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Re: "Muslim Women Must Learn English Or Be Deported" - British PM. by mobaladf: 5:29pm On Jan 19, 2016
tunshe:
Islamophobia!

It could have been better stated that all immigrants must learn English.

Whether they learn English or not, a devilish mind will always heed to the call of Devils.

It has nothing to do with Islam, perhaps he meant Arabs.

Statement like this isn't different from that of Donald trump,hence, UK government has no justification debating on his stance.

Ignorance,intolerance and religious sentiments are the symptoms of those who judge the action of a few on a multitude.

Islam is peace, it takes objectivity to accept.

Are you a muslim. If muslim is wholly peace, why iran and iraq dey fight even though they are both muslim.

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Re: "Muslim Women Must Learn English Or Be Deported" - British PM. by Nobody: 5:33pm On Jan 19, 2016
how many of such women do you find in UK? Their numbers are so few that the British government dont consider them an issue.

mufutau55:
Not bad... everyone must speak the language of the land...
BUT what about the CHRISTIAN women who cannot speak English? There are plenty of them too. Will they be exempted?

Hajji M.

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Re: "Muslim Women Must Learn English Or Be Deported" - British PM. by mobaladf: 5:39pm On Jan 19, 2016
War, disaster is already in all Islam blood because f wrong teachings from so called false imam who cant simply interpret what the Qu'ran says in a good manner. They always interprete it in a bad and evilish manner. How do you expect pple to take you guys as peace religion when your Qu'ran says..... no you mis interprete your Qu'ran. That says you shud kill pple because they are not interested in your religion or pple that does not accept your religion #Islam# True talk

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Re: "Muslim Women Must Learn English Or Be Deported" - British PM. by 9jatatafo(m): 5:43pm On Jan 19, 2016
Banjoramos:


Hmmm so you never even read english translation of the Holy quran

Never seen it and I would love to read it. I wonder how come the youths from the North are easily brainwashed into violent acts

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Re: "Muslim Women Must Learn English Or Be Deported" - British PM. by Chinwem(f): 5:44pm On Jan 19, 2016
Are they really gonna start deporting people because they can't speak English ?? Hmmmm. Just negodu

Most Africans speak better English than some of those Polish guys there...... Hope they won't be selective in their deporting otherwise angry

Anyway at £145 per exam , retested every two years , with no guarantee of passing the first time, they better budget well.
Re: "Muslim Women Must Learn English Or Be Deported" - British PM. by UyiIredia(m): 5:50pm On Jan 19, 2016
GreenWhiteGreen:
But they can recite quran from A to Z. We also have them in naija. Learning quran instead of going to school to have education. Mumu.

True talk. They learn Koran to get connects to steal our Commonwealth directly from the center. They should go to school. You can't say Western education is evil and use its products.

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Re: "Muslim Women Must Learn English Or Be Deported" - British PM. by xage(m): 5:53pm On Jan 19, 2016
GreenWhiteGreen:
But they can recite quran from A to Z. We also have them in naija. Learning quran instead of going to school to have education. Mumu.

The Qur'an learners you mock on earth will mock you in the hereafter on your way to hell

Mark this in your memory
Re: "Muslim Women Must Learn English Or Be Deported" - British PM. by xage(m): 5:54pm On Jan 19, 2016
GreenWhiteGreen:
But they can recite quran from A to Z. We also have them in naija. Learning quran instead of going to school to have education. Mumu.

The Qur'an learners you mock on earth will mock you in the hereafter on your way to hell

Mark taahis in your memory

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Re: "Muslim Women Must Learn English Or Be Deported" - British PM. by xage(m): 5:54pm On Jan 19, 2016
GreenWhiteGreen:
But they can recite quran from A to Z. We also have them in naija. Learning quran instead of going to school to have education. Mumu.

The Qur'an learners you mock on earth will mock you in the hereafter on your way to hell

Mark this in your memory

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Re: "Muslim Women Must Learn English Or Be Deported" - British PM. by xage(m): 5:54pm On Jan 19, 2016
GreenWhiteGreen:
But they can recite quran from A to Z. We also have them in naija. Learning quran instead of going to school to have education. Mumu.

The Qur'an learners you mock on earth will mock you in the hereafter on your way to hell

Mark taahis in your memory

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Re: "Muslim Women Must Learn English Or Be Deported" - British PM. by Nobody: 5:56pm On Jan 19, 2016
mufutau55:
Not bad... everyone must speak the language of the land...
BUT what about the CHRISTIAN women who cannot speak English? There are plenty of them too. Will they be exempted?

Hajji M.

Thing is....even though Cameron is speaking to Muslim women.....even those who are not Muslim but cannot speak English should take note too.

Fact is....it is very very beneficial to speak the language of the country you emigrate to....especially as it is useful for things like jobs, benefits,etc.

I have a relation who lives in a European country. No one told him before he started learning the local tongue.

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Re: "Muslim Women Must Learn English Or Be Deported" - British PM. by Nobody: 5:59pm On Jan 19, 2016
Chinwem:
Are they really gonna start deporting people because they can't speak English ?? Hmmmm. Just negodu

Most Africans speak better English than some of those Polish guys there...... Hope they won't be selective in their deporting otherwise angry

Anyway at £145 per exam , retested every two years , with no guarantee of passing the first time, they better budget well.

It is not just the deportation.....it is the fact that you won't be able to cope living in a foreign country if you cannot speak the language.
Re: "Muslim Women Must Learn English Or Be Deported" - British PM. by Nobody: 6:03pm On Jan 19, 2016
David Cameron is such a fool. Hate him! Anyone who voted for him deserves the stupid things he's doing!
Re: "Muslim Women Must Learn English Or Be Deported" - British PM. by tunshe: 6:03pm On Jan 19, 2016
damilove:


Stop contradicting yourself and confusing people.


You are the one without a sound comprehension skill.
Re: "Muslim Women Must Learn English Or Be Deported" - British PM. by kobonaire(m): 6:09pm On Jan 19, 2016
Did PM David Cameron explicitly say "Muslim women" ??
Re: "Muslim Women Must Learn English Or Be Deported" - British PM. by Nobody: 6:09pm On Jan 19, 2016
GreenWhiteGreen:
But they can recite quran from A to Z. We also have them in naija. Learning quran instead of going to school to have education. Mumu.
Some people are so stupid that they don't have an idea how stupid they are
Re: "Muslim Women Must Learn English Or Be Deported" - British PM. by Nobody: 6:11pm On Jan 19, 2016
GreenWhiteGreen:
But they can recite quran from A to Z. We also have them in naija. Learning quran instead of going to school to have education. Mumu.
Some peolle are so stupid that they don't know how stupid they are..please just have sense
Re: "Muslim Women Must Learn English Or Be Deported" - British PM. by Nobody: 6:12pm On Jan 19, 2016
MissGdope:
David Cameron is such a fool. Hate him! Anyone who voted for him deserves the stupid things he's doing!



We may shout at Cameron....but what he is doing is good advice. If you want to live in the UK....you must speak the British tongue...which in most parts of the UK is English. Because....you may need to apply for jobs, benefits....you may need to understand road signs,maps,etc....and you need to access services. And while there might be some that offer language help....it isn't everywhere.

And if you cannot speak English....you miss out and suffer unnecessarily.

Cameron is giving the ladies good and beneficial advice.Or if you think he is bad.....try Denmark....where you better learn Danish in one year....or problem dey. Or Japan....where you must learn Japanese to survive...especially outside Tokyo. Or China, or France....or anywhere. Not everyone speaks your language.
Re: "Muslim Women Must Learn English Or Be Deported" - British PM. by Chukazu: 6:14pm On Jan 19, 2016
but, why single out women though?
Re: "Muslim Women Must Learn English Or Be Deported" - British PM. by closearms(m): 6:14pm On Jan 19, 2016
GreenWhiteGreen:
But they can recite quran from A to Z. We also have them in naija. Learning quran instead of going to school to have education. Mumu.
just imagine what u have posted.. so is a crime to study their Quran?

and who told you that all educated ppl are civilised ppl
Re: "Muslim Women Must Learn English Or Be Deported" - British PM. by Banjoramos(m): 6:42pm On Jan 19, 2016
9jatatafo:


Never seen it and I would love to read it. I wonder how come the youths from the North are easily brainwashed into violent acts

Good, the Quran is very easy to understand and you can read the whole quran in a day. so where do you live and how do you want me to send it to you? You can also get it any any islamic bookshops or mosques

1. Inimitable
It dares you to disprove it. How?
It says that humans cannot write
a book like this even if they
pooled all their resources
together and got help also from
the spirits.
The Qur’an said this issue
fourteen hundred years ago and
yet no one has been able to
disprove it. Billions of books have
been written-but not another
one like the Qur’an.

2. Incorruptible
It is the only religious sacred
writing that has been in
circulation for such a long time
and yet remains as pure as it was
in the beginning. The Qur’an was
kept intact.
Nothing was added to it; nothing
was changed in it; and nothing
was taken away from it ever
since its revelation was
completed 1400 years ago.

3. Unsurpassable
The Qur’an is God’s final
revelation to humankind.
God revealed the Torah to Moses,
the Psalms to David, the Gospel to
Jesus, and finally the Qur’an to
Muhammad peace and blessings
be upon Moses, David, Jesus and
Muhammad. No other book will
come from God to surpass His
final revelation.

4. Indisputable
The Qur’an withstands the test of
time and scrutiny. No one can
dispute the truth of this book. It
speaks about past history and
turns out right. It speaks about
the future in prophecies and it
turns out right.
It mentions details of physical
phenomena which were not
known to people at the time; yet
later scientific discoveries prove
that the Qur’an was right all
along.
Every other book needs to be
revised to accord with modern
knowledge. The Qur’an alone is
never contradicted by a newly
discovered scientific fact.

5. Your Roadmap for Life and
Afterlife
The Qur’an is the best guidebook
on how to structure your life. No
other book presents such a
comprehensive system involving
all aspects of human life.
The Qur’an also points out the
way to secure everlasting
happiness in the afterlife. It is
your roadmap showing how to
get to Paradise.

6. God’s Gift of Guidance
God has not left you alone. You
were made for a reason. God tells
you why he made you, what he
demands from you and what he
has in store for you.
If you operate a machine
contrary to its manufacturer’s
specification you will ruin that
machine. What about you? Do
you have an owner’s manual for
yourself? The Qur’an is from your
Maker. It is a gift for you to make
sure you function for success,
lest you fail to function.
It is a healing from God. It
satisfies the soul, and cleans the
heart. It removes doubts and
brings peace.

7. Your Calling Card to
Communicate with your Lord
Humans are social creatures. We
love to communicate with other
intelligent life. The Qur’an tells us
how to communicate with the
source of all intelligence and the
source of all life.
The Qur’an tells us who God is, by
what name we should address
Him, and the way in which to
communicate with Him.
Re: "Muslim Women Must Learn English Or Be Deported" - British PM. by Youngzedd(m): 7:02pm On Jan 19, 2016
GreenWhiteGreen:
But they can recite quran from A to Z. We also have them in naija. Learning quran instead of going to school to have education. Mumu.
Re: "Muslim Women Must Learn English Or Be Deported" - British PM. by Nobody: 7:04pm On Jan 19, 2016
xage:


The Qur'an learners you mock on earth will mock you in the hereafter on your way to hell

Mark this in your memory

Fattest lie ever.
Re: "Muslim Women Must Learn English Or Be Deported" - British PM. by Nobody: 7:04pm On Jan 19, 2016
Banjoramos:


Good, the Quran is very easy to understand and you can read the whole quran in a day. so where do you live and how do you want me to send it to you? You can also get it any any islamic bookshops or mosques

1. Inimitable
It dares you to disprove it. How?
It says that humans cannot write
a book like this even if they
pooled all their resources
together and got help also from
the spirits.
The Qur’an said this issue
fourteen hundred years ago and
yet no one has been able to
disprove it. Billions of books have
been written-but not another
one like the Qur’an.

2. Incorruptible
It is the only religious sacred
writing that has been in
circulation for such a long time
and yet remains as pure as it was
in the beginning. The Qur’an was
kept intact.
Nothing was added to it; nothing
was changed in it; and nothing
was taken away from it ever
since its revelation was
completed 1400 years ago.

3. Unsurpassable
The Qur’an is God’s final
revelation to humankind.
God revealed the Torah to Moses,
the Psalms to David, the Gospel to
Jesus, and finally the Qur’an to
Muhammad peace and blessings
be upon Moses, David, Jesus and
Muhammad. No other book will
come from God to surpass His
final revelation.

4. Indisputable
The Qur’an withstands the test of
time and scrutiny. No one can
dispute the truth of this book. It
speaks about past history and
turns out right. It speaks about
the future in prophecies and it
turns out right.
It mentions details of physical
phenomena which were not
known to people at the time; yet
later scientific discoveries prove
that the Qur’an was right all
along.
Every other book needs to be
revised to accord with modern
knowledge. The Qur’an alone is
never contradicted by a newly
discovered scientific fact.

5. Your Roadmap for Life and
Afterlife
The Qur’an is the best guidebook
on how to structure your life. No
other book presents such a
comprehensive system involving
all aspects of human life.
The Qur’an also points out the
way to secure everlasting
happiness in the afterlife. It is
your roadmap showing how to
get to Paradise.

6. God’s Gift of Guidance
God has not left you alone. You
were made for a reason. God tells
you why he made you, what he
demands from you and what he
has in store for you.
If you operate a machine
contrary to its manufacturer’s
specification you will ruin that
machine. What about you? Do
you have an owner’s manual for
yourself? The Qur’an is from your
Maker. It is a gift for you to make
sure you function for success,
lest you fail to function.
It is a healing from God. It
satisfies the soul, and cleans the
heart. It removes doubts and
brings peace.

7. Your Calling Card to
Communicate with your Lord
Humans are social creatures. We
love to communicate with other
intelligent life. The Qur’an tells us
how to communicate with the
source of all intelligence and the
source of all life.
The Qur’an tells us who God is, by
what name we should address
Him, and the way in which to
communicate with Him.

Another lie.

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Re: "Muslim Women Must Learn English Or Be Deported" - British PM. by mufutau55(m): 7:07pm On Jan 19, 2016
Kikero112:

Thing is....even though Cameron is speaking to Muslim women.....even those who are not Muslim but cannot speak English should take note too.
Fact is....it is very very beneficial to speak the language of the country you emigrate to....especially as it is useful for things like jobs, benefits,etc.
I have a relation who lives in a European country. No one told him before he started learning the local tongue.

Exactly my point here, it should be a requirement for anyone who resides in any country to be able to speak language of the land.
It is more beneficial to everyone.... not just Muslim, Christian, Hindus, Jews etc.

Hajji M.
Re: "Muslim Women Must Learn English Or Be Deported" - British PM. by Banjoramos(m): 7:19pm On Jan 19, 2016
dearpreye:


Another lie.


salaam ( peace unto you) the whole universe is full of evidence indicating that there is Allah (God) and that He is the Creator and Sustainer of all that exists. We can prove this by acknowledging that all this did not occur by accident in space. So if there is a creation, it logically follows that there is a Creator. As such it is up to Him to determine what the purpose of this creation is all about. God, in His Infinite Wisdom, has chosen to reveal this purpose and plan to us through the system of messengers and books.
We are not in opposition with the belief in God, but rather we are only bringing about a clarification and return to the more original concepts with Islam. We are all brothers in humanity as well as acknowledging that we come from Adam. The idea of being a Muslim brother or sister is that we are “brothers in faith.” we are not trying to deny God, His Books, His Angels and His Messengers, not at all. Islam is only making clear what the concept and relationship of Allah (God)is to us.


The concept of Allah

He is the Creator, but not created;

He Sustains, but is not sustained;

He exists, but never within what He created;

He has Divine Attributes, but they are the epitome or ultimate of that characteristic;

He has features, but they are not to be compared to what is in His creation. While He is Perfect in every aspect, His creatures (us) are not.


Allah is far Exalted above His creation and as such we should never try to make Him manifest somehow inside of anything or anyone. Regarding the status of angels, they are perfect. They obey every single command of Allah and never falter in their duties. The idea of the devil being a “fallen angel” is totally alien to Islam. The devil was elevated to worship Allah along with the angels, but he was not one of them.
Adam and Eve. Adam is created from clay, Eve is created from his rib (same as the Bible). The subject of the “sin of the forbidden fruit” is that both sinned. They repented and Allah accepted their repentance and forgave them. Sending them down out of Paradise to the earth was not a punishment from Allah for what they did. Rather, it was something that Allah had destined for them before He ever created them. All of this is a part of the Divine Plan of Allah to make the world a “testing ground” as it were, for them and all the humans that came after them.


Islam's stance on the purpose of this life. We are only in this existence for a short period of time to see if we will do one of two things: worship Allah as He has ordered, or worship something that He created. If we fulfill our obligation to Allah in worship and exert our efforts in offering Him sincere devotion, then He will forgive the other minor sins upon repenting to Him, and we would then be admitted to His Paradise in sha Allah.(If God will) On the other hand, if we do not fulfill our duty to Allah, then we would be thrown into total ruin by our own choice.


How can we know what Allah wants for us and how can we best achieve our goal, which is Paradise?

We cannot begin to guess the answer to this anymore than we can create ourselves in the first place.

We need guidance for this. Where do we obtain it? The only way possible is if Allah the Almighty reveals something to us .The Qur'an is the final revelation in a long series of revelations from Almighty Allah to mankind. It supercedes the previous revelations and as such replaces whatever might remain of them. So as the Bible is understood to be the “Old Testament” and “New Testament” then the Qur'an would be the “Final Testament” according to this type of labeling.


Part of the essential belief for the Muslim is to have firm faith in the fact that Allah, the Exalted, sent down the original revelations in the past. They include:


•Scrolls of Abraham

•Torah of Moses

•Psalms of David

•Gospel of Jesus

•The Glorious Qur'an to Muhammad


Each Prophet, peace be upon all of them, came only to bring the simple message of “There is no deity to worship throughout the entire creation, except Allah Who is the Creator but never in His Creation.”

Muslims are taught to elevate all the Prophets to a level of high honor and respect. We do not associate them with major sins and crimes. While we take all the Prophets to such a high degree in Islam, we do not make them as gods or demi-gods. So, Islam clears Prophet Lot of the crime of incest and Prophet David from committing adultery, and so on. Additionally, while taking these Prophets to such lofty status, Islam simply never approves of the status Jesus, peace be upon him, is held in Christianity, rather it returns him to the level that he mentioned about himself as being subject to the authority of Almighty Allah (God).


Their is distinction between Islam and what some Muslims do. Islam is a verbal noun. It is an action, something that you do. It means to surrender, submit, and obey Allah in sincerity and peace in all that we do while here on the earth. If someone does this, then he or she is a Muslim whether or not they know it. “Muslim” simply means the one who is performing the verb or action of “Islam.” Some people have the name “Muslim” while not actually fulfilling the title. So, we would separate the two words and understand that while “Islam” is perfect, those who try to do it (Muslims) are not perfect.

May Allah always make us see the truth as truth, and allow us to follow it, and see falsehood as falsehood and to abstain from it. Ameen
Re: "Muslim Women Must Learn English Or Be Deported" - British PM. by Nobody: 7:31pm On Jan 19, 2016
Kikero112:




We may shout at Cameron....but what he is doing is good advice. If you want to live in the UK....you must speak the British tongue...which in most parts of the UK is English. Because....you may need to apply for jobs, benefits....you may need to understand road signs,maps,etc....and you need to access services. And while there might be some that offer language help....it isn't everywhere.

And if you cannot speak English....you miss out and suffer unnecessarily.

Cameron is giving the ladies good and beneficial advice.Or if you think he is bad.....try Denmark....where you better learn Danish in one year....or problem dey. Or Japan....where you must learn Japanese to survive...especially outside Tokyo. Or China, or France....or anywhere. Not everyone speaks your language.
I'm not even talking about this language rubbish. Thats not my problem. If you live in the UK, then you'll know that the conservatives are devils
Re: "Muslim Women Must Learn English Or Be Deported" - British PM. by CoolUsername: 7:36pm On Jan 19, 2016
tunshe:
Islamophobia!

It could have been better stated that all immigrants must learn English.

Whether they learn English or not, a devilish mind will always heed to the call of Devils.

It has nothing to do with Islam, perhaps he meant Arabs.

Statement like this isn't different from that of Donald trump,hence, UK government has no justification debating on his stance. They are birds of a feather!

Ignorance,intolerance and religious sentiments are the symptoms of those who judge the action of a few on a multitude.

Islam is peace, it takes objectivity to accept.

Before I engage your argument can you answer a simple question?

Saudi Arabia, the home of the islamic Holy City, Mecca follows pure sharia law. Over there, the law states that all atheists should be sentenced to death by decapitation.
Are you for or against this?
Re: "Muslim Women Must Learn English Or Be Deported" - British PM. by daveP(m): 7:40pm On Jan 19, 2016
Most countries are doing the 'to your tents o Israel, now see to your own house, o son of Jesse'


Immigrant laws may crack cos this purge will still expand the hole with its snout
Re: "Muslim Women Must Learn English Or Be Deported" - British PM. by kodded(m): 7:43pm On Jan 19, 2016
dearpreye:

Fattest lie ever.
cheesy

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Re: "Muslim Women Must Learn English Or Be Deported" - British PM. by Excuzeme: 7:48pm On Jan 19, 2016
GreenWhiteGreen:
But they can recite quran from A to Z. We also have them in naija. Learning quran instead of going to school to have education. Mumu.

[b]If "English" was the problem, then we wont have those "British-born Terrorist" who speak fluent Britico-English with correct accent! undecided

Cameron is deluded and desperate on many fronts.

Also, speaking English does not equate "integration"!

People can only integrate of the host community wilfully decide to open-up and welcome them.... not by stereotyping them!

Having said that, Muslims going to the U.K need to learn the "Western way of Life" or go to an Islamic country like Saudi Arabia[/b] undecided undecided
Re: "Muslim Women Must Learn English Or Be Deported" - British PM. by kaboninc(m): 7:54pm On Jan 19, 2016
dearpreye:


Another lie.



Hahahaha

Preye, is that the only thing you'd say?

I no wan disgrace myself for this bus say I dey laugh

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