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Re: How An Office Cleaner Outshined 6 'graduates' Today by phykiesexy: 3:13pm On Jan 29, 2016
monacobull:
Let me make a few things clear.

1. This is NOT gnld or whatever you call it company.
2. I will assume those of you asking for the company name simply want to try and apply, that's fine, but i do not entertain rudeness so i wont mention the name.
3. We have enough resources for proper advertisement including via linkedin but it wasn't used in this case. Everyone interviewed was based on just referrals. It just an internship role so why spend so much on linkedin.
4. 80% of comments i see make me quite saddened as to the mentality of today's youths.





U c, everybody interviewed was based on referrals. Not that dey applied and got interviewed. Some of d people referred am sure re relations or friends of people working in d company. If ur company had posted d job online for so many people to get to c it, am sure ur company wld have had a hard time picking d best. Some Nigerians Graduate are very good. U people limited ur choice wid ur own hands. Deir is a possibility d interviewer had a discussion wid d cleaner before d interview commenced or that was just his lucky day. But my stand on dis is, their is no way an outsider would know more dan someone who has been working wid an organisation for a period. Ur company Dem selves reduced d chance of Dem getting d best out of d best. Next time wen ur company has a vacant post n put it on jobberman, hot Nigerian jobs etc den u come up wid Nigerian graduates talk, den am sure I and others wld belief u.

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Re: How An Office Cleaner Outshined 6 'graduates' Today by Nobody: 3:14pm On Jan 29, 2016
monacobull:
Let me start off by saying at this point i believe Nigerian graduates have a lot of work to do. Its taking a lot of effort for me to contain the level of disappointment im currently feeling towards our university leavers. I work in a multinational company and i have had the chance to partake in the interview process of some roles the company advertised. Most of the time im usually appalled at the errors and goofs i see on CV's. So let me get to the main story.

Six graduates came into the office this morning to interview for an internship position. Which was going to pay a basic salary and also some nice commissions. All the interviewees were very disappointing despite the very easy questions which was for a very simple role. In fact none of them showed enough quality to half consider them for the job. undecided

After the last person left, I and my colleague had already given up and hoped to do a fresh advert for the role. But 1 other person that was present at the interview was a senior staff from our foreign headquarters. And he suddenly suggested that we give the office cleaner a chance. At first i thought he was saying it out of frustration but this guy was damn serious. Long story short, we called the cleaner in and he handled our questions well and even scaled through 80% of the objection statements we threw at him! Whats more is that this guy isn't exactly educated and he even stammers! WTF !!!! Agreed he might have had better answers because he knows some more about the company having worked with us for a while, but still on still!...to outshine 6 graduates!...ah. shocked

Finally finally we have decided to take him on a trial role and give him the required training. Im still shocked beyond belief.

Naija graduates, please get your shit together. angry angry angry



don't be shock mushroom lecturers in kangaroo universities doting the landscape of Nigeria will surly produce such na najia bet ,davido baby mama pining dey rain for najia youths

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Re: How An Office Cleaner Outshined 6 'graduates' Today by senatorken01(m): 3:14pm On Jan 29, 2016
monacobull:
Let me start off by saying at this point i believe Nigerian graduates have a lot of work to do. Its taking a lot of effort for me to contain the level of disappointment im currently feeling towards our university leavers. I work in a multinational company and i have had the chance to partake in the interview process of some roles the company advertised. Most of the time im usually appalled at the errors and goofs i see on CV's. So let me get to the main story.

Six graduates came into the office this morning to interview for an internship position. Which was going to pay a basic salary and also some nice commissions. All the interviewees were very disappointing despite the very easy questions which was for a very simple role. In fact none of them showed enough quality to half consider them for the job. undecided

After the last person left, I and my colleague had already given up and hoped to do a fresh advert for the role. But 1 other person that was present at the interview was a senior staff from our foreign headquarters. And he suddenly suggested that we give the office cleaner a chance. At first i thought he was saying it out of frustration but this guy was damn serious. Long story short, we called the cleaner in and he handled our questions well and even scaled through 80% of the objection statements we threw at him! Whats more is that this guy isn't exactly educated and he even stammers! WTF !!!! Agreed he might have had better answers because he knows some more about the company having worked with us for a while, but still on still!...to outshine 6 graduates!...ah. shocked

Finally finally we have decided to take him on a trial role and give him the required training. Im still shocked beyond belief.

Naija graduates, please get your shit together. angry angry angry



Pls Monaco bull, kindly assist me with a job in your company. I need to move up on my cadre bro.
Re: How An Office Cleaner Outshined 6 'graduates' Today by danduchi(m): 3:15pm On Jan 29, 2016
PubLlcEnemy:



Well like you said he had better answers becos he has worked for your company long enough. So what else do you expect? You that is "Mr know it all" will find yourself in some organisations and fields and see how dumb and daft you are when they ask you some questions. Why didn't you ask them questions relating to their fields of study? I am sure when you too were a graduate you didn't even know these questions you are asking them.
always quick to open those smelling mouth in criticism.
Why don't u ask the OP what's the question that was asked before all this ranting about

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Re: How An Office Cleaner Outshined 6 'graduates' Today by monacobull: 3:17pm On Jan 29, 2016
philomental:


THIS SOUNDS LIKE A "COCK AND BULL" STORY TO ME.

BESIDES YOUR WRITE UP ON THIS POST IS TERRIBLE, for instance you write "im" instead of I'm or I am; also

Its taking a lot of effort for me to contain INSTEAD OF It's taking a lot.... or It is taking a lot....

As the first person singular you are suppose to say "I" but more often you write "i" instead.

Therefore I conclude that if your story is true and you are a graduate too working in "whatever" multi-national you claim, then YOU NEED TO WORK ON YOURSELF TOO.

Sorry i was a bit impatient while typing and did not properly edit. I always work on myself. That should be basic human behavior don't u think?

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Re: How An Office Cleaner Outshined 6 'graduates' Today by monacobull: 3:17pm On Jan 29, 2016
phykiesexy:






U c, everybody interviewed was based on referrals. Not that dey applied and got interviewed. Some of d people referred am sure re relations or friends of people working in d company. If ur company had posted d job online for so many people to get to c it, am sure ur company wld have had a hard time picking d best. Some Nigerians Graduate are very good. U people limited ur choice wid ur own hands. Deir is a possibility d interviewer had a discussion wid d cleaner before d interview commenced or that was just his lucky day. But my stand on dis is, their is no way an outsider would know more dan someone who has been working wid an organisation for a period. Ur company Dem selves reduced d chance of Dem getting d best out of d best. Next time wen ur company has a vacant post n put it on jobberman, hot Nigerian jobs etc den u come up wid Nigerian graduates talk, den am sure I and others wld belief u.

Noted. Thanks.
Re: How An Office Cleaner Outshined 6 'graduates' Today by gemale(m): 3:19pm On Jan 29, 2016
significance and moral lesson- paper qualification/good grades isnt always = employability. Dont blame graduates only; blame d 9ja educational system 4 its "la cram well, la pour well, la pass well, la forget well" modus operandi also.

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Re: How An Office Cleaner Outshined 6 'graduates' Today by Weedcrusher: 3:20pm On Jan 29, 2016
Honestly speaking, you won't know the magnitude of the rot until you study outside the country

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Re: How An Office Cleaner Outshined 6 'graduates' Today by frisky2good(m): 3:20pm On Jan 29, 2016
Have you ever hear "book no be sense?"

monacobull:
Let me start off by saying at this point i believe Nigerian graduates have a lot of work to do. Its taking a lot of effort for me to contain the level of disappointment im currently feeling towards our university leavers. I work in a multinational company and i have had the chance to partake in the interview process of some roles the company advertised. Most of the time im usually appalled at the errors and goofs i see on CV's. So let me get to the main story.

Six graduates came into the office this morning to interview for an internship position. Which was going to pay a basic salary and also some nice commissions. All the interviewees were very disappointing despite the very easy questions which was for a very simple role. In fact none of them showed enough quality to half consider them for the job. undecided

After the last person left, I and my colleague had already given up and hoped to do a fresh advert for the role. But 1 other person that was present at the interview was a senior staff from our foreign headquarters. And he suddenly suggested that we give the office cleaner a chance. At first i thought he was saying it out of frustration but this guy was damn serious. Long story short, we called the cleaner in and he handled our questions well and even scaled through 80% of the objection statements we threw at him! Whats more is that this guy isn't exactly educated and he even stammers! WTF !!!! Agreed he might have had better answers because he knows some more about the company having worked with us for a while, but still on still!...to outshine 6 graduates!...ah. shocked

Finally finally we have decided to take him on a trial role and give him the required training. Im still shocked beyond belief.

Naija graduates, please get your shit together. angry angry angry



Re: How An Office Cleaner Outshined 6 'graduates' Today by pdpchangeapc(m): 3:21pm On Jan 29, 2016
I wonder the kind of job you interviewed graduates for and you still had to think of giving the same job to a cleaner if not gnld, forever etc. I dont believe that job is really meant for graduates in the first instance. Its a kind of job that Secondary School leavers can do. My opinion though.

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Re: How An Office Cleaner Outshined 6 'graduates' Today by Nobody: 3:21pm On Jan 29, 2016
Seriously, I agree 100% I handle recruitment in a hotel and I hardly employ BSC graduates cos they have just air of arrogance to offer nothing to show for years of being in school. Most OND/HND graduates communicate better are are hands on and willing to learn.

Dont just rely on your certificate I'm a BSC holder but I'm hands on. Now the job world need people to do more, be willing to learn and develop yourselves with new skills this would help people stand out.
My 2 kobo input.


monacobull:
Let me start off by saying at this point i believe Nigerian graduates have a lot of work to do. Its taking a lot of effort for me to contain the level of disappointment im currently feeling towards our university leavers. I work in a multinational company and i have had the chance to partake in the interview process of some roles the company advertised. Most of the time im usually appalled at the errors and goofs i see on CV's. So let me get to the main story.

Six graduates came into the office this morning to interview for an internship position. Which was going to pay a basic salary and also some nice commissions. All the interviewees were very disappointing despite the very easy questions which was for a very simple role. In fact none of them showed enough quality to half consider them for the job. undecided

After the last person left, I and my colleague had already given up and hoped to do a fresh advert for the role. But 1 other person that was present at the interview was a senior staff from our foreign headquarters. And he suddenly suggested that we give the office cleaner a chance. At first i thought he was saying it out of frustration but this guy was damn serious. Long story short, we called the cleaner in and he handled our questions well and even scaled through 80% of the objection statements we threw at him! Whats more is that this guy isn't exactly educated and he even stammers! WTF !!!! Agreed he might have had better answers because he knows some more about the company having worked with us for a while, but still on still!...to outshine 6 graduates!...ah. shocked

Finally finally we have decided to take him on a trial role and give him the required training. Im still shocked beyond belief.

Naija graduates, please get your shit together. angry angry angry



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Re: How An Office Cleaner Outshined 6 'graduates' Today by monacobull: 3:24pm On Jan 29, 2016
I am receiving a few email requests which i guess is about interest in possible or existing vacancies.

You can send CV's to my personal email: racoon8995@gmail.com.

The interview which held today was in Abuja but there is another possibly coming up in Lagos next week.

I will be glad to forward and follow up with your CV's.

Will do my best to reply each mail and give you a heads up on the role. We are one. Lets carry each other smiley

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Re: How An Office Cleaner Outshined 6 'graduates' Today by Spidermon: 3:24pm On Jan 29, 2016
So you are judging millions of job seekers from the few that messed up at your interview??
You amuse me sir.
By the way, I would go out on a limb and guess your company isn't based in sciences....coz there is no way a cleaner would best a scientist in a interview. Nigeria is not yet that bad.
And lastly, I wasn't among those interviewed.

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Re: How An Office Cleaner Outshined 6 'graduates' Today by viktor01(m): 3:25pm On Jan 29, 2016
Regardless of your grades in school, their are some reality questions you would be asked in an interview about a job and you will just go blank.
That is natural. same happened to me when I first got to my office, everything was just so abstract to me including the jargons but with time, I became better at it.
spare us this your trash mr. omnisciece

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Re: How An Office Cleaner Outshined 6 'graduates' Today by Achilles2(m): 3:25pm On Jan 29, 2016
When I tell people that being a graduate doesn't make you educated, the feel insulted.

I am not a graduate but at 32 years of age i was made a regional manager of a multinational company .
I have people with higher levels of education and nationality working under me. Your level of education means nothing if you are not mentally and emotional matured

Whenever we conduct interviews, the level of stupidity displayed by the so called graduates is enough to make one commit suicide.

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Re: How An Office Cleaner Outshined 6 'graduates' Today by murphybo(m): 3:25pm On Jan 29, 2016
The only thing I see here is that you guys are looking for someone with experience in the position that is vaccant, and because you did not advertise only recommendation was made for you how on earth did you want to get the desired result? Now that the cleaner has answered the questions based on practical experience he had gathered in the company does not mean those that came didint know what they were doing. God has blessed the cleaner and that does not imply that he's better than the guys bbeause, I really believe in practical experience rather than theory. God bless Nigerian youth.

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Re: How An Office Cleaner Outshined 6 'graduates' Today by Nobody: 3:26pm On Jan 29, 2016
Certificate is useless when the person holding it passed through school without allowing school to pass through him.

I know lots of guys who never saw the 4 walls of a university but they are millionaires and have lots of people working under them, the craze about certificate in Nigeria is what i don't understand.

Education is good and sweet but allow education to pass through you than you passing through it.

Its well.

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Re: How An Office Cleaner Outshined 6 'graduates' Today by niyi123: 3:27pm On Jan 29, 2016
monacobull:
Let me start off by saying at this point i believe Nigerian graduates have a lot of work to do. Its taking a lot of effort for me to contain the level of disappointment im currently feeling towards our university leavers. I work in a multinational company and i have had the chance to partake in the interview process of some roles the company advertised. Most of the time im usually appalled at the errors and goofs i see on CV's. So let me get to the main story.

Six graduates came into the office this morning to interview for an internship position. Which was going to pay a basic salary and also some nice commissions. All the interviewees were very disappointing despite the very easy questions which was for a very simple role. In fact none of them showed enough quality to half consider them for the job. undecided

After the last person left, I and my colleague had already given up and hoped to do a fresh advert for the role. But 1 other person that was present at the interview was a senior staff from our foreign headquarters. And he suddenly suggested that we give the office cleaner a chance. At first i thought he was saying it out of frustration but this guy was damn serious. Long story short, we called the cleaner in and he handled our questions well and even scaled through 80% of the objection statements we threw at him! Whats more is that this guy isn't exactly educated and he even stammers! WTF !!!! Agreed he might have had better answers because he knows some more about the company having worked with us for a while, but still on still!...to outshine 6 graduates!...ah. shocked

Finally finally we have decided to take him on a trial role and give him the required training. Im still shocked beyond belief.

Naija graduates, please get your shit together. angry angry angry

Most of them don't have time for educative activities, but their mind are always occupied with anything that involves sex




Re: How An Office Cleaner Outshined 6 'graduates' Today by Achilles2(m): 3:28pm On Jan 29, 2016
Most graduates are nothing but glorified illiterates

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Re: How An Office Cleaner Outshined 6 'graduates' Today by Nobody: 3:29pm On Jan 29, 2016
Guy you dey vex o...abi you go for the interview?
PubLlcEnemy:



Well like you said he had better answers becos he has worked for your company long enough. So what else do you expect? You that is "Mr know it all" will find yourself in some organisations and fields and see how dumb and daft you are when they ask you some questions. Why didn't you ask them questions relating to their fields of study? I am sure when you too were a graduate you didn't even know these questions you are asking them.
always quick to open those smelling mouth in criticism.

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Re: How An Office Cleaner Outshined 6 'graduates' Today by Nobody: 3:30pm On Jan 29, 2016
MadCow1:



This your story sounds fishy..

On what premise did he decide to give the office cleaner a chance?

Why stop at the cleaner, why not the drivers as well, security and co?


If its true, then this is one of those stranger than fiction type stories.. If its not, pfft!
I have seen a coy employ one of their cleaners and a driver become manager after his boss left the job and recommended him for his job.

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Re: How An Office Cleaner Outshined 6 'graduates' Today by ofuregbe(f): 3:30pm On Jan 29, 2016
what was the question sef?
Re: How An Office Cleaner Outshined 6 'graduates' Today by hyperflex(m): 3:31pm On Jan 29, 2016
@monacobull lol I understand your perspective. I also understand the perspective of those who antagonize you. For them their is anger at the job provision system and employers. As I write this I am writing a cover letter for an interview tomorrow. Sitting here wondering what questions they wld throw @ me. As desperate as I am for a job there is no guarantee of getting it. Needless to say I am searching for info on the company n what they do so I can be ready. For the graduates u interviewed they probably didn't come prepared or the questions were just too overwhelming. I have had a blank memory before during an interview. You av no blame tho. Ur the boss reppin a system. Its the graduates who needs to check themselves. For the cleaner he had a headstart. U can't even use that to judge the other guys. Right now I am trying to address a letter to a company. No serious info about the company on the net. So I decided to use "the manager". I am waiting for the human resource to tell me its not right tomorrow. Plus I like multinational companies can u DM me the name. I can apply now

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Re: How An Office Cleaner Outshined 6 'graduates' Today by elkonS: 3:32pm On Jan 29, 2016
DonUjay:
'Since the Hunter has learnt to shoot without missing, the Birds have learnt to fly without Perching'. in other words, since the Labour market is all about Grades Nigerian students have devised various means of Graduating with Good results without acquiring knowledge in the Process

GBAM.....my brother ....u are so spot on...I feel like giving u a hug..... I'm a final year student and I can attest to dat....
Re: How An Office Cleaner Outshined 6 'graduates' Today by tuzeriouz(m): 3:33pm On Jan 29, 2016
monacobull:
Let me start off by saying at this point i believe Nigerian graduates have a lot of work to do. Its taking a lot of effort for me to contain the level of disappointment im currently feeling towards our university leavers. I work in a multinational company and i have had the chance to partake in the interview process of some roles the company advertised. Most of the time im usually appalled at the errors and goofs i see on CV's. So let me get to the main story.

Six graduates came into the office this morning to interview for an internship position. Which was going to pay a basic salary and also some nice commissions. All the interviewees were very disappointing despite the very easy questions which was for a very simple role. In fact none of them showed enough quality to half consider them for the job. undecided

After the last person left, I and my colleague had already given up and hoped to do a fresh advert for the role. But 1 other person that was present at the interview was a senior staff from our foreign headquarters. And he suddenly suggested that we give the office cleaner a chance. At first i thought he was saying it out of frustration but this guy was damn serious. Long story short, we called the cleaner in and he handled our questions well and even scaled through 80% of the objection statements we threw at him! Whats more is that this guy isn't exactly educated and he even stammers! WTF !!!! Agreed he might have had better answers because he knows some more about the company having worked with us for a while, but still on still!...to outshine 6 graduates!...ah. shocked

Finally finally we have decided to take him on a trial role and give him the required training. Im still shocked beyond belief.

Naija graduates, please get your shit together. angry angry angry





ur advert was not properly channeled. staff of ur MNCs recommended doll candidates to be absorbed via the backdoor.
Re: How An Office Cleaner Outshined 6 'graduates' Today by zurine(f): 3:34pm On Jan 29, 2016
HMM
Re: How An Office Cleaner Outshined 6 'graduates' Today by Jbuster: 3:35pm On Jan 29, 2016
Op why can't you upload those questions you put across to them before we start castigating and criticizing them.
Re: How An Office Cleaner Outshined 6 'graduates' Today by UlqU3(m): 3:38pm On Jan 29, 2016
monacobull:


LOL. I tire o.

Hi, please where is your company based?
Re: How An Office Cleaner Outshined 6 'graduates' Today by Jarus(m): 3:39pm On Jan 29, 2016
monacobull:
Let me start off by saying at this point i believe Nigerian graduates have a lot of work to do. Its taking a lot of effort for me to contain the level of disappointment im currently feeling towards our university leavers. I work in a multinational company and i have had the chance to partake in the interview process of some roles the company advertised. Most of the time im usually appalled at the errors and goofs i see on CV's. So let me get to the main story.

Six graduates came into the office this morning to interview for an internship position. Which was going to pay a basic salary and also some nice commissions. All the interviewees were very disappointing despite the very easy questions which was for a very simple role. In fact none of them showed enough quality to half consider them for the job. undecided

After the last person left, I and my colleague had already given up and hoped to do a fresh advert for the role. But 1 other person that was present at the interview was a senior staff from our foreign headquarters. And he suddenly suggested that we give the office cleaner a chance. At first i thought he was saying it out of frustration but this guy was damn serious. Long story short, we called the cleaner in and he handled our questions well and even scaled through 80% of the objection statements we threw at him! Whats more is that this guy isn't exactly educated and he even stammers! WTF !!!! Agreed he might have had better answers because he knows some more about the company having worked with us for a while, but still on still!...to outshine 6 graduates!...ah. shocked

Finally finally we have decided to take him on a trial role and give him the required training. Im still shocked beyond belief.

Naija graduates, please get your shit together. angry angry angry




The toilet cleaner in my office will write better English than this, I'm afraid.

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Re: How An Office Cleaner Outshined 6 'graduates' Today by MadCow1: 3:40pm On Jan 29, 2016
Angelberry:

I have seen a coy employ one of their cleaners and a driver become manager after his boss left the job and recommended him for his job.


I don't doubt you..

But in the case of the OP's story, it came out of nowhere. the recommendation to try the cleaner was raised by an out of station employee (Someone from a different branch). If the story was such that the cleaner has been interacting with the guy for a period and the guy had studied the cleaner, then I can understand.

But again, stranger things have happened..
Re: How An Office Cleaner Outshined 6 'graduates' Today by Jwelee: 3:42pm On Jan 29, 2016
Some times such selection might be based on man no man.
There are very intelligent graduates who even came out with a pass or even a third class.
But cannot be taken because they do not have the expected buttons to press.
I think it is high time companies/Establishment stopped opting for graduates with first class only.
Anyways, kudos to the cleaner. I think he was only able to because he is used to the office operations, environment and faces.
I kindly apply o, statistician internship/economist. I have a 2.2. I dey gidigba.

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Re: How An Office Cleaner Outshined 6 'graduates' Today by toprealman: 3:43pm On Jan 29, 2016
monacobull:


Well as i said im not in HR but was simply there as the hired person would work under my division. I do have to admit on the naija mentality part. I learnt a lot today.
I'm glad you guys gave him a chance....hopefully, he won't disappoint. Well done!

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