989900:


While I partially agree with you and by extension the old justices, OTOH, in the grand scheme of things, then Saraki's tactics worked perfectly well: try bribing the Judge, if he does not bulge, intimidate him, if he still does not cower, destabilize him and get him to react so you can have him off your case for one of yours to come and preside over the case.

What have the wise men in the article got to say about all of Saraki's shenanigans since the onset of this trial?

Or so far, what have they have said about 'paid justice' in our country as a whole?

The likes of antics like this, and the 'get-away-with-anything' modus operandi is the reason why we have all these calamities befallen upon us, and by whatever it takes, a new path has to be created.

Jail Saraki as a deterrent to others -- bottom line, he made false declaration by his own hand.

He is in court, let him clear his name if he is not guilty as charged . . . he has the option to pursue this further to the supreme court -- let him have at it.

jogojogo:


How is the rule of law not followed here and how better should it be followed? Remember Saraki lost in appeal court, supreme court and finally at a Federal High court in Lagos. So in all these, the rule of Law was not applied? I guess yes because Saratif could not have his way.

sammhi:

[s]very shallow thoughts propped up by partisanship rather rather than altruism... we are all hypocrites.. am sure if it was your god Tinubu or PMB , then you will reason properly...
point is is justice Umar the only judge in the CCT? obvious no., so why not anoda judge? first time I see a judge saying he must preside over a case whether the accused like it or not..that is bias in itself..Saraki should be tried but by another judge of CCT..so what is wrong with that?
why all these 15th century dogma in this era? like odimi wrote..you forget one day it may be your turn..then you will cry no one will listen[/s]

lestat:


Are you insane?

blackpanda:
And how much did saraki pay to these "eminent lawyers" for their "support"

Anuofias!

Saraki is jail bound whether he like it or yes

odikimi:

Let me refer you to Supreme Court cases on fair hearing; Uniuyo v. Nse, Oyakhire v. the State, Jang v. INEC.
The principle of fair hearing is the widest among the fundamental human rights of a man.
It restricts a judge from making certain comments that will show him as being bias. It bans a judge from interfering in a matter.
See Wike &ors v. Daukuku & ors. The Supreme Court held that Wike's right to fair hearing was violated.
In fair hearing, it is demanded that the Judge shouldn't have a business with either of the party that will or can influence the outcome or his disposition. Umar was set free by EFCC, you and I don't know what transpired between them that made them to seething him free, so you see. Please no insult but just read and digest this piece into your innermost and give a fair judgment. Remove the sins of Saraki and judge him as some one you don't even know or have issue with.

funlord:




What "due process" did saraki follow when he was looting his states funds, kwarans salaries, as well as the funds belonging to the investors in their failed banks?




So now it is time for equity? And by the way how come these hopeless quack judges are usually 'as silent as a graveyard' and never aware of these infringements on the law when less influential nigerians are in court? Or are your rights invisible?




Ol' boy, the government should fight as dirty as possible if need be in order to convict this man and get him the _fuck out of that position and even if this umar is a 'murderous armed robber' he has every right to try that loot loving bastard called saraki!



YOU LIVE BY THE SWORD, THEN BE READY TO ALSO DIE BY THE SWORD!!!

blackpanda:
And how much did saraki pay to these "eminent lawyers" for their "support"

Anuofias!

Saraki is jail bound whether he like it or yes

odikimi:

Let me give you instances where he breached section 36 of the constitution just to please ACJA:
His refusal to grant the adjournment when it was sought by kanu Agabi and went ahead with day to day trial is against the right of accused to have time and prepare for his matter.
His refusal to allow Oluyede to move the motion was a sham. He allowed Rotimi to adumbrate but refused the Applicant chance to reply on point of law which is against fair hearing in section 36 (1).
The trite position of the law is that, no matter how useless an application is, a judge is bound to take it. You can allow him to take the motion and adjourn for ruling on the motion while u go ahead with yo trial.

Prince16:








what manner of balderdash!

1. Eyahhhhh...., u want him killed. Why, if not dt u know he's guilty. Yet u believe he won't get "fair hearing" under Umar.

2. U want Umar 2 step down yet u never saw any reason 4 saraki 2 step down as SP!

3. You claim 2 be a lawyer yet u've already found him guilty even b4 conclusion; yet, 4 a judge who would most probably tow ur line, u accuse him of bias?! Hmmmm... Pot calling kettle black!

4. Scams/scums like chukwudi44 is beta dn u cos we already know their stand and dey don't mince words with it!

5. **spits**

#Lier.
#reverse~psychology!
#Green~snake~under~green~grass!


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Guys beware of snakes like d op!

blackpanda:
And how much did saraki pay to these "eminent lawyers" for their "support"

Anuofias!

Saraki is jail bound whether he like it or yes

blackpanda:
And how much did saraki pay to these "eminent lawyers" for their "support"

Anuofias!

Saraki is jail bound whether he like it or yes

sammhi:

I am forced to reason like a baboon since I am not human but something else in human form..so why don't you just let the Saraki to chill instead of jailing him or shooting him to death or doing whatever you wanted to ..why take him to court ? is that not waste of time and yeye due process ? Since he looted Kwara funds without due process , please spare us the court process too..just do what you like with him..I come from a clan of a bunch of nitwits anyway so forgive my _stupidity!
in the bible, the law God gave to Moses, A man must be pronounced guilty by a panel of judges and by clear evidence of 2-3 witnesses...infact, God said one witness is not enough...so God makes room for fair hearing since God is also a lawyer as I was taught...
but in my bigoted mind, since the man is good at stealing just leave him..no need for judges to sit ...
I love hypocrites.. I'm sure I am worse than Saraki if I am examined..

Barywhyte:


Bro. Let's be patriotic and be fair to this Country! After how many adjournments? So Agabi wasn't fully prepare after 8months in several courts clamoring for this case to be stopped? As for Oluyede, that was shameful script poorly played by Saraki's camp. Again Saraki has sought that the CCT be disqualified from hearing this case and Supreme court threw it away. Now you guys are bouncing on Umar after exhausting all options?

989900:


While I partially agree with you and by extension the old justices, OTOH, in the grand scheme of things, then Saraki's tactics worked perfectly well: try bribing the Judge, if he does not bulge, intimidate him, if he still does not cower, destabilize him and get him to react so you can have him off your case for one of yours to come and preside over the case.

What have the wise men in the article got to say about all of Saraki's shenanigans since the onset of this trial?

Or so far, what have they have said about 'paid justice' in our country as a whole?

The likes of antics like this, and the 'get-away-with-anything' modus operandi is the reason why we have all these calamities befallen upon us, and by whatever it takes, a new path has to be created.

Jail Saraki as a deterrent to others -- bottom line, he made false declaration by his own hand.

He is in court, let him clear his name if he is not guilty as charged . . . he has the option to pursue this further to the supreme court -- let him have at it.

Cuteamigo1:

well thanks for schooling me. I always wanna learn. as for Saraki whether he gets a fear hearing or not I don't really care because when him and his like decide to loot our country dry and fly the money out to Panama and Swiss banks they don't give us fear hearing at all. if you know what I mean

banio:
The Law is an ass. No wonder if a man is not careful a bitch(ass) will control his life.

But law tire person o. So the law NASS is passing is not recognised by Our Constitution or is the CCT not recognised by any law of the land. Anyway I am just thinking aloud

funlord:






Wow! I agree with all your points in this post! So true!



Now with all due respect you can go and eat _shit before _fucking off to go and die in a wasteland populated by the corpses of _morons such as yourself!

odikimi:
This was my argument but some people who allowed themselves to be controlled by emotions pour insults on my person.
This is why I can't respect Falana, I could remember Falana asking Fashola to remove chairman of panel set up to investigate Soldiers-BRT fiasco because the retired judge is a star witness to LASG in another matter. See http://www.vanguardngr.com/2014/07/brt-probe-falana-requests-fashola-remove-justice-adebajo-chairman/. But same Falana is quiet today because Saraki is corrupt. I want all corrupt politicians to be killed by Firing Squad but it has to follow due process.

I want Saraki to be killed, I don't have sympathy for him, but let us ensure fair hearing. What Umar is doing is against the principle of fair hearing. He has shown interest in the matter by descending into the matter. Let all ministers in the temple of justice demand for his resignation, this is a slap on the profession. It is a trite law that you take a motion once it is before you, no matter how childish the motion could be. see Julius Berger v. Isono a Supreme Court decision in the biter.

odikimi:

Your problem is that you don't understand English. Please read what you are quoting and see if I have found him guilty. I said I would loved seeing him being killed for corruption if found guilty but not the way the judge is going about it. Do you have a problem with understanding?
I hate him with passion but that doesn't mean I shouldn't agitate for fair hearing.

odikimi:
This was my argument but some people who allowed themselves to be controlled by emotions pour insults on my person.
This is why I can't respect Falana, I could remember Falana asking Fashola to remove chairman of panel set up to investigate Soldiers-BRT fiasco because the retired judge is a star witness to LASG in another matter. See http://www.vanguardngr.com/2014/07/brt-probe-falana-requests-fashola-remove-justice-adebajo-chairman/. But same Falana is quiet today because Saraki is corrupt. I want all corrupt politicians to be killed by Firing Squad but it has to follow due process.

I want Saraki to be killed, I don't have sympathy for him, but let us ensure fair hearing. What Umar is doing is against the principle of fair hearing. He has shown interest in the matter by descending into the matter. Let all ministers in the temple of justice demand for his resignation, this is a slap on the profession. It is a trite law that you take a motion once it is before you, no matter how childish the motion could be. see Julius Berger v. Isono a Supreme Court decision in the biter.

sammhi:

Mr funlord, obvious you are worse than Saraki.. even my written post you have altered in a corrupt way just to make a point
.hmmn. corruption personified.. why corrupt my original post ...you have revealed who you truly are.

I rest my case...

amaechi1:
The money allege to be squandered is not an issue to them. Taken paracetamol for another man's headache. Nonsense

DickDastardly post44958462:
Ok, but while condemning crime lets also ensure the process of prosecution and judgement doesnt take a jungle trajectory. We all cringe at seeing thieves being burnt alive by angry mobs and we always prefer they be taken to court, even if they still end up with a capital P.

odikimi:

On the issue of Agabi not being prepared, mind you he is not handling only Saraki's case.
On the issue of Umar, the Supreme Court never ruled on fair hearing. What the supreme court ruled on was whether the tribunal has jurisdiction on the ground that the A.G was not on seat, who should have ordered his trial, but the supreme court ruled otherwise, wish I support them because the office of the A.G is not tied to a man. This issue of fair hearing was never before the Supreme court. Please be well abreast with the case before you quote me out of context.

omonnakoda:

Your argument is funny. Why do you want Saraki killed? What EXACTLY is UMAR doing that is against the principle of fair hearing?What has any of this got to do with Falana. You say Umar showed interest by descending int the matter. What does that mean exactly .How did he descend? With regard to your claim that you take a motion no matter how childish and referencing JB vIsono , please provide a citation because I cannot find it and do not agree. At any rate he DISMISSED the motion and the Defendant can consolidate any dissatisfaction at appeal. To say ALL motions must be "taken" is meaningless .What does "TAKE" mean. A judge is well within his power to dismiss frivolous and time wasting motions and proceed with the substantive matter. Any grievance about conduct of trial should then go to appeal

odikimi:

Please answer me, was The motion moved by Oluyede given the needed audience? If yes, what was the ruling of the tribunal. Let me abreast you of his conduct, I mean Umar. After Oluyede stood up to move the motion, Rotimi objected to it and the judge asked, is that not same motion that the FHC ruled on? Rotimi answered him, yes my lord. then he dismiss the motion without given Oluyede right to adumbrate on his application. Please if you can't get JB v. Isono please you to research more on any it. Let me give you another precedent laid in that case " though the cross examiner has right to ask questions, such questions must be relevant to facts and case at hand thus the saying that, the sky is the limit in cross examination is an aberration".
I will get you the citation on Monday when I get to the office.
Mean while see for your assistance on when jurisdiction is raised and what the court shall do;
Afro-Continental
(Nig.) Ltd. & Anor. v. Co-operative Association of Professionals Inc.
(2003) 5 NWLR (Pt. 813) 303, (2003) 1 SCNJ 530 at 537,539."Per
Ogbuagu, J.C.A. (P. 135, paras. C-G)

omonnakoda:

Your argument is funny. Why do you want Saraki killed? What EXACTLY is UMAR doing that is against the principle of fair hearing?What has any of this got to do with Falana. You say Umar showed interest by descending int the matter. What does that mean exactly .How did he descend? With regard to your claim that you take a motion no matter how childish and referencing JB vIsono , please provide a citation because I cannot find it and do not agree. At any rate he DISMISSED the motion and the Defendant can consolidate any dissatisfaction at appeal. To say ALL motions must be "taken" is meaningless .What does "TAKE" mean. A judge is well within his power to dismiss frivolous and time wasting motions and proceed with the substantive matter. Any grievance about conduct of trial should then go to appeal