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Re: The Atheists Test by Tellemall: 10:32pm On Mar 11, 2016
taurus25:

i have one question.....does any of those evidence provided make any sense to you?.......if they dont please point it out and tell your reasons why it makes no sense........thanks



I never bothered reading them once I was told I wasn't educated. I never was interested in the argument but it was drawn out.

Our views are too different. If I'm expected to read all that, then I deserve some sort of politeness in return. Not autistic rambles and self proclaimed intelligence that is lacking.

You may read or watch them. I refuse to.

Thanks. Bye.

**Also, I shouldn't have commented on a thread meant to please atheists. I do not wish to be mentioned or stalked by irate female atheists who are looking for who to look down on.

Everyone should believe what they want to. But if you don't want to hear about religion, especially Christianity, since atheists forget there are other religions, then don't try and ram atheism down everybody else's throat with some science to wash it down.
Re: The Atheists Test by taurus25(m): 10:40pm On Mar 11, 2016
Tellemall:




I never bothered reading them once I was told I wasn't educated. I simply am not bothered.

Our views are too different. If I'm expected to read all that, then I deserve some sort of politeness in return. Not autistic rambles and self proclaimed intelligence that is lacking.

You may read or watch them. I refuse to.

Thanks. Bye.

**Also, I shouldn't have commented on a thread meant to please atheists. I do not wish to be mentioned or stalked by irate female atheists who are looking for who to look down on.
okay now i understand.....bye tho
Re: The Atheists Test by Tellemall: 10:46pm On Mar 11, 2016
taurus25:

okay now i understand.....bye tho

You're doing the mention thing again. sad
Re: The Atheists Test by taurus25(m): 11:03pm On Mar 11, 2016
^^^^^^okay no vex grin
Re: The Atheists Test by naijapips02: 6:54am On Mar 12, 2016
winner01:
Leaving the concept of an Eternal Being out of this for a minute (I know its hard for the human mind to grasp), I want you to realize something.

Whether you have the ability to probe the existence of your Creator depends solely on how your Creator created you. Somehow in your (created) mind, you think you possess the ability to root out the "source" of your Creator. Its amazing how you limit and liken a Creator to his creations.

Complexity connotes design, and that is all we have ever observed even in our planet. The only difference is, you agree with all other observed occurrences but give an exception to man and the universe.

You didn't create yourself and for that you need to recognize you limits, for if you didn't have any limits, this discussion of a Creators existence would have been settled a long time ago.

I should sound like the atheist Richard Dawkins and then say: "What matters is whether God's existence is probe-able".

Your limits is why you haven't successfully probed your existence. How on earth do you think you could probe your Creator's existence.

dude, you sound so daft. Lol
Re: The Atheists Test by naijapips02: 7:17am On Mar 12, 2016
KingEbukasBlog:

The BOP game is for the mentally indolent ... your responses agree with me .
End of Story !
cheesy
Ebuka, you have no argument. Really.
Re: The Atheists Test by naijapips02: 7:22am On Mar 12, 2016
johnydon22:


Must be a Christian or muslim mod to have wiped out all my recent posts grin grin grin grin

sukkot should take note cus he might be next to chop ban for bolded texts cheesy

Bro, the theists are not happy with you at all. I'm Sure your posts are being reported in droves each minute. To them you are the anti-christ.

Seun needs to do something should this. Seun when has bold writings and italics become a crime on here?

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Re: The Atheists Test by KingEbukasBlog(m): 7:38am On Mar 12, 2016
naijapips02:


Ebuka, you have no argument. Really.

I have no argument ? Whho is this one ? Respond profoundly to this :

KingEbukasBlog:
2. Man emulates nature but fails to admit nature was indeed designed .

1. RoboScorpion vs Scorpion

2. Robodog vs Dog

3. Artificial neuron vs human neuron

4. Man's arm vs Robot's arm

The former is described as intelligently designed but not the latter Do you see why atheism is irrational and the atheists need to understand the Logic of God and EVERYTHING ?

Why does man emulate nature , describes the emulation as intelligently designed but not what is being emulated ?

*** Like I told you on the other thread , if you wont give me cogent reasons , dont bother replying

Re: The Atheists Test by KingEbukasBlog(m): 7:44am On Mar 12, 2016
Tellemall:




I never bothered reading them once I was told I wasn't educated. I never was interested in the argument but it was drawn out.

Our views are too different. If I'm expected to read all that, then I deserve some sort of politeness in return. Not autistic rambles and self proclaimed intelligence that is lacking.

You may read or watch them. I refuse to.

Thanks. Bye.

**Also, I shouldn't have commented on a thread meant to please atheists. I do not wish to be mentioned or stalked by irate female atheists who are looking for who to look down on.

Everyone should believe what they want to. But if you don't want to hear about religion, especially Christianity, since atheists forget there are other religions, then don't try and ram atheism down everybody else's throat with some science to wash it down.

Cloudgoddess is an irate bigot . Even though I mock the atheists and ridicule them , we still joke anytime and talk about other stuff like football . I wonder why she is taking everything personal . Her puerile insults and self acclaimed intelligence - which is conspicuously lacking - show she is immature , maybe a teen . Who knows
Re: The Atheists Test by Tellemall: 7:52am On Mar 12, 2016
KingEbukasBlog:


Cloudgoddess is an irate bigot . Even though I mock the atheists and ridicule them , we still joke anytime and talk about other stuff like football . I wonder why she is taking everything personal . Her puerile insults and self acclaimed intelligence - which is conspicuously lacking - show she is immature , maybe a teen . Who knows

So I'm not the only one who noticed.

She looks down too much, and so she's bound to hit her head.

Age doesn't equate stup.idity. As a teen she needs to check herselfherself because education isn't intelligence and even the people that she thinks are less than she is actually have higher IQs than she does. I keep emphasizing that because education cannot be brightness. There's a difference between a science student spouting science and a science student trying to spout art and design.

My experience with the shallow bigot is that she's got a lot of baggage. And lacks intelligence. And will come crying in here very soon. And will try to waste your time on her.

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Re: The Atheists Test by naijapips02: 8:04am On Mar 12, 2016
KingEbukasBlog:


I have no argument ? Whho is this one ? Respond profoundly to this :



Why does man emulate nature , describes the emulation as intelligently designed but not what is being emulated ?

*** Like I told you on the other thread , if you wont give me cogent reasons , dont bother replying

what item in nature is my infinix joypad modelled after?
Re: The Atheists Test by KingEbukasBlog(m): 8:19am On Mar 12, 2016
naijapips02:


what item in nature is my infinix joypad modelled after?

This is a blatant non-sequitur , an evasive response .... can you tell me why the robodog or roboscorpion in the pics I posted are described as intelligent but not the dog or the scorpion which is being emulated .

By the way , your response agrees with the first argument I posted :

KingEbukasBlog:
The banana - a sure evidence of design

Like I told JackBizzle , man was presciently designed to dexterously invent , innovate - Phones , laptops , security systems , cars , houses , games , video games etc . Works of his hand and design of his body - look around and be rest assured there is an eternal creator .

## The Logic of God and EVERYTHING

If you can understand the above , please state your rebuttal clearly . Pay attention to the words "presciently" , "dexterously" and then the statement "Works of his hand and design of his body"

God had a foreknowledge that these inventions will come along at some point in man's existence . Evidently , man's creativity and skill made possible these inventions .

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Re: The Atheists Test by Kay17: 9:34am On Mar 12, 2016
What worries me about this lovely thread is the disorganized ramble going on.

So I will act as an umpire.
Re: The Atheists Test by bxcode(m): 9:56am On Mar 12, 2016
Guys really, there is no point in abusing each other, if you cant constructively convey your perceived belief to others without irking the person and resorting to insults, then you ve missed it. This thread was created for dialogue and discussion not to trade insults even tho at times with the theories and counter theories that pops up, one gets tempted to blast the other person into oblivion, but you can control it and ignore. Nice day everyonegrin

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Re: The Atheists Test by KingEbukasBlog(m): 10:16am On Mar 12, 2016
Kay17:
What worries me about this lovely thread is the disorganized ramble going on.
So I will act as an umpire.

heyy ...
Re: The Atheists Test by cloudgoddess(f): 10:34am On Mar 12, 2016
What was the point of this thread exactly? Why are you bashing atheists for not giving you the science education you should already have, and that is very difficult to present thoroughly with just a few online exchanges. Yet when we ATTEMPT to give at least a small, easily digestible amount of 100% verified information that all children in developed countries are already learning in their science classes. And what do you do with the information? You ignore it and call it a scam. WITHOUT EVEN ONE ATTEMPT TO UNDERSTAND. Where can any of us go from there? What are we supposed to do for you at that point?

It is clear that any argument here is pointless. These people have shown they are not willing to be reasonable, no amount of evidence can sway them. Instead they will do whatever they can to deflect any evidence provided, and then turn the argument into personal attacks and pretend victimization. All the while still providing no valid evidence for their side, yet pretending they are still somehow correct. (And by the way, even if all the science I posted was completely unsupported bullsh*t, the "God" or specifically the God of Abraham would still not be proven. That claim would still require legitimate evidence of its own merit, for which, no surprise, has not been presented. All I've seen so far are arguments from ignorance. "I don't know how it works so therefore GOD. And specifically my God, not Krishna or any of the thousands of others, for more reasons I haven't proven." )

Arguing with an ignorant person who is determined to stay that way is like attempting to play chess with a pigeon. Play all your pieces right and they will get on top of the board, knock all the pieces off, then strut around proudly as if they won.

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Re: The Atheists Test by frank317: 11:12am On Mar 12, 2016
cloudgoddess:
What was the point of this thread exactly? Why are you bashing atheists for not giving you the science education you should already have, and that is very difficult to present thoroughly with just a few online exchanges. Yet when we ATTEMPT to give at least a small, easily digestible amount of 100% verified information that all children in developed countries are already learning in their science classes. And what do you do with the information? You ignore it and call it a scam. WITHOUT EVEN ONE ATTEMPT TO UNDERSTAND. Where can any of us go from there? What are we supposed to do for you at that point?

It is clear that any argument here is pointless. These people have shown they are not willing to be reasonable, no amount of evidence can sway them. Instead they will do whatever they can to deflect any evidence provided, and then turn the argument into personal attacks and pretend victimization. All the while still providing no valid evidence for their side, yet pretending they are still somehow correct. (And by the way, even if all the science I posted was completely unsupported bullsh*t, the "God" or specifically the God of Abraham would still not be proven. That claim would still require legitimate evidence of its own merit, for which, no surprise, has not been presented. All I've seen so far are arguments from ignorance. "I don't know how it works so therefore GOD. And specifically my God, not Krishna or any of the thousands of others, for more reasons I haven't proven." )

Arguing with an ignorant person who is determined to stay that way is like attempting to play chess with a pigeon. Play all your pieces right and they will get on top of the board, knock all the pieces off, then strut around proudly as if they won.

Someone like Ebuka or winner should take this as a pill morning and night.

Funny ebuka is looking for a video proof of the nonexistent creator. And the absord thing is he keeps repeating this daft request like it makes sense to him. Seriously how does this guy do anything sensible in his life? I have never seen such a daft fellow in my life.

Why does the universe not need a creator? What's that?
Weather or not the universe has a creator what does it change? Does it stop people from dying? Does it stop me from going to work on Monday? Even if the universe have a creator... What difference does it make? How can a reasonable person chose to fight for a creator who has chosen to remain useless. How can a creator, given all the abilities u have ascribed to him (even though I don't know they know this) be so useless to a world he created and claims he loves?

For years people have just been claiming they have a creator yet this creator hides... He can't prove himself in any way.

Someone just said he reads Nairaland posts... Pls can this creator be more senseless?

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Re: The Atheists Test by Tellemall: 4:15pm On Mar 12, 2016
Lol.
Re: The Atheists Test by cloudgoddess(f): 4:52pm On Mar 12, 2016
Tellemall:


So I'm not the only one who noticed.

She looks down too much, and so she's bound to hit her head.

Age doesn't equate stup.idity. As a teen she needs to check herselfherself because education isn't intelligence and even the people that she thinks are less than she is actually have higher IQs than she does. I keep emphasizing that because education cannot be brightness. There's a difference between a science student spouting science and a science student trying to spout art and design.

My experience with the shallow bigot is that she's got a lot of baggage. And lacks intelligence. And will come crying in here very soon. And will try to waste your time on her.
Show me where I ever said I was smarter than you? Show me where I ever called you unintelligent or an idiot? Show me where I even made any claims about my intelligence or IQ? Pointless, distracting victimization and neither of us are getting anywhere in this discussion because of it.

Ignorance is NOT the same as unintelligence and I have made this clear in a previous thread. Ignorance is simply not knowing certain information, which is a state anyone can be in. If you have not learned something before, you can still learn it. Doesn't mean you are stupid or slow and I never suggested that. Ignorance is nothing to be ashamed of or insulted by IF one is willing to learn the information they are lacking.

My problem with you is that you have not shown any willingness at all to learn the information you yourself have been asking for, and have shown by your comments that you do not understand. How hard is it to watch a 6 minute video clip? You insist that no atheist has any reason to believe that the universe, the earth, and all the animals on it, were the natural work of natural processes rather than the creation of a supernatural entity. I bring resources that provide exactly those answers, and you ignore them and act like I am somehow being cocky, shallow, and bigoted for providing informations YOU ASKED FOR.

To me all it looks like, and correct me if I'm wrong, is that you are for some reason avoiding looking at the resources I posted, & insistent on attacking my character instead. And that is what is frustrating; it would be frustrating to anyone.
Re: The Atheists Test by UyiIredia(m): 4:52pm On Mar 12, 2016
timonski:
@op. May God bless you for this analogy.
But I have been thinking... What if the banana was created for anal penetration. I mean the inward curvature gives it a strong grip on the anus giving more pleasure than would a penis. The smooth skin makes it easy to penetrate without causing any discomfort whatever. Also, the banana while green has a 'handle' making it possible to pullout in a situation were the banana slides all the way through.
Surely, Yahweh in His infinite wisdom designed the BANANA........................For Anal Sex.

Crazy men! This got me cracking.
Re: The Atheists Test by fearlesschicken: 9:14pm On Mar 12, 2016
johnydon22:


The mods happened ooo embarassed

Hian! They chop craze ni?! seems so weird reading your post without bold and italic fonts....sad

maybe you can change font style?

oh well....I pray I get used to it grin
Re: The Atheists Test by johnydon22(m): 10:59pm On Mar 12, 2016
naijapips02:


Bro, the theists are not happy with you at all. I'm Sure your posts are being reported in droves each minute. To them you are the anti-christ.

Seun needs to do something should this. Seun when has bold writings and italics become a crime on here?

It was really not a funny thing to get banned and all my recent posts wiped out just for writing in my usual font

..lOl.. Make them no murder me with reports ooo. . .

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Re: The Atheists Test by johnydon22(m): 11:01pm On Mar 12, 2016
fearlesschicken:


Hian! They chop craze ni?! seems so weird reading your post without bold and italic fonts....sad

maybe you can change font style?

oh well....I pray I get used to it grin

Hahahahahaha i hope you do .. I am trying to get used to this one too.. feels weird to me too, the bold italics were kinda like my thing you know

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Re: The Atheists Test by johnydon22(m): 11:05am On Mar 13, 2016
KingEbukasBlog:


This is quite naive coming from you . There are theistic evolutionists because they felt the creation story is allegorical and God did it through evolution . They had to succumb to the pressure of being delineated as "backward" - embracing a modern scientific theory .

Hahahahahahaha first they understand the creation myth to be allegorical, well that's a very clear picture because if you are ever looking for answers regarding nature and go to religious books, you've got the wrong answer.

-there can never be day/night before the sun

-there can never be vegetation before the sun

-and the Bleep man is not earth's sand/dust cus if so man would have been predominantly made of silica.

-There was never a time any animal let alone a snake could talk (Only in folklores even Igbo Folklores carry such tales too)

They bowed to pressure? Noo i think rather they knew that every ancient myth regarding nature is just the ancient way of explaining the little about the cosmos they know of.

We have a thousand and one other creation myths from other cultures, nothing makes the one you believe special.

they are all naive but noble poetry... Enuma Elis is far more impressive..


I'm an old-earth creationist because there is no evidence for evolution - God did not do it through evolution .

You have always said Biology in fact natural sciences is never a strong point of yours.

I'm not gonna stretch it..

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Re: The Atheists Test by johnydon22(m): 11:08am On Mar 13, 2016
KingEbukasBlog:


Ok .. Ive heard you ... so where is your evidence that the universe needs no creator ?

Chai are you still playing this burden of proof reversal fallacy? grin Oh meeeeeehn embarassed

I bet you have proof that i do not have a pink flying diamond horse tied to my bed now..

The Onus is on the claimant to prove his claim not place that on the person who doubt it ... Chai grin

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Re: The Atheists Test by johnydon22(m): 11:12am On Mar 13, 2016
KingEbukasBlog:


Ugghh ... so how did strings derive that propensity to give rise to atoms and chaotic reactions thereafter ?

Its like you lack the understanding of the words "derive " and "propensity" .

Are you being disingenuous - in this case , a circumlocutory way of answering my questions

Like i said it all falls down again to your comprehensive ability or am i just seeing case of willful cognitive dissonance ?

If after explaining the most fundamental part of nature (strings) you still couldn't grab how nature entertained reactions then sorry i cannot help you, only you can help yourself by reading it over and over again...

Sorry to say if you are looking for anywhere "god" is invoked then you'd be disappointed forever, this is science not fairy tales.

There are thousands of gods humanity has conceived, any of them may well exist but none is needed to explain the cosmos.

Nature is the totality of all, the oneness of the bits..

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Re: The Atheists Test by KingEbukasBlog(m): 11:45am On Mar 13, 2016
johnydon22:


Like i said it all falls down again to your comprehensive ability or am i just seeing case of willful cognitive dissonance ?

If after explaining the most fundamental part of nature (strings) you still couldn't grab how nature entertained reactions then sorry i cannot help you, only you can help yourself by reading it over and over again...

Sorry to say if you are looking for anywhere "god" is invoked then you'd be disappointed forever, this is science not fairy tales.

There are thousands of gods humanity has conceived, any of them may well exist but none is needed to explain the cosmos.

Nature is the totality of all, the oneness of the bits..

You are trying so hard to preclude the existence of a creator . Anyway you can continue wallowing in your delusion .

Let me explain to you how dumb you sound :

Its like breaking codewords to characters and claiming that these characters gave the codes that propensity to carry out a particular function .

These codes below carry out a particular function

import java.io.*;
import javax.servlet.*;
import javax.servlet.http.*;
import java.sql.*;

Now breaking down these codes to characters i , m , p , o , r ,t and making unintelligent claims that they gave the quoted code the ability to carry out its function is asinine .

For the quoted codes to carry out a function , it should be the right syntax and appropriately as regards to the programming language .

Again . You dont understand the words "derive" and "propensity"

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Re: The Atheists Test by KingEbukasBlog(m): 12:00pm On Mar 13, 2016
johnydon22:


Hahahahahahaha first they understand the creation myth to be allegorical, well that's a very clear picture because if you are ever looking for answers regarding nature and go to religious books, you've got the wrong answer.

-there can never be day/night before the sun

-there can never be vegetation before the sun

-and the Bleep man is not earth's sand/dust cus if so man would have been predominantly made of silica.


-There was never a time any animal let alone a snake could talk (Only in folklores even Igbo Folklores carry such tales too)

They bowed to pressure? Noo i think rather they knew that every ancient myth regarding nature is just the ancient way of explaining the little about the cosmos they know of.

We have a thousand and one other creation myths from other cultures, nothing makes the one you believe special.

they are all naive but noble poetry... Enuma Elis is far more impressive..


You dont even understand the 7-day-creation story , so let me not bother engaging you . You create your own interpretation of any verse and ridicule it . grin

I tire oo .

You have always said Biology in fact natural sciences is never a strong point of yours.

I'm not gonna stretch it..


And you keep beating around the bush any time I introduce computer science . Every one has his strong suit . I believe if nature is being emulated by man and he says his emulation is intelligently designed then its blatant disingeniousness to say what is being emulated is not intelligently designed .

"Its like you are emulating your mum who has a good behaviour and someone commends your good behaviour and then you say that your mum whom you emulated does not have a good behaviour ."

The above does not make sense ... so no matter the rigmarole you'd spew ... its still dumb gibberish to me
Re: The Atheists Test by KingEbukasBlog(m): 12:15pm On Mar 13, 2016
johnydon22:


Chai are you still playing this burden of proof reversal fallacy? grin Oh meeeeeehn embarassed

I bet you have proof that i do not have a pink flying diamond horse tied to my bed now..

The Onus is on the claimant to prove his claim not place that on the person who doubt it ... Chai grin

Ok ... so where is your evidence that the universe needs no creator ?

winner01 ... this is like 6th page and this young man still haven't provided proof the universe needs no creator . I'm relishing the ludicrousness of your responses , johnydon22
Re: The Atheists Test by winner01(m): 12:28pm On Mar 13, 2016
KingEbukasBlog:


Ok ... so where is your evidence that the universe needs no creator ?

winner01 ... this is like 6th page and this young man still haven't provided proof the universe needs no creator . I'm relishing the ludicrousness of your responses , johnydon22
I see how hes been all over the place without any reasonable answer. Ive not been chanced to refute his unintelligent submissions even if they are worth refuting.
I should have some time to myself this evening.
How are things bro.

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Re: The Atheists Test by KingEbukasBlog(m): 12:29pm On Mar 13, 2016
winner01:
I see how hes been all over the place without any reasonable answer. Ive not been chanced to refute his unintelligent submissions even if they are worth refuting.
I should have some time to myself this evening.
How are things bro.

I thank God for everything oo ... how your side na ? smiley smiley
Re: The Atheists Test by virginboy1(m): 2:50pm On Mar 13, 2016
naijapips02:


Bro, the theists are not happy with you at all. I'm Sure your posts are being reported in droves each minute. To them you are the anti-christ.

Seun needs to do something should this. Seun when has bold writings and italics become a crime on here?
Hmmmm, I was actually wondering why Johnydon22 no longer write in bold, so His bold writings have become a threat. na wa ooo.

On the contrary if they see him as the Antichrist then I think we Christians need Antidevil to counter Mr Antichrist.

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