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Re: Superstition, The Bane Of The Nigerian Mind by johnydon22(m): 10:48am On Feb 25, 2016
TrajansKong:


By the description above, malvisguy212, how are you not a witch on at least 5 points?
Its obvious that he agrees to be a witch... so going by what he wrote up there he is also a witch...

Now i wonder his basis for calling others witches when he also is one...

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Re: Superstition, The Bane Of The Nigerian Mind by TrajansKong: 11:08am On Feb 25, 2016
johnydon22:
Its obvious that he agrees to be a witch... so going by what he wrote up there he is also a witch...

Now i wonder his basis for calling others witches when he also is one...

Hmmmn, that would explain the constant turmoil and acute inner torment plaguing the lives of so many Christians on NL...

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Re: Superstition, The Bane Of The Nigerian Mind by johnydon22(m): 11:13am On Feb 25, 2016
TrajansKong:


Hmmmn, that would explain the constant turmoil and acute inner torment plaguing the lives of so many Christians on NL...
Evidently.. Because according to Malvisguy212 they are all witches but still accuse, beat and slap little children in their churches accusing them of being witches when he also accepts that all of them are witches

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Re: Superstition, The Bane Of The Nigerian Mind by KingEbukasBlog(m): 11:37am On Feb 25, 2016
Another ignorant post from Johnydon22 . The Chinese are the MOST superstitious people on earth but have the fastest growing economy in the world - their rate of development makes America insecure . Ethiopia is a very religious country and has the fastest growing economy in Africa , many business reports say they'll soon upstage China . Norway is the most advanced in the world and has over 76 percent of its population identify as Christians.

Invariably , atheists equate unbelief in a deity to advancement - an egregious display of ignorance , a flagrant denial in the face of facts , and should be ashamed of their futile attempts to delineate the religious as backward .

I am not saying that despicable practices should be condoned but they do not impede advancement or development

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Re: Superstition, The Bane Of The Nigerian Mind by Weah96: 11:48am On Feb 25, 2016
malvisguy212:
YES, do you think a witch must have a supernatural power before he can be call a witch ?

So, even your own pastor is a witch? Hahaha. That Bible has finished your common sense.

Anyone who gets drunk is a witch. If you get very angry, you're also a witch. Talk less of being jealous of your homie for having the big booty girlfriend. Witch!!!

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Re: Superstition, The Bane Of The Nigerian Mind by Oluwaseytiano(m): 1:36pm On Feb 25, 2016
KingEbukasBlog:
Another ignorant post from Johnydon22 . The Chinese are the MOST superstitious people on earth but have the fastest growing economy in the world - their rate of development makes America insecure . Ethiopia is a very religious country and has the fastest growing economy in Africa , many business reports say they'll soon upstage China . Norway is the most advanced in the world and has over 76 percent of its population identify as Christians.

Invariably , atheists equate unbelief in a deity to advancement - an egregious display of ignorance , a flagrant denial in the face of facts , and should be ashamed of their futile attempts to delineate the religious as backward .

I am not saying that despicable practices should be condoned but they do not impede advancement or development

A Chinese or a Norwegian won't blame the old people in his village when he fails an exam

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Re: Superstition, The Bane Of The Nigerian Mind by KingEbukasBlog(m): 1:41pm On Feb 25, 2016
Oluwaseytiano:
A Chinese or a Norwegian won't blame the old people in his village when he fails an exam

Im in a Christian University and no one blames his village people when he fails a course . The chaplain does not teach such , Bishop Oyedepo does not preach the blame game so you need to stop watching Nollywood movies and come in terms with reality
Re: Superstition, The Bane Of The Nigerian Mind by Nobody: 1:48pm On Feb 25, 2016
Oluwaseytiano:
Perhaps true but there exist things that are beyond human comprehension. I may not believe in religion bt I know there exist a metaphysical realm where certain people can tap into and exploit its potential. Great civilizations have been destroyed by superstitious beliefs eg the Aztecs. Once Nigerians see the fraud called religion, this country will grow
It's a big fraud bro.

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Re: Superstition, The Bane Of The Nigerian Mind by Rilwayne001: 1:51pm On Feb 25, 2016
johnydon22:
Its obvious that he agrees to be a witch... so going by what he wrote up there he is also a witch...

Now i wonder his basis for calling others witches when he also is one...

Dunno why you guys take malvisguy serious,he obviously doesn't know what he is talking about.

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Re: Superstition, The Bane Of The Nigerian Mind by Oluwaseytiano(m): 1:52pm On Feb 25, 2016
KingEbukasBlog:


Im in a Christian University and no one blames his village people when he fails a course . The chaplain does not teach such , Bishop Oyedepo does not preach the blame game so you need to stop watching Nollywood movies and come in terms with reality
oh really. Its pointless exchanging words. The hardest thing to take away from people is their belief

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Re: Superstition, The Bane Of The Nigerian Mind by GeneralShepherd(m): 1:52pm On Feb 25, 2016
KingEbukasBlog:
Another ignorant post from Johnydon22 . The Chinese are the MOST superstitious people on earth but have the fastest growing economy in the world - their rate of development makes America insecure . Ethiopia is a very religious country and has the fastest growing economy in Africa , many business reports say they'll soon upstage China . Norway is the most advanced in the world and has over 76 percent of its population identify as Christians.

Invariably , atheists equate unbelief in a deity to advancement - an egregious display of ignorance , a flagrant denial in the face of facts , and should be ashamed of their futile attempts to delineate the religious as backward .

I am not saying that despicable practices should be condoned but they do not impede advancement or development


I have one simple question for you, why do you believe in a God?
Re: Superstition, The Bane Of The Nigerian Mind by Nobody: 1:52pm On Feb 25, 2016
Oluwaseytiano:
A Chinese or a Norwegian won't blame the old people in his village when he fails an exam
A Chinese also won't blame their financial misfortune on his lack of paying tithe, but good thing they are generally successful financially even though they don't know what tithe is.

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Re: Superstition, The Bane Of The Nigerian Mind by mildflame: 1:52pm On Feb 25, 2016
johnydon22:
[b][i]"Suffer not the witch to live" the pastor would quote from the ever poetic bible verse and is rewarded with an ear quaking "Amen" from the ever excited congregation.

You could see the pouring emotions of deep fear as they shout and pray for the witches and wizards in their villages, uncles and grandmums and mother in-laws always at the center of this suspicion to die.

You would see cases where continuous chants of "die! die!! die!!!" rents the air all meant for the alleged witch who supposedly by some spirity diabolical means is hindering their progress or health.

This is a sad reality of the Nigerian society..

People blame abstract concepts like 'witches, Wizards, demons and devils' for their misfortune but never themselves.

Such mindset is an extremely dangerous and disturbing and is exactly detrimental to the progress of such a person.

Nigerians should learn to shed themselves of such ludicrous mindset that their misfortunes are shenanigans of some Uncle in the village because such mindset instills that imaginary fear that makes you look for imaginary solutions that in actuality will never work.

I have said it time and again that anybody who blames every other person for their mistakes or misfortunes or conditions doesn't deserve to be trusted because they will blame every other but themselves for circumstances directly or indirectly is as a result of their own actions.

We are in a remarkable millennium of outstanding scientific breakthrough in every aspect of human endeavour.

We know that someone who breaks down and experiences severe seizure is neither possessed by any demon or having a demonic attack, that is a primitive way of rendering a diagnosis which is not only incorrect but far from ever being correct.

It is a shame that in this 21st century world, there are actually humans who still hold such beliefs and even hold it to be true, that is particularly insulting to the human intellect.


There was a time the European society was like this, every plague or unexplained event is attributed to some abstract ideas like witches, demons and co, it is known in human history as the dark ages.. we know how better off these society turned out after evolving pass such mindset.

I watched a documentary in the discovery Channel about a tribe deep in the African rain forest, oblivious of any form of civilization, in fact they still go about naked. These people still hold the belief that illnesses are caused by evil spirits and as such require sacrifices to heal.

The narrator was amazed how primitive such society is in this 21st century humans delude themselves with the notion that the whole world is almost civilized.

I shook my head, if only he knew we still experience this in a large scale even in a supposedly civilized society like Nigeria.

- A society where Children are being beaten up and abused while being accused of witch craft.

- 2 year olds are being left to die in the open because one idiot claims he is a witch

- Old women and men are being beaten to death by a mindless mob gripped hard in the shackles of a nameless imaginary danger or fear.

- A society where unidentified ailments are automatically works of devils and witches while in a sane clime it should have been empirically scrutinized to ascertain the actual result and in doing so save millions of lives in the future.

-The most sad of these is that this is also a society where people heap the blames of their own misfortunes on these abstract concepts.

Tell me how anybody can be a master of his situation when he thinks that he is a victim of that situation?

It is evidently clear that the victim's mindset diminishes the human potential, by not accepting responsibility for our actions and circumstances, we greatly reduce our ability to change them.

tell me how one can succeed when he thinks his situation is the handiwork of someone and something else and not himself and by doing so rather sees himself as the victim of that circumstance..

Your misfortunes are not as a result of witches and wizard or that weird looking uncle in the village.

No, we live in a random world of unstopping chain reactions of actions.

Good things and bad things happen and can to anybody at any time and where by accepting this we will learn to accept the reality of our own conditions and accept full responsibility for them only then can we proffer real solutions that can actually change them, chanting in churches or temples or bathing in rivers to change your situation are more like digging where you should be filling up.

Nigerian Nollywood i particularly also blame for a good percentage of this because they give a distorted view of reality but anyone who swallows such distortion is also part of his problem which is simplistic gullibility.

It is time Africans (Nigerians) stop falling preys to Babalawos, Alfas, temple masters, pastors who fill your heads with a complete imbecilic superstition and fear ..


Nobody can help you more than you and you can start by changing your mindset ... If you wear a red glass you will always see everything in a shade of red.

So too if you fear witches/wizards/demons and live with that fear, you will see every slight fall out or whiff of wind as actions of witches and wizard..


It is time to take off the red glass and rid yourself of that fear that can only diminish your own potentials..

Africans should wake and rid themselves of these pitiful reverence of nonsensical superstitions or it will be the bane of our development.



OGA talk wetin u know, if u don't know u don't KNOW. I know witchcraft EXIST because of one on one encounter with one but that does not limit my destiny,NEVER. If U ever had an experience ur write would have been MORE BALANCE not just THEORETICAL l

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Re: Superstition, The Bane Of The Nigerian Mind by Tallesty1(m): 1:53pm On Feb 25, 2016
KingEbukasBlog:
Another ignorant post from Johnydon22 . The Chinese are the MOST superstitious people on earth but have the fastest growing economy in the world - their rate of development makes America insecure . Ethiopia is a very religious country and has the fastest growing economy in Africa , many business reports say they'll soon upstage China . Norway is the most advanced in the world and has over 76 percent of its population identify as Christians.

Invariably , atheists equate unbelief in a deity to advancement - an egregious display of ignorance , a flagrant denial in the face of facts , and should be ashamed of their futile attempts to delineate the religious as backward .

I am not saying that despicable practices should be condoned but they do not impede advancement or development

It is better to ignore posts like this sometimes.

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Re: Superstition, The Bane Of The Nigerian Mind by Rilwayne001: 1:53pm On Feb 25, 2016
Weah96:


So, even your own pastor is a witch? Hahaha. That Bible has finished your common sense.

!

hahahaha grin grin grin

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Re: Superstition, The Bane Of The Nigerian Mind by dikachi04(m): 1:57pm On Feb 25, 2016
Trajan and Jony..
Are u two trying to say there is ntin such as witchcraft?!
The bible talks about powers on high, principalities,powers in the dark! And i believe its whr the witches opperate. Though Jesus' is mightier,supreme!
I undastand what Marvin is trying to say, cos the Word of God says 'hatred,fornicatn n the likes are as witchcraft'.
So with this biblical point u cn call any1 who exhibit such character a Witch!
Re: Superstition, The Bane Of The Nigerian Mind by Tallesty1(m): 1:59pm On Feb 25, 2016
Oluwaseytiano:
A Chinese or a Norwegian won't blame the old people in his village when he fails an exam
Too much Nollywood movies

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Re: Superstition, The Bane Of The Nigerian Mind by omonnakoda: 2:09pm On Feb 25, 2016
Oluwaseytiano:
Perhaps true but there exist things that are beyond human comprehension. I may not believe in religion bt I know there exist a metaphysical realm where certain people can tap into and exploit its potential. Great civilizations have been destroyed by superstitious beliefs eg the Aztecs. Once Nigerians see the fraud called religion, this country will grow
The fact that there exist things beyond human comprehension does not make a superstitious explanation right. It is not clear what you mean by "metaphysical realm" ,that is just more superstition.
The illogicality of the notion that unexplained phenomena require irrational or illogical explanations is absurd.
For a long time thunder e.g and many other phenomena were unexplained that does not justify the contemporaneous explanations provided.
That a metaphysical realm must exist to explain the unexplained is funny. The simple matter is the human brain is quite limited and that is a good explanation.
If we consider that on average humans have an IQ of somewhere between 85- 115 as "NORMAL" Yet there are people with IQs of 140-160 and there is a huge difference in their brain power to that of a person with 70-80. Now consider that it were possible somehow that a human with an IQ of 600 exists.Much of what is unexplained to a "normal" human will be simple to such a being.
Why must we believe that the human brain is the peak ?
Already the use of computers allows us in many ways to operate as if we have such a high IQ

In summary the limitation to understanding is the human brain and not metaphysical realms.It likely will be possible to "engineer" human brains to IQ levels of about 200-300 in the next 100 years maybe more even. We must remember that 150 years ago there was no TV,radio,aeroplanes or light bulb.
The human brain is a physical thing that has not been "improved" in a thousand years but we see more computing power today in an Iphone than in a 10 ton computer from 50 years ago that guided the moon landing.
The problem would be whether really intelligent beings would still be human.

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Re: Superstition, The Bane Of The Nigerian Mind by 9jatatafo(m): 2:14pm On Feb 25, 2016
It's all about emancipation of the mind. We have to emancipate ourselves from mental slavery

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Re: Superstition, The Bane Of The Nigerian Mind by dikachi04(m): 2:16pm On Feb 25, 2016
Also all of u saying Christianity is a scam, may u find mercy frm the Lord. I remember Paul in the bible, he did dreadful things against christians but later he saw the light of God and e began one of the biggest Preacher of the Word! Believe whatever and say whatever, infat do whatever u wish.. Bt deep down inside u can feel it that u're really empty, unless u believe n accept Jesus u wont see the light like Paul did. Remember your wisdom is foolishness before God!

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Re: Superstition, The Bane Of The Nigerian Mind by BIAFRANFLAG(m): 2:17pm On Feb 25, 2016
malvisguy212:
It is wrong to blame someone of something he know nothing about, but is it wrong to call a witch, witch ?

It takes a witch to identify a witch.

Likes always recognizes its likes.

Now you understand better.

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Re: Superstition, The Bane Of The Nigerian Mind by johnydon22(m): 2:26pm On Feb 25, 2016
omonnakoda:
The fact that there exist things beyond human comprehension does not make a supertitious explanation right. It is not clear what you mean by "metaphysical realm" ,that is just more superstition.
The illogicality of the notion that unexplained phenomena require irrational or illogical explanations is absurd.
For a long time thunder e.g and many other phenomena were unexplained that does not justify the contemporaneous explanations provided.
That a metaphysical realm must exist to explain the unexplained is funny. The simple matter is the human brain is quite limited and that is a good explanation.
If we consider that on average humans have an IQ of somewhere between 85- 115 as "NORMAL" Yet there are people with IQs of 140-160 and there is a huge difference in their brain power to that of a person with 70-80. Now consider that it were possible somehow that a human with an IQ of 600 exists.Much of what is unexplained to a "normal" human will be simple to such a being.
Already the use of computers allows us in many ways to operate as if we have such a high IQ

In summary the limitation to understanding is the human brain and not metaphysical realms.It likely will be possible to "engineer" human brains to IQ levels of about 200-300 in the next 100 years maybe more even. We must remember that 150 years ago there was no TV,radio,aeroplanes or light bulb.
The human brain is a physical thing that has not been "improved" in a thousand years but we see more computing power today in an Iphone than in a 10 ton computer from 50 years ago that guided the moon landing.
The problem would be whether really intelligent beings would still be human.
Thank you my brother... That is just the mindset of "Ignorance placeholder" .. if you do not know this then fill that gap up with any assumption that comes to mind.

That there are mysteries we are yet to solve doesn't warrant the invoking of some ridiculous assumptions to fill, it simply means we do not know them yet.

That someone doesn't know or understand how an event played out doesn't automatically invoke witches it simply means that person doesn't know...

People should stop using Ignorance as a butter to eat unfounded assumptions.

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Re: Superstition, The Bane Of The Nigerian Mind by johnydon22(m): 2:36pm On Feb 25, 2016
Rilwayne001:


Dunno why you guys take malvisguy serious,he obviously doesn't know what he is talking about.
Its incredible ... am really wowed..

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Re: Superstition, The Bane Of The Nigerian Mind by Oluwaseytiano(m): 2:54pm On Feb 25, 2016
omonnakoda:
The fact that there exist things beyond human comprehension does not make a superstitious explanation right. It is not clear what you mean by "metaphysical realm" ,that is just more superstition.
The illogicality of the notion that unexplained phenomena require irrational or illogical explanations is absurd.
For a long time thunder e.g and many other phenomena were unexplained that does not justify the contemporaneous explanations provided.
That a metaphysical realm must exist to explain the unexplained is funny. The simple matter is the human brain is quite limited and that is a good explanation.
If we consider that on average humans have an IQ of somewhere between 85- 115 as "NORMAL" Yet there are people with IQs of 140-160 and there is a huge difference in their brain power to that of a person with 70-80. Now consider that it were possible somehow that a human with an IQ of 600 exists.Much of what is unexplained to a "normal" human will be simple to such a being.
Why must we believe that the human brain is the peak ?
Already the use of computers allows us in many ways to operate as if we have such a high IQ

In summary the limitation to understanding is the human brain and not metaphysical realms.It likely will be possible to "engineer" human brains to IQ levels of about 200-300 in the next 100 years maybe more even. We must remember that 150 years ago there was no TV,radio,aeroplanes or light bulb.
The human brain is a physical thing that has not been "improved" in a thousand years but we see more computing power today in an Iphone than in a 10 ton computer from 50 years ago that guided the moon landing.
The problem would be whether really intelligent beings would still be human.
av seen people unscathed by bullets and machete
Re: Superstition, The Bane Of The Nigerian Mind by Pataricatering(f): 2:55pm On Feb 25, 2016
There are supposed witches being mobbed and killed! If they really were witches and had all that power I wonder how normal people at buttons or in the village square would have killed them easily?
malvisguy212:
a witch is someone who is possess by evil spirit. The phrase " suffer not a witch to live" what does it mean ? Do you think a witch can be kill ? When a pastor use this word, do you think he mean physical death to the witch ?

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Re: Superstition, The Bane Of The Nigerian Mind by johnydon22(m): 2:56pm On Feb 25, 2016
Oluwaseytiano:
av seen people unscathed by bullets and machete
You need to bring your own Gun and Machete for a genuine test run lets see how well that works for the person..

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Re: Superstition, The Bane Of The Nigerian Mind by donkross1(m): 2:57pm On Feb 25, 2016
The bible says "For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places".
Ephesians 6:12 KJV



What does it mean in simpler terms?

It simply means we are wrestling against demons..


Who are demons?

They are the fallen angels that was hurled down from heaven alongside satan himself. Satan is their leader and they themselves have followers which includes witches, wizards, herbalist and so on..


How do you identify a witch?

It only takes a spirit filled or spiritual person to identify a witch.



Okay wait... If you say witches aren't in existence, where were you when Arch Bishop Benson Idahosa stopped the whole of the witches in africa from holding a meeting in Benin city ?
Re: Superstition, The Bane Of The Nigerian Mind by Pataricatering(f): 2:58pm On Feb 25, 2016
This is proof that witches exist? I have dogs and they behave like what you just described a lot. Go and read up on the hearing ability of dogs you would understand why your claim that witches exist because your dog was Barking is ridiculous.
malvisguy212:
Galatians 5:19-21
Now the works of the flesh are evident: sexual
immorality, impurity, sensuality, idolatry,
sorcery, enmity, strife, jealousy, fits of anger,
rivalries, dissensions, divisions, envy,
drunkenness, orgies, and things like these. I
warn you, as I warned you before, that those
who do such things will not inherit the kingdom
of God.

There was one night, around 2 to 3 am, I came outside to pee myself, I saw the compound dog who has a baby, ( when a dog saw something, you know how he behave, right?) The mother of the little dog was barking head up, and the little dog was running around her , they both were looking up , barking heavily. I did not see anything, but I am 100percent sure this dogs saw something. If you want to know if witches exist, come to kafanchan LGA in kaduna, just spend three night, that all.

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Re: Superstition, The Bane Of The Nigerian Mind by omonnakoda: 3:02pm On Feb 25, 2016
Oluwaseytiano:
av seen people unscathed by bullets and machete
I am sure you believe that. We are having a conversation on line (that is a big deal too) When I was a child we used to write letters put them in envelopes and post them

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Re: Superstition, The Bane Of The Nigerian Mind by Pataricatering(f): 3:05pm On Feb 25, 2016
When bishop oyedepo was slapping a a little girl and calling her a witch where we're you?
KingEbukasBlog:


Im in a Christian University and no one blames his village people when he fails a course . The chaplain does not teach such , Bishop Oyedepo does not preach the blame game so you need to stop watching Nollywood movies and come in terms with reality

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Re: Superstition, The Bane Of The Nigerian Mind by Godsonkemz(m): 3:05pm On Feb 25, 2016
We can't be ignorant of the devices of the enemy. These witches do exist believe it or not. If you doubt their existence, visit these areas where they are very dominant such as awka, calabar, eket, benin, ijebu ode and your village mayn't be exempted.

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