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Re: Why Yoruba Prefer Alliance With North – Adefuye by explorer250(m): 6:44am On Feb 14, 2016
then what are we doing in the same? country

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Re: Why Yoruba Prefer Alliance With North – Adefuye by WhoRUDeceiving: 6:47am On Feb 14, 2016
poshestmina:
Any region which does not cooperate with Yoruba people does so at its own peril. I have not seen any region that does not want to associate with Yoruba. They might be afraid that we are strong and powerful, they still want to associate with us.

I find this sentence annoying and lame
Better to have a known enemy than a backstabbing two faced 'friend'

Hope you enjoy what you all voted for, Posterity has not even started you

Its a lie. Zik tried to cooperate in 1965 and Ojuwku released Awolowo and see what happened to the Igbo man. Gej cooperated and did all he could for the SW and see what happened to the Ijaw man.

The Yoruba are only interested in fulfilling and forming alliance with those who will promote and protect their interest, no matter how unethical, no matter if there's a betrayal, no matter what the cost is. Yes, it is their right to safeguard their interest, especially since their region lacks much resources and the people generally are not serious about real nation building or development.
However the above OP should not infer that aligning with Yoruba is noble or that Yoruba people would protect other's interest because history has shown it to be quit contrary.

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Re: Why Yoruba Prefer Alliance With North – Adefuye by ckmayoca: 6:49am On Feb 14, 2016
Now jonathan is igbo and tomorrow now he will be south south (ijaw). If ijaw ruled and marginalised u why associating it with SE?

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Re: Why Yoruba Prefer Alliance With North – Adefuye by ckmayoca: 6:51am On Feb 14, 2016
PRXPERT:
Even their elders don't speak the truth! Just look at how he is jumping from one topic to another. What a very disjointed discussion! I didn't know when I got to the last page.. hypocrites

He mentioned 6 regions but if GEJ if from SS why dragging SE into their hitch and still trade thier resources.

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Re: Why Yoruba Prefer Alliance With North – Adefuye by CHIEFCLETUS: 6:54am On Feb 14, 2016
Pheals:
When we continue like this .... Do u expect Nigeria to move ? Move forward to where?

You and who continue like this

Umu Bfr
Kwenu!

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Re: Why Yoruba Prefer Alliance With North – Adefuye by huptin(m): 6:55am On Feb 14, 2016
No region can afford not to associate with thebYorubas, pure and simple. Their continued existence' prosperity and progress depends on the Yoruba's. The Yoruba's know this that's why they are not moved by threats or stupid innuendos. When the biafrans threatened to invade Lagos with their stupid protest, all Ambode had to do was destroy a few shops, they got the message and all thoughts of biafran protest were promptly buried.

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Re: Why Yoruba Prefer Alliance With North – Adefuye by orisa37: 7:49am On Feb 14, 2016
Very good. Let's get started.
Re: Why Yoruba Prefer Alliance With North – Adefuye by orisa37: 7:54am On Feb 14, 2016
Please listen for generations yet unborn. And we know that the truth is always bitter.
Re: Why Yoruba Prefer Alliance With North – Adefuye by orisa37: 7:59am On Feb 14, 2016
But beware of bokoharam, Shiites,Sunnis Saksaky etc etc.

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Re: Why Yoruba Prefer Alliance With North – Adefuye by WhoRUDeceiving: 8:05am On Feb 14, 2016
huptin:
No region can afford not to associate with thebYorubas, pure and simple. Their continued existence' prosperity and progress depends on the Yoruba's. The Yoruba's know this that's why they are not moved by threats or stupid innuendos. When the biafrans threatened to invade Lagos with their stupid protest, all Ambode had to do was destroy a few shops, they got the message and all thoughts of biafran protest were promptly buried.

Yorubas not moved by threats? Ambode destroying some quack outdoor spaces called shops? I'm sure Abiola and Diya would laugh at such silly talk. If at any, Yoruba people have for the last 150 years been the most moved by threats and talks of threats, which even the English found out upon their swift military camp over Oduduwa.

Let's not play games here

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Re: Why Yoruba Prefer Alliance With North – Adefuye by orisa37: 8:07am On Feb 14, 2016
And you are judging without actually examining the two sides as Adefuye did.

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Re: Why Yoruba Prefer Alliance With North – Adefuye by tiger28: 8:09am On Feb 14, 2016
PRXPERT:
Even their elders don't speak the truth! Just look at how he is jumping from one topic to another. What a very disjointed discussion! I didn't know when I got to the last page.. hypocrites
Yorubas have NOTHING in common with Biafra.......nothing at all!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Re: Why Yoruba Prefer Alliance With North – Adefuye by orisa37: 8:10am On Feb 14, 2016
Diplomacy is covering the Truth..

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Re: Why Yoruba Prefer Alliance With North – Adefuye by Nobody: 8:18am On Feb 14, 2016
WhoRUDeceiving:


Its a lie. Zik tried to cooperate in 1965 and Ojuwku released Awolowo and see what happened to the Igbo man. Gej cooperated and did all he could for the SW and see what happened to the Ijaw man.

stop distorting facts.

Zik didn't cooperate. Awolowo met with him on ways to form a southern country, but Zik in his quest to dominate disregarded him and formed a party alliance with the North only for him to be made a mere ceremonial president.

As for Ojukwu, he never released Awolowo. Why do you think Awolowo was made finance minister upon his return from jail? That's cos he was released by the government in power, otherwise he would have been arrested again if he was released by Ojukwu.

Pls stop spreading falsehood.

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Re: Why Yoruba Prefer Alliance With North – Adefuye by babyfaceafrica: 8:18am On Feb 14, 2016
EteEdoho:
[s][/s]Am not Igbo,but this multi-crabs spewed here,is a product of brain dead slowpoke. Mtchww
nobody asked for your tribe,just comment an move on!!!

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Re: Why Yoruba Prefer Alliance With North – Adefuye by orisa37: 8:21am On Feb 14, 2016
Peace is the most senior of the siblings of Honour and Glory. The others are Patience, Perseverance, Endurance and Humility.

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Re: Why Yoruba Prefer Alliance With North – Adefuye by orisa37: 8:22am On Feb 14, 2016
Why?
Re: Why Yoruba Prefer Alliance With North – Adefuye by babyfaceafrica: 8:26am On Feb 14, 2016
His comment if true is not welcomed at this time...that said,that his his opinion.in my humble opinion I belive yorubas will work with anyone,that is why it is only yoruba in the three major regions that has the highest number of inter-regional marriages

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Re: Why Yoruba Prefer Alliance With North – Adefuye by BeardedMeat(m): 8:28am On Feb 14, 2016
Mynd44:
These old men and their inability to be diplomatic.
This is the only patriotic thing you have said this year! But are old men not reputed to be wizened? Adefuye where is thy wisdom? Why do you people keep fuelling the embers of disunity? Why Adefuye why?

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Re: Why Yoruba Prefer Alliance With North – Adefuye by orisa37: 8:29am On Feb 14, 2016
Ojukwu worked and cooperated with Abacha.

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Re: Why Yoruba Prefer Alliance With North – Adefuye by WhoRUDeceiving: 8:35am On Feb 14, 2016
bloodyBLOGGER:
stop distorting facts.

Zik didn't cooperate. Awolowo met with him on ways to form a southern country, but Zik in his quest to dominate disregarded him and formed a party alliance with the North only for him to be made a mere ceremonial president.

As for Ojukwu, he never released Awolowo. Why do you think Awolowo was made finance minister upon his return from jail? That's cos he was released by the government in power, otherwise he would have been arrested again if he was released by Ojukwu.

Pls stop spreading falsehood.

You actually are a poor historian, despite the free and readily available info on the web and in print. Zik trying to dominate Nigeria or Zik fighting to free a bunch of Africans from their former (and even current) slave masters?

Why Awolowo was made finance minister by Gowon and even accepted , yet you cannot use the brain given to you to think. You are joking right? Or perhaps you already know and are ashamed to say.

To all my Ijaw kins, we know the Yoruba can never be trusted politically and I thank the creator that everyone in the Midwest and East have FINALLY come to see that.

Nonsense

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Re: Why Yoruba Prefer Alliance With North – Adefuye by orisa37: 8:36am On Feb 14, 2016
You are jealous. No more room for greed and selfishness and this is painful.
Re: Why Yoruba Prefer Alliance With North – Adefuye by orisa37: 8:42am On Feb 14, 2016
Fools rush. Adefuye has a meaning in Yoruba. Believe that.
Re: Why Yoruba Prefer Alliance With North – Adefuye by orisa37: 8:44am On Feb 14, 2016
This is fake.
Re: Why Yoruba Prefer Alliance With North – Adefuye by huptin(m): 8:45am On Feb 14, 2016
WhoRUDeceiving:


Yorubas not moved by threats? Ambode destroying some quack outdoor spaces called shops? I'm sure Abiola and Diya would laugh at such silly talk. If at any, Yoruba people have for the last 150 years been the most moved by threats and talks of threats, which even the English found out upon their swift military camp over Oduduwa.

Let's not play games here

Very sorry sir. Everything you wrote up there does not make a single sense to me. The English never camped around Oduduwa, they met a 100 years war going on, their approach to capture the south west was more of a collaborative rather than an aggressive one. They came with trade, education and religion, the Yoruba's welcome them with open arms, and when the Yoruba's had enough of them they simply asked for independence and they got it.
I marvel at the way you people revise history, so Diya and Adisa cried and prostrated, yeah. But wait a minute, where is Abacha? Dead and buried, and did the Yoruba's not rule the nation for 8 years? Are they not the vice president and senate president now? Tact is a billion times better than bluff.

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Re: Why Yoruba Prefer Alliance With North – Adefuye by Saladin25(m): 8:54am On Feb 14, 2016
As for me. The Northerners are the best to associate with. I will always pick them ahead of any ethnic/tribe in Nigeria. Look at the leaders that performed well during their time, most of them are from the North. Even our own sonn OBJ never contributed to southwest, his administration was corrupt like Jonathan. The senator made some valid point. If you like abuse him, he just said the truth.

In the last election, the vote from the southwest helped PMB to win GEJ in the presidential election despite the rigging from SS and some part of SE.

As for the Biafran people, if you want to be the leader of this great nation, you need to stop hating Yoruba/Hausa-Fulani people because your population is not up to them and stop supporting people that are corrupt just because they are from your region.

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Re: Why Yoruba Prefer Alliance With North – Adefuye by malele(m): 8:58am On Feb 14, 2016
Kingsolex1:
SENATOR Anthony Adefuye is the Secretary of the Yoruba Unity Forum. In this interview, he spoke on sundry issues affecting the Yoruba within the Nigeria entity. Here is the report:
What is the future of Yoruba Unity Forum with the demise of Mama HID Awolowo who was the rallying point?
It is true we have lost our chairman, but we have not lost Yoruba Unity Forum. We also lost Ooni last year who was the patron of the forum. It shows that we need to appoint new credible and young leaders in Yorubaland who will reign for years. We need young, credible, intelligent, forthright leader.
Your forum loudly complained of marginalization of the Yoruba by former President Goodluck Jonathan.
Yes, I remember during the administration of former President Goodluck Jonathan, we went to him to complain about marginalization of Yoruba. In his appointment, there was no single Yoruba man in the first 25 key positions. We went to him on two occasions to call his attention to the marginalization. He said he was not aware. When we showed him the list, he expressed surprise and promised to set up a committee to look into it and call us back later. For one whole year, he didn’t call us. Again, we went back to him. This time, the answer he gave was shocking. And we made it clear to him that it would be difficult to convince Yoruba to vote for him with the perceived marginalization. That was the reason when we got to the Ibadan Assembly we made a statement that only a bastard Yoruba who would vote for Jonathan, having marginalized us so badly.
Is that why Southwest voted for the presidential candidate of All Progressives Congress (APC), Muhammadu Buhari?
It is only when the Northerners are in power that Yoruba people benefit most. They are the only one that have similar culture with Yoruba. They trust us and we trust them. If you trace it from the time of Shagari through Babangida to Abacha, you will find out that Yoruba people were in the limelight. Even during the time of the late Head of State, Murtala Muhammed, Yoruba was the second man. Also, during the military regime of Muhammadu Buhari, Tunde Idiagbon, a Yoruba man, was the second in command. At the time of Sani Abacha, Gen Oladipo Diya was the second man. They always choose Yoruba people when they are there. But when we have Southern President Yoruba people suffer. Even when we had our own son, we did suffer. I make bold to say that throughout the eight years of Olusegun Obasanjo, there was no single federal road constructed in the Southwest, not even the one to Ota. Go to Bayelsa today, even where there is water; they have filled it with sand.
How do you manage the mutual suspicion between Southeast and Southwest to be able to speak with one voice in the Southern Nigeria Peoples Assembly?
The mutual suspicion between the Ibo and the Yoruba is just in the mind. In the past, we have had such suspicion when they were the two contending powers in the South, but that has changed. Now, we have six zones. Any region which does not cooperate with Yoruba people does so at its own peril. I have not seen any region that does not want to associate with Yoruba. They might be afraid that we are strong and powerful, they still want to associate with us. There might be suspicion; they still want to associate with us.
Are you saying that the Igbo would prefer having alliance with the Southwest rather than the North, it they are confronted with a choice?
Yes, they have always done so. Don’t forget, most of the Ibos live outside their states.
But they have always accused the late Obafemi Awolowo of betraying the Ibo given the role he played in the civil war. How true is that?
I know that when Awolowo went to them to have an alliance, Ojukwu demanded that the meeting must hold in his bunker. Awolowo said no, let’s hold it in Asaba. Ojukwu said no, it must hold in his bunker. The next day, they started calling him Ali Baba and the fugitives. They never allowed him to sit down to discuss. Not quite long after that, they came and bombed Alagomeji, Yaba, Lagos. That was where the problem started. During that time, I know how many Ibos I housed. And if you recall, it was only in Yoruba land, including Lagos, that we did not seize their property. There was no issue of returning it to them, we never touched it. At that time, it wasn’t that we did not want to work with them but it was that they wanted to enforce Biafara on us too. No leader will accept that. Let them speak the truth. This was how the thing broke down.



sunnewsonline.com/new/why-yoruba-prefer-alliance-with-north-adefuye/



Nawah for some people ooo

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Re: Why Yoruba Prefer Alliance With North – Adefuye by EteEdoho: 8:59am On Feb 14, 2016
[s]
babyfaceafrica:
nobody asked for your tribe,just comment an move on!!!
[/s]Na so epain u reach?. Achililu,you ain't gona gag me!. If my take on the issue is against you,jump it and move on Unam.

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Re: Why Yoruba Prefer Alliance With North – Adefuye by WhoRUDeceiving: 9:05am On Feb 14, 2016
huptin:


Very sorry sir. Everything you wrote up there does not make a single sense to me. The English never camped around Oduduwa, they met a 100 years war going on, their approach to capture the south west was more of a collaborative rather than an aggressive one. They came with trade, education and religion, the Yoruba's welcome them with open arms, and when the Yoruba's had enough of them they simply asked for independence and they got it.
I marvel at the way you people revise history, so Diya and Adisa cried and prostrated, yeah. But wait a minute, where is Abacha? Dead and buried, and did the Yoruba's not rule the nation for 8 years? Are they not the vice president and senate president now? Tact is a billion times better than bluff.

Accept your apology, but of course, this is a very complacent writeup of what actually transpired in Oduduwa. The word collaborative means sitting at the high table drinking tea and accepting certain things as equal partners, and for a place once referred to as the Slave Coast, I think collaborative is far from the truth, especially with the British. Any group that welcomes a foreign power with "Open Arms" is by that very act, a serf, slave, vassal, or one aspiring or accepting such title.

Abacha being dead? Well "yeah", but with billions wasted and those around him still in top positions (i.e. Buhari) you surely must ask yourself why the country has no airline till date, no better hospital, and it's still finding it difficult to trace some of the loot nearly 20 years later.

And lastly, Yoruba being Vice and Senate President is a testimony on the sabotage of the hopeful Southern solidarity by the Southwest, and I 'm glad folks East of Ondo are hearing the truth spill out daily from una

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Re: Why Yoruba Prefer Alliance With North – Adefuye by WhoRUDeceiving: 9:08am On Feb 14, 2016
Saladin25:
As for me. The Northerners are the best to associate with. I will always pick them ahead of any ethnic/tribe in Nigeria. Look at the leaders that performed well during their time, most of them are from the North. Even our own sonn OBJ never contributed to southwest, his administration was corrupt like Jonathan. The senator made some valid point. If you like abuse him, he just said the truth.

In the last election, the vote from the southwest helped PMB to win GEJ in the presidential election despite the rigging from SS and some part of SE.

As for the Biafran people, if you want to be the leader of this great nation, you need to stop hating Yoruba/Hausa-Fulani people because your population is not up to them and stop supporting people that are corrupt just because they are from your region.

There you have it again. However, when has there been a accurate census in Nigeria that the "North" has supported the inclusion of religion or ethnicity in the data?

Let's be serious

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Re: Why Yoruba Prefer Alliance With North – Adefuye by Saladin25(m): 9:13am On Feb 14, 2016
WhoRUDeceiving:


There you have it again. However, when has there been a accurate census in Nigeria that the "North" has supported the inclusion of religion or ethnicity in the data?

Let's be serious

After Lagos, which state has more population than Kano and Kaduna?

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