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Re: Inquiry For Justcool And M_nwankwo And Other Adherents Of The Grail Message by Speer: 7:43am On Dec 14, 2015
An essay titled Humility-------Copyright www.sphatik.com

The core message of this book can only be fulfilled when one strives to connect oneself to The Primordial Light, to God. This requires the soil of pure humility. The soul of the Indian can heartily relate to this statement, for it is the truest Dharma that we can follow. Our parents teach us to be humble, they warn us against pride.

But it is just humility which is hardly to be found today. Whether materialist or spiritualist, there is primarily only arrogance that prevails. I am not referring to arrogance before other human beings, rather I mean arrogance before The Primordial Light. The materialist of the present time, who is bound only to space and time in his thinking, can only recognise physical things. Therefore he presumes that only what he can see, touch or measure exists, and thereby closes himself off quite automatically to The Light. The spiritual person, on the other hand, who recognises that there are matters beyond time and space that he can perceive, sadly falls victim to a prevailing New Age belief that we are all God and that God is within us. This is the advaita or non-dualistic belief that is being rigorously spread in Vedanta. This is a distorted interpretation of the Oneness of All, which I have just explained in the previous essay. To see God in all beings is correct only when one strives to serve all beings. But it does not mean that God dwells in all beings. The spiritualist of today who believes in advaita, however, does not interpret it in this way.

This is not a belief of humility, even though its followers often appear to be humble persons and are often wonderful people at heart. But the belief itself is devoid of any humility before The Primordial Light, and that is my point here.
If you wish to connect with The Primordial Light in pure supplication, you need to understand the meaning of Humility. Humility before The Primordial Light means that you recognise yourself as a creature before God, that you are eternally dependent on The Light-Power from God. The Light is always above you, not in you. You are to look upwards to The Light. Upwards spiritually, of course, not in the sense of these terrestrial clouds or mountains.
Humility also means to not complain. This is one of the hardest things for mankind today. We love to complain when things do not go our way. I know that I love to complain when things do not go my way! And too much also. This is one of our global weaknesses, and sadly, it is killing us spiritually. It is another great source of our afflictions today and we have to work hard to overcome it. Whenever we complain about any affliction that comes our way, we are effectively declaring, “The Primordial Light has allowed something to happen to me which I do not deserve”.
And this cannot be, because The Primordial Light is Perfect, forever more, as stated by the Supreme Premise postulated earlier. The Primordial Light will not let anything happen to us which we do not deserve. Whenever we complain about our miseries and our affliction, we are questioning The Primordial Light’s Wisdom. If we wish to find our way to God and The Truth, we have to recognise and accept that whatever is happening today is the fruit of our own misdeeds, our own wrong volition, not that of The Light or of any other person. We have deserved what we have received, we have attracted to ourselves the current fate that we are going through. This is Humility before God… the true Dharma. It is to recognise God as Just and Perfect, also Loving.

This Humility shall be the basis of all our prayers to God. A prayer is no prayer without this vital ingredient called Humility. One can utter long phrases and sentences as prayers, but without Humility these prayers are empty. When we pray, we should have the inner attitude of praying before The Source of All Existence, that we are nothing before Him, that He is All. Words then become meaningless, but the attitude of Humility itself becomes the “Power-filled Prayer”.
It is important to note that Humility is not servility. Humility does have a sense of pride, but it is not a false pride, rather it is dignity. Having humility does not automatically make us servants of other human beings. We are not to thereby stoop to the level of servitude of others, that is not what I mean here. Rather I am referring to the inner attitude and volition that we have within ourselves and how we approach The Primordial Light for Healing and Blessing.

Moreover, humility does not mean to touch the feet of others. This is actually a wrong practice, for the act of touching another’s feet is a symbolic act of worship. Only The Feet of God are worthy of such an honour. A swami or guru who permits others to touch his feet places himself at the same level as God. Parents from orthodox families in India also encourage and sometimes demand this practice, thus placing themselves at the same level as God. But, I say unto you, even the highest Devas, Devis, Angels, etc., however you want to call them, will never ask for their feet to be touched. One cannot say that one sees God in a human being, and therefore one will touch the feet of that human being. It is a practice that the Indian has become accustomed to in his wrong interpretation of humility. It need not be.

We are all human beings and creatures on the path to Truth and Light. We shall help each other onwards to this Light. But our humility shall stand only before God, The Source of All Existence. Let humility before God be our daily bread in the recognition of us as mere tiny creatures in this masterpiece of Creation. This humility will connect us to The Light.
Re: Inquiry For Justcool And M_nwankwo And Other Adherents Of The Grail Message by Tobakunn: 8:25am On Dec 14, 2015
Thank you, Speer.


I have a question concerning Deja-vus. Can anyone shed more light on this inexplicable albeit commonplace occurrence?


Compliments of the season everyone.
Re: Inquiry For Justcool And M_nwankwo And Other Adherents Of The Grail Message by justcool(m): 7:27pm On Dec 14, 2015
@speer, Tubakun, and all.

I've been terribly busy, that's why I haven't been here for a while. Rest assured that I have seen your posts and I will definitely share my humble perceptions. I will probably be chanced next week, so expect my reply then.

Remain blessed.
Re: Inquiry For Justcool And M_nwankwo And Other Adherents Of The Grail Message by Speer: 7:13am On Dec 15, 2015
@Justcool,

eagerly awaiting your wisdom.


An Essay from www.sphatik.com

What is the World Judgment?

It was on the night of 14th June 2015 that I had a dream. The message of the dream was, “The Judgment shall rain down upon us as pebbles!” And when one watches the world events that are taking place the world around, one cannot help wonder - what is really going on? The increase in number of catastrophes, man-made or natural, cannot be denied any more. It is not that these catastrophes, like earthquakes, wars, avalanches, tsunamis, hurricanes, etc. have not occurred before or often. But there is a certain increase in the occurrence of these phenomena in the last one hundred or so years that cannot be attributed solely to the increase in human population, the advances in monitoring technology, etc. as the governments would have us believe. I will not go into all the statistics here; that is reserved for another time. I merely want to highlight that these occurrences are part of a greater karmaic cycle that is affecting all humanity and in fact the whole Universe.

The Earth, like many other planets has a strong magnetic field generated by its spin and its iron core. A magnetic field is not without effect and is connected with the magnetic fields of other planets. The relative motions of these also generate electric fields. This means that all the planets are like connecting points of an electric circuit. What happens on one planet affects others, even if the effects cannot be measured at present. The solar systems all have an effect on one another, and entire galaxies in our universe also have a similar effect on each other. In principle, everything is connected, there is nothing that is not part of this highly inter-connected mesh.

The Universe as a whole is going through a transformation in its spiritual development. A spiritual turning point has taken place and Light-Power has been sent into the Universe, rippling through every galaxy and solar system, to each individual planet and creatures dwelling upon it. The Earth is also standing under these showers of Light-Power. This has the effect of accelerating the cycles of Nature, bringing great upheavals and transformations. These are taking place not only on our planet, but on every other planet also. We only have the instruments to measure the changes on our planet, but even then we can only measure them at the coarsest level. There are many invisible changes also taking place on the Earth that we have no understanding of.

But we who dwell upon the Earth are directly affected by these Earth-Changes, as they are called, but which are really at a macro level “Universe-Changes” or “Creation-Changes”. We are affected, not because we have been randomly placed on this planet as part of this humanity, but because it lies in our Karma to be present at this time on the Earth and experience such tremendous changes. And most of the time the changes are destructive, as often takes places in these natural catastrophes, because the Karma we have formed for ourselves has not been of a good kind, bringing blessing to others and ourselves, but rather of a destructive kind, where we have only striven after material desires at the cost of all else - the welfare of our fellow human beings and our own spiritual growth.

These “Creation-Changes” are not taking place without a reason also. Humanity has actually been on this planet for millions of years. The “Fall of Man” has taken place here: The human being has only cultivated his intellect, and not his spirit or atma (which speaks through his intuition). Nearly all of humanity has made this mistake, and that is why today we are, for the most part, unable to sense anything of the finer invisible World of the Beyond. We have brought about only darkness on this planet, darkness that is accompanied by suffering, no real blessing. This has happened not just on our world, but in many other worlds as well where human beings with the “free will” dwell. The result has been that, through the aforementioned electric circuit, currents of darkness have been flowing through all the connecting points in the entire universe. The darkness is really everywhere in the Creation now, and the outcome is that the entire Creation becomes very “heavy” or “dense” spiritually according to “The Law of Spiritual Gravity”. It continues to sink down.
The result is that the Universe as a whole has fallen out of balance with Light-Harmony and no longer connects with The Primordial Light. We human beings are only here temporarily for our own spiritual development. We came here as spirit-seeds and are to return to our Spiritual World as developed human spirits. The normal process would be that every spirit-seed comes down here to develop and return home. This is a continuous cycle, much like the circulatory system of the human body. But, owing to the darkness in this Universe, we are held fast through our materialistic desires. This is our own volition. It binds us to “matter” and all that is material. The Universe as a whole no longer functions as the right soil for other spirit-seeds in need of development. The circulatory spiritual development is no longer taking place. The Universe is now like an over-ripe fruit that is ready to fall from the tree and disintegrate. Naturally, this disintegration does not occur overnight. These are cosmic cycles that are meant herewith. But each planet has its own spiritual cycle as well, which is part of this greater cycle. And each creature on each planet has its own spiritual or entitial (animistic) cycle of development.

To prevent the total disintegration of this “over-ripe” fruit, the “Light-Power” has been sent into the entire Creation. Like a large electric current, it charges up all the Cycles of Karma everywhere in the Universe, including the Karma of human beings here on the Earth. This results in the fact that within a very short period of time we have to experience the fruits of all our thoughts, words and deeds over the course of our development here on the Earth. Anything wrong we do results in something reciprocal that impacts only us. It can be a disease, an accident, a development at work, etc., but it now happens almost instantly, whereas in former times it would take hundreds of years and multiple births before we would experience the return of our Karma. So also with all the good things we may have done. These are all coming back at us far more quickly than ever before. The rapidity of such karmaic returns implies that within a short period of time many souls will be purified by this! And each planet, slowly but surely, will attain this purification and the balance will be restored towards Harmony! Hence, the reason for the increase in natural disasters!

Let us not think that this will be a “pleasant” journey into a purified world. There is also another danger here. There are many of us who absolutely refuse to change our ways for the better, in spite of this increased acceleration of our Karma. Even though the returns are so powerful and compelling, we do not wish to acknowledge them. Instead we prefer to continue in our old ways, refusing to open up our inherent spiritual sensing of the World of the Beyond. Such souls will find one another through “The Law of Attraction” which we have spoken about before.

Their “Collective Karma” will eventually overtake them, and they will no longer be able to return to the Earth in future births, as the Earth will have been purified in the near future. These souls will be forced to congregate on other worlds in the Invisible World of the Beyond where there is only darkness. These specific worlds will remain over-ripe and will also at some point no longer exist - because the worlds that they are forced to inhabit will disintegrate, and they will be drawn along into this disintegration. As their spirits are not yet fully developed, because they never took the opportunity to develop themselves spiritually, they will lose their consciousness and return to a primeval spirit-seed state. These are the “rejected” spirit-seeds that failed to become conscious.
This entire description illustrates real spiritual events occurring right now and cannot be overlooked. It encompasses both macro- and microcosmic changes. These are the same pictures that many sages, saints, sadhus, prophets, etc. were shown many thousands of years ago and warned us about. Those times were simpler, and those Blessed Persons did not have the language as we have it today to describe it in such terms. As a result they used terms like the “Last Judgment”, “Great Purification”, etc. to describe the events that are actually quite natural and spiritually scientific. They also all saw The Light-Power as a person whom they called by several names - “Kalki-Avatar”, “Saoshyant”, “Son of Man”, “Son of God”, “Mahdi”, etc.

But this is what “The Judgment” is actually about. It is a purifying and separating process that restores every world, inasmuch as there are Light-Seeking Souls dwelling thereupon, to Spiritual Harmony. Those worlds inhabited by pure darkness will disintegrate, so that they cannot negatively impact the rest of the “electric circuit” mentioned before. This happening takes place through an acceleration of all Karma by The Light-Power that has been sent into the Creation by The Primordial Light, by God, to bring all Creation back into a beautiful state of existence. Now we can relate to all the ancient spiritual prophecies about this, such as the Revelation of the Bible, the Srimad Bhagavatam of the Hindus, the Qur’an of the Muslims and various other texts which refer to the same event, on a deeper level. The religious dogma that is often associated with these religious books can fall away at last, and we can look at them as spiritually scientific works on the subject.

And now we have to look at the events taking place on the Earth in this light. The great climate change taking place now with global warming along with the potential for a great global cooling into a mini-ice age by 2030 (which was recently proposed by some scientists earlier this year) is one part of this massive Creation-Change occurring right now on our planet. Let us not turn a blind eye spiritually to such things, but let us awaken inwardly. We can go through these upcoming difficult changes and survive them only if we can open ourselves inwardly to The Primordial Light. That Light-Power, which has brought about these changes at such an accelerated rate, is the means by which we can connect ourselves to The Primordial Light of God and be sustained through these difficult times, both in spirit and here on the Earth.

In conclusion, I also want to say the following: it lies in our hands as to whether our Earth will fall into the darkness or be purified. The Primordial Light has given everything to us to ensure that we can save our planet from complete disintegration. The only way to do this is to remove all darkness from within ourselves, to no longer strive exclusively after material things, but after that Light-Power which God has given to the Earth - and to the whole Universe.

With my best wishes to all during these difficult times,
Sariputta
Re: Inquiry For Justcool And M_nwankwo And Other Adherents Of The Grail Message by Anna7: 9:18am On Dec 16, 2015
Hello just wanted to share the following for your information from the grailmessage.com website:


The Evolution of the Work
IN THE LIGHT OF TRUTH
The Grail Message

– Final Authorized Edition –


“This essay is intended as a support for readers of the work In the Light of Truth:
The Grail Message on a very specific issue. There is much in cyberspace as well
as in writings about this inestimable spiritual work. There are also now different
views and interpretations on many aspects of the work.

One such point of discussion concerns how the Grail Message was composed by the
author. This essay aims to provide a useful basis for a systematic individual introspection
on this question. Here, we mainly attempt to highlight key stages in the
evolution of the work. As a first step, any meaningful discussion should be based on
the facts of history, and not on suppositions.

This chronology has taken an important dimension because, in relatively recent
times, some have deemed it necessary to encourage debate about which of the
author’s writings should be accepted as his Message and which others should not.
Unfortunately, such efforts often constitute distractions. The earnest seeker needs all
the time at his or her disposal to concentrate on the more critical and urgent spiritual
matters addressed by the work itself.

The author of the Grail Message stated:

“Genuine faith lies only in conviction, and conviction comes solely
through an inflexible weighing and examining!”

An inflexible weighing can only be predicated on the solid foundation of facts, not
on conjectures, and not on emotions.

The author further warns that we must avoid using extraneous aids in the form of
the ready-made opinions of others. This means that every reader must hold him or
herself accountable for coming to an informed conclusion on all meaningful questions.

The following are therefore the important phases as the work In the Light of Truth:
The Grail Message evolved:

1. “Gralsblätter, Serie I” (“Grail Papers, Series I”)

Oscar Ernst Bernhardt began to write and deliver his lectures as early as 1920.
The first effort at coordinating these lectures into booklet form was in 1923.
Between 1923 and 1924, Herr Bernhardt published 7 booklets containing 43
lectures. These booklets are referred to as the Gralsblätter, Serie I (“Grail Papers, Series I”).

2. “In the Light of Truth: The New Grail Message” by Abdruschin (1926)

In 1926, Abd-ru-shin published his first full book of lectures: Im Lichte der
Wahrheit – Neue Gralsbotschaft, by Abdruschin. In English, the title translates
into “In the Light of Truth: The New Grail Message”.
This first version of the Grail Message contains 43 lectures.
This book was published only in the German language.
39 out of the 43 lectures which appeared in Gralsblätter, Serie I were included in
this first book version.
The following 4 lectures from Gralsblätter, Serie I were excluded:
Live!
The great mystery
Redemption
Before Abraham was, I Am

The author added 4 new lectures, retitled some, and also rearranged the sequence
of lectures in this 1926 version.

3. “Gralsblätter, Serie II” and “Der Ruf” (“The Call”)

Between 1926 and 1930, the author published 24 additional lectures as Gralsblätter,
Serie II. These lectures appeared in 3 booklets.
In 1927, the new periodical Der Ruf (“The Call”) was established.
14 lectures appeared in Der Ruf between August 1927 and June 1929. The
author also provided answers to questions asked through this forum.
In effect, a total of 38 lectures were published by the author between 1926 and
1930. These were all published in Gralsblätter, Serie II and Der Ruf.

4. “In the Light of Truth: Message from the Holy Grail” by Abdruschin (1931)

In 1931 Abd-ru-shin published the second version of the Grail Message. As
may be recalled, the title of the 1926 edition was In the Light of Truth: The New
Grail Message by Abdruschin.
The 1931 version was titled In the Light of Truth: Message from the Holy Grail by Abdruschin.
There were 91 lectures in the 1931 edition. The 1931 edition also included a
new epilogue as well as appendices.
The first of the appendices was the work The Ten Commandments of God and the
Lord’s Prayer. This title had previously been separately published as a booklet in 1929.
In addition, the author included the lecture Life as the last of the appendices.
The 91 lectures in the 1931 edition came from the following sources:
All the 43 lectures published in the 1926 book edition
3 lectures from Gralsblätter, Serie I which were not published in the 1926 edition
20 lectures from Gralsblätter, Serie II
3 new lectures which had been transposed from answers to questions published in Gralsblätter, Serie II
13 lectures from Der Ruf
8 new lectures
1 lecture from the 1929 booklet The Ten Commandments of God and The Lord’s Prayer
Therefore the author added new lectures, edited and retitled some, and he also rearranged
the sequence of lectures in this book.

5. “Nachklänge Zur Gralsbotschaft, Band I” von Abdruschin
(“Reverberations of the Grail Message, Volume I” by Abdruschin)

Abd-ru-shin continued to publish new lectures after the compilation of the
“large” edition of the Grail Message in 1931 (as did happen after the publication
of the first edition in1926).
Between 1931 and 1934, a total of 59 lectures were published. Each of these lectures
was numbered as in a series.
In 1934, Abd-ru-shin compiled these lectures into the book Nachklänge Zur Gralsbotschaft, Band I
(the approximate English translation is “Reverberations of the Grail Message, Volume I”).
Two new lectures not in the previously numbered series were included in this
new book. The lectures are Unsubstantiate and How the Message should be absorbed.
This work was published in the German language only. It was never published
in any other language.
As occurred in his previous books, Abd-ru-shin added new lectures, edited
and retitled some other lectures, and he also rearranged the sequence of many
of the lectures in this publication.

6. The last series of numbered lectures and lectures published in “Die
Stimme” (“The Voice”)

Between 1934 and 1937, 38 individual lectures were further published in a
numbered series by Abd-ru-shin. Many of these lectures were first produced as
duplicated copies. Later, Abd-ru-shin revised the lectures and published them
as individual lectures for sale. The lectures retained their individual serial
numbers in these revised versions.

After publishing Nachklänge Zur Gralsbotschaft, Band I in 1934, deteriorating
conditions in Europe prevented Abd-ru-shin from publishing any other books
right up to the time of his departure in December 1941.

In addition to the 38 numbered lectures, Abd-ru-shin published 10 other lectures
in the periodical Die Stimme.
Abd-ru-shin was detained in March 1938 and extradited to Germany, where he
resided until December 1941.

Abd-ru-shin’s family – Frau Maria Bernhardt, Herr Alexander Bernhardt,
Fräulein Irmingard Bernhardt, and Frau Elisabeth Vollmann – all lived with
him throughout this trying period, and they were with him when he departed
the earth in December 1941.

By any standard, Abd-ru-shin’s family lived closest to him throughout his sojourn
on earth, but especially during the last 4 years.
As a matter of recorded history, Abd-ru-shin was officially denied contact with
readers of his Grail Message by the Gestapo although we know that a few associates
were able to visit him under difficult conditions (he was under constant surveillance).

All members of the family affirm that Abd-ru-shin reorganized his work into
the 3 volumes which we now know as the “Final Authorized Edition”.

A few readers have raised questions regarding the Final Authorized Edition.
The arguments and suppositions proffered by this group are however based
on individual deductions. Those who make these contrary claims have no
communication from the author denying the Final Authorized Edition.

Finally, the following should again be noted:

The author excluded previously published lectures in the Final Authorized
Edition, just as he did in both the 1926 and the 1931 editions.
He edited and retitled lectures in the Final Authorized Edition, just as
occurred in both the 1926 as well as in the 1931 editions.

He rearranged and sequenced lectures differently in the Final Authorized
Edition, just as he did in the 1926 as well as in the 1931 editions.”

Unquote

So it is fact that Abd-ru-shin Himself prepared the printing draft of this Final Edition and instructions
for its publication and entrusted the same to his family members, which are presently available in
the Grail Administration office but one should not expect the person responsible there to make an
exhibition of the same, especially when these He prepared for Irmingard ONLY, who used to work
as His secretary.

If anyone still has doubt he should travel to the Mountain and meet there one elderly Crossbearer,
Mr Kargar who used to work in the Irmingard’s office and is still living on the Mountain. He will confirm all
the above facts and clarify all your doubts with documentary proofs.

As regards certain contradictions in the Message, I have already mentioned earlier that there is no contradictions
at all in the Grail Message but it can be some readers inability to understand certain descriptions in the Message.
Like in lecture 52 (I am resurrection ..) readers are not keeping in mind that the machinery of Creation is not made
of rigid iron but of living forms and beings,
who will never completely disintegrate earth if some pure and mature human spirits are living on it, but will pull it up
so that it passes above the funnel of disintegration and will purify it differently as we read in this lecture and
also know about it from the various prophesies about emerging and submerging of certain countries in future.

So I think we should not look for faults in others, much less in the family members of the Lord, but only in ourselves. And if someone goes to the extent of blaming Maria and Irmingard, then most probably he is not talking himself, this can come only from the Darkness.

With my very best wishes to all the readers of the Message and Very Happy Festival time.

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Re: Inquiry For Justcool And M_nwankwo And Other Adherents Of The Grail Message by Nobody: 11:18pm On Dec 19, 2015
Hello Seekers of the Truth,

I got a few questions and would like the perceptions of Justcool and Mnwankwo, and everyone who feels prompted to offer his sensing.

I'd like to know what happens to religious people (let's pentecostal or Muslims) after. I can recall Mnwankwo saying that some religious people will go to a place in the ethereal world where they will keep carrying out the religious activities they used to do on earth (casting out demons, preachins, etc.). Could someone please correct me if I'm wrong on elaborate on that.

thank you.

@ Justcool
I sent you a mail. I don't know if you got it.
Re: Inquiry For Justcool And M_nwankwo And Other Adherents Of The Grail Message by ChijiokeGodwin(m): 8:01pm On Dec 25, 2015
LoJ:
Hello Seekers of the Truth,
I got a few questions and would like the perceptions of Justcool and Mnwankwo, and everyone who feels prompted to offer his sensing.
I'd like to know what happens to religious people (let's pentecostal or Muslims) after. I can recall Mnwankwo saying that some religious people will go to a place in the ethereal world where they will keep carrying out the religious activities they used to do on earth (casting out demons, preachins, etc.). Could someone please correct me if I'm wrong on elaborate on that.
thank you.
@ Justcool
I sent you a mail. I don't know if you got it.

I will try and give my humble perception here, I sense that the above question does not originate from the desire to satisfy an intellectual curiosity.

Yes! Those people who like to shield their wicked deeds behind religious creed. Those who cling blindly to the religion of their parents and stubbornly closed their ears against the admonition to strive for conviction. And also those who, with degraded intellect, equate their ridiculous religious believe with God's wisdom, will all have to experience their first surprise after passing on.

They will see that the so called death is nothing more than discarding a worn-out garment, when they will realize that after passing on one can still see, hear and feel his surroundings. Hundredfold will be their pain at the realization of how deep they have fallen as a result of their false religious view.

Men who had perpetrated vile and wicked deeds in the name of holy religion, or for the furtherance of their own despicable, material ends will finally find themselves in the dark region after passing on. For example, a Muslim enthusiast who blows up himself with others, believing that in the beyond he will be rewarded with some numbers of virgins will finally awaken in a dark region homogeneous to his nature, being surrounded and attacked by the phantoms of his victims, he will also see other wicked souls like him, who had murdered themselves and others in a selfish religious battle. There, they will give full vent to their wicked desires until they become tired and see themselves as they truly are. Only then, can a way out be shown to them, it often take thousands of years.

What about the man who is to be called good or decent. The man who, though possessing good inclination still cling to false religious view due to his parental upbringing and habit. The man who is too lazy to put his religious believe system under closer scrutiny. What will happen to him when he will cross over? He will undoubtedly find himself in the land of twilight, will drag with him his religious tendency into that region, will also be attracted to the kindred souls who had indulged in meaningless religious practices while on earth.

There, in the land of twilight, one will find a great number of religious buildings erected by the thoughts of those on earth and those in the beyond who share the same tendency. Those poor souls will not hesitate to stagger into these church buildings and continue their prattling and murmuring as they used to do on earth, especially, as most of them will think that they are still living on earth because there is no much changes in them after the death of their physical body, that is, their ethereal body and their earthly body look alike, even the houses, the trees, the rivers in the beyond look the same as on earth. Another reason why some departed souls hardly believe they have left the earth is because of the frightful ordeal that orthodox religion teaches that one must go through after ‘death; the very conception of ‘judgment’ and ‘hell’ and ‘heaven’, an imaginary heaven populated by blissful hymn singing souls or a lake of fire called hell created to torture sinners. When the ignorant soul passes on with this false notion and sees that he is neither in heaven nor in hell not even any form of judgement sit, sees everything not much different from the earth, a guide will find it difficult to convince him that he has left the earth, or that he is the so called dead. With blind zeal, he will go along serving his religion as he did on earth.

Creeds, therefore, do not form any part of the lighter region in the beyond, but because people take with them all their characteristics into the beyond, the fervid adherents to any particular religious body will continue to practice their religion in the beyond until such time as their minds become spiritually enlightened.

Religiously speaking, the bigotry and prejudices are all there. They do no harm, except to themselves, since such matters are confined to themselves. There is no such thing as making converts in the beyond.

Once again, it should be borne in mind that not all religious people will go to the place in the beyond where they will continue practicing their religion. The weight of the evil minded souls will naturally drag them down to the dark region where there is suffering and pain.

If I have answered the above question, then I will say that a true seeker should reject all blind faith, because it can never be of any value to him. Only that which he himself enters into with his intuitive perception, thereby bringing it to personal experience within himself, will be useful to him in the maturing of his spirit.

Remain blessed.

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Re: Inquiry For Justcool And M_nwankwo And Other Adherents Of The Grail Message by Nobody: 12:01am On Dec 26, 2015
Hello my dear ChijiokeGodwin,

I have been edified by your post. It resonates within me as consistent with the Truth. However, I am but a simple seeker of the Truth, I don't know much. All the same, I'm grateful for your kind answer.

I wish you strength as your serve the LORD.
Re: Inquiry For Justcool And M_nwankwo And Other Adherents Of The Grail Message by ChijiokeGodwin(m): 8:03am On Dec 26, 2015
LoJ:
Hello my dear ChijiokeGodwin,
I have been edified by your post. It resonates within me as consistent with the Truth. However, I am but a simple seeker of the Truth, I don't know much. All the same, I'm grateful for your kind answer.
I wish you strength as your serve the LORD.

Thanks, I wish you strength too.
Re: Inquiry For Justcool And M_nwankwo And Other Adherents Of The Grail Message by Nobody: 9:55am On Dec 26, 2015
Thank you ChijiokeGodwin. Perhaps you might help me understand something else. I have already asked the question here, but since Justcool and Mnwankwo are no longer regular posters, no one has given me an explanation. I've been seeking for the Truth since the age of 18 when I had a "spiritual encounter". Today I am 26, but still seeking for the Truth. It has a been quite a Journey with ups and downs. I might share the story someday.

Anyway, I was "led" to Abdrushin 2 months ago. So I'm still reading it, trying to bestir myself to grasp it and experience it.

I'd like to know: By what Power/Authorities, some religious men perform such astonishing prophecies, miracles and healings? Excluding of course the fake miracles/prophecies, and the one that can be explained by suggestion, hypnosis, placebo, etc, I think there are still some muslim/christian/buddhist priests or pastor, religious figure that do perfom such extraordinary acts on a regular basis. What is your perception on this issue?

Thank you once again ChijiokeGodwin, and cheers.
Re: Inquiry For Justcool And M_nwankwo And Other Adherents Of The Grail Message by justcool(m): 7:34am On Dec 27, 2015
Compliments of the season my friends! I thank everybody who for waiting for my perceptions, and once again I apologize for being away so long. Like I already explained, I got very busy. I will share my perceptions on the issues raised one after the other, especially those that have not been answered. I will treat each post as they were raised; the first ones first.
Re: Inquiry For Justcool And M_nwankwo And Other Adherents Of The Grail Message by justcool(m): 7:42am On Dec 27, 2015
Tobakunn:
Greetings,

I want to share a peculiar experience I had as a young adolescent which has always confounded me with the hope that someone who possesses much greater knowledge than I will be able to clarify it for me or rather, share their perceptions with me.

As a young boy, I came across a man who was an Ifa priest (I don't know if you are aware of Ifa, its panegyrics and its priests, I hope you are but I can provide clarification where needed to the extent that I can). He struck me and we ended up having a sit-down. He proceeded to cast Ifa in the way they usually do it and told me certain specific things about myself, he also gave me some advice which have been valuable to my life and told me about occurrences/scenarios which concern me that haven't taken place yet and went on to provide more advice on how to act when these occurrences/scenarios finally happened; they involved regular activities and regular and some irregular people and personalities, they were situations which I would not have attached special importance to. And in time, they occurred exactly as he foretold and I acted accordingly.

Over the course of the years, I meet him from time to time and he provides more advice and prayers, also giving me pointers about living my life accordingly and aided in me discarding some filthy habits. He allows me to ask questions but they must not be superficial and must concern things involving my life in its entirety, he even selects questions to provide answers to and when he tells me something will happen, it always happens exactly as he told me. He also warns severely against depending on answers to all my life's problems from Ifa, he says there are some things to be learnt through mistakes and he always only advices, never compels in any way. He has even provided me with information concerning certain foods to avoid after which I noticed an improvement in my health after adhering to his advice.

My question now is how can someone with the aid of the diety known as Ifa foretell the future with relative accuracy?

I do not understand how and I have a feeling that I will meet him again soon, I just want to know what happens really during these our meetings.

If anyone has a perception on my experience which they wish to share, I will be grateful because I really do not understand it completely myself.

Thank you in advance.

Cc: Justcool.

Modified.

Since my reply is too long, I will break it into two posts; Part 1 and 2.

Part 1

Perhaps the gentle man you described is clairvoyant. There are clairvoyant people all over the world, across all cultures and religions. It really is not a product of spiritual maturity, as people of often erroneously think. There are clairvoyant people in all levels of development; even among people on the lowest stage of spiritual development.

It is my perception that clairvoyance has more to do with the cloaks (bodies—physical, astral ethereal etc.) than it has to do with the actual spirit. Based on the law of attraction of homogenous species, each species can only clearly perceive the same specie; i.e., the physical eyes can only clearly see physical things, while the ethereal eyes can only clearly see ethereal things, etc. There are people so constituted that their physical eyes can catch a glimpse of the astral plane sometimes. This does not violet the law of homogeneity since physical and astral still belong to the realm of gross matter, and hence are homogeneous to a certain degree. Physical belongs to coarsest gross matter while astral belong to medium gross matter. Also, there are people living on earth so constituted that they can, from time to time, see with their astral eyes. Some can, from time to time, see with their ethereal eyes and etc. Hence all clairvoyant people do not perceive from the same plane of the beyond.

Clairvoyance, if used correctly can be a blessing to the clairvoyant as well as her/his people. But when used wrongly or with ignorance, it wracks havoc on but the clairvoyant one and the people that employ her/his services. It must be emphasized that based on the law of attraction of homogenous species, each clairvoyant only perceives what is homogenous to him, or at best what is half a step above him in terms of maturity. Hence among people who are at the lowest step of spiritual development, people who can only perceive the physical, or people at the physical level, we find clairvoyants who can at best see the astral plane. Among those whose development has reached the ethereal level, we find clairvoyants who can, from time to time catch a glimpse of the section of the animistic sphere directly above the ethereal. This way, the clairvoyant, from descriptions of what he sees, prepares or familiarizes the people with their next step in the great journey of spiritual development. One can analogically say that clairvoyants are the eyes of their people, the people at the same level with him. Just as your eyes sees the road ahead of you and from what you see you can tell where you are on the road and decide which direction to proceed. A people whose clairvoyants only see base forms from the astral plane, should know that they are at a very low spiritual development and hence should strive towards purity. Sensitive ones (clairvoyants and women) among the people can be a gift to the people, since through these sensitive ones, the people can see how they fare spiritually. Some ancient’s cultures know this; hence they value, seclude and protect their women. They paid strict attention at their women, for the behavior of the woman is always a reflection of non-physical environment around her. Hence from the behavior of their women, a people could see where and how the entire people stand spiritually. Clairvoyants and women are like antennas, each antenna is turned to pick up certain signals, or each antenna pick up signals in the direction that it is facing; and like antennas, they should be kept well tuned(pure), well positioned and not left at the mercy alien vibrations.

This brings us to the problem with clairvoyance. It happened that over time some clairvoyants became rulers of their peoples due to their ability which the people fear. They stepped out of their necessary protection and entered the public stage where they were exposed to all kinds of influences. Hence even among the developed ones, the clairvoyant ones became coarse due to exposure to coarse and impure currents from foreigners, and hence could no longer perceive from the luminous realms. This is how mankind degraded and lost the art of pure divination or clairvoyance. Hence clairvoyance became useless to the spiritual development of the people. The same thing happened to women. Women who used to be mankind’s doors to luminous realms, by taking the ruling position, they now became exposed to so many impure currents which eventually dragged them down. This way mankind lost their connection to the luminous realms.

Another problem is that people sought to use these clairvoyants to gain insights to their very earthly problems. Earthly things that belong to the lowest level in creation, things that one should solve with one’s earthly perception are taken to the clairvoyants. This way, even clairvoyants that are able to see the luminous parts of the ethereal due to their spiritual development are forced to employ their gifts to look towards gross matter; this tantamount to dragging the clairvoyant down to the astral level. And over the course of this wrong use of clairvoyance, people started to depend on clairvoyants for all their problems. This forfeits the purpose of life on earth; over time people buried their ability to decide or make decisions. Abilities, which if fully exercised helps in spiritual development are thus neglected and the resultant was a spiritual halt which is inevitably always followed by decline as there is no standstill in creation.

Another danger that arouse out of man’s misunderstanding of phenomena like clairvoyance, clairaudience, telepathy, etc. was that many people started to learn how to acquire such abilities in the delusion that acquiring them is tantamount to spiritual development. Occult schools, movements, societies, and even churches were set up teaching people through artificial means(chanting, meditation, incantations, fasting, use of herbs, ect), how to become clairvoyant, clairaudient, telepathic, prophetic etc. Rather than striving towards spiritual development which manifests in simple truthfulness and love for all creatures, people strove towards acquiring clairvoyance etc, abilities that do not denote to inner development. Hence the resultant is that today we have the occult masters, grand masters, prophets, seers etc. And what is achieved through artificial training can never compare with what one acquired naturally or as a result of inner development. Hence all these so called grandmasters at their best are able to penetrate the astral plane or medium gross matter; their penetrating into the luminous realms is totally out of question. To prerequisite to penetrate the luminous realms is naturalness, purity, and humility; qualities that the so called grand masters do not posses.

As to how it works, it is quite simple. You already know that the physical is a coarse reflection of the astral plane. Everything that manifests physically is first fashioned in the astral plane. Hence, even our thoughts, situations and events on earth, fate etc. are all reflections or precipitations of life in our astral environments. Hence one who could see the astral plane can see these events before they happen on earth. Everything we do, which based on the law of reciprocal action eventually returns to us, takes on form in the non-physical planes. Our words take on form in the planes of medium gross matter, our thoughts in fine gross matter; all these things run their courses and finally precipitate into the physical. Hence the evolution of everything lies in the beyond; what we see or encounter on earth is only the outer manifestation of the reality or fate we created for ourselves which has taken on form in the beyond. Hence one, who can see the beyond, can see your fate before it happens on earth. However the seer or clairvoyant can only be correct to a certain extent; for the condition of the soul at the time of manifestation says a lot in the nature of manifestation. Hence after seeing what lies in wait in the astral plane for an individual, the individual may change his ways and hence cut or weaken the link that connects him to the things foreseen which then will fail to manifest in the manner predicted.

I will give an example: A man goes to a seer; the seer sees his astral environment and sees beautiful things in store for this person. These are only the forms of the good deeds the man did in the past, waiting to return to him in due season. The seer tells the man that there a good future ahead for him. The individual on hearing this, erroneous thinks that it is written in stone, he becomes lazy, careless and even bad. Thus he changes his radiation from good to evil and as a consequence, the cord linking him to the good things the seer saw weakens to the extent that these good things could no longer manifest in his environment. Hence, rather than succeeding, he fails and blames it on the seer, calling him a liar. The reverse is also possible: A bad person, who has so many evil forms attached to him and waiting to materialize in due time, goes to a seer. The seer sees the evil future that this man has created for himself, and he tells the man that he is going to face a lot of tragedies in the future. This man repents and strives towards purity; this purity creates a ring of light around him, giving him a protective atmosphere. The change in the man which now makes him inhomogeneous to the spheres of darkness where evil awaited him; this weakens his connection to the evil fate. The resultant effect of this weakened connection and the protection around him greatly weakens or mitigates the karma to the extent that the karma that would have caused him a painful death now in returning only makes him sick for a few days. He passes through without any serious harm. Hence, one who knows the laws of creation knows that the most important thing for anybody to do, irrespective of the individuals past, is to repent and strive towards purity; indeed all problems have only one solution—living in accordance to the Will of God.

Another problem that can arise from dependency to seers, clairvoyants, astrologers, prophets, and indeed all types of future diviners is that they install unnecessary fear in people. Fear belongs to the realm of darkness, and hence all servants of God should stay away from fear. An individual who has repented and has achieved a certain degree of purity around him, once he gives in to fear, this fear would dim the purity around him, making him accessible to currents of darkness; currents which he would have avoided had he never given in to fear. Even an individual, who has no karma in store, can darken his environment (aura) with fear; and based on the law of attraction of homogenous species, this fear will attract darkness to him which will then also eventually materialize physically. Example: A man, who otherwise would not be deeply impacted adversely by karma, goes to a future diviner; the diviner tells him that accidental death is in store for him. He becomes terribly afraid. This fears breaks down his natural psychic defense, attracting that which he fears to him. He ends up having an accident and dying. This is a person who otherwise would not have met such fate.

To be continued.

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Re: Inquiry For Justcool And M_nwankwo And Other Adherents Of The Grail Message by justcool(m): 7:42am On Dec 27, 2015
Part 2.

Like I explained above, every clairvoyant sees only environment homogenous to his development; a clairvoyant at a very low level of spiritual development only sees a step above the physical; hence his visions and interpretations he gives them still belong to the lowest level of existence. It happens that out of ignorance, some people have gone to diviners who actually rank lower than them spiritually, and by following the diviner’s advice these people get degraded down to the level of the diviner, while all the while thinking that he is benefiting. And today, you cannot tell a diviner's or any body’s level of spiritual maturity based on race, culture, tribe or nationality as it was in the past eras. Among all peoples today there are people who have attained some spiritual development and those who are still at the lowest level. Hence among one tribe, you may find a diviner at the lowest stage of development and another at the second stage. One can easily understand that a diviner ranking lower than you spiritually cannot really offer you anything that will help you advance spiritually further; but he can easily drag you down. And those at the lower stages of spiritual development often appear to be the helpful ones, their predictions of often comes true because they are at the same physical level where these things appear; they see it when it is almost about to condense physically. They can see the low astral planes very well; hence they can see earthly things right before they happen, at the point where possibility of change no longer exsist. They can often predict your future financial, work, and earthly circumstances because these things are at the same level with them. However all these belong to the lowest level and does not offer you any spiritual benefits. To further illustrate this point, I will paint two pictures for your consideration.

Two students, Student ‘A’ and student ‘Z’, after graduating from university as engineers, decided to visit two diviners to help them decide on which state to settle in; whether they should go to California or New York. Diviner 1, whose view point is directly above the earth, but still within the earth’s atmosphere; hence, he can clearly see from the atmosphere that in California there are lots of companies looking for graduates, also sees that the companies in will be hiring engineers in two months’ time. He also sees that there is only one company in New York, a company that does not pay as much as any of the companies in California. So he advises the graduates to head to California and settle, that on getting to California they will definitely find good jobs in two months’ time. Diviner 2, whose view point is far above the earthly atmospheres; his view is so high that he can observe the resolution of the earth around the sun, he can clearly observe the path of the earth; and from his view point he notices that earth is headed to collide with another planet in a years’ time. So he tells the two graduates, there is no point in going to California or New York, stay where you are and buy a ticket and catch the next rocket out of the earth. Let us assume that there are rockets that take people to mars and tickets for such rockets can neither be brought in California nor New York. So he tells them to go to mars and settle, and not to settle on earth at all. Student ‘A’ heeds his advice and relocates to mars, while student ‘Z’, following the advice of Diviner 1, headed to California and settled; on getting there, in two months he found the companies hiring, he applied and got a good job. A year later, he is a manger in a big engineering company in California, he is making huge money and has decided to stay in California for good; in fact he will never leave California. While student A was toiling and moiling in Mars barely making a living. On learning about their situations, they both decided that Diviner 2 was a false seer, and they both praised Diviner 1, calling him a genuine seer since everything he said about California was true. Then two years later, Student A, while alive and healthy in mars learns that the earth has collided with another planet and exploded, only then does he fall on his knees and thank the creator for Diviner 2.

The point of the above illustration is that each seer sees from a different level corresponding too their different levels of inner development. Sometimes the predictions of those that are very close to the physical realm appear to be truer and more correct; while those from a higher point of vision appear vague and unfulfilling. However in the end only those of the highest perspective will have the lasting and eternal spiritual benefit. The seer or clairvoyant closer to the earth, his timing appears more correct because he is seeing from a perspective not far above the earthly concept of space ad time. To the one seeing from a higher perspective, it is harder for him to accurately tell the earthly time the events will manifest because he is standing at a perspective far above the earthly concept of time and space. Like I said, however, in the end, only the one that sees from the higher perspective can give you an advice that will be of spiritual benefit. To bring this illustration closer home, let’s paint another picture.

A man, Peter, and his brother James are contemplating on which direction to follow. They are contemplating whether to settle down and marry or remain bachelors and concentrate on their carriers. They both happen to know a girl, Hanna, whom Peter is contemplating on marrying. So they go to a seer, a poplar clairvoyant. The clairvoyant although blind to their spiritual conditions, clearly sees their astral environments; he sees their thoughts, he can also see that Hanna won’t mind getting married to either of them. The clairvoyant tells them that Hanna will make a good wife, and in fact in a few years she will inherit great wealth which will elevate her husband to the status of a King. Overjoyed, they rush home to start making plans for the marriage. They decide that the next day Peter will go and propose to Hanna. But on their way they meet Jesus, and perceiving He is a called one, they decide to seek His opinion too. Jesus, from His Divine perspective can see that these two men are still spiritually alive but not very strong spiritually. He can see their inner flames flickering amid the darkness of the earth; He knows that as soon as they settle into lives of marriage, the comfort and temptation that will come along with the marriage will lull them into spiritual sleep, culminating in them losing their souls. He sees that the only path for them tread in order not to lose their souls is the path of righteousness; He sees that based on their spiritual condition, if they tread the path of righteousness by being his follows, they stand the chance of returning to Paradise. Out of love and consideration for their spiritual development, Jesus tells them to forget about the marriage and follow Him. Peter, prompted by intuition heeds Jesus, he forsakes his planes and becomes a disciple of Jesus; while James heeds the seer and goes ahead and marries Hanna. Everything the seer predicted comes true. Many years later James who is now a rich king visits Rome with his wife Hanna. They see a group of Roman soldiers matching a condemned man towards the place of crucifixion. The man cries as soldiers flog him, on reaching the crucifixion grounds, the soldier crucify the man on a cross. James asks one of the soldiers what crime the condemned man committed to deserve such punishment, and they tell him that the man, who is an ardent follower of Jesus, has been going around spreading the message of Jesus, a message that is banned in Rome. From the crowd, James catches a glimpse of the man on dying on the cross, it was Peter! At this point James falls on his knees, thanking God for the true seer who advised them to marry Hannah; while cursing the “false Jesus” who promised Peter eternal life. Only many years later, when he passes on into the great beyond does he realize that over the course of him being a king on earth, he had perpetuated so much injustice that his soul is now bound to hell; and indeed he will not be able to free himself till all matter goes into desolation; hence he is bound to lose his soul after suffering unimaginable torments in hell. The pleasure of having being a king on earth now appears so insignificant; now he would rather live on earth again as a pauper to avoid the torment he is facing. Peter on the other hand, stands before the golden gate of paradise; at the first sight of this gate, even before it opens, immeasurable joy descends into his heart; his heart almost burst with joy. Now, every suffering he went through on earth while following the truth now seemed so insignificant; indeed now, he would gladly go through a million more crucifixion just for the sight of this sublime gate. But now the love of God will not allow him to descend into matter again. The inner glow resulting from the Joy is so great that burns his last animistic cloak; freeing an indescribably free, happy and bright spirit to enter into the Gate that opens for him.

I have avoided telling you whether to continue seeing the Diviner or not; rather I have shown the mechanism that guides those phenomena, and also the resulting consequences. It is now your choice whether to continue or not. The choice is yours.

Thanks and remain blessed.

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Re: Inquiry For Justcool And M_nwankwo And Other Adherents Of The Grail Message by Nobody: 9:33am On Dec 27, 2015
Justcool, it's just beautiful, what you just wrote!!!

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Re: Inquiry For Justcool And M_nwankwo And Other Adherents Of The Grail Message by Tobakunn: 12:21pm On Dec 27, 2015
@Justcool, it's really great to see a post from you and I am quite happy that you are back. I just decided to check the thread this afternoon and I saw a reply from you, this made me joyous within myself. Thank you and welcome back.

Thank you for your well thought and comprehensive reply. During the course of time that passed after posting that question, I have been allowed to go through some experiences that led me to certain recognitions. As such, I have come to conclusions that have influenced my decisions.

Thank you for the detailed explanation on the process of clairvoyance, it supported and improved the knowledge that I had come to recognise myself.

Gratitude sir for your assistance. I anticipate eagerly your reply on the second question.

Compliments of the season!
Re: Inquiry For Justcool And M_nwankwo And Other Adherents Of The Grail Message by justcool(m): 12:31pm On Dec 28, 2015
Speer:
@Justcool,
Hello and Salut,
Had please wanted to ask about the mission of the Son of God.
How was the knowledge of and the message of his mission disseminated through the ethereal planes of our planet (in Ephesus)----both at His time and after his departure from the earth..............and ever since?

It would be erroneous to think that the mission or message of Jesus is limited to the audible words He spoke on earth. Looking from the earth or from the physical perspective, one views the message as being basically disseminated by hearers of the message carrying it abroad and spreading it by word of the mouth, and by writing. This is why soon, on earth, errors creep into the message due to the spreaders deficient memory, lack of understanding of the message, delusion of improvement, or willful introduction of error.

However there is a different dimension of Divine messages that people often fail to consider. The message is actually Divine; hence it is not only alive but a part of Life itself! You already know that when a man speaks on earth, the intention or spiritual motive that prompted him to speak takes on a living form in the ethereal realm; since this intention issued from spiritual activity, the resulting ethereal form can be linked the spiritual sphere. The thoughts that preceded the speaking also takes on form in the planes of fine gross matter; while the worlds take on forms in medium gross matter. This way, a man on earth, is able to send his influence in all the planes of matter and all the way to the spiritual realm from where he draws spiritual energy. All these you already know. The process is the same, but far more richer and deeper in the case of Jesus.

The words that Jesus spoke, His message, were prompted from His Divine intuition, His Divine unsubstantiate core, and hence they receive their power directly from God. They took on form also in all the planes of matter, above matter, spiritual planes and reaching up to God the Father Himself. By speaking, He anchored his volition in the planes of medium gross matter; His thinking anchored His volition in the fine gross matter, His motives in the ethereal matter, etc. This process goes on till it reaches into the Divine, since he carries a part of each sphere on Him as a cloak. I.e., His gross material bodies or cloaks, through His acting, speaking, and thinking, anchored His volition(His message) in all the planes of gross matter; by the means of His ethereal body, His volition was anchored in the ethereal planes; by the means of His animistic bodies, His volition is anchored in the animistic planes, and by the means of His spiritual bodies in the spiritual planes, etc. This process goes on till it reaches into God the Father Himself, from whence Jesus drew His energy. His words and actions that we heard and saw on earth can be viewed as the physical anchorage of the same volition that is also simultaneously anchored in all planes of creation. Hence, when mankind distorts the words while spreading it, this does not mean that the actual message has been distorted. Indeed one can come in contact with the message of Christ even without ever physically hearing it or reading it from any book.

Indeed in the ethereal plane, the influence of the message is much more than on earth. There it needs no human being for it to be spread. It took on from there, the most powerful form since it is connected or linked to God the father Himself, like I already explained. This form is so powerful and radiates enormous light! The penetrating influence of this Light is unimaginable to the Human spirit. Hence it was able to radiate into all parts of the beyond, including the planes hitherto filled with darkness; It was able to penetrate and drive away darkness, freeing the universe from a course that would otherwise have drove it prematurely into the funnel of disintegration. It surrounded every soul in the ethereal realm, indeed every soul in creation, demanding to be admitted; it knocked on the door of every soul, demanding admittance. And indeed any soul that opened its door, even a little, gets flooded with Light. However, despite its brightness and power of penetration, it will not go against the laws of God which granted human spirits freewill as integral part of them. Hence it has to respect the freewill of man. It can only knock at the door of the soul; the actual opening of the door had to be done by the soul itself.

This anchored volition remains even after Jesus had retuned back to His home. It will remain forever because it is eternally connected to God the father. You can imagine it as a light or freeway leading from all planes of creation to God the father. Hence “Nobody comes to the father except through me.” For a better understanding, one in his mind can substitute the “through me,” with “through living my message” or “through living according to my message.” For Jesus and His message are inseparable.

Ignorance to the actual nature of Divine messages is the reason why the missionaries and Jihadist made so many mistakes in the manner they “spread the message.” The actual message is not limited to the words spread to us through vocal transmission or writing. The message is! It is part of life that has taken on form in creation. This is applicable with the Grail message which is one with the message of Christ and which is Life, and Truth. It is not limited to the book which mankind can distort, quibble and quarrel about; the actual message cannot be distorted! Not even the strongest Divine being can approach it with evil intention without being incinerated immediately. With this knowledge, one realizes that an individual can read the Grail message and learn everything in the book with his intellect without ever having come in contact with the actual message itself! Likewise, an individual may open his soul to the Grail message without knowing it physically or intellectually, without having read the book; he may start trading the path of the message, without having recognized it on earth. Although the culmination will finally bring him in contact with the actual message and the recognition of it; this can happen either here on earth through the book or later in the beyond. Hence when the missionaries took the physical message to foreign lands, they were erroneous to think that the “primitive foreigners” have never met Christ; i.e. come in contact spiritually with the living message. If they knew this, they would not have made the message a religion; neither would they have converted foreigners to their religions. They simply would have recognized the effect the power of Christ had already made on some of the people and encouraged and strengthened it without converting them to foreign religions. It happened that while the man-made foreign white bishops stood before the “primitive Africans” teaching them the gospel; a few of the so called primitive ones, who despite having never read the bible or heard of Jesus, were already better followers of Christ than the so called priests and bishops.

If you can look at the entire earth during the time Christ came, you will notice there was an upsurge of spirituality or spiritual activity among all peoples, even those in remote places where Christ had never physically set on. The radiation of His message penetrated the entire planet, strengthening the good and driving away darkness. The Grail message did the same and its effect can easily be observed. You only need to look into any field of human endeavor; you will discover an upsurge during the twentieth century. Look at technology for example and observe the giant stride it made during the twentieth century. The Twentieth century marks the entrance of the Grail Message into creation. With Life (or Power of God) comes pressure, it is this pressure which sets everything in motion that we call energy. Whatever it touches is forcibly driving to fruition. Hence men who work with their intellect are able to achieve great intellectual feats resulting from the increased energy they received; hence the technology of this era. Those inclined towards spirituality are also able to remarkable progress in a short while due to this energy. This culmination will result in the destruction of many and the also the salvation of the good; this is the Judgment so much talked about.

The radiation of the Grail Message still seizes our universe. Whatever it touches is set in motion, including human beings. The individual is set on fire, either to be burn to death or be purified by the fire. Hence the confusion, madness and weird behavior we see today on earth. Those whose inner lights have not been completely extinguished, their inner lights will unite with this power and glow even brighter. Many became seekers; Hence the increase in churches and religious movements. Many will go from church to church seeking fervently, these have already come in contact with the power, and the culmination of this seeking arrives when the individual comes consciously in contact with the Grail message. Then the individual will also be faced with the declaration; “I am He!” However, this culmination need not happen on earth, it can happen in the beyond. The fate of every human spirit lies in his response or attitude to this declaration which marks the period the individual can start his ascent or enter the millennium. The first time mankind encountered “I am He” was from Jesus, when they questioned Him in the garden. But then they were not spiritually matured enough for accent for after He spoke those words they arrested Him and crucified Him; signifying their rejection of the son(word) of God. Now in the end, at the culmination of their seeking, they must encounter “I am He” again in the message of the son of man. This time those that will accept Him as the son(word) of God will begin their accent.

I know I digressed a little; now getting back to your questions and summing up what I wrote. The spread of the Divine messages does not really require human beings and their religions. The message is Life and has taken on form in the beyond. Life radiates, surrounding every soul and speeding up every process. Those that open their souls to it or in souls where it finds homogeneity, it strengthens. The soul begins to seek which at the same time brings its purification; the culmination is coming in contact with the actual message and finally confronting the “I am He!” This coming in contact with the actual message can happen here on earth or in the beyond. This coming in contact with the actual message is not always the same as having a copy of the Grail message or the message of Christ; it entails not only recognizing it but making it an inseparable part of your life. Many have it only on their book shelves, and many read it every day without having come in contact with it.

Hence when a seeker approaches a cross bearer with questions about the Life or the message, the cross bearer must not think that he is introducing the seeker to the Grail message. The seeker may already have made contact with the message spiritually but only seeking to fathom it with his conscious brain also. The cross bearer should not instigate the seeker to join any movement or church, but in all simplicity answer his questions and be exemplary in his character. This way he strengthens that which is already brewing in the seekers soul and allow it to have its way. This is exactly what the missionaries and Jihadists should have done.

To spread the message of the Lord in a manner corresponding to the will of God, you need not even say a word to your neighbor. You need not go from door to door begging people to accept the word, such will be belittling the message. By living the message and drawing from it, you are flooding your environment with light, which will then penetrate and knock on the doors of the other souls. Soon some of these souls, those that have made some contact, will begin to stir and approach you or other servants of God with questions.

Speer:
Given that His mission was undertaken in somewhat of a haste, I presume that perhaps not much or enough prep work was possible in the ethereal planes before His arrival.................and I cannot perceive what happened after His departure from the Earth.
Gracias and have a light week.............

Many souls in the ethereal planes, on perceiving the tiding of the coming of the savior, petitioned to be allowed to help in the mission. Many were granted, those who thereby would be helped to ascend. Many were allowed to help by incarnating on earth, others were able to help from the beyond, without needing to incarnate on the earth.
Like I said, after his departure, His message which has already been anchored in creation still is. Many still find their ways back to their home at the eternal feet of God the father, through His message which will forever be. The message, which has taken on form in the beyond, is sustained by the power of God; even if the entire mankind rejects it or fights against it, it will still remain undiminished, for it is Life.

Thanks and remain blessed.

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Re: Inquiry For Justcool And M_nwankwo And Other Adherents Of The Grail Message by Speer: 12:03am On Jan 01, 2016
Thank you Justcool.

Had oft wondered how the Sons of God, given their Divine core, would be creating forms in the lower planes (spiritual and ethereal in particular). This you have explained.
Also, I would take it that the power-centers of the Form-of-the-Word so formed by Jesus (due to His presence) in the spiritual and ethereal planes will be at the highest respective plane-levels given the purity of its formation via the Divine-core envoy. From such topmost planes (of the Primordial Spiritual, Spiritual and ethereal) would it be attracted towards those spirits in lower planes (ethereal) who begin to become to consciousness in the right manner (enabling them to "draw" as such).

Last inquiry of 2015!!!

What was the purpose/aim of the first incarnation or journey of Parsifal in Creation wherein He came to the Earth..........and had His mission cut short unfortunately. Was it to provide a Light anchorage at the start of a cycle in Creation as a whole or just the earth planet in Ephesus in particular? Why did the earthly community he established not last very long after His untimely departure?
Was it related to the enslaved nation of Israel in Egypt and their physical emancipation and the more important (& related) simultaneous start of their spiritual mission on earth as a people?.........................

Cannot thank you enough and mention in words how you have aided in my growth these last three years. You have been extremely generous of your time and knowledge................and the examples you dey give for ur xplanation dey help man-pikin coconut grasp matter.

Peace, Blessings and Growth in all its facets to you and your family.

Once again, very very mush appreciated x 1000000000000000000000000000000.................................
Re: Inquiry For Justcool And M_nwankwo And Other Adherents Of The Grail Message by justcool(m): 12:37am On Jan 01, 2016
Tobakunn:
Thank you, Speer.
I have a question concerning Deja-vus. Can anyone shed more light on this inexplicable albeit commonplace occurrence?
Compliments of the season everyone.

Deja-vus result from memory or recollection of events already experienced.

It is the mutual radiation of all cloaks(bodies) that keep our physical body and soul together. During sleep the radiation of the physical body reduces or changes in a manner that it allows the soul to move away from the physical body and continue experiencing in the beyond. During such detachment, the silver cord, which connects the physical body to the soul, is still very intact; through this cord, impressions from the soul are transmitted to the physical body(brain). Some of the things we call dreams are actually experiencing of the beyond during sleep. The over-activity of the frontal brain often interferes, making the dream appear vague and unreal. But not all dreams result from such experiencing; some dreams, lets call them regular dreams, are just a result of frontal brain recuperating after the strenuous activity of the day. Since the frontal brain never really stops or ceases its activities, during sleep or during its recuperating period, it still functions; the results of these functioning or activity of the frontal brain during sleep is what we call dream, regular dreams.

Now back to the dreams that result from experiencing of the beyond. It happens that due to the over-activity of the frontal brain, sometimes the impressions from the experiencing of the beyond during sleep are not able to penetrate the frontal brain, retained in it, or consciously recalled from it. Hence when the individual wakes up, he will not be able to consciously recollect the experiences he had in the beyond while his body slept. But everything experienced is retained in the spirit.

Like I explained in my earlier post, the physical plane is coarser, denser or an unpolished reflection of the astral plane. Everything that we have on earth exists also in the astral plane where it is first fashioned. Our thoughts, words, and actions, even our fate, etc., all take on forms in the respective planes of the beyond and must precipitate also on the astral plane before appearing on earth. Everything that happens on earth must first happen in the astral plane before they are reflected into the earth. It happens that sometimes, while the physical body sleeps, the soul separates from it and experiences in the astral plane, things that are yet to be reflected or happen in the physical. This is a natural occurrence; and as with all that stems from the Will of God, in it we see the love of God, in that it prepares man for the future, so that man is not caught up in surprises, especially regarding very important things.
Due to the interference of the over-wrought frontal, on waking the individual fails to consciously recollect what he had experienced or seen in the beyond. When he encounters it on earth, this jumps or jolts his memory to the consciousness that he has seen or experienced that before. in other words, the jolt awakens him to the memory that is stored in his spirit; he remembers that he had seen or experienced that event before, albeit in the beyond or astral plane. This is Deja-vu.

I hope this explanation helps.

Thanks and remain blessed.

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Re: Inquiry For Justcool And M_nwankwo And Other Adherents Of The Grail Message by Tobakunn: 1:39am On Jan 01, 2016
@Justcool! Your explanations ehn! Thank you, for taking out time to assist us with these explanations. You have helped me in ways that can't be completely expressed in words and THANK YOU is all I can say.

Happy New Year to you and to all the visitors of this thread!

I pray that the peace and blessings of our Lord be with us this year, may we be granted the Grace to be human beings in the way our Creator wants. Amen.

Happy New Year!
Re: Inquiry For Justcool And M_nwankwo And Other Adherents Of The Grail Message by Speer: 8:57pm On Jan 01, 2016
Write-up from www.sphatik.com


The Equal Armed Cross

Symbolism is deeply rooted in the heart of the Indian! The symbols of his religions, both ancient and modern, are an intrinsic part of his culture. He cannot do without them, no matter how hard he tries to escape them. The longing for the symbols, to which he has been so accustomed, follows him wherever he journeys around the world, giving him the inner connection with life that he needs.

It is not without reason that the human spirit desires, or even needs, symbolism in some form or the other. It is a fundamental part of the human spirit! From the animist to the believer in the so-called ``higher faiths'', symbolism can be found everywhere. Even among the monotheistic faiths, which uphold the belief that it is wrong to have idols or symbols of any kind, one will unfailingly find traces of symbolism.

Every religion or culture has its own unique symbols. These symbols reflect a particular aspect of the spiritual nature of the group that adheres to them. Each symbol is a definite mark of the people who hold onto that symbol, who treasure it and revere it. It can help them on their path upwards to the Light, if its meaning swings in the Laws of Creation and if they understand its meaning. On the other hand, it can weigh them down if its meaning does not swing harmoniously in the Laws. There are also many ways of interpreting these symbols depending on one's chosen outlook, but only through considering their effects according to the Eternal Laws is it possible to tell whether the symbols have an upbuilding or a debasing effect on the spirit. To do this requires the awakening of the intuitive perception within the human being.

The teachings of all the existing religions have at one time or the other come into being only through the Holy Laws of Creation, which constitute the Will of God. Each teaching was precisely formed to correspond with the level of spiritual maturity of the people to whom it was given. The Eternal Laws could not permit anything else, because in order for a teaching to uplift the people, it must come close to their level of inner development and yet be sufficiently elevated in order to help them advance a step further. The Law of Attraction of Homogeneous Species necessitates this.

Every teaching that has emerged in the past, however, forms nothing more than a mere bridge to the Living Truth itself. Each teaching of itself cannot claim to be the complete Truth, as is clearly demonstrated today when we see how only apart-knowledge of Creation can be gained from the ancient sacred texts given to mankind. A complete Knowledge is still lacking, because mankind did not build upon the teachings in any other way except to distort them and introduce false doctrines into the picture. Even the great Vedic philosophy, with its wise teachings of karma, is sadly not exempt from it. Nevertheless the new Knowledge of Creation brings the longed-for clarification of all spiritual questions and completes the picture of Creation, because it is the ultimate Teaching to which the teachings of all former world-religions were merely bridges.

In a similar manner, the symbols of a particular teaching or faith have also formed in close association with the nature of that teaching. That is to say, the central points of each teaching are anchored in the various symbols that have been chosen to represent it. But since the teaching was originally adapted to the level of spiritual development of its adherents at the time, one can perhaps infer that thevarious symbols themselves are an indication of their degree of spiritual development!
If these teachings are all mere bridges to the mysterious and seemingly unattainable Eternal Truth, which therefore should have led to this Truth, we can probably assume that the symbols of these teachings also form bridges to that Eternal and Perfect Symbol of the Living Truth.
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For thousands of years, the Equal-Armed Cross has been known and accepted as the symbol of the complete Truth. The Celts had recognised it, and so did those who concerned themselves with the various Grail legends. In India, too, there was a time in her history when the Cross was known, but unfortunately this period is closed to us today, and we can no longer draw from that time in order to confirm this for ourselves.
The Equal-Armed Cross of the Truth - also known as the Grail Cross - is not synonymous with the Cross of Suffering of Jesus Christ. Christians believe that this Cross of Suffering is the Cross of Truth and Redemption. But the Truth Itself does not declare that man should suffer! All suffering is due to the faults of man and are the outworking of the Law of Karma. Our Creator does not want us to suffer! Therefore the Cross on which Jesus was ruthlessly and mercilessly killed is not the Cross of Redemption.

This will be difficult for many Christians to accept, as the core doctrine of Christianity is that Christ brought Salvation to mankind only through and within His Death on the Cross. Because this was made the main doctrine, the Cross of Suffering eventually had to become the symbol of Christianity. This is one example of how a symbol can emerge that does not swing in the Laws of Creation, although it is very clear from the various biblical accounts that Christ did not teach about Salvation through His death, either explicitly or implicitly.
However, the Cross of Truth is completely different from the Christian Cross! In the first place, the Cross of Truth represents perfect balance. The vertical beam represents the activity of the masculine in Creation, while the horizontal beam reflects that of the feminine. And the circle which circumscribes the Cross represents the whole of Creation, i.e. the Circle of Creation. This is the Living Grail Cross!

This perfect activity is fundamental for the mutual upbuilding in Creation! Thus the vertical beam cannot be bigger than the horizontal or vice-versa. Harmony and equilibrium can only exist where there is equality on both sides working together in their respective tasks. The vertical beam therefore represents a physical activity, to which the form of the masculine is more suited, which is why it isvertically anchored. Likewise the horizontal beam represents a passive, gently balancing activity which receives and transmits equally to all creatures, and hence it is orientated horizontally. And since man and woman are properly anchored in Creation, this unique symbol really represents the harmony and perfection of the male and female complementary species working together in the circle of Creation!
But this Equal-Armed Cross signifies infinitely much more! It also embodies the three Laws of Creation in a visible form, so that every knowing one who gazes at this symbol will recognise the complete Truth in it!
Think about the Law of Spiritual Gravity which, like gravity on earth, operates in a vertical direction. The planes of Creation are separated out by this Law according to their spiritual density - the lighter and luminous ones at the top, and the heavier and more material ones at the bottom. The Law of Spiritual Gravity hence becomes the vertical beam of the Cross!

Now consider the Law of Attraction, which operates on every plane in Creation. It forms groups of homogeneous species in each realm and power-centres wherever there is homogeneity among the creatures dwelling there. This is a horizontal effect, because it separates the species into their respective category on a particular plane. Hence the Law of Attraction of Homogeneous Species is the horizontal beam of the Cross!
Finally, observe the Law of Karma or the Law of Reciprocal Action which gives us only the fruits of our deeds. Whatever we send out into Creation returns to us, tracing the path of a circle. Since karma is cyclical in its operation we can regard the Law of Karma as the circle that circumscribes the horizontal and vertical beams!

And there we see it alive before us - the Equal-Armed Cross of Truth, the Cross of the Holy Grail, which mediates living power to all those who are able to see the Eternal Truth contained in it. Happy are those who strive with all their might to free their spirits from all karmaic burdens and recognise this Truth, for they will gain immensely from this symbol! The Cross of the Truth will then serve as a perpetual help for them, because they will continuously see the Living Truth before them in a visible form!

These three Laws, which are represented by the Equal-Armed Grail Cross in a circle, are the Living Truth for the sustenance of all Creation. Every spiritual question is answered through and in this Cross, which is firmly connected with the new Knowledge of the Laws of Creation on the earth at this time.
Re: Inquiry For Justcool And M_nwankwo And Other Adherents Of The Grail Message by ChijiokeGodwin(m): 7:56am On Jan 05, 2016
LoJ:
Thank you ChijiokeGodwin. Perhaps you might help me understand something else. I have already asked the question here, but since Justcool and Mnwankwo are no longer regular posters, no one has given me an explanation. I've been seeking for the Truth since the age of 18 when I had a "spiritual encounter". Today I am 26, but still seeking for the Truth. It has a been quite a Journey with ups and downs. I might share the story someday.
Anyway, I was "led" to Abdrushin 2 months ago. So I'm still reading it, trying to bestir myself to grasp it and experience it.
I'd like to know: By what Power/Authorities, some religious men perform such astonishing prophecies, miracles and healings? Excluding of course the fake miracles/prophecies, and the one that can be explained by suggestion, hypnosis, placebo, etc, I think there are still some muslim/christian/buddhist priests or pastor, religious figure that do perfom such extraordinary acts on a regular basis. What is your perception on this issue?
Thank you once again ChijiokeGodwin, and cheers.

Happy new year to you all, fellow seekers. Especially those of you who have kept this peaceful and enlightening thread moving for years, like Justcool, M_nwankwo, Speer, shinealight, etc. You cannot believe the number of people this thread has awakened spiritually. I wish you all strength.

@ LoJ, many true seekers were also led to the Grail Message the same way you were led to It. When a person genuinely seeks the Truth, no mater where is his location, as long as his seeking is genuine, he will certainly be guided until he finds himself face to face with the Truth; The Grail Message. You will not know what you hold in your hands until you learn to delve deeper into the Message with all your heart, in good volition, step by step, slow and steady. Then, at last, you will never want to give It for anything. For It means life to you.

But you cannot grasp the Truth in the Message by asking about the highest things, things far beyond your present capacity to comprehend. Or expecting others to pave an easy passage for you. I am not implying that those who have read the Message should not help a seeker to elucidate some puzzles he encountered while reading. But... the strength you exerted to penetrate deeper by yourself is what will give you the ability to grasp It.

The following is my perception concerning the question you asked.

There is only one Power. This Power come from God. The Power is to be found everywhere in Creation. The Power is poured forth into the entire Creation at the Festivals of Whitsuntide once a year. All creatures use this Power for their sustenance. We use this Power to create the forms of thoughts, words and deeds. It only changes into evil power if we use it for evil purpose. Thus there is nothing like one power from the devil and another from God as your question implies.

Every thought you think, every word you uttered, every action you take, immediately takes on form in the beyond. These forms, combined together, is capable of creating the events you have to experience in your future life on earth. In order word, every event that should take place in our life on earth had already taken on form in the beyond. If an individual has the opportunity to survey those events during sleep or through pictures shown to him by those in the beyond and later passed the information to his fellow earth dwellers, it should not be regarded as astonishing prophecy. However, prophetic (clairvoyance, clairaudience, clairsentinence) ability differs according to one's nature, but it should not be the reason for one person to lord it over another. If a prophesied event fails to materialize, that does not always mean that the seer is a lair. But it shows that the forms in the beyond have been weakened through a change of decision, thus direction.

Miracle. What the religionists called miracle today simply appeared so to them because their brain cannot comprehend the process by which what they call miracle manifest. Everything that happened in Creation is completely in accordance with the Laws God.

In order to understand what they call miracle, you will take your consciousness back when men were still ignorant of the hitherto existing technology. Ask yourself if what we know today as television, in someway or somehow was suddenly shown to the well known king of Egypt 4000 years ago, would he not call the process by which human pictures move in the box (television) a magic or miracle. The same rule apply to the people of today. They branded all those happenings miracle because they are not yet mature to analyze their process of manifestations. You will not doubt that mankind of today will shudder if shown the discoveries or inventions that are yet to come in the next 500 years and call them impossible, magic or miracle.

You will have to learn by the very word of Christ when He was approached by the Pharisees who were demanding for miracle: "When it is evening, you say, 'It will be fair weather, for the sky is red.' "And in the morning, 'There will be a storm today, for the sky is red and threatening.' Do you know how to discern the appearance of the sky, but cannot discern the signs of the times?"

O yes! The signs of the times? Does the above statement show that Christ considered His performance to be miracle? Even His famous walking on the sea was not against the Laws in Creation. The process is explainable by any person who posses the true knowledge of the Laws that govern Creation. When a disease is healed through laying of the hands/prayer or, an event which normally would have taken longer is made to occur at the present time due to concentrated Power, there is nothing arbitrary or extraordinary about it. There is also nothing special about it if some people are possessed with the ability to channel Ethereal Powers. That is why Christ had to assure that anybody can do all He did, as long as the person has true Faith. Unfortunately, men of today have distorted the true meaning of Faith.

Peace.

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Re: Inquiry For Justcool And M_nwankwo And Other Adherents Of The Grail Message by Nobody: 12:55am On Jan 06, 2016
ChijiokeGodwin:


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Thank you, my dear. Your words are deep and an encouragement for me to keep pressing on. I pray other people will also come to a greater recognition of the Truth through you wise advice.

I wish you strengths.
Re: Inquiry For Justcool And M_nwankwo And Other Adherents Of The Grail Message by Marverick09: 10:36am On Jan 06, 2016
@Justcool, I really do appreciate the depth and time you take to explain certains questions as well as the way you express your perception without giving the impression being Mr. Right. It's wonderful to have someone like you here. However, in one of your explanations about bisections, you said it was after Parsifal first incarnated on earth that His feminine counterpart was bisected and took on form as Maria who later incarnated in Casandra. Now, in the book The Great Pyramid of Giza Reveals it's Secrets by Roselis Von Sass, we are made to know Casandra was on Earth 500years before Abdrushin. In your explanation it was Abdrushin Who incarnated first before Casandra. How is one to reconcile these two account ? ? ? ?
Re: Inquiry For Justcool And M_nwankwo And Other Adherents Of The Grail Message by justcool(m): 8:37am On Jan 08, 2016
Speer:


Also, I would take it that the power-centers of the Form-of-the-Word so formed by Jesus (due to His presence) in the spiritual and ethereal planes will be at the highest respective plane-levels given the purity of its formation via the Divine-core envoy. From such topmost planes (of the Primordial Spiritual, Spiritual and ethereal) would it be attracted towards those spirits in lower planes (ethereal) who begin to become to consciousness in the right manner (enabling them to "draw" as such).

This is very correct! However, not only those in the ethereal receive a pull from the words, which had taken on form, but every human being who has longing for the light, irrespective of his location in creation. Even from the earth, one can draw from those eternal words of Christ, though one’s spirit even before coming in contact with the written word. The words radiate into all planes, greatly inciting everybody towards righteousness, everybody who still has longing for Truth.


Speer:

What was the purpose/aim of the first incarnation or journey of Parsifal in Creation wherein He came to the Earth..........and had His mission cut short unfortunately. Was it to provide a Light anchorage at the start of a cycle in Creation as a whole or just the earth planet in Ephesus in particular?

The purpose of His first earthly sojourn was to prepare Himself for His mission at the time of Judgment, cosmic turning point in Ephesus and establishment of the millennium. This mission which He faithfully fulfilled in second coming, entails His dealing or working with mankind. To work with man, He had to know mankind. Coming from the Light, He knew no darkness and all weakness were alien to Him. Hence it was necessary that he got acquainted with weak and dark mankind(human spirits developing from spirit germs), before entering into their school to judge them.

He had to descend all the way to the earth because on earth (the physical plane) can good and bad dwell side by side. Hence it is only in the world of coarsest or heaviest gross matter that He can meet the entire spectrum of mankind. The most evolved man can live on earth, where the most undeveloped one can also live; in fact they might even be neighbors. In the Primordial spiritual realm, He could only meet Primordial spirits and beings who are the purest of all creatures; in the ethereal realm, He can only meet the purest developing human spirits. Because based on his purity, only that which is pure can approach him in the beyond, where the law of attraction of homogenous species will not allow that which is impure to approach Him. Neither will the law of gravity allow such a light, indeed weightless Divine being to sink and live among those in the nether regions of the beyond.

So, in the entire creation, only on earth could He meet all types of human beings and get acquitted with the way they think, and behave.

To further elucidate about the Judgment, cosmic turning point in Ephesus and establishment of the millennium; and also as extension to my post about the working of the words spoken by Jesus and the son of man.
We have already talked about the four stages which the worlds of matter eternally pass though; namely: Birth, Maturity or ripeness, Over-ripeness and Decay. Our physical bodies and everything material go through this eternal cycle. The human spirit germs can only descend into any of the seven parts of the world of matter when that part is at the stage of maturity or ripeness and they have to leave or separate from matter right before Decay sets in, so that they don’t get drawn into the process of decay along with matter. A process which will result in the desolation of their achieved personality, this is the much dreaded spiritual death.

The cosmic turning point marks the time when all mankind on Ephesus (including the earth) would have achieved the spiritual maturity prerequisite for admission into Paradise. Hence if mankind had kept up with their spiritual development, by the cosmic turning point they would all have matured spiritually, and consequently, from then the entire Ephesus would become a reflection of Paradise. From the beginning, it was promised that the Son of man will be there during the cosmic turning point to personally usher them into this Paradise. Then the entire Ephesus will be part of the kingdom of God; both here in the physical(earth) and in the beyond (ethereal) part of Ephesus will become Paradise; or like it is pictorially depicted in the Revelation of John, “A new earth and a new heaven.”

However, due to the failure of mankind, this new earth and heaven could not manifest at the time of the cosmic turning point. Indeed when the time arrived, most mankind ware still asleep spiritually. Hence, before the new heaven and new earth could arise, purification has to take place. The coming of the waited helper brought this purification which is still going on today, which will separate the wheat from the chaff. This process of purification or separation is what we call judgment. Nevertheless, He fulfilled all parts of his mission, even in regards to the millennium. This is because the brought the Divine rays under which mankind could have realized the millennium both spiritually and physically had they not failed. Now only a few individuals, those who have matured inwardly, can experience Paradise, even while living on this degenerate earth; their connection with Paradise allows them to experience it in their spirits.

The words that Jesus and the son of man spoke will remain forever; they will affect all parts of the world of matter. Even after our part disintegrates to be succeeded or followed by another birth, the words will remain, they will take on form again after the succeeding birth. Even though the ethereal forms will one day disintegrate, as all matter will, the force field of the word remains, and will receive another cloak or form after the disintegrated matter reforms itself though birth.

To analogize this, imagine a TV station which eternally sends out its signals into a city. Let’s assume this TV station is continually broadcasting a president’s speech. Many TV sets in the city receive the signals and pictures of the president appear on their screen, while his speech it head from the TV speakers. People in the city can change their TVs as often as they want; they can destroy the old ones and build or buy new ones, but yet whenever they turn it on and switch the aforementioned TV station, it will receive the signals from the TV station and produce the same picture. TVs may get old and replaced, nevertheless, once there are turned on and switched the city’s TV station, the president will appear on their screens and his speech be heard on their speakers.

The TV station represents the spiritual forms of the words of Christ, which radiates from the spiritual realm into all parts of the worlds of matter, the signal represents the force field of the worlds, while the TV sets represents the different parts of the worlds of matter. The picture and sound represents the various planes of each of the different parts of the world of matter.

Speer:

Why did the earthly community he established not last very long after His untimely departure?
The same reason why mankind always failed: Vanity, conceit and the rule of intellect, which are all products spiritual indolence. With His departure and the departure of all the Ishmanites, the people were left alone to strive towards the light by themselves. As always whenever mankind is left alone, they make a golden calf of their intellect and dance around it in worship; just like the Israelites did when Moses left for a while to receive the Ten Commandments. It could only have been out of spiritual indolence, nothing else. They probably integrated with other cultures and abandoned the ways established for them by Parsifal.



Speer:

Was it related to the enslaved nation of Israel in Egypt and their physical emancipation and the more important (& related) simultaneous start of their spiritual mission on earth as a people?.........................

The non-continued existence of the nation, Is-Ra, has nothing to Israel. Is-Ra and Israel are two distinct people.

In regards to the first earthly sojourn of Parsifal, I have already explained the main purpose for His visit; however, all Divine act serves many purposes. So, to free Israel from Egypt is also part of the purpose of His coming; even at that time it was already foreseen that the plight of Israel had set them on a road towards that maturity and purity that will eventually allow or elect them to serve as a bridge for the incarnation of Jesus. Parsifal's incarnation on earth helped in liberation of Israel as well as many other peoples too. Their were Negros(Africans) then, who out of indolence have lost their ability to speak, whom Parsifal’s radiations set free from their infirmity when they met Him. So it wasn’t only Israel; God is not especially kind to only Israel as some religionists suggest. God is kind to all.

But these were not the main purpose of His incarnation on earth, because these He could still have fulfilled from above. Moses, who was sent to free Israel, could only draw his power from or through the Living Justice of God as there is only one source of power. Moses could have drawn this from or though Parsifal, even if Parsifal wasn’t on earth. His being on earth only made things faster and more drastic. Had he not being on earth, Moses would still have succeeded if he was diligent, however it may have taken longer. The curses that visited the Egyptians manifested in minutes after Moses spoke them because Parsifal, who is the living portal of Justice of God, was on earth then, otherwise this process of physical manifestation of the words of Moses could have taken years. Also, it may have taken Moses longer to tear himself away from the comfort of being a prince to the realization of his mission.

Speer:

Cannot thank you enough and mention in words how you have aided in my growth these last three years. You have been extremely generous of your time and knowledge................and the examples you dey give for ur xplanation dey help man-pikin coconut grasp matter.

I thank you too! But all thanks should be directed to the Almighty.

Speer:


Peace, Blessings and Growth in all its facets to you and your family.

This is most gracious and kind of you! I appreciate it and I wish you the same.

HAPPY NEW YEAR!!!!!!

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Re: Inquiry For Justcool And M_nwankwo And Other Adherents Of The Grail Message by justcool(m): 8:42am On Jan 08, 2016
ChijiokeGodwin:


Happy new year to you all, fellow seekers. Especially those of you who have kept this peaceful and enlightening thread moving for years, like Justcool, M_nwankwo, Speer, shinealight, etc. You cannot believe the number of people this thread has awakened spiritually. I wish you all strength.


Thanks. I wish you strength too.
Re: Inquiry For Justcool And M_nwankwo And Other Adherents Of The Grail Message by justcool(m): 11:21am On Jan 08, 2016
Marverick09:
@Justcool, I really do appreciate the depth and time you take to explain certains questions as well as the way you express your perception without giving the impression being Mr. Right. It's wonderful to have someone like you here. However, in one of your explanations about bisections, you said it was after Parsifal first incarnated on earth that His feminine counterpart was bisected and took on form as Maria who later incarnated in Casandra. Now, in the book The Great Pyramid of Giza Reveals it's Secrets by Roselis Von Sass, we are made to know Casandra was on Earth 500years before Abdrushin. In your explanation it was Abdrushin Who incarnated first before Casandra. How is one to reconcile these two account ? ? ? ?

@Marverick09
Thanks for your worthy question and your kind words.

I have never come across where Abd-ru-shin wrote or even hinted that Cassandra incarnated on earth before Abdrushin. From my own perception, from what I have read and what has been revealed to me, Abdrushin lived on earth before Cassandra. I think, if I remembered correctly, that this was specifically and clearly mentioned in the book series PAST ERAS AWAKEN, Volume II, in a chapter called CASSANDRA. Anybody who has that book should please read that chapter and let us know.
Also Abdruschin wrote in RESONANCES TO THE GRAIL, In a lecture called PENTECST:

“Whether this concerned Abd-ru-shin or also Nahome. Maria as Cassandra, or Jesus….”

Although He was not talking about who came first and although not specifically said, I believe He listed the above people in the order of their incarnations.
First: Abd-ru-shin and Nahome.
Second: Maria as Cassandra.
Third: Jesus.

And of course you know I hold Abd-ru-shin as the texts received in His proximity (Received and published while He was on earth and approved by Him) as the final authority. I’m aware that Roselis Von Sass formed her own movement in Brazil and wrote many books. I have not read her books, although I have come across them online; but when the time comes, I may read her works and decide for myself their Truthfulness.

I will not judge her because I have not read her works. But I can categorically tell you that Cassandra lived on earth after Abdrushin and not before.

But even if you follow mundane history you will arrive at the truth in this matter. Egyptian civilization came before any European civilization; Troy was in Europe. Abdrushin lived around the time of Moses, and Ancient Israel civilization started with Moses leading them out of Egypt. Now, carefully observe the timeline of ancient civilizations in the following links:

http://www.timemaps.com/history
http://www.timelines.info/history/empires_and_civilizations/ancient_civilisations/

Now observe the time Ancient Israel started, that around the time Abdrushin lived; also, observe the time Ancient Greek started, it was the Greeks that destroyed Troy, and Cassandra was on earth when Troy was destroyed!

Now from this timeline, tell which came first?

Thanks and remain blessed.

Re: Inquiry For Justcool And M_nwankwo And Other Adherents Of The Grail Message by justcool(m): 11:31am On Jan 08, 2016
Timeline of ancient civilizations

Re: Inquiry For Justcool And M_nwankwo And Other Adherents Of The Grail Message by Marverick09: 7:25pm On Jan 08, 2016
@Justcool indeed I throughly appreciate how you present your personal perceptions. If all Crossbearers and adherents do present their perceptions the way you do there would be less misunderstandings and disagreement among us. However, I have realized the importance of examining all books related to the Message from The Grail and then seek honestly to build my understanding. I know that virtually all the transmitted writings we have today are not precisely what they had in the proximity of Abdrushin. They have been truncated and so in many places there's been gap in our understanding of them. Like in the Message were certain concept have left out in the current edition. Those like you and I who have summoned the courage to look into the past edition can testify of this. I do understand that Roselis was one of those who penned down the transmitted writings in His proximity. So I would urge you not to categorical state with certainty that it was after Abdrushin that Casandra came. For we both were too sure about the Divinity of Frau Maria and Fraulein Irmingard on earth, only to realize that they were anchors. I am forever learning and I only ask questions about things contradictions I do not understand. . The book about the Pyramid is a very insightful book. The first time I saw I didn't want examine it even I had the yearning to, but for the fact she formed her own group, hence I rejected it. It was after I actually read the Old version of The Message that I decided to actually examine every book and decide for myself, rather than follow popular belief. In the book we are made to understand that the top of the pyramid was made flat so that if mankind remains faithful till the time The Judge sets foot on earth, He will journey to egypt and personally place His Sign, the Cross of Truth on it. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Now that brings me to another question, the lecture Christmas says the Son of Man wasn't originally meant to descend to the earth, and yet all prophecies of His coming for the judgement spoke about His walking the earth in a human form. Does that mean He was supposed to conclude the judgememt from the clouds after which He would descend into the earth and lead the up building personally? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?. . . . . . . . . . But that changed when mankind committed the most grievous murder, that of Jesus. . . . . . . . . . . . . . Can you please throw more light according to your perception. For indeed you have wonderful insights I can benefit from. Thanks in anticipation of response.
Re: Inquiry For Justcool And M_nwankwo And Other Adherents Of The Grail Message by Marverick09: 7:56am On Jan 09, 2016
The great pyramid of Giza, end time prophecies and king Cheops.

ONE OF THE SEVEN WONDERS OF THE ANCIENT WORLD, THE PYRAMID OF GIZA, HAS remained an enigma even to pyramidologists. Scholars have devoted their life to the studies of this enigma, but few have been able to unravel the mystery behind the building of this edifice. The mystery of the mathematical precision of its dimensions, and the fact that this is being discovered at this time shows even the accuracy of its own predictions-like Nostradamus who predicted his own death and the date when his body will be exhumed and transferred to a different grave. Unfortunately the full implication of the pyramid and its prophecies must continue to be an enigma as long as the fundamental issues are neglected.

Through the Grail Message, enlightenment also came to mankind on the significance of this work.

The pyramid was built about six thousand five hundred years ago-two thousand five hundred years before the destruction of Troy (which coincided with the era of Abraham); four thousand five hundred years B.C.E. and three thousand years before Moses. It was built about five thousand five hundred years after the sinking of Atlantis. In my earlier write-up about Atlantis, I indicated that the real Atlanteans, or the Erarians, all perished when Atlantis sank, and made up what today we describe as the Arian race in their further incarnations. Many may have been part of the then home of knowledge in Chaldea, the then world center of knowledge. And it was in Chaldea that the pyramid of Giza was conceptualized. Clairvoyants and mediums of very high repute were able to see the replica of the pyramid in the beyond, and were commissioned to wait for the master builder who will translate it to the material world. And this master builder was to be found in Arabia. His name was Pyramon.

Pyramon journeyed to Chaldea because he has been told by the Wiseman in Arabia, who studied under Sargon the Priest-King of Chaldea, whose name was Magog, that his life work lies in going to the land of the wise men to receive instructions on the building of a prophetic monument on earth, which will be an earthly imitation of the pyramid that exists at the source of creations. (The one at the summit of creations is a diamond crystal subsumed by flames.)There he was presented with the model of the pyramid which he has often seen in his dreams. He was told that the giants will only work with him or no one else, and that the pyramid will be the last work that the giants will do in collaboration with human beings.

Perhaps it is necessary to explain who the giants are. To explain that would entail going into mythology, at least, to bring out the basic remnants of knowledge that has been transmitted to us through fables and myth. For example, we know through the Greek mythology that there was an Atlas that held the sky at the summit of the Atlas Mountains. And we also know through the Greeks that there were gods who interact with human beings. But what may sound strange to people is that these so called gods are still in existence today, and that some human beings still interact with them because they see them. Of more recent controversies is the fact that some people, like the famous author of Shylock Holmes series of detective works, were able to see these and documented their interaction with gnomes.

Among this group of beings are giants. These giants have their field of activity, not in the ethereal plane, but in the medium gross matter, generally known as the astral plane by mystical pseudoscience. They also have the ability to work at the various intermediate planes between the astral plane and the physical world. That was why it was possible for people to see them with particularly sensitive physical eyes. That was also why they can work directly on the physical world at the same time as the astral world, also having their influence in the ethereal. They worked with Hjalfder millions of years ago, with Ororun in Atlantis twelve thousand years ago, and were the guardians of the treasures of Ara-Mazda's ruined palace in Iran. But their last active collaboration with human beings was during the construction of the great pyramid. They are called the giants because of their great size. This aught to be differentiated from those giant beings whose duties are the protection of places of worship.





The exact position of the pyramid was carefully selected. It is meant to be at the center of the world, ninety degrees east of the Bermuda triangle. And this center was not in Chaldea; not in Arabia but in Egypt. Today it can be identified at the exact intercession point between longitude 30 degrees east and latitude 30 degrees north. Initially this was meant to be the intersection between latitude 0 degree and longitude zero degrees. But the use of modern units changed all that-coupled with the fact that the earth has been changing in its orbital position due to increasing rigidity resulting from dark ethereal clouds.It is separated from the Bermuda triangle by 90 degrees.

On being instructed by Sargon the Priest king of Chaldea, Gum Kolbe, a hoary old man of over two hundred years of age, and who looked far younger, was assigned to instruct him using a model that was already constructed for the purpose. Pyramon had later to build another model all by himself to acquaint himself of the difficulties and challenges involved. At this time, Tishbe, a teenager who was linked to Pyramon with a supra earthly bond of love, came to Chaldea from Arabia and was briefly with him before he left for Akeru in Egypt. Tishbe's job was to help fight the Luciferian religious cults that demand for the glorification of the female body, killings and falsehood for its sustenance. She later went to meet Pyramon in Egypt and was able to prevent him from being poisoned a second time by one of the priestesses of the new god, Septu, also known as Lucifer or Baal. Priestesses of this "god" had once attempted to murder Pyramon through poison to prevent him from completing the pyramid. They all but succeeded, and Pyramon was In coma for several weeks. All the healers of Akeru did everything they know of but to no avail, hence they had no option but to appeal to the Elemental lord of healing and medicine to personally intervene. Aesculapius heeded their request and came by himself. His lower subordinates, the gods of thunder and lightning, displayed in the announcement of his coming, and he came and was able to unite Pyramon back to his body.

About five hundred years later, when Lucifer succeeded in taking over the control of Pharaohs as their guide and adviser, he was known as Re or Ra. Lucifer, of course, was not seen personally by these Pharaohs but his emanations. At that time, he was sending messages to the people through his priestesses in the name of the Lord of the Sun. The being in charge of the sun is masculine while those in charge of the moon and the earth are female respectively. Thus the much touted word mother-father-earth is an aberration.

The spiritual bond between Pyramon and Tishbe was a very strong one and later resulted in the fable of a tragic love affair between Pyramus and Tishbe that ended in double suicide. Only a vague recollection of the truth sufficed for this.

Before the appearance of Pyramon, The giants were already busy gathering the stones and cutting them to shape for the construction. They brought the stones from far and wide through the process that today may be called the process of Apportation. Today, discarnate entities are able to move objects from far distances in the presence of a medium-activities which some so called magicians utilize to mesmerize their audience. Pyramon concentrated on the pyramid while some others, including one who, three thousand seven hundred years later would be re-incarnated in Israel as Isaiah, handled the sphinx.

The significance of the pyramid

The pyramid is called "prophecy on stone" and rightly so. The reason why it was built was to warn about the last judgment that will befall mankind 6500 years after it was built. Each single stone placed there has significance. Distances represent historical time. Let us examine in broad outline the significance of certain features of the pyramid.

The Queen's chamber is an indication that their will be a female envoy from the luminous heavens. This envoy is already known in ancient times. In most places, temples are built in honor of Isis the goddess of love. This happens to be an elemental being that swings in the radiation of this envoy, just as Astarte is a being that swings in the radiation of the Queen of Purity. She is the first to be incarnated in the world of matter. Calculations show that he will be around 2500 years from the construction of the pyramid, i.e., 2000 years B.C.E. She came around the modern day western border of turkey, called Troy at that time. Her activities as Cassandra were mentioned in the Iliad of Homer. Homer himself was only relieving far memory as he may have been around during the destruction of Troy. Her death coincided with the destruction of Troy because none of her warnings was heeded. She died in an enclosed room.

The part that leads to the chamber indicates a bifurcation where a part heads downwards to the abyss. It signifies that a part of mankind will not be heading for the luminous heights but to the abyss. The enclosed chambers signify two things: that she will die in an enclosed chamber and that all her warnings will not be heeded. This was fulfilled in the activities' of Cassandra in troy that died in an enclosed room due to the machinations of Clymnestra, Agamemnon's estranged queen.

At her death in troy, a great earthquake happened at the pyramid around 2000 B.C.E.

The first envoy that came was during the time of Moses, 500 years after the death of Cassandra. In fact, many that failed in their duties during the time of Troy reincarnated within that time to redeem themselves by service to the light envoy. He had his kingdom in Sudan and was the power behind the activities of Moses. He was murdered just when Moses was taking the Israelites out of Egypt by agents of pharaoh Ramses II. The death resulted in a second earthquake at the pyramid, few days before Moses parted the red sea for the Israelites to pass. This was represented by the airy chamber.

The second airy chamber represents the coming of Jesus Christ. Both chambers are airy with high ceilings. Christ lived and worked in Israel. He was crucified as a troublesome truth bringer. At his death, according to the letter of Pontius Pilate to Cesar explaining his role on the issue, there was an earthquake in Egypt which killed a seer. A priest of Apollo declared:"It is either the author of creation is suffering or the world is coming to an end."

This was the third earthquake at the pyramid.

After the second airy chamber, which depicts the appearance of the second envoy from the luminous heights, the path narrows down and the ceiling becomes so low that whoever is walking along the corridor is forced to go down on all fours, looking down. This depicts the near complete subjection of the whole of mankind to the domination of the intellect which is bound to space and time and anchored in the material. Humanity could no longer look up to the luminous heights. This can be represented by the dark ages, which engulfed the whole of mankind and which only changes its cloak up to the late nineteenth and early twentieth century. Of the dark ages stripped us of the human dignity and made us crawl like beast on the ground. Human spirits should be uprightly gazing towards the luminous heights. But gradually the corridor becomes higher again, indicating the time of resurgence of knowledge on earth. However, this knowledge shows we are not having the desire of change of heart and recognition of the guilt we were so recently burdened and for which, according to the irrevocable laws of God, we must pay dearly for. Hence it necessitates the narrowing of the corridor again until what pyramidologists may be able to calculate to fall towards the early part of the twentieth century, when the corridor becomes airy again. Then an unexpected wall appears again to completely block the road. This is the cosmic turning point; the end of the period of development for human beings. This is marked by the sudden turning of the corridor into a large hall with an empty, ugly coffin. The floor of this hall is rough and uneven, with cracks on the roof. THIS IS THE HALL OF JUDGMENT. Knowing ones already know when the judgment is scheduled to start. But the measurement of the height of the chamber gives the accurate number of years that the judgment is going to last. The roughness of the terrain, the eerie nature of the whole place indicates the period of tribulation. The empty coffin indicates the resurrection of all that is dead to pass judgment on themselves and the fulfillment of the prophecies of the end time.





Every large hall in the pyramid is meant to indicate the coming of an envoy from the luminous heights.In this instance, love precedes justice, though in the eternal scheme of things love cannot be separated from justice for they are one. Thus Cassandra was meant to bring a message of love and point towards the coming of the envoy that lived in present day Sudan during the time of Moses. Jesus had to come to bring his own message and point towards the coming of the "comforter", the Son of Man who will bring the judgment. The world judge will bring his own message. But the condition this time is that whoever accepts the message will survive the hall of judgment and will not fear the sarcophagus. Measurements of some specific dimensions of the sarcophagus indicate those who will accept this word, which is very small. The condition for further existence of human beings in this part of creation is thus the acceptance or otherwise of this message. Thus the message automatically becomes the instrument of the judgment.

The hall of judgment! The last judgment! In the ethereal prototype of the pyramid there is actually a rotten corpse inside the coffin. The pyramid there used to be called the monument of the dying phoenix, but currently it is called the monument of the dead phoenix. It is meant to receive the dead-here is meant the spiritually dead-human spirits who could not pass the judgment.

The connection with Cheops.

The pyramid, even with a few years of disruption during its construction, was completed by the giants and Pyramon in forty years. But the pyramid beside it, about a mile away, took over two hundred years to build with slave labor. The building started about seven hundred years after the building of the main pyramid, under king Nerferkere. They used the left over stones of the main pyramid, which was enormous. They studied the sphinx pyramid for a long time. Black slaves were brought in from Sudan as laborers, and they came with their families. One significant thing is that they introduced Yam to Egypt. Nerferkere ruled for sixty years without completing the pyramid. He was only able to complete the base. Nerferkere was succeeded by Nebre who ruled for fifty years and was deposed and succeeded by Snofru. He himself ruled for sixty years and was succeeded by Cheops. Cheops inherited a pyramid about one third completed. So many workers were crushed during the construction. After ruling for over fifty years, and realizing that he cannot complete the pyramid, he took the advice of his chief priest and broke into the pyramid, removed the plates that was kept inside by pyramon (70 in all )and added plates indicating he was the builder. Hence he succeeded in immortalizing his name. It took five kings to build the smallest pyramid, after Cheops' priest who took over from him completed the second one.



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Re: Inquiry For Justcool And M_nwankwo And Other Adherents Of The Grail Message by Marverick09: 8:06am On Jan 09, 2016
@justcool. From the above one can see that in Roselis account, the Pyramid was built 6,500years ago while modern day accounts says it about 4,500years ago by Khufu. And then Roselis speaks of falsification by Khufu so as to make posterity think it was actually him who built the Pyramid. . Her account speaks of Isaiah receiving the vision of the Pyramid while it was under construction and then journeyed to Egypt with his wife to behold it. Ana he(Isaiah) was given another vision which says he will incarnate again 3,700years after and still bear the same and still a prophet. . . . . . . . . . There's so much confusion with so many accounts.
Re: Inquiry For Justcool And M_nwankwo And Other Adherents Of The Grail Message by Nobody: 10:08am On Jan 09, 2016
Hello to all.

@ Justcool & Marverick09
I have no great experience with the Grail message and the various movements associated with it, therefore I don't know to what extend the humble opinion I am about to express is consistent with the message of Abdrushin. I'm therefore willing to be corrected, if whatever I say is not in accord with the laws of God.

The eagerness and desire to know with mathematical exactitude the whole spiritual history of humanity and the controversies that result from it, are according to me, most of the time the fruit of curiosity and the workings of the frontal brain. In my sensing True Service to God and true worship are different from the attempt to satisfy that intellectual curiosity, which is not always beneficial to the individual.

We humans ought to strive to get an ever increasing recognition of the Laws of GOD and live more and more in accord with them. We should allow thereby the inner virtues of the spirit (Purity, Love, Justice, etc.) to shine through our various bodies and illuminate our environment, allowing us to ascend and inciting others to come to the recognition of God.

In doing so, if we need for our spiritual development to know certain spiritual happenings in the history of mankind, it shall be granted to us with or without human intervention, with or without books. There is a reason why some of those events are hidden!

Henceforth, reading various books and disputing which one is the most infallible and authoritative, is in my sensing not the correct way to go about it. It is according to me, a shortcut to true spiritual development, a working of the intellect which Abdrushin rightfully condemned. The Book of life is available for all of us to draw from it, whenever our spiritual condition permits it.

This is my humble view, and I stand to be corrected.

Cheerful greetings to all.
Re: Inquiry For Justcool And M_nwankwo And Other Adherents Of The Grail Message by Nobody: 11:46am On Jan 09, 2016
Marverick09:

Article Source: http://EzineArticles.com/expert/Uche_Mbah/547586
I followed the link you gave.

I wish you blessings.

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