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Re: If Man Evolved From Monkeys Why Do Monkeys Still Exist? by vooks: 4:45pm On Jan 23, 2016 |
CoolUsername:Good evening my broda, I'm on the side of reason |
Re: If Man Evolved From Monkeys Why Do Monkeys Still Exist? by bqlekan(m): 4:52pm On Jan 23, 2016 |
johnydon22: Thanks.. maybe I should look deeper, but most of these theories have been disproved (Darwinism). No scientifical/laboratory test evidence supporting this for the past 150 years. I suppose we are still evolving?. Well like you said, lets watch how this unfolds.. for me, I won't believe in evolution until it is perfect. 1 Like |
Re: If Man Evolved From Monkeys Why Do Monkeys Still Exist? by CoolUsername: 4:53pm On Jan 23, 2016 |
vooks: Albinism is not evidence for evolution because it is not an inheritable trait. And it's completely disingenuous to accept speciation but not evolution. Tell me, how are you able to reconcile such intellectual dishonesty? |
Re: If Man Evolved From Monkeys Why Do Monkeys Still Exist? by vooks: 4:56pm On Jan 23, 2016 |
CoolUsername:Albinism is not inheritable? How is it acquired, bleaching? A m0ron and an idiot rolled into one |
Re: If Man Evolved From Monkeys Why Do Monkeys Still Exist? by CoolUsername: 4:58pm On Jan 23, 2016 |
vooks: If you don't take a stand, it would be impossible to challenge each other's views. |
Re: If Man Evolved From Monkeys Why Do Monkeys Still Exist? by johnydon22(m): 4:59pm On Jan 23, 2016 |
bqlekan:In the scientific community evolution remains the most wildly accepted theory on the origin of species and there are tons of evidence used in support of evolutionary theory.. Evolution simply means development and it proposes this in a very long duration chain of millions of years.. So you can say yes but in a nano-change mode which means very slowly. I am of the opinion that doubt drives study and this is true with science... So that position is a good one... 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: If Man Evolved From Monkeys Why Do Monkeys Still Exist? by vooks: 4:59pm On Jan 23, 2016 |
CoolUsername:Reason is my stand, what's your problem negro? |
Re: If Man Evolved From Monkeys Why Do Monkeys Still Exist? by bqlekan(m): 5:05pm On Jan 23, 2016 |
johnydon22:Would have loved to go further on this.. let's leave it for the evolutionists. How i wish I can be here for 2-3 million years. |
Re: If Man Evolved From Monkeys Why Do Monkeys Still Exist? by CoolUsername: 5:06pm On Jan 23, 2016 |
vooks: Ok, I admit that I should have phrased that better. Albinism is not usually observed in the parents of affected offspring. As I was saying, you believe that animals can cross from specie to another but we cannot observe gradual change in animals among a given population? That doesn't make any sense. |
Re: If Man Evolved From Monkeys Why Do Monkeys Still Exist? by ichommy(m): 5:06pm On Jan 23, 2016 |
allanphash7: [b]Look at the summary diagram below, a summary cladogram of ape relationships (from Benton's Vertebrate Palaeontology; italics are extinct apes). Everything from node B and on is an ape - a member of the Hominoidea. This is includes extinct forms (Proconsul, Dryopithecus, Australopithecus, etc.) and extant forms (Homo, Pan, Hylobatidae, etc.). As you can see, more basal organisms do not necessarily have to be extinct. Gibbons still exist despite the existence of the more derived orang-utans. If Proconsul were still living today, this cladogram wouldn't change. In other words, evolution doesn't replace older forms. What happens is cladogenesis: Proconsul split off from an ancestral hominoid population and evolved its own way. The last common ancestor of the hylobatids did the same, as did Kenyapithecus, all the way to Homo. The extinction of Proconsul, Kenyapithecus, and all the Homo species isn't something that's automatically mandated by evolution, they're events that happen due to changing environmental circumstances. Proconsul and Kenyapithecus died out because of climate changes, as did most Homo species. They didn't die out because Homo sapiens suddenly evolved. Consider it this way: every branch on here is a species or group of species in their own right. They're not stepping stones towards some goal - one can invert Australopithecus's and Homo's positions on this diagram and it would be just as valid.[/b] ********************************************************************************************************** "Pierolapithecus catalaunicus, shown here in an artist's conception, was an ancient ape that may have been the last common ancestor of all great apes and humans. Discovered in Catalonia, Spain, the fossil of Pierolapithecus catalaunicus is roughly 13 million years old. "Scientists believe that the newfound species's stiff lower spine and other special adaptations for climbing link this species to modern great apes." 2 Likes 2 Shares
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Re: If Man Evolved From Monkeys Why Do Monkeys Still Exist? by CoolUsername: 5:09pm On Jan 23, 2016 |
vooks:Just answer the question in a straightforward manner. Are you: 1. A creationist? 2. A Christian creationist? 3. Or a Young Earth creationist. Or maybe you don't actually know. |
Re: If Man Evolved From Monkeys Why Do Monkeys Still Exist? by vooks: 5:14pm On Jan 23, 2016 |
CoolUsername:As soon as you convince me its relevance here I will gladly do it. Do something worthwhile, focus on the wisdom of my posts...refute it if you can or zip it. |
Re: If Man Evolved From Monkeys Why Do Monkeys Still Exist? by johnydon22(m): 5:16pm On Jan 23, 2016 |
bqlekan:There are many things to learn and know, we only need a pinch of doubt and replace belief with study... 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: If Man Evolved From Monkeys Why Do Monkeys Still Exist? by Nobody: 5:17pm On Jan 23, 2016 |
vooks:Well put. |
Re: If Man Evolved From Monkeys Why Do Monkeys Still Exist? by vooks: 5:20pm On Jan 23, 2016 |
CoolUsername:You are still a bloody m0ron. Does the fact that you can't 'observe' it mean that it is not inherited? As I was saying, you believe that animals can cross from specie to another but we cannot observe gradual change in animals among a given population?First, Species is really a vague term without precise limits. Secondly, could you please DEFINE evolution as you understand it before we proceed? |
Re: If Man Evolved From Monkeys Why Do Monkeys Still Exist? by vooks: 5:25pm On Jan 23, 2016 |
[size=1pt] ichommy:[/size] My broda, I minimize your wonderful lecture to ask a very simple question; What else other than homology links these real and their imagined ancestors? |
Re: If Man Evolved From Monkeys Why Do Monkeys Still Exist? by CoolUsername: 5:35pm On Jan 23, 2016 |
vooks: I'll let this one slide, pvssy. First, Species is really a vague term without precise limits. Secondly, could you please DEFINE evolution as you understand it before we proceed?[/quote] In animals, the specie line is usually drawn when interbreeding cannot occur between two groups. Evolution is a process whereby inheritable traits gradually change over course of generations within a given population. |
Re: If Man Evolved From Monkeys Why Do Monkeys Still Exist? by Nobody: 6:30pm On Jan 23, 2016 |
You can never understand until the time of your death, where all your questions would be answered. Some things are just beyond human intelligence & comprehension. I wonder why people argue unnecessarily. Traducianism, creationism & the theory of evolution all sound like tales by moonlight to me though. I believe in the existence of a supreme force(s)(a higher intelligence), not the god Xtians & moors place their faith in. If you believe in Charles Darwin's dross, you are indeed very very lost & cannot reason. How did the smallest atom come into existence? You think something as complex as the human brain was a by-product of evolution? What about the information contained in DNA & RNA. Did they simply happen by random luck or blind chance. If yes, then what you mean is that you can throw a stick of dynamite into a printing factory & come out with the Nigerian Constitution. I think not. Evolution is just the most logical explanation. It's very far from the truth. Like I said, just be patient till the hour you breathe your last..argggh 1 Like |
Re: If Man Evolved From Monkeys Why Do Monkeys Still Exist? by vooks: 7:14pm On Jan 23, 2016 |
CoolUsername:Good night sir |
Re: If Man Evolved From Monkeys Why Do Monkeys Still Exist? by wiegraf: 7:16pm On Jan 23, 2016 |
Op, if no one asked, allow me to be the first. As god made man from mud, why is there still mud? 5 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: If Man Evolved From Monkeys Why Do Monkeys Still Exist? by jayriginal: 7:30pm On Jan 23, 2016 |
Nubian113: Who's going to pay for the drink you made me spill? |
Re: If Man Evolved From Monkeys Why Do Monkeys Still Exist? by jayriginal: 7:33pm On Jan 23, 2016 |
wiegraf: As God made woman from bone, why are there still bones (there are boners though) . 2 Likes |
Re: If Man Evolved From Monkeys Why Do Monkeys Still Exist? by Nobody: 7:51pm On Jan 23, 2016 |
bqlekan: Personally? Hell yeah lol pun intended in my opinion my children's children will be super human, extra ordinary, the 2.2 version if you like... But that's my belief anyway. How are you? |
Re: If Man Evolved From Monkeys Why Do Monkeys Still Exist? by bqlekan(m): 8:42pm On Jan 23, 2016 |
Nubian113:Hehe more like the man from Krypton.. lol at version 2.2.. I'm okay.. hope you good? Wait lemme come have a cup of tea with you... |
Re: If Man Evolved From Monkeys Why Do Monkeys Still Exist? by Nobody: 11:43am On Jan 25, 2016 |
jayriginal: Sarcasm |
Re: If Man Evolved From Monkeys Why Do Monkeys Still Exist? by jayriginal: 12:03pm On Jan 25, 2016 |
Nubian113: I'm not sure if you mean you were being sarcastic or if you think I was being sarcastic. For what its worth, I found that line very funny. You still owe me a drink. |
Re: If Man Evolved From Monkeys Why Do Monkeys Still Exist? by Nobody: 12:33pm On Jan 25, 2016 |
bqlekan: Ha the kettle is on bby |
Re: If Man Evolved From Monkeys Why Do Monkeys Still Exist? by Nobody: 12:34pm On Jan 25, 2016 |
jayriginal: I meant you being sarcy Lol would a cuppa do? |
Re: If Man Evolved From Monkeys Why Do Monkeys Still Exist? by urahara(m): 1:45pm On Jan 25, 2016 |
HCpaul: Think twice before displaying how ignorant you are. Evolution has nothing to do with atheism. There are some few atheist that don't accept evolution just as they are atheist that believe in a flat earth. The only thing atheist have in common is that they lack the belief in the existence of God. In this 21st century I wonder why some people still dispute the theory of evolution while some Christian denominations fit it into their dogma so easily. 2 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: If Man Evolved From Monkeys Why Do Monkeys Still Exist? by urahara(m): 1:51pm On Jan 25, 2016 |
CoolUsername: Talk about the nylon eating bacteria 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: If Man Evolved From Monkeys Why Do Monkeys Still Exist? by KingEbukasBlog(m): 5:02am On Feb 04, 2016 |
vooks: Noticed you've been missing in action . Hope sir that you are alright |
Re: If Man Evolved From Monkeys Why Do Monkeys Still Exist? by cloudgoddess(f): 5:40am On Feb 04, 2016 |
Johny already said it but I'll elaborate a little. Evolution can occur along different paths, divergent evolution being one of the most common. This is when multiple species arise from a pre-existing species, due to natural selection, genetic drift/migration of some of the population, catastrophic events that change the environment, etc. Modern humans and chimpanzees share a common ancestral species. Phylogenetics is the study of these genetic relationships, and phylogenetic trees allow us to view them clearly. Each point between two branches is where the previous species split into two species due to the factors I mentioned above: [img]http://evolution.berkeley.edu/evolibrary/images/evograms/hominid_evo.jpg[/img] Each species shown on a phylogenetic tree represents the entire population of that species as it existed in the past - not an individual. So there was no point where the primate ancestor morphed into a human during its life span, or gave birth to a modern human. Evolution occurs via small changes in genetically inherited traits, passed on from generation to generation. Hence the large timespans required for these changes to become obvious. 2 Likes 2 Shares |
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