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Re: Give Our Age Grade Teams A Break! by Bollinger(m): 8:22am On Nov 18, 2015
TheGoodJoe:


You make an illogical point and call someone's comment an illogical rant.

What does other teams failing in senior competition have to do with the fact that FIFA scientifically proved that these boys are really young?

Are you phucking serious? what is the purpose of the under 17 competition? Sorry, a reta.rd wouldn't know the answer. It is to generate and discover a small fraction of talent for the future as well as build a solid base for the senior teams. For a country who has won the competition 5 times we are not showing any signs that the objective is being met because of cheats like you.
Re: Give Our Age Grade Teams A Break! by asha80(m): 8:23am On Nov 18, 2015
safarigirl:
why are you calling Chrisantus? Was there MRI then?

I speak on behalf of the boys I'm familiar with. I speak for Kelechi Iheanacho, Taiwo Awoniyi, Chidera Eze, Musa Yahaya, Zaharadeen Bello, Akpan Udoh, Kekechi Nwakali, Victor Osimhen.

I will not sit by and allow misinformed people kill these boys' young careers by lumping them with guys that played when they were in Primary School. If tomorrow, you're denied a Visa because Nigerians are drug dealers, how will you feel?

Your own son could be a member of the Nigerian U17 team in years to come, how do you think your 16-year old will feel when he wins and is accused of being older because of a certain Chrisantus he barely even knows?


Forget Chrisantus and Stanley, focus on this new generation. You all forget that we missed the 2011 edition of the U17, why? Did we run out of over aged players? Did it not occur to you that maybe we missed it because we were trying to build a young team?
kelechi iheanacho was 26 when he played that u17..i am owerri based
Re: Give Our Age Grade Teams A Break! by safarigirl(f): 8:23am On Nov 18, 2015
adisarasaq:


I think the number of comments on a post determines it's eligibility for front page
nope. If so, I know many topics with at least 50 comments that never made FP and some with 3 posts making FP

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Re: Give Our Age Grade Teams A Break! by An0nimus: 8:24am On Nov 18, 2015
Bollinger:


Bro's, why are you talking as if this is the only competition that has ever been played at this level. Is the under 2015 competition the only one in existence?
OK Sir. let's go back 5 tournaments. Give me 1 Nigerian player that was 13/14 years old. It might seem a lot of work but you're the one with a theory I find hard to accept and hence should be proved.

...with facts.

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Re: Give Our Age Grade Teams A Break! by asha80(m): 8:25am On Nov 18, 2015
safarigirl:
my friend don't be stoopid.

Your arguments that FIFA which is headed by mostly Europeans, would allow Africans and S/Americans cheat while denying their own people that option is even dumber than the usual '...my 22-year old cousin applied for U17 and was rejected for being too young'

So this Uncle was 17 like this?
before you ignorantly call someone stupid which countries do you understand by western Europe?

Secondly that the fact you stated that oh because south Americans and Africans are 'allowed to cheat' means western European people who man these bodies would also allow their people cheat shows how the dishonesty which is naija induced is clouding your system...if the western Europeans cheat are you say why is it that they find it hard winning u17 and the likes while African trams sweat to reach quarter final of world cup?

By the way the Swedish guy you posted there have confirmed if he was actually born I Sweden or a child of a migrant who carried him and then naturalized as swedeish?hope you know there would be no birth record of him aside what he or his parents say?

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Re: Give Our Age Grade Teams A Break! by TheGoodJoe(m): 8:26am On Nov 18, 2015
Bollinger:


Are you phucking serious? what is the purpose of the under 17 competition? Sorry, a reta.rd wouldn't know the answer. It is to generate and discover a small fraction of talent for the future as well as build a solid base for the senior teams. For a country who has won the competition 5 times we are not showing any signs that the objective is being met because of cheats like you.

So what does this rant have to do with the fact, these guys are scientifically proven young. I repeat, Scientifically proven young. I hope you understand the meaning of Scientific.
Re: Give Our Age Grade Teams A Break! by Menace2Society(m): 8:26am On Nov 18, 2015
fuke:


There 2 major ways.ways.
1. you go to the bottom and click reply and then make your comments.
2.If you wish to reply to a post, you click quote under the post and make your comments.
keep trying you will get used to it with time.
Mumu grin
Re: Give Our Age Grade Teams A Break! by Bollinger(m): 8:29am On Nov 18, 2015
An0nimus:

OK Sir. let's go back 5 tournaments. Give me 1 Nigerian player that was 13/14 years old. It might seem a lot of work but you're the one with a theory I find hard to accept and hence should be proved.

...with facts.

Lol. . .You see because i don't believe in the MRI crap i generally lump all competitions together. Fatai atere claimed to be 13, Hilary adika claimed to be 14. Bro's either way, Nigeria is a fraud as with all things and we need to change our ways. How can anyone tell me these guys are 17 years old? Really?

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Re: Give Our Age Grade Teams A Break! by TheGoodJoe(m): 8:31am On Nov 18, 2015
asha80:
kelechi iheanacho was 26 when he played that u17..i am owerri based

Bloody Liar.

Kelechi Iheanacho joined Taye Academy as an under 10 player. Are you saying he was 17years old playing in an U10 team with Children of ten years?

You guys can lie. Tufiakwa.

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Re: Give Our Age Grade Teams A Break! by Bollinger(m): 8:31am On Nov 18, 2015
TheGoodJoe:


So what does this rant have to do with the fact, these guys are scientifically proven young. I repeat, Scientifically proven young. I hope you understand the meaning of Scientific.

18 percent margin for error is not "scientifically proven". If you are that dull let me explain it to you. It means in our squad, their is a chance that 18 percent of the boys could be over aged. Clear enough?
Re: Give Our Age Grade Teams A Break! by stildude(m): 8:31am On Nov 18, 2015
I told y'all that that paps eaglet article was borne out of tribal mischief. It wss stupid of the writer and the mode who brought it to front page not to know that while they intended to spite the victorious team and by extention their ethnic backgrounds, They had all of us shamed. Don't look at me, I am not igbo!

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Re: Give Our Age Grade Teams A Break! by NiRfreak(m): 8:31am On Nov 18, 2015
kel4soft:

You should be ashame of yourself with this post. Have you looked thoroughly through my post and point out where i insulted any commentator here? Do you think the statistics you re referring me to are more reliable than the facts available? Finally, learn manners if you don't have one or better still; courtesy should be your watchword from hence forth.
My courtesy and good manners is not reserved for people who drag the image of dis country in d mud with their coconut head ressoning......
Re: Give Our Age Grade Teams A Break! by TheGoodJoe(m): 8:33am On Nov 18, 2015
Bollinger:


18 percent margin for error is not "scientifically proven". If you are that dull let me explain it to you. It means in our squad, their is a chance that 18 percent of the boys could be over aged. Clear enough?

So does 18 percent mean the team is over aged? Do you know in that 18%, many of them can not be more than 19 years old.

So it is a young squad. So what is your problem?
Re: Give Our Age Grade Teams A Break! by bigwallace(m): 8:33am On Nov 18, 2015
These present set of u17 aint 17 take me to any law court nd I will still say it anywere,none of them is 17,likee I said am involved in all dis academies nd I know how it goes av bin in d system for long,the 2013 set is d closest we've gotten.
Re: Give Our Age Grade Teams A Break! by safarigirl(f): 8:33am On Nov 18, 2015
asha80:
kelechi iheanacho was 26 when he played that u17..i am owerri based
mbok tell me another lie. I'm Abuja based, Omeruo was found in Abuja, but I never heard of him till 2011.

Being based in a place doesn't mean you know people, you probably know only 3% of people in Owerri. First someone from Jos told you Chrisantus is 30, now you know Iheanacho is 26 because you're Owerri based, the other dolt on a separate thread said Iheanacho turns 23 this year, his claims are based on the fact that Iheanacho's Academy is on his street.

So which of you liars should be believed? I swear, y'all pray I never become a lawmaker, I'll make sure every single one of you spends at least a week in jail for all your useless lies. You could get sued for such slander in the western world.


That is why nobody in the European countries or the America's accuse their players, because they have laws to ensure that such ignoramuses are jailed where there is no solid proof

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Re: Give Our Age Grade Teams A Break! by TheGoodJoe(m): 8:35am On Nov 18, 2015
stildude:
I told y'all that that paps eaglet article was borne out of tribal mischief. It wss stupid of the writer and the mode who brought it to front page not to know that while they intended to spite the victorious team and by extention their ethnic backgrounds, They had all of us shamed. Don't look at me, I am not igbo!

I agree. These guys made us look archaic, arguing with Scientific facts.

Some will think we are cave men with Mobile phones.
Re: Give Our Age Grade Teams A Break! by oyetpel(m): 8:35am On Nov 18, 2015
MathsChic:
Wow! Eye opener.
However the case, I don't think Nigeria's dominance results from using over-aged players. Has anyone heard of the any players in the Swiss team that won the tournament back then in Nigeria?
The quality of football in the u17 category is just enough to allow Nigeria win. Higher quality football at the senior levels requires more playing/training hours with specifics on tactics and strategy. Nigeria hasn't got its head around this.
If anyone should want to raise flags about age cheaters, it should be with the Brazilian team that hasn't won the cup again post-MRI.
Whatever the case though, I believe there's high likelihood the Nigerians are older than 17. MRI doesn't put a cut-off at 17. It will still allow 18, 19, 20 and sometimes 21 pass. Is this enough to invalidate the Nigerian victory? I don't think so. You have to consider that even the other teams are not completely innocent of age cheating. Plus, stature-wise, the Nigerians stand on equal footing with the other teams from the rest of the world. And this is where i think the focus should be.
True 15-16 year old boys from Nigeria are too tiny to give the other teams any competition.
Dont go there, i mean you asking about Switzerland world cup U17 team 2009..Most of them are first team player, Haris Seferović, he scored two goals yesterday for Switzerland first team, Nassim Ben Khalifa, Ricardo Rodríguez, Pajtim Kasami,
Granit Xhaka. .
Bro you have said thd truth, our real U17s are not matured enough to compete..
Re: Give Our Age Grade Teams A Break! by Bollinger(m): 8:35am On Nov 18, 2015
TheGoodJoe:


So does 18 percent mean the team is over aged? Do you know in that 18%, many of them can not be more than 19 years old.

So it is a young squad.

[b]SOMEONE HELP ME EXPLAIN TO THIS I.DIOT THAT HE CANNOT CONTINUE TO CONTRADICT HIMSELF. HE NEEDS TO GO GET A REFUND OF HIS TUITION FEES. THAT IS IF HE ACTUALLY WENT TO ANY KIND OF INSTITUTION. OR BETTER STILL CLOSE DOWN THE INSTITUTION FOR CHURNING OUT RE.TARDS LIKE HIM
. JESUS.
Re: Give Our Age Grade Teams A Break! by NiRfreak(m): 8:35am On Nov 18, 2015
Bollinger:


18 percent margin for error is not "scientifically proven". If you are that dull let me explain it to you. It means in our squad, their is a chance that 18 percent of the boys could be over aged. Clear enough?
IF FIFA accepts18% margin for error....so whats your cry for?.... why not invent a superior technology that wil not permit any chance for error.
Re: Give Our Age Grade Teams A Break! by asha80(m): 8:37am On Nov 18, 2015
safarigirl:
mbok tell me another lie. I'm Abuja based, Omeruo was found in Abuja, but I never heard of him till 2011.

Being based in a place doesn't mean you know people, you probably know only 3% of people in Owerri. First someone from Jos told you Chrisantus is 30, now you know Iheanacho is 26 because you're Owerri based, the other dolt on a separate thread said Iheanacho turns 23 this year, his claims are based on the fact that Iheanacho's Academy is on his street.

So which of you liars should be believed? I swear, y'all pray I never become a lawmaker, I'll make sure every single one of you spends at least a week in jail for all your useless lies. You could get sued for such slander in the western world.


That is why nobody in the European countries or the America's accuse their players, because they be laws to ensure that such ignoramuses are jailed where there is no solid proof
do you know about taye youth team in owerri? Have you heard of pakat? I just pity your lame defence...why would western europeans accuse their players of being over aged when their ages are documented at birth(for those born there)? Or you think they are like us that dont document important things? Have you ever lived in western europe before?..continue wallowing in ignorance
Re: Give Our Age Grade Teams A Break! by wisdommos(m): 8:37am On Nov 18, 2015
youre so on point with this post. I wonder how nigerians reason. My youngest Brother is 13 now and he is almost 6ft.
TheSuperNerd:
Look, I've tried all I can with long epistles to kick out the "negativity" and "lies" in the minds of most Nigerians.

The mindset is so wrong!!!

It's really Crazy!!! When the "facts" are clear, they try to debunk them with "unintelligent" comments like, "bros or sister, this na Naija. Anything can happen..... Bla bla bla"

Why can't Nigerians stop living in the past and open their eyes to see that "change" has come?

Why can't Nigerians see "the light"? Why can't Nigerians see that a new era of true young talents were born in 2013 and that has carried on into 2015 and more will still follow?

The MRI Screening (which checks the fusion of Growth plates in the joint of the left wrist--- can be done for other joints also) is, on the whole, 99% accurate for 16-17 year olds whose epiphyseal growth plates is yet to fuse.

If the
growth plate areas (epiphyses) are still open then
the player is still within the age limit of 17 because
research shows that players with growth plates yet
to fuse at the wrists are 99% super-likely or most certainly 17 or
less. The likelihood of such a one being 18 or more
is 1% (due to rare biological variations).


Also, players with fused growth plates at the wrist or
in any other bone region around any joint are 1%
likely to be 17 or less. Meaning they're 99% likely to
be overaged (over 17).
And we all know a teenager's growth between 14
and 18/19 can be very rapid and exponential.



Why is the average Nigerian so mediocritic?? Why the hate? Why the envy?

It's tiring. It's sickening. It's irritating.

Gosh!!!! I'm done talking. No more of this for me. Let everyone believe whatever they wanna believe. I got a world to conquer and I'm sure these boys got big dreams to actualize too. Let Nigerians keep hating while the "Bright-minded ones" like us keep soaring.

Such a pity.


P.S: MRI was introduced in 2009 but used fairly randomly. It became "fully applied" from the 2011 U-17 edition and remains so till date.

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Re: Give Our Age Grade Teams A Break! by wisdommos(m): 8:38am On Nov 18, 2015
Bro Ugliness does mean someone is old in age. Use your head.
Bollinger:


Lol. . .You see because i don't believe in the MRI crap i generally lump all competitions together. Fatai atere claimed to be 13, Hilary adika claimed to be 14. Bro's either way, Nigeria is a fraud as with all things and we need to change our ways. How can anyone tell me these guys are 17 years old? Really?

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Re: Give Our Age Grade Teams A Break! by Bollinger(m): 8:38am On Nov 18, 2015
NiRfreak:
IF FIFA accepts18% margin for error....so whats your cry for?.... why not invent a superior technology that wil not permit any chance for error.

Oh God!!!
Re: Give Our Age Grade Teams A Break! by TheGoodJoe(m): 8:39am On Nov 18, 2015
Bollinger:


SOMEONE HELP ME EXPLAIN TO THIS I.DIOT THAT HE CANNOT CONTINUE TO CONTRADICT HIMSELF. HE NEEDS TO GO GET A REFUND OF HIS TUITION FEES. THAT IS IF HE ACTUALLY WENT TO ANY KIND OF INSTITUTION. OR BETTER STILL CLOSE DOWN THE INSTITUTION FOR CHURNING OUT RE.TARDS LIKE HIM. JESUS.

Answer the question before abusing. The MRI scan has a margin of failure. It does not mean our players failed by the exact margin. Even if a small fraction passed, it does not mean they are above 19 years.

So answer the simple question before calling someone a retard.

If those players are scientifically proven young, What is your problem?

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Re: Give Our Age Grade Teams A Break! by Bollinger(m): 8:40am On Nov 18, 2015
wisdommos:
Bro Ugliness does mean someone is old in age. Use your head.

I obviously am. Are you?
Re: Give Our Age Grade Teams A Break! by NiRfreak(m): 8:41am On Nov 18, 2015
Bollinger:


SOMEONE HELP ME EXPLAIN TO THIS I.DIOT THAT HE CANNOT CONTINUE TO CONTRADICT HIMSELF. HE NEEDS TO GO GET A REFUND OF HIS TUITION FEES. THAT IS IF HE ACTUALLY WENT TO ANY KIND OF INSTITUTION. OR BETTER STILL CLOSE DOWN THE INSTITUTION FOR CHURNING OUT RE.TARDS LIKE HIM. JESUS.
Na u no get brain....if 18% is the error margin....then it implies dat 18 % age error is allowed by FIFA ....and u shd know that no technology can be 100% efficient....am sure FIFA understands dis fact.....but u fail to....

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Re: Give Our Age Grade Teams A Break! by An0nimus: 8:42am On Nov 18, 2015
Bollinger:


Lol. . .You see because i don't believe in the MRI crap i generally lump all competitions together. Fatai atere claimed to be 13, Hilary adika claimed to be 14. Bro's either way, Nigeria is a fraud as with all things and we need to change our ways. How can anyone tell me these guys are 17 years old? Really?
Bollinger:


Lol. . .You see because i don't believe in the MRI crap i generally lump all competitions together. Fatai atere claimed to be 13, Hilary adika claimed to be 14. Bro's either way, Nigeria is a fraud as with all things and we need to change our ways. How can anyone tell me these guys are 17 years old? Really?

Fatai Atere MON (born August 1, 1971 in Lagos ,
Nigeria ) is a former Nigerian footballer. Atere played for the Golden Eaglets in the 1st Kodak Under 17 World Cup in China , and won the cup by defeating West Germany in the final. He captained the Golden Eaglets in the Canadian under-16 World Championship two years later, and became the runner up to USSR .

source :Wikipedia

dude seriously? you brought someone born just after the Nigerian civil war into this argument.

I give up.

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Re: Give Our Age Grade Teams A Break! by Bollinger(m): 8:43am On Nov 18, 2015
TheGoodJoe:


Answer the question before abusing. The MRI scan has a margin of failure. It does not mean our players failed by the exact margin. Even if a small fraction passed, it does not mean they are above 19 years.

So answer the simple question before calling someone a retard.

If those players are scientifically proven young, What is your problem?

I love the way Nigerians love deceiving themselves. Even at the risk of future growth and development. They don't care. Instant gratification is all that matters. No wonder your minds are all phucked up. Change your outlook. Believe me you'll be pleasantly shocked when and if you do.
Re: Give Our Age Grade Teams A Break! by zynzyn(m): 8:43am On Nov 18, 2015
I shall reply adequately to your thread later!
Re: Give Our Age Grade Teams A Break! by TheGoodJoe(m): 8:43am On Nov 18, 2015
wisdommos:
youre so on point with this post. I wonder how nigerians reason. My youngest Brother is 13 now and he is almost 6ft.

My younger brother is an amateur basket baller and at Seventeen, he looked Older than his age because he trains hard everyday. The Nigerian U17 coach rejected him then because he did not believe his age. If they used the MRI then, he would have passed.

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Re: Give Our Age Grade Teams A Break! by Bollinger(m): 8:43am On Nov 18, 2015
An0nimus:



Fatai Atere MON (born August 1, 1971 in Lagos ,
Nigeria ) is a former Nigerian footballer. Atere played for the Golden Eaglets in the 1st Kodak Under 17 World Cup in China , and won the cup by defeating West Germany in the final. He captained the Golden Eaglets in the Canadian under-16 World Championship two years later, and became the runner up to USSR .

source :Wikipedia

dude seriously? you brought someone born just after the Nigerian civil war into this argument.

I give up.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1985_FIFA_U-16_World_Championship_squads#.C2.A0Nigeria

Don't give up yet. You said show me a player whose ever claimed to be 13 the world cup and i just did.
Re: Give Our Age Grade Teams A Break! by asha80(m): 8:45am On Nov 18, 2015
TheGoodJoe:



That Jos indigene is a bloody lair. Lies more than the serpent in the garden of Eden.

Macauley Chrisantus is still active in football today and in a respected team. If he was thirty in 2007, he will be 38 years now in a respected team like AEK Athens in Greece. He has played 24 games for them in 2015.

Let those guys rest with their lies.
donato and giggs were still playing for their clubs deportivo la coruna and man u respectively at the age 39 so what gives?

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