that and threat to take him to court for him involvement in Syria without congressional approval, Obama then turn around and sent congress a war authorization bill, for more than 2-3 months now, the GOP is sitting on that bill.

Obama is operating within a very fine line, his hands are tied, the GOP want war with Syria but they do not want Obama to get the credit. If it were a Republican President, Assad would have been no more by now...all Obama needs now is for Russian to escalate it to a point where Americans and America are in direct threat, then Obama can act to protect America without congressional approval.

America is a true democracy, where the powers of the President are in check and there are clear, and distinct separation of powers among all three arms of government. One arm is not a rubber stamp for the other and we hear and read about their differences every single day...the same cannot be said about Russian, Russian is run by a dictator and the Parliament in Russian rubber stamps anything and everything Putin wants....but if America is directly threaten, even Republicans will rally around Obama and give him all he needs.



Can you kindly point to any incorrect assertions in my post.

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Re: Russia Begins Air Strikes In Syria Against ISIS by NairaMinted: 3:32pm On Oct 01, 2015
CSTR2:
Blah, blah, blah, and more blah.
The russians are in for it.
By the time, they see the futility of over-investing themselves in something they are not prepared for, just to stand up to america, they would learn some vital lessons.
The afghanistan scenario has not taught them anything yet.

So they should allow wahabist terrorists thrive in Syria and bring "peace, democracy and rule of law" to Syria as they did in Libya right?
Where have u been getting your news ( and hence your world view) from?

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Re: Russia Begins Air Strikes In Syria Against ISIS by abdulkayus(m): 3:35pm On Oct 01, 2015
uselessgoat:



PUTIN IS AFRAID OF BRITAIN IN EUROPE. BRITAIN WILL DESTROY RUSSIA WITHOUT ANY ALLY. BRITIAN DOESNT SHOW OFF ITS MILITARY MIGHT LIKE THE NOISE MAKER CALLED PUTIN

Putib afraid of Britain in Europe
Guy, which kinda weed u dey smoke? ??
Am not suprise seeing ur moniker.

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Re: Russia Begins Air Strikes In Syria Against ISIS by CSTR2: 3:39pm On Oct 01, 2015
NairaMinted:


So they should allow wahabist terrorists thrive in Syria and bring "peace, democracy and rule of law" to Syria as they did in Libya right?
Where have u been getting your news ( and hence your world view) from?
I am not against routing terrorists,heck that is what the US wants to do.
The motive of the russians is in question.
Why syria? Why are they not bombing alshabaab with drones in somalia just like the US has been doing?
What of alqueda? With networks throughout the middle-east. Why has russia not been active in routing alqueda?
What of north korea with their nukes? Why has russia not said anything if they cared about the world.?
Why are they sending weapons to iran that has promised the obliteration of the state of isreal?
These russians are thugs.
Re: Russia Begins Air Strikes In Syria Against ISIS by Missy89(f): 3:40pm On Oct 01, 2015
Shymm3x:


And what will happen if he does?

I guess you have not been watching Putin's body language the past few days...he's a man on a mission he's ready for all eventualities. He knows what the end game is and he's ready for a long war.

Better board the next available flight to Ondo or Ibadan - the Ruskis are coming. They touched the Russian bear. undecided

If airstrikes doesn't produce expected result (unlikely thou) he might be tempted to use his ground troops and any captured Russian will be a huge PR for the west and Isis or whatever nasty group he is trying to fight. Might be the beginning of the end for him.

Russians are coming where? to the US? Even Putin is not that stup1d

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Re: Russia Begins Air Strikes In Syria Against ISIS by NairaMinted: 3:44pm On Oct 01, 2015
MCCAIN: ARM SYRIAN REBELS TO SHOOT DOWN RUSSIAN PLANES
'Just like we did in Afghanistan'



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8hP_7iCqqQ

When is this l00ney bin gotta retire before he leads the world to another world war?!

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Re: Russia Begins Air Strikes In Syria Against ISIS by CSTR2: 3:46pm On Oct 01, 2015
Putin has manipulated the world view to his advantage.
We are here to kill terrorist.
WTF.
Go tell that to the marines. Why have you not been killing terrorists all these while.?
Very soon, fowl yansh go open.

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