NairaMinted:
MCCAIN: ARM SYRIAN REBELS TO SHOOT DOWN RUSSIAN PLANES
'Just like we did in Afghanistan'


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8hP_7iCqqQ

When is this l00ney bin gotta retire before he leads the world to another world war?!

And this is more provocative than russia invading georgia and annexing crimea?
Your anti-western bias stinks.

Missy89:


If airstrikes doesn't produce expected result (unlikely thou) he might be tempted to use his ground troops and any captured Russian will be a huge PR for the west and Isis or whatever nasty group he is trying to fight. Might be the beginning of the end for him.

Russians are coming where? to the US? Even Putin is not that stup1d

When has air strikes alone ever won anything? Obviously, there will be boots on the ground - but they'd most likely be special forces, paratroopers, and naval troops (at Tartus at least). The US and other nations also have their special forces in Iraq and most likely Syria, else they won't be bombing targets in both places.

Anyway, Russian troops (though limited) would fight alongside Iranians (they're sending 20,000 troops), Syrians, Hezbollah, Chinese special forces (about 500 from the source I read), Iraqis, and I expect Serbians to go out there as well. It's a war of necessity and no PR junk can end him.

Lol. Obviously, they aren't coming to the US but never say never in an all out war between the two countries. Just pray against miscalculations from either side due to how crowded that air space is.

mentorken05:
The way these things are going in Syria now, soon mistakes are gonna be made and everybody will start shooting everybody.
Not many are gonna understand the following...
Syrian military are Fighting ISIS, Al nusra and other Rebel groups.
The Rebels are fyting ISIS, Al nusra and The Syrian Army.
Al nusra are fyting Syrian army, ISIS and oda rebels.
The Kurdish Pershmaga (YPG) are fighting ISIS but friendly to PKK.
The PKK are fighting ISIS.
The Turks are fighting both ISIS and the PKK but friendly to the YPG.
The Iraqi military are fytin ISIS but are friendly to the PKK, d Turks but not the YPG
The Iranians are supporting the Syrians and Iraqis in fight against ISIS only.
The Americans and dia western allies are fighting ISIS and are friendly to Turkey, Iraq, YPG and PKK, but not to the Iranians and d Syrian Govt.
The Hezbollah are fyting ISIS, and are friends wit d Syrian govt and d Iranians, but not the Americans
The Saudis are supporting Al Nusra and oda rebel groups fighting the Syrian govt and ISIS
Now the Russians av arrived, and av started fyting ISIS, Al nusra and oda rebel groups (who av western and Arabian backing) dat hav bn fytin the Syrain Govt
ISIS...fyting Everybody!

Easily the best ever comment on NL!

CSTR2:
I am not against routing terrorists,heck that is what the US wants to do.
The motive of the russians is in question.
Why syria? Why are they not bombing alshabaab with drones in somalia just like the US has been doing?
What of alqueda? With networks throughout the middle-east. Why has russia not been active in routing alqueda?
What of north korea with their nukes? Why has russia not said anything if they cared about the world.?
Why are they sending weapons to iran that has promised the obliteration of the state of isreal?
These russians are thugs.

Because these terrorists pose an immediate threat to the national security of Russia. Russia's Tartus naval base aside, the Chechen terrorists amongst their ranks will be shipped off to the Caucasus as soon as they are done with Syria just as the were moved from Libya over to Syria. What other possible motive would Russia have for getting involved in Syria? YOU TELL ME!
Same motive applies to China which although is not militarily engaged at the moment, has given its tacit approval of Russia actions cos China too is under threat through the Uyghurs in the ranks of ISIS who could very well be used in Xinjiang province as well. The Uyghurs (World Uyghur Congress --WUC) have even been used to attack Chinese interests in Thailand a few weeks back. LOOK IT UP YOURSELF!

And who says RUssia isn't attacking AlQaeda? Al-Nusra and FSA positions that's they bombed yesterday - what are those?

Russia is intervening in Syria under the auspices of the legitimate and elected Syrian government and according to International law. Can you say same for the U.S.? How come ISIS has grown in strength since this so called US bombing campaign started? Can you answer that? Have you even read the articles I posted?

Russia can't get itself involved in every hot spot in the world. Are you suggesting they go take on a nuclear armed North Korea? Towards what end? Has North Korea threatened Russia?
Of what strategic benefit is attacking Al-shabaab is to Russia?
Russia isn't supplying offensive weapons to Iran. S-300 air defense weapons hardly pose any threat to Israel. Rather we should be asking why Israel is hell bent on attacking Iran and has got nuclear weapons of its own!

CSTR2:
And this is more provocative than russia invading georgia and annexing crimea?
Your anti-western bias stinks.

Oga, the people of Crimea by an overwhelming majority (96%) requested to be reunited (Yes it was once part of Russia) with Russia. They did this fearing for what would become of them who are predominantly Russians should the Banderite & Neo-nazi puppet govt that had just been installed by the Victoria Nuland and co, turn its sight on them. You are at least aware of the characters in the ranks of this new Ukrainian government right?

Georgia? Lol! Google that war yourself. I'm sure you will discover who the provocateur was from the very first paragraph. The then Georgian president Sakaashvili ( who is spectacularly now the governor of Odessa in Ukraine ) instigated that crisis.

Oga, the US is outta control!

Shymm3x:


When has air strikes alone ever won anything? Obviously, there will be boots on the ground - but they'd most likely be special forces, paratroopers, and naval troops (at Tartus at least). The US and other nations also have their special forces in Iraq and most likely Syria, else they won't be bombing targets in both places.

Anyway, Russian troops (though limited) would fight alongside Iranians (they're sending 20,000 troops), Syrians, Hezbollah, Chinese special forces (about 500 from the source I read), Iraqis, and I expect Serbians to go out there as well. It's a war of necessity and no PR junk can end him.

Lol. Obviously, they aren't coming to the US but never say never in an all out war between the two countries. Just pray against miscalculations from either side due to how crowded that air space is.

I think the reason the US airstrike is unsuccessful is because they do not have their troops on the ground. US is relying on the Iraqis they trained and the "moderate" rebels they are arming in Syria.

If Russia coordinates its strikes with Iran (Quds forces) and Syrian army, I dont think they will need to used their own troops to do any actual fighting. Unlike Obama, Putin has many options without getting too much backlash at home as long as no Russian is dead for now.

NaijaTalkTown:
For the Saudis, it is about eliminating competitors in the oil & gas business. For the US, it is about sorrounding Russia with hostile governments and terrorists to consume some of their military strenght.

Syria doesn't have Oil and the Saudis are not comfortable with Shiites. The Saudis will give a jew a hug than share a handshake with a Shiite

CSTR2:
And this is more provocative than russia invading georgia and annexing crimea?
Your anti-western bias stinks.

Russia will simply escalate by destroying all rebel targets including any one found loitering around the targets; they can also supply Iran, North Korean, Yemeni houtis, Hamas, Hezbollah, Argentina, Serbs, Ukraine pro-Russian Forces, Georgia rebels etc up till date Russian made sophisticated weapons which Will target United States & her allies.

This may lead to world war 3.

Shymm3x:


The US doesn't care about no Arab spring or anyone - apart from whatever it orchestrates to protect its influence/interests. It will support the devil and use its media to paint him as a saint -as long as the devil can protect its interests.

Saudi Arabia, Qatar, and UAE should have been bombed time ago - these three countries are the biggest threat to world peace (apart from US of course), yet the US is in bed with them. Together, they created Jihadists and all these Muslim extremists.

The media is the most powerful weapon the US has on its side. Saudi has been the sponsor off terrorism since time immemorial.

Gaborone:



Hmmm...Arab spring...



Can I simply read the response to your questions and sit it out? lol

I inivited you to make a strong contribution instead of being an observer.



Plz contribute

Missy89:

I think the reason the US airstrike is unsuccessful is because they do not have their troops on the ground. US is relying on the Iraqis they trained and the "moderate" rebels they are arming in Syria.

If Russia coordinates its strikes with Iran (Quds forces) and Syrian army, I dont think they will need to used their own troops to do any actual fighting. Unlike Obama, Putin has many options without getting too much backlash at home as long as no Russian is dead for now.

Lmao @ the bold. Stop living in denial and being politically correct. You know the truth...either say it, or just ignore. So, you mean the US is relying on the same Iraqis they haven't been coordinating their air strikes with, no? How many times have the Iraqis made complaints about the US acting alone? And what do you think the massive and heavily fortified US embassy in Iraq is for? We all know the CIA has a command and control centre at the rebels' stronghold and that was probably where the Russians bombed yesterday. And there are US special forces in Iraq at least.

They have Russian weapons out there...who will operate those weapons? They will send troops there...it's wishful thinking to think they won't. And I'm sure there are Russian troops out there right now.

Missy89:



I think the reason the US airstrike is unsuccessful is because they do not have their troops on the ground. US is relying on the Iraqis they trained and the "moderate" rebels they are arming in Syria.

If Russia coordinates its strikes with Iran (Quds forces) and Syrian army, I dont think they will need to used their own troops to do any actual fighting. Unlike Obama, Putin has many options without getting too much backlash at home as long as no Russian is dead for now.

The entry of Russia will be a game changer in that war. The US needs Russia to clean their mess there because they know that it will be dangerous to remove Assad with the FSA not strong enough to rule Syria and AL Nusra breathing down the neck of FSA.


The US taxpayers were the only people scammed in this bogus war.

ECOTERRORS:
The media is the most powerful weapon the US has on its side. Saudi has been the sponsor off terrorism since time immemorial.

Saudi doesn't sponsor terrorism. Your accusation is false and lacks substance, of what benefit will it be for Saudi to sponsor terrorists that refers to the ruling family as apostates alongside with scholars of Saudi? Stop misinforming the public please.

Missy89

Russia is deploying over 50 air crafts and choppers. Who will operate them without boots on the ground? The deployment shows that it's an all out war - not just an air strike campaign, and thousands of Russian troops would be involved.

Told you a few days when these folks were trying to play diversion tactics in the media with the useless NASA discovery of water on Mars. That was the same day Putin made his speech at the UN and from the speech you could see the handwriting on wall. He understands what's going on, and the need to act.

seunmsg:
Air strikes without a strong and powerful ground troops can't halt the spread of ISIS and Russia knows this. The strikes are mainly targeted at the opposition forces who are fighting Assad. Russia's strategy is to weaken the opposition forces and then force the western powers to see Assad as the lesser of the remaining two evils and hence, form a coalition to defeat Isis with Assad still in place.

Guy thumbs up in all the comments I read so far u are the only one that says it the way it is happening,many did not read the details, rather the heading abt russia striking ISIS which gave room for all every analogy.everybody showing ITK

Shymm3x:


Lmao @ the bold. Stop living in denial and being politically correct. You know the truth...either say it, or just ignore. So, you mean the US is relying on the same Iraqis they haven't been coordinating their air strikes with, no? How many times have the Iraqis made complaints about the US acting alone? And what do you think the massive and heavily fortified US embassy in Iraq is for? We all know the CIA has a command and control centre at the rebels' stronghold and that was probably where the Russians bombed yesterday. And there are US special forces in Iraq at least.

They have Russian weapons out there...who will operate those weapons? They will send troops there...it's wishful thinking to think they won't. And I'm sure there are Russian troops out there right now.

You will be very wrong if you think Americans are fighting on the front-line when American proxies can do the job. Russia will never use real troops until the situation is out of control just like they did in the donbass. The special forces on both sides will do more advising than fighting.

Truthpallbearer:
Saudi doesn't sponsor terrorism. Your accusation is false and lacks substance, of what benefit will it be for Saudi to sponsor terrorists that refers to the ruling family as apostates alongside with scholars of Saudi? Stop misinforming the public please.

Saudi is a known sponsor of Hamas, PLO, Abu Sayyaf, AL NUSRA and other terrorist org. Don't play saint witg me when Saudi and terrorism is mentioned. They fund them so that they don't threaten their Kingdom.


We all know the truth

Missy89:


You will be very wrong if you think Americans are fighting on the front-line when American proxies can do the job. Russia will never use real troops until the situation is out of control just like they did in the donbass. The special forces on both sides will do more advising than fighting.

Well, I never said fighting on the frontline. But you'd agree with me that you need special forces on the ground for air strikes, yes? if not, how will you get the right coordinates and targets to bomb?

Missy89:



I think the reason the US airstrike is unsuccessful is because they do not have their troops on the ground. US is relying on the Iraqis they trained and the "moderate" rebels they are arming in Syria.

If Russia coordinates its strikes with Iran (Quds forces) and Syrian army, I dont think they will need to used their own troops to do any actual fighting. Unlike Obama, Putin has many options without getting too much backlash at home as long as no Russian is dead for now.

Missy, I can tell that you are an intelligent person but they things you say sometimes; I wonder if you have had too much of Uncle Sam's koolaid or what?!

How can the US be successful when it has refused to coordinate with the primary and legitimate government force- The Syrian Arab Army- fighting these so called "rebels"?

That aside, WE ALL KNOW the real reason ISIS has been undefeated till now: ISIS is US and US is ISIS. Simple!

Why are highly placed officials in the Iraqi government ( the very same government that the US is supposedly coordinating with) accusing the UK and the US of air- dropping arms and ammunition for ISIS?
Why has Iraq decided to form a joint coordination center together with the Russians and Iranians in Baghdad? Can you answer that?

ECOTERRORS:
Saudi is a known sponsor of Hamas, PLO, Abu Sayyaf, AL NUSRA and other terrorist org. Don't play saint witg me when Saudi and terrorism is mentioned. They fund them so that they don't threaten their Kingdom.


We all know the truth

Saudi doesn't support al-qaeda or any other terror group, they provide humanitarian aids to the government of Palestine to help them run the affairs of their state as they do to other Muslim held governments e.g Bosnia, Albania, Pakistan, Afghanistan, some States in Nigeria etc. I repeat Saudi doesn't fund terrorist groups, had it been you mentioned Qatar I'd have remained silent.

Shymm3x:
Missy89

Russia is deploying over 50 air crafts and choppers. Who will operate them without boots on the ground? The deployment shows that it's an all out war - not just an air strike campaign, and thousands of Russian troops would be involved.

Told you a few days when these folks were trying to play diversion tactics in the media with the useless NASA discovery of water on Mars. That was the same day Putin made his speech at the UN and from the speech you could see the handwriting on wall. He understands what's going on, and the need to act.

Syrian army will do most of the ground fighting with Russian advisers. airstrikes will be Russian personnel of course. Personally, I just think it will be too early to commit Russian troops to the front line because, Syria itself has sufficient troops to do the job with Russia acting as assad air force. When the situation become precarious however, you can rule out Russian boot on the ground.

Right now, there is no reason to involve them just yet,

Truthpallbearer:
Saudi doesn't sponsor terrorism. Your accusation is false and lacks substance, of what benefit will it be for Saudi to sponsor terrorists that refers to the ruling family as apostates alongside with scholars of Saudi? Stop misinforming the public please.

I give up!

Truthpallbearer:
Saudi doesn't support al-qaeda or any other terror group, they provide humanitarian aids to the government of Palestine to help them run the affairs of their state as they do to other Muslim held governments e.g Bosnia, Albania, Pakistan, Afghanistan, some States in Nigeria etc. I repeat Saudi doesn't fund terrorist groups, had it been you mentioned Qatar I'd have remained silent.

I give up on people like you. The Saudis are the real agent provacateux in the middle east. There is no free food anywhere plz.

NairaMinted:


Missy, I can tell that you are an intelligent person but they things you say sometimes; I wonder if you have had too much of Uncle Sam's koolaid or what?!

How can the US be successful when it has refused to coordinate with the primary and legitimate government force- The Syrian Arab Army- fighting these so called "rebels"?

That aside, WE ALL KNOW the real reason ISIS has been undefeated till now: ISIS is US and US is ISIS. Simple!

Why are highly placed officials in the Iraqi government ( the very same government that the US is supposedly coordinating with) accusing the UK and the US of air- dropping arms and ammunition for ISIS?

Why has Iraq decided to form a joint coordination center together with the Russians and Iranians in Baghdad? Can you answer that?

The situation is more complicated than that. It is not politically beneficial for any US administration to commit troops on the ground to fight ISIS. On US being ISIS and ISIS being US. That is very subjective. There is good reason or should i say there is a whole lot of truth to think IS is supported by US allies however.

My point is , Russia is doing the same thing the US is currently doing. which is "NOT FIGHTING ISIS" Russia wants to keep assad by bombing the US "Moderates" and US wants to oust Assad by targeting the Syrian army. Either way, ISIS is secondary at this point

uselessgoat:


stop misleading people. Russia cannot withstand britain in europe. Moscow will be a graveyard within 1hr.

Haba why u dey talk like dis na britain to russia.

The award for biggest mismanaged conflict goes to America! Well done Putin we've got ur back.


There are NO moderate rebel groups ....all the groups fighting Asad are either ISIS or offshoots of al qaeda or other extreme i s l a m i s t militias ...Putin and Russia are doing the world a favour in blasting these fanatics to pieces.

Shymm3x:


Well, I never said fighting on the frontline. But you'd agree with me that you need special forces on the ground for air strikes, yes? if not, how will you get the right coordinates and targets to bomb?

Of course.

I dont think either side is ready to fight ISIS yet thou. if Russia can successfully eliminate us moderates, then it will be easier to deal with ISIS later. Right now, Russia seems to hold all the cards.

ECOTERRORS:
I give up on people like you. The Saudis are the real agent provacateux in the middle east. There is no free food anywhere plz.

Iran is the real provacateur, they operate covertly via its proxies in the region. They provided safe haven for known terror kingpins. The Iranian nuclear deal will prove to be biggest mistake of US and its allies. Mark my words

Missy89:


The situation is more complicated than that. It is not politically beneficial for any US administration to commit troops on the ground to fight ISIS. On US being ISIS and ISIS being US. That is very subjective. There is good reason or should i say there is a whole lot of truth to think IS is supported by US allies however.

My point is , Russia is doing the same thing the US is currently doing. which is "NOT FIGHTING ISIS" Russia wants to keep assad by bombing the US "Moderates" and US wants to oust Assad by targeting the Syrian army. Either way, ISIS is secondary at this point

About "ISIS being US and US being ISIS", well I can't change ur standpoint but something tells me that deep inside you know the truth.

What is different about Russia's strategy is that the SAA, Iran, Hezbollah, the Kurds & a limited number of Russian troops ( primarily support and logistics role) will form the ground troops that the hegemon lacks (Except for the Kurds in northern Syria that the US supports and also treacherously allows Turkey to bomb at the same time)

Missy, dear, you gotta admit that US foreign policy is in tatters and run by war mongering l.u.n.a.tics!

L.u.n.a.tics such as these:

“This is an acknowledgment that U.S. stated goal to degrade and destroy ISIS is not working. If it were, we would not be talking to these not quite foreign terrorist groups.”

Retired Army general and former CIA Director David Petraeus advocating for the use of Al-Qaeda (supposed perpetrators of 9/11 o!) to fight ISIS.

Truthpallbearer:
Iran is the real provacateur, they operate covertly via its proxies in the region. They provided safe haven for known terror kingpins. The Iranian nuclear deal will prove to be biggest mistake of US and its allies. Mark my words

I think you are a Sunni who wants Iran to be wiped out but Iran will always be a counter weight to the Saudis who sponsors terrors and massacres civillians in Yemen because they are scared of the Houthis

Missy89:

Syrian army will do most of the ground fighting with Russian advisers. airstrikes will be Russian personnel of course. Personally, I just think it will be too early to commit Russian troops to the front line because, Syria itself has sufficient troops to do the job with Russia acting as assad air force. When the situation become precarious however, you can rule out Russian boot on the ground.

Right now, there is no reason to involve them just yet,

Syrian troops have been fighting for more than four years and obviously their morale would low, hence the need for more firepower and troops. I also doubt they have enough troops to go all the way right now. I believe they need a concerted effort to tilt the war in their favour again, from the stalemate - to get them back on their game.

Let's just see how it unfolds...but don't rule out anything cos Putin wants to go all the way with this one.

Missy89:


Of course.

I dont think either side is ready to fight ISIS yet thou. if Russia can successfully eliminate us moderates, then it will be easier to deal with ISIS later. Right now, Russia seems to hold all the cards.

Nah, the US isn't ready to fight ISIS - but Russia wants to bomb both ISIS and US trained Jihadists in Syria to smithereens, hence Iraq is part of the coalition. ISIS is the biggest cancer that's about to spread its tentacles to Euroasia and both are threats to Russia and its interests.