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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 12:08pm On Dec 30, 2015
Nigeria's Geographic Challenge

 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=irn2SWBRZWQ
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 12:18pm On Dec 30, 2015
The Geopolitical Impact of the Nile

 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TI6VaNG8_nE
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by stillchris: 12:24pm On Dec 30, 2015
CTCOIN

Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 1:20pm On Dec 30, 2015 
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oDBzRt_xjAo
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 1:34pm On Dec 30, 2015
General Mwathethe kenya chief of defence forces visit to kenyan troops in kismayo ,screen grab from this link https://vimeo.com/150053672

Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 1:45pm On Dec 30, 2015
why is it nairaland does support vimeo embedding ?
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 3:52pm On Dec 30, 2015
africaken:
AN178 has this sexy slick look that i like,in time we may see several of this planes in africa.considering it could be used for multi role purposes e.g military VIP transport
Definitely a very attractive aircraft, but I feel their are better suited aircraft for the VIP/multi role on the market.
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by mzilakazi(m): 4:40pm On Dec 30, 2015
THE NEW COMMANDER OF THE LARGEST UN MISSION, MONUSCO.

LT GENERAL: DERRICK MBUYISELO MGWEBI FROM SOUTH AFRICA



www.nairaland.com/attachments/3238720_0007514b1_jpeg9ba317d8098dc5da8608bdb6de5f27ed .
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 5:14pm On Dec 30, 2015
ethiopia AMISOM soldiers with Ethiopian made body armour

Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 5:22pm On Dec 30, 2015
KDF security detail of the departing kenya defence forces AMISOM force commander in somalia,before boarding his flight to kenya. here is the video link https://vimeo.com/149847074

Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 5:55pm On Dec 30, 2015
SANDF

Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 6:50pm On Dec 30, 2015
crazy russian grin

 
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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 8:07pm On Dec 30, 2015
Goodwill Parcel Project Congo

 
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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 8:51pm On Dec 30, 2015
we will never learn!allowing our police to carry out their duties soft skin vehicles ,while fighting an insurgency in region ridden with I.E.D's .in this ambush this month we lost two policemen .we have lost several police and soldiers this month along kenya/somalia border http://www.nation.co.ke/counties/Two-police-officers-killed-in-Al-Shabaab-attack-in-Mandera/-/1107872/3011436/-/90u8qb/-/index.html

Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 9:02pm On Dec 30, 2015
Algeria has ordered SU-34 jets from russia

Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 9:33pm On Dec 30, 2015
africaken:
Algeria has ordered SU-34 jets from russia

Source?
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 9:41pm On Dec 30, 2015
africaken:
we will never learn!allowing our police to carry out their duties soft skin vehicles ,while fighting an insurgency in region ridden with I.E.D's .in this ambush this month we lost two policemen .we have lost several police and soldiers this month along kenya/somalia border http://www.nation.co.ke/counties/Two-police-officers-killed-in-Al-Shabaab-attack-in-Mandera/-/1107872/3011436/-/90u8qb/-/index.html

It isn't really that simple. MRAPs cost between $500,000- $1,000,000. If there are 20,000 security forces along the border, those men would need 2,500 MRAPs to convey them.

2,500 x 500,000 = $1.2 billion.

Where is Kenya supposed to get 1.2 billion for MRAPs alone from?

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by MikeCZAR: 2:32am On Dec 31, 2015
africaken:
Algeria has ordered SU-34 jets from russia
People still doubt what operational use can do?
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by kikuyu1(m): 8:18am On Dec 31, 2015
africaken:
south africa gripen are armed with R-Darter with a range of 60km not meteor AAM .Secondly a gripen has combat radius of 800Km while SU-30 has a 3,000Km radius now who has endurance !
IIRC,this is why the KAF said no the Grip when offered in 2008. Tactically speaking all the shortcomings compared to the Sue make it too defensive minded.
-Single engine
-short range
-combat radar short sighted

Its obvious! Just don't tell the S Africans!
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by MikeCZAR: 8:25am On Dec 31, 2015
kikuyu1:

IIRC,this is why the KAF said no the Grip when offered in 2008. Tactically speaking all the shortcomings compared to the Sue make it too defensive minded.
-Single engine
-short range
-combat radar short sighted

Its obvious! Just don't tell the S Africans!
grin grin grin
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by andrewza: 9:37am On Dec 31, 2015
kikuyu1:

IIRC,this is why the KAF said no the Grip when offered in 2008. Tactically speaking all the shortcomings compared to the Sue make it too defensive minded.
-Single engine
-short range
-combat radar short sighted

Its obvious! Just don't tell the S Africans!

Cheaper to run and maintain

Better in one v one air to air combat

Easyier to deploy from small or improvised runways.

Diffrent needs and requiments.

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by iblawi(m): 10:08am On Dec 31, 2015
kikuyu1:

IIRC,this is why the KAF said no the Grip when offered in 2008. Tactically speaking all the shortcomings compared to the Sue make it too defensive minded.
-Single engine
-short range
-combat radar short sighted

Its obvious! Just don't tell the S Africans!

South Africans claim their Gripen is the best in the world. It's even better than that of Sweden.
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by andrewza: 10:12am On Dec 31, 2015
iblawi:


South Africans claim their Gripen is the best in the world. It's even better than that of Sweden.

Citastion needed

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by iblawi(m): 10:19am On Dec 31, 2015
andrewza:


Citastion needed
jln115:

Nope we didn't forget anything, anyway the Human machine interface of the SAAF Gripen is South Africa, so is the HMD, not to mention the AAMs.

And we didn't use lower grade components, in fact SAAF fly the most advanced Gripen C/Ds of any country!!

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by iblawi(m): 10:21am On Dec 31, 2015
andrewza:


Citastion needed
jln115:

Nope we didn't forget anything, anyway the Human machine interface of the SAAF Gripen is South Africa, so is the HMD, not to mention the AAMs.

And we didn't use lower grade components, in fact SAAF fly the most advanced Gripen C/Ds of any country!!

Have it bro
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 11:14am On Dec 31, 2015
iblawi:



Have it bro
https://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/aad-south-africa-receives-last-four-gripens-376804/

"The Gripen delivered to South Africa are " probably the most modern" versions of the aircraft , Lewis-Ollson says."

Oh and BTW Olsson is a former SAAB test pilot, if you doubted his credentials.
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 11:18am On Dec 31, 2015
jln115:

https://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/aad-south-africa-receives-last-four-gripens-376804/

"The Gripen delivered to South Africa are " probably the most modern" versions of the aircraft , Lewis-Ollson says."

Oh and BTW Olsson is a former SAAB test pilot, if you doubted his credentials.

Somebody's opinion doesn't equal fact.
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 11:22am On Dec 31, 2015
Henry240:


Somebody's opinion doesn't equal fact.
When the opinion comes from SAAB themselves about their own product, then it equals fact.
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by andrewza: 11:23am On Dec 31, 2015
Henry240:


Somebody's opinion doesn't equal fact.



well in many cases it is, though facts can change
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Patchesagain: 11:24am On Dec 31, 2015
kikuyu1:

IIRC,this is why the KAF said no the Grip when offered in 2008. Tactically speaking all the shortcomings compared to the Sue make it too defensive minded.
-Single engine
-short range
-combat radar short sighted

Its obvious! Just don't tell the S Africans!

1. Su-30 is massively expensive to operate, costing around $7000 per flight hour (Grip is ~$3000), newer models of Su30 can cost upwards of $14000 per hour

2. Single engine = less maintenance, therefore lower operating costs and less demand for new parts. Then you take into account that Russian engines arent very good....
- Su30's have serious engine problems, just look at India, they struggle to maintain 50% operationability for their Su30's (their target is ~70%)
- India has recorded no less than 69 engine failures since 2012 and recorded a wopping 35 technical failures in a one year period.

3. Yes, but due to the low RCS of the Gripen it means that it can take on and defeat Su30MKI's in BVR combat
http://www.africandefence.net/angolas-su-30ks-are-not-a-serious-threat-to-the-south-african-air-force/

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by andrewza: 11:30am On Dec 31, 2015
jln115:

https://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/aad-south-africa-receives-last-four-gripens-376804/

"The Gripen delivered to South Africa are " probably the most modern" versions of the aircraft , Lewis-Ollson says."

Oh and BTW Olsson is a former SAAB test pilot, if you doubted his credentials.

it is not our gripens that are more modern, just that they have more or different stuff. All gripens could use the HMD but we just used them first and though the A-darter is great the Swedish air force has a wider ranger of air to surface weapons. SAAF had many requirements for the gripen that are for us only, but ZA link is the same has Link 16 used by sweeden and others and we use the same EW these days and our radios are unquque for us, thats all really. In short there is no difference betwwen the aicraft only in our use of a HMD, but then again we had a HMD in the late 80s
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 11:31am On Dec 31, 2015
andrewza:




well in many cases it is, though facts can change

Not in this case, especially when the man projects sales of over 300 aircrafts after the South-African order. Projections which have proven to be unreliable.

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