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Re: Superstition, The Bane Of The Nigerian Mind by haryomikun(m): 6:35pm On Feb 25, 2016
virginboy1:
This is deeply insightful.

I live almost everyday with the hell fire mentality.
I used to be like you bro but one day I asked myself something.... if there is really hell does it mean all Africans from the time of Jesus down to the 20th century went to hell for not believing in Jesus?

I decided it was a lie and it was bullish*t

I was expecting a non existent rapture

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Re: Superstition, The Bane Of The Nigerian Mind by erusen: 6:41pm On Feb 25, 2016
johnydon22:
It was quite an eye sore... what baffled and hurt me most was that the people around the community none even bothered to help him (A 2year old) but it took a complete stranger from another land to save the poor child..
yea and most people were talking about he english and the tattoo in her body,she came from danmark and have even adopted those kids.spits on Africa.

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Re: Superstition, The Bane Of The Nigerian Mind by KingEbukasBlog(m): 6:42pm On Feb 25, 2016
GeneralShepherd:


I made a general statement about poor eastern European countries and it stands firm. They are generally more religious that there Scandinavian counterparts.

Lmao . Finland who you purported as wealthy is facing an embarrassing economy crises but they are Christians . Norway is a christian country and has been from the early centuries . You also claimed Estonia was a poor christian country but the stats revealed otherwise - IT IS AN ATHEIST COUNTRY . I saw Estonia and I was like isn't that country an atheist one and I had to confirm .

This should be very embarrassing for you . Next time talk with sense . Foreign guests here must have viewed the balderdash you spewed on the first page .


I have shown you evidence that Norwegians identifying as Christians does not necessarily imply that they are religious.

Being religious is ambiguous - it is either the level of dedication to one's faith or the totality of adherents affiliated to a particular religion . They are Christians but are not very dedicated to serving God

Romanians are leaving there country in droves to move to wealthier European countries.

Can you provide an article to prove this claim
Why do you the UK wants to leave the EU?

Ive not been following that news , pardon me , but I understand that some rules imposed on them by the EU are deleterious and they wan comot .

Keep lying for Jesus

Mr. Man lying for Jesus is like errrmmm an oxymoron . Its contradictory . Jesus condemned liars and said their place is in hell . Peter struck the Marcus with his sword , cutting his ear off and Jesus objurgated- rebuked swiftly - him .
Re: Superstition, The Bane Of The Nigerian Mind by TrajansKong: 6:45pm On Feb 25, 2016
naijathings:


You see,

such people make up a major part of Nigerian population.
simple question : who is a witch? and he started talking about Galatians.

most people are like that. they only know what Galatians and John and Peter told them over 1,500 years ago but they can never give an intelligent answer to a simple question, from their own brain.
They know where Nazareth and river Jordan is and they can write out all Jesus ancestors up to King David but they don't know the name of their great grandfather.

I went to church last Sunday, the pastor wanted to say a prayer and he asked us to pray for our entire families by using the name of our grandfather. it got to a point where he had to ask those that actually knew their grandfather name to raise up they hand. not up to 15 people.

Nigerians know how to sit back and call God to do everything. even when the kerosene or gas in the stove finishes they call God to allow them cook just one pot of soup cos there is no where to buy till morning

Bode George goes to jail for looting and comes out to hold a full church service on a Saturday. Nobody asks questions, they all say God HAS DONE IT FOR HIM

U hear your wife is having an affair, u don't take corrective measures, YOU CALL ON GOD

U don't pass exam, u CALL ON GOD

ur husband don't come home, u blame the witches in his village cos u heard that they don't like u there

U saw dogs barking at night, u blame it on your landlady cos u been hearing that SHE TURNS TO CAT AT NIGHT but u have no idea that electromagnetic waves disturb dogs at night cos they come lower at night and dogs are sensitive to them just the way they are sensitive when u press your remote control near them

Isaac Newton was born with one tooth in his mouth. Imagine if he was born in Africa. they would have put him in the EVIL FOREST

Yes there are strange powers in the world but the power to think and reason and think again and ask why instead of cry is more powerful and VERY IMPORTANT
GBAMMM!!! And here endeth the lesson, my people!! Go and sin no more grin

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Re: Superstition, The Bane Of The Nigerian Mind by taurus25(m): 6:46pm On Feb 25, 2016
erusen:
yea and most people were talking about he english and the tattoo in her body,she came from danmark and have even adopted those kids.spits on Africa.
we will get there
Re: Superstition, The Bane Of The Nigerian Mind by KingEbukasBlog(m): 6:47pm On Feb 25, 2016
GeneralShepherd:


Lol the religious mind when in a difficult spot scream insults!

Lmao ... seriously are you taking it personal

Is there any form of data collection that captures 100% of the target population? Your previous quote that 71% of Norwegians identify as Christians did the data set capture 100% of the population?

Baptism records ?

Keep lying for your dead zombie God

Again this is a daft statement
Re: Superstition, The Bane Of The Nigerian Mind by GeneralShepherd(m): 6:50pm On Feb 25, 2016
KingEbukasBlog:


Lmao ... seriously are you taking it personal



Baptism records ?



Again this is a daft statement

Care to show how you got the baptism records or the source of your data? Have you ever heard of uncertainty in data collection? Oga sit down one side lol

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Re: Superstition, The Bane Of The Nigerian Mind by erusen: 6:54pm On Feb 25, 2016
taurus25:

we will get there
guy me na to focus on my life I dey na dem sabi,it will take centuries to put this continent on the right path.
Re: Superstition, The Bane Of The Nigerian Mind by KingEbukasBlog(m): 6:55pm On Feb 25, 2016
GeneralShepherd:


Care to show how you got the baptism records or the source of your data? Have you ever heard of uncertainty in data collection? Oga sit down one side lol

So you are insinuating that the percentage that identify as Christains is false ? This is the height of desperation . Anyway , a funny atheist once claimed that all billionaires in Nigeria are closet atheists when I asked him to show me a wealthy Nigerian atheist . All you guys do is to force yourself to assume so as to accommodate that pernicious delusion.

By the way , the general decline of Religion , in any part of the world just confirms the scriptures. Its painful but the Word of God is forever true .
Re: Superstition, The Bane Of The Nigerian Mind by KingEbukasBlog(m): 7:00pm On Feb 25, 2016
haryomikun:

I used to be like you bro but one day I asked myself something.... if there is really hell does it mean all Africans from the time of Jesus down to the 20th century went to hell for not believing in Jesus?

I decided it was a lie and it was bullish*t

I was expecting a non existent rapture

Chei ... I once asked that question and had to seek answers . You asked yours and left your faith . Its speaks volume of the kind of person you are . SMH
Re: Superstition, The Bane Of The Nigerian Mind by omonnakoda: 7:02pm On Feb 25, 2016
malvisguy212:
Galatians 5:19-21
Now the works of the flesh are evident: sexual
immorality, impurity, sensuality, idolatry,
sorcery, enmity, strife, jealousy, fits of anger,
rivalries, dissensions, divisions, envy,
drunkenness, orgies, and things like these. I
warn you, as I warned you before, that those
who do such things will not inherit the kingdom
of God.

There was one night, around 2 to 3 am, I came outside to pee myself, I saw the compound dog who has a baby, ( when a dog saw something, you know how he behave, right?) The mother of the little dog was barking head up, and the little dog was running around her , they both were looking up , barking heavily. I did not see anything, but I am 100percent sure this dogs saw something. If you want to know if witches exist, come to kafanchan LGA in kaduna, just spend three night, that all.
Kafanchan LGA is tha the witches headquarters?

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Re: Superstition, The Bane Of The Nigerian Mind by virginboy1(m): 7:04pm On Feb 25, 2016
haryomikun:

I used to be like you bro but one day I asked myself something.... if there is really hell does it mean all Africans from the time of Jesus down to the 20th century went to hell for not believing in Jesus?

I decided it was a lie and it was bullish*t

I was expecting a non existent rapture
You see, one issue I have with most conventional Christians is that, they are averse to questions that has to do with logic. When curiosity triggers one to ask a certain question they tag it as blasphemy bla bla.

Up till now, no one can tell me where I was 1000 yrs ago.

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Re: Superstition, The Bane Of The Nigerian Mind by 9jatatafo(m): 7:06pm On Feb 25, 2016
naijathings:


people swallow everything plus spoon and cup especially when PASTOR OR BABA OR PROPHET SAID SO. They will never ask questions or check history or spend time to do investgative analysis.

Google HEAVENS GATE SUICIDE and see something

Thanks for the info and I will google it right away
Re: Superstition, The Bane Of The Nigerian Mind by GeneralShepherd(m): 7:06pm On Feb 25, 2016
KingEbukasBlog:


So you are insinuating that the percentage that identify as Christains is false ? This is the height of desperation . Anyway , a funny atheist once claimed that all billionaires in Nigeria are closet atheists when I asked him to show me a wealthy Nigerian atheist . All you guys do is to force yourself to assume so as to accommodate that pernicious delusion.

By the way , the general decline of Religion , in any part of the world just confirms the scriptures. Its painful but the Word of God is forever true .

I never made such claims, by the way on Romania

I am pleased that there are now lots of voices agreeing with me, that we must leave the EU to control our borders.

"It should also be noted that the Romanian and Bulgarian figures have gone up significantly by 55,000 in the year ending September 2015, even higher than I predicted."

http://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/647351/Iain-Duncan-Smith-David-Cameron-EU-renegotiation-migration-ONS-Brexit

On religion in Norway

Churches in Norway may be largely empty and belief in God in steady decline but belief in, or at least fascination with, ghosts and spirits is surging.

http://www.irishtimes.com/life-and-style/travel/who-you-gonna-call-as-religion-declines-norway-turns-to-ghosts-to-fill-the-void-1.2406230

Europeans are generally moving away from religion, you are the one trying to prove otherwise.

As per naming Estonia, I was naming eastern European countries (they are generally more religious) and named Estonia. I was wrong and thank you for pointing it out.

However, stop forcing Christianity on Norwegians. Norwegians are nominal Christians, they respect Christianity as part of their tradition. Here in England everyone celebrates Christmas, easter etc as part of culture not as a philosophical stand point.

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Re: Superstition, The Bane Of The Nigerian Mind by KingEbukasBlog(m): 7:07pm On Feb 25, 2016
musKeeto:

It is a pity your mind is limited by the blood of Jesus.

Re: Superstition, The Bane Of The Nigerian Mind by GeneralShepherd(m): 7:13pm On Feb 25, 2016
KingEbukasBlog:


Lmao ... seriously are you taking it personal



Baptism records ?



Again this is a daft statement


This is from the same Wikipedia article where you got your data from with regards to Norway.

In modern times, Norway – like many European countries – has seen a great decline in religiosity, at least among non-immigrant Norwegian endemics, [b]and most Norwegians are irreligious: [/b]atheism and agnosticism are the most common metaphysical views according to Zuckerman

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_Norway

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Re: Superstition, The Bane Of The Nigerian Mind by GeneralShepherd(m): 7:13pm On Feb 25, 2016
KingEbukasBlog:


Lmao ... seriously are you taking it personal



Baptism records ?



Again this is a daft statement


This is from the same Wikipedia article where you got your data from with regards to Norway.

In modern times, Norway – like many European countries – has seen a great decline in religiosity, at least among non-immigrant Norwegian endemics, and most Norwegians are irreligious: atheism and agnosticism are the most common metaphysical views according to Zuckerman



https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_Norway

I wonder why you choose to cherrypick the article leaving out portions that show decline in religiosity.

It is wrong to lie for Jesus, even the bible predicted that narrow is the way that leads to heaven.

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Re: Superstition, The Bane Of The Nigerian Mind by stainlex(m): 7:20pm On Feb 25, 2016
donkross1:


And this is the part where I am supposed to claim that I was there so you could label me a liar grin cheesy I no go lie.. I wasn't there but I heard the story grin
Lol..I'm 100% sure the person you heard it from wasn't there either. It's a myth bro.

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Re: Superstition, The Bane Of The Nigerian Mind by KingEbukasBlog(m): 7:24pm On Feb 25, 2016
GeneralShepherd:



This is from the same Wikipedia article where you got your data from with regards to Norway.

In modern times, Norway – like many European countries – has seen a great decline in religiosity, at least among non-immigrant Norwegian endemics, [b]and most Norwegians are irreligious: [/b]atheism and agnosticism are the most common metaphysical views according to Zuckerman



https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_Norway

I wonder why you choose to cherrypick the article leaving out portions that show decline in religiosity.

It saw a 20 percent decline . A significant percentage are Christians . But wait .

Their religiosity had nothing to do with their advancement . You atheists like making funny claims - you make it look like if a particular portion of a country's population loose their faith in Christ then they start progressing grin .

All these countries facing decline in Religion have been totally affiliated to a particular religion from early on . Moral decadence should be the number one reason why people succumb to the pressure of the world . It has very little or nothing to do with rationality .

You want to have that carte blanche do to whatever you like , religious rules keeps you in check . How do you circumvent this ? You deny the existence of God so that you can live your life the way you want .

Tah Dah !
Re: Superstition, The Bane Of The Nigerian Mind by taurus25(m): 7:27pm On Feb 25, 2016
erusen:
guy me na to focus on my life I dey na dem sabi,it will take centuries to put this continent on the right path.
that one dey!!!
Re: Superstition, The Bane Of The Nigerian Mind by GeneralShepherd(m): 7:30pm On Feb 25, 2016
My disbelief (and most atheists I know) in God, gods,satan, witches and other spiritual entities, is not a dogmatic stance, nor is it hatred against spiritual beings.

Rather, it is a position I adopted after evaluating every story about God and spiritually I have been told to find that there's no shred of objectively verifiable evidence in any of the stories.

I am willing to change my views in the face of compelling evidence. Saying Idahosa arrested every witch in Benin, or that your dogs were Barking looking at the sky, or that some dude was shot and he came out of the ordeal unscathed is not enough to sway a rational mind.

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Re: Superstition, The Bane Of The Nigerian Mind by KingEbukasBlog(m): 7:32pm On Feb 25, 2016
GeneralShepherd:


I never made such claims, by the way on Romania

I am pleased that there are now lots of voices agreeing with me, that we must leave the EU to control our borders.

"It should also be noted that the Romanian and Bulgarian figures have gone up significantly by 55,000 in the year ending September 2015, even higher than I predicted."

http://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/647351/Iain-Duncan-Smith-David-Cameron-EU-renegotiation-migration-ONS-Brexit

The snippet I posted - an excerpt from an article - refuted those claims made by this article


On religion in Norway

Churches in Norway may be largely empty and belief in God in steady decline but belief in, or at least fascination with, ghosts and spirits is surging.

http://www.irishtimes.com/life-and-style/travel/who-you-gonna-call-as-religion-declines-norway-turns-to-ghosts-to-fill-the-void-1.2406230

Europeans are generally moving away from religion, you are the one trying to prove otherwise.

Last year , I didn't go to church for close to 8 weeks consecutively . Am I an atheist ?

There is decline of religion as regards to dedication of faith . People are no longer sure because of the wolves in sheep clothings - fake pastors , the bling bling preachers and heinous crimes such as pedophilia committed by priests on boys ! And the bible warned of this . But again , people want to have it their way , so they claim dropping their faith is a rational decision

As per naming Estonia, I was naming eastern European countries (they are generally more religious) and named Estonia. I was wrong and thank you for pointing it out.

No problem

However, stop forcing Christianity on Norwegians. Norwegians are nominal Christians, they respect Christianity as part of their tradition. Here in England everyone celebrates Christmas, easter etc as part of culture not as a philosophical stand point.

I am not . Hey man , I saw bullet in your foot . The UK and the US are not atheist countries . Atheists clamour for religious holidays and decorations to be dropped . They are vociferous of this and have written petitions which obviously get ignored

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Re: Superstition, The Bane Of The Nigerian Mind by donkross1(m): 7:34pm On Feb 25, 2016
stainlex:

Lol..I'm 100% sure the person you heard it from wasn't there either. It's a myth bro.


Nah nah nah it's not a myth, it was even televised.
Re: Superstition, The Bane Of The Nigerian Mind by GeneralShepherd(m): 7:37pm On Feb 25, 2016
KingEbukasBlog:


It saw a 20 percent decline . A significant percentage are Christians . But wait .

Their religiosity had nothing to do with their advancement . You atheists like making funny claims - you make it look like if a particular portion of a country's population loose their faith in Christ then they start progressing grin .

All these countries facing decline in Religion have been totally affiliated to a particular religion from early on . Moral decadence should be the number one reason why people succumb to the pressure of the world . It has very little or nothing to do with rationality .

You want to have that carte blanche do to whatever you like , religious rules keeps you in check . How do you circumvent this ? You deny the existence of God so that you can live your life the way you want .

Tah Dah !

Your problem is that you create red herrings and attack them. Show me where I wrote that these countries are progressing because they lost their religion! Stop lying for christ.

I just showed you that progressive societies are less religious generally, I have not established a cause and effect link between irreligious and progress.

And it is difficult to establish which came first, did irreligion bring prosperity? Or did prosperity renegade the need for a God?

However, I can confidently say that highly educated countries are largely irreligious. Knowledge and religion are often at loggerheads as history has shown.

I said that poorer eastern European countries that are poorer are more religious. How does that imply what you wrote there?

Now about your claim that God is the giver of morality, how many armed robbers in Nigeria said they don't belive in a God?

Religion or lack of it has nothing to do with morality, the values instilled in you by your environment general provides you with the moral compass to navigate life.

Sweden has a great proportion of atheists ,why are they not raping , killing and pillaging themselves since they've lost God and hence all morality and decorum?

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Re: Superstition, The Bane Of The Nigerian Mind by KingEbukasBlog(m): 7:40pm On Feb 25, 2016
GeneralShepherd:
My disbelief (and most atheists I know) in God, gods,satan, witches and other spiritual entities, is not a dogmatic stance, nor is it hatred against spiritual beings.

Rather, it is a position I adopted after evaluating every story about God and spiritually I have been told to find that there's no shred of objectively verifiable evidence in any of the stories.

I am willing to change my views in the face of compelling evidence. Saying Idahosa arrested every witch in Benin, or that your dogs were Barking looking at the sky, or that some dude was shot and he came out of the ordeal unscathed is not enough to sway a rational mind.

You are missing the point . Believing in God is admitting He is your Lord and Creator . Can you provide any compelling evidence that life has no creator .

Let me give you something to chew on .

Scientists recently discovered that outta 700 quintillion planets , the earth is unique . Now if you believe we got the uniqueness of earth - its propensity to support and sustain life -through serendipity then the demise of this planet would automatically mean the nascence of the existence of the universe was a pointless event . Energy was useless , matter was useless , intelligence was useless . Everything is useless .

Do you agree to do this ?
Re: Superstition, The Bane Of The Nigerian Mind by erusen: 7:41pm On Feb 25, 2016
taurus25:
that one dey!!!
my brother nor be small thing oh
Re: Superstition, The Bane Of The Nigerian Mind by stainlex(m): 7:49pm On Feb 25, 2016
donkross1:



Nah nah nah it's not a myth, it was even televised.

Listen to yourself. Read and re-read what you just typed. Televising of the banning of Edo State witches. Bro, cool down nao.

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Re: Superstition, The Bane Of The Nigerian Mind by omonnakoda: 7:51pm On Feb 25, 2016
KingEbukasBlog:




Scientists recently discovered that outta 700 quintillion planets , the earth is unique .

Can you substantiate this please?

What does "UNIQUE" was there a scientific definition of the term provided by these "scientists"

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Re: Superstition, The Bane Of The Nigerian Mind by stainlex(m): 7:53pm On Feb 25, 2016
KingEbukasBlog:


You are missing the point . Believing in God is admitting He is your Lord and Creator . Can you provide any compelling evidence that life has no creator .

Let me give you something to chew on .

Scientists recently discovered that outta 700 quintillion planets , the earth is unique . Now if you believe we got the uniqueness of earth - its propensity to support and sustain life -through serendipity then the demise of this planet would automatically mean the nascence of the existence of the universe was a pointless event . Energy was useless , matter was useless , intelligence was useless . Everything is useless .

Do you agree to do this ?

Bro, I know you didn't feed me this to chew, but the aroma was inviting.. grin
Which scientists? Can you please provide a link to the journal where this claim was made?

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Re: Superstition, The Bane Of The Nigerian Mind by KingEbukasBlog(m): 7:57pm On Feb 25, 2016
GeneralShepherd:


Your problem is that you create red herrings and attack them. Show me where I wrote that these countries are progressing because they lost their religion! Stop lying for christ.

I said that poorer eastern European countries that are poorer are more religious. How does that imply what you wrote there?

Now about your claim that God is the giver of morality, how many armed robbers in Nigeria said they don't belive in a God?

Religion or lack of it has nothing to do with morality, the values instilled in you by your environment general provides you with the moral compass to navigate life.

Sweden has a great proportion of atheists ,why are they not raping , killing and pillaging themselves since they've lost God and hence all morality and decorum?

How is Sweden an atheist country ? Sweden is acclaimed to be an atheist country when its not .

Anyway the deterrent - security forces - is strong enough . UAE is extremely religious and they have the lowest crime rate in the world . Security and laws against crime in these countries deter them from doing such .

Just like a recalcitrant child who is being "taken care of " by a disciplinarian . The behaviour of the disciplinarian will keep the morally loose child in check .

Again economic factors , high rate of unemployment , inflation may be related to an increase in crime rate . There is a correlation .By the way moral decadence shouldn't be related to horrendous crimes only
Re: Superstition, The Bane Of The Nigerian Mind by johnydon22(m): 7:58pm On Feb 25, 2016
stainlex:


Bro, I know you didn't feed me this to chew, but the aroma was inviting.. grin
Which scientists? Can you please provide a link to the journal where this claim was made?
I think this below is a better question for now..

omonnakoda:

Can you substantiate this please?
What does "UNIQUE" was there a scientific definition of the term provided by these "scientists"

Lets first of all know what "UNIQUE" Implies here and then take it from there... I am particularly interested in this one grin
Re: Superstition, The Bane Of The Nigerian Mind by omonnakoda: 8:00pm On Feb 25, 2016
johnydon22:
I think this below is a better question for now..



Lets first of all know what "UNIQUE" Implies here and then take it from there... I am particularly interested in this one grin
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