Well said. I think the most important thing in life is to have a focus and direction in all you do. Getting a degree abroad has its own merits but what matters most is the ability to take advantage of the exposure & enlightenment it offers in imparting your live and the society positively.

Opportunities abound everywhere. It is he who seizes time by the forelock that benefits most. I just completed my masters in SA recently and back at work in Naija but i can tell you that the experience was worthwhile and I have no regrets at all.

I think the point staggerlee is driving at is for people to have a clear mind on what they want to do & how it betters their life and not just travel for the fun of it.

May God bless our hustle (Amen).

quote author=muhaogunlo post=44872296]

You keep focusing on the rich people in Nigeria, you need to look at the bigger picture, the common man working tirelessly to enrich the rich people, not everyone is good doing business, I beg to disagree that you need millions to go for a masters in SA, as you didn't break a sweat to do your PG studies in SA, some other people don't break a sweat, also, there are schools in SA that give full tuition fee waiver for PG studies and you can even apply for scholarships even though it's quite competitive, it's not impossible to get. I agree there are no odd jobs but there are tutorship opportunities and some schools in SA even give free accommodation to PG students. Tell me you were sad when you got your PR. Or that you will return your PR when going back to Nigeria then I'll agree with you that you are really sure you don't need to have a plan B when going back to Nigeria. The point is, PG studies in SA or any other country in the world opens your eyes to opportunities and removes the limitation you get in Nigeria due to the lack of basic amenities. You've got that eye opener thats why you are going back home to invest in the economy. I think you should rather encourage more people to get that eye opener than discourage them, they don't have to stay after their PG studies but the basic thing is that they will leave as a better person, if not financially then intellectually. [/quote]

muhaogunlo:


You keep focusing on the rich people in Nigeria, you need to look at the bigger picture, the common man working tirelessly to enrich the rich people, not everyone is good doing business, I beg to disagree that you need millions to go for a masters in SA, as you didn't break a sweat to do your PG studies in SA, some other people don't break a sweat, also, there are schools in SA that give full tuition fee waiver for PG studies and you can even apply for scholarships even though it's quite competitive, it's not impossible to get. I agree there are no odd jobs but there are tutorship opportunities and some schools in SA even give free accommodation to PG students. Tell me you were sad when you got your PR. Or that you will return your PR when going back to Nigeria then I'll agree with you that you are really sure you don't need to have a plan B when going back to Nigeria. The point is, PG studies in SA or any other country in the world opens your eyes to opportunities and removes the limitation you get in Nigeria due to the lack of basic amenities. You've got that eye opener thats why you are going back home to invest in the economy. I think you should rather encourage more people to get that eye opener than discourage them, they don't have to stay after their PG studies but the basic thing is that they will leave as a better person, if not financially then intellectually.

I will give u an instance, a friend of mine came to do his MBA, he paid a whooping school fees of 3.2 mill, living expenses for another 1.5m for a year. Plane ticket, visa fees and all let's just say 400k. After his MBA, immigration laws changed he couldn't get a work permit, he wasted like 6 months he couldn't get a work permit. As at the time he was leaving for SA he was an ABO in a bank earning 235k a month, so he had no choice but to go back to naija, luckily his bank hired him back as an ABO, his colleagues had become BO some SBO. He spent close to 6m on an MBA and still came back to the same job. Imagine if he had bought a 6m car and put this into Uber and making 200k car on the car, don't u feel that is better than his MBA. His mates over took him.

Am not sure whether u realised that getting a permit in SA is so difficult now, when Gigaba took over the reins in 2014, DHA changed. As at the time I applied for my PR, 7 others applied that I know, I and my wife were the only one approved. Till today I count myself a miracle. If you are planning to stay after your PG in SA, its a tough one, SA people don't want us anymore, that's the plain truth. The economy of SA isn't smiling like before. As at the time I got here dollar was about 8 rands, now it is 14.32 (it got to 16 in dec)and is just getting better. Interest rate was less than 4% now it is 7%. Those tutor jobs don't pay your bills, maybe u earn at most 2.5k a month and its seasonal what happens to when underG's are on break?
You talk about tuition fees been free, how many non SA gets those tuition free now when SA people are shouting fees must fall. So if u get tuition fees free what happens to accommodation and feeding? Its still a lot of money. I was blessed to get my PR on a platter of gold and not 10% can be that lucky again.
Finally there is a clause on my PR that says I have to be in the republic at least once every 3 years or I forfeit it, I will gladly forfeit it if I have to be away for 2 years. Its not a do or die affair for me to have a PR, have seen someone forgoing a green card how much more a south african PR.

Good morning, please i will like to know if one get automatic admission for Msc after going through Honours, and whats the fees compare to that of the Msc?

eben1991:
Good morning, please i will like to know if one get automatic admission for Msc after going through Honours, and whats the fees compare to that of the Msc?

Yes if u get a good score in your honours say an average of 65%, you should be able to get in for MSc. Honours for a Non South African and a non PR holder you will pay about R70k but depends on school and course

Please is there anyone here doing MPH at UP or any other University @ SA here

Please house any member here in Cape Town that can help I need to exchange some naira to rand ,thanks in anticipation.

[quote author=henryogb post=44928775]Please house any member here in Cape Town that can help I need to exchange some naira to rand ,thanks i can help you and were are you

staggerlee:
Hello forum, I just got back from Lagos, I have not been in lagos for 2 years. So I visited for 2 weeks. All I could see are opportunities. Really I don't see why people stress themselves to come to SA, as a matter of fact I am winding up my activities in SA and coming to come back to Lagos, I have given myself 3 years to do this. None of my friends that I left in lagos is on the same levelthey are all doing better. Apart from kia and hyudia there is no brand new car less than 5 million, yet people buy brand new cars daily and u can't see a 2015 model of car still on display as brand new, most 2015 cars are sold. Its only in Nigeria a house can be 250 million and u see pple paying cash upfront.
I think Nigeria has all the potentials, staying in another man's land isn't it at all. Mind you, by the grace of God I can never apply for any kind of visa in SA again as I am a permanent resident permit holder so I am not saying all these because I am frustrated.

1. Do you think there are Nigerians living in SA that are doing better than their friends in Nigeria?

2. Why do you want to wait for 3yrs and not now?

justwise:


1. Do you think there are Nigerians living in SA that are doing better than their friends in Nigeria?

2. Why do you want to wait for 3yrs and not now?

Being successful is not a function of location, truth is we need not stress ourselves to leave naija, some pple are world millionaires in Burkinafaso (one time the 4th poorest country). It is easier to be successful in your home country than a foreign land like SA.

3 years is the max I can leave, I have a job here I can't just leave, my wife has a career here so when u are a family man u don't just take decisions on your own. I am still pursuing my doctorate degree, it must be completed, but have started a process in Nigeria that will take me back and forth at interval till I go back and settle finally

staggerlee:


Being successful is not a function of location, truth is we need not stress ourselves to leave naija, some pple are world millionaires in Burkinafaso (one time the 4th poorest country). It is easier to be successful in your home country than a foreign land like SA.

3 years is the max I can leave, I have a job here I can't just leave, my wife has a career here so when u are a family man u don't just take decisions on your own. I am still pursuing my doctorate degree, it must be completed, but have started a process in Nigeria that will take me back and forth at interval till I go back and settle finally

That first line defeated the rest of your comments.

You used your situation and that of your friends as an example but we have at least 150m people in Nigeria and majority are not privileged as you are.

There are Nigerians doing very well all over the world who couldn't do the same while in Nigeria.

Doing well is a relative term because for some people they just want to have some basic things in life...electricity, water, good road, basic education and security, this is what Nigeria can not offer to many of her citizens now.


SA gave you the opportunity to gain your education on that high level probably on scholarship? And you are able to set time target to achieve that, can you set the same target in Nigeria and achieve it without political issues and lecturer's strike interfering?

You guys are missing a point here, SA 5 or 6 years ago was much better, now they don't want us. Before a medical doctor can come to SA and get a job the next day, now it is no more that easy. They have made it so hard for foreign doctors to practice in SA, so if u think someone came here 2010 and he is already shining now means that someone will come now and shine in 2020 its a falacy. SA don hard my brothers, I live here and I know. People on work permit are returned at the airport cos the immigration officer can't see ur tax file or returns. Imagine living here and working here and u are returned after a trip out of SA.

staggerlee:
You guys are missing a point here, SA 5 or 6 years ago was much better, now they don't want us. Before a medical doctor can come to SA and get a job the next day, now it is no more that easy. They have made it so hard for foreign doctors to practice in SA, so if u think someone came here 2010 and he is already shining now means that someone will come now and shine in 2020 its a falacy. SA don hard my brothers, I live here and I know. People on work permit are returned at the airport cos the immigration officer can't see ur tax file or returns. Imagine living here and working here and u are returned after a trip out of SA.

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you have a point tho. i school here so i know how difficult it is. no job for foreigners again. there is this Nigerian guy in my school, he cum"d his undergrad, cum"d honors and cum"d masters in actuarial science but they still tell him in companies that they cant take him cz he is foreign. to cum your degree is equivalent to a first class in Nigeria

justwise:


That first line defeated the rest of your comments.

You used your situation and that of your friends as an example but we have at least 150m people in Nigeria and majority are not privileged as you are.

There are Nigerians doing very well all over the world who couldn't do the same while in Nigeria.

Doing well is a relative term because for some people they just want to have some basic things in life...electricity, water, good road, basic education and security, this is what Nigeria can not offer to many of her citizens now.


SA gave you the opportunity to gain your education on that high level probably on scholarship? And you are able to set time target to achieve that, can you set the same target in Nigeria and achieve it without political issues and lecturer's strike interfering?

I have never applied or got any scholarship before. People do get but I never did. It is now so hard to get scholarship as a no SA citizen or Permanent resident. People will tell you I just need the basics, water, power and fuel. let them get it you will now see that is not what they really want. just 5 days back in SA i am missing Lagos, the friendly people, the love, the rice and dodo, the night life on the island and so many more, yet the light and water i have can not take the place of what I miss in Lagos. i dont have to carry my ID book around in Lagos like I do here in SA. I am free, here everyone makes me know even though have got an ID i am still a foreigner and that to me sucks big time

Final advise, people will tell you its greener at the other side, I say with all sincerity, it isnt greener anymore in SA. For me its been a good ride for me, but its getting really harder for new people coming in.

staggerlee:



I have never applied or got any scholarship before. People do get but I never did. It is now so hard to get scholarship as a no SA citizen or Permanent resident. People will tell you I just need the basics, water, power and fuel. let them get it you will now see that is not what they really want. just 5 days back in SA i am missing Lagos, the friendly people, the love, the rice and dodo, the night life on the island and so many more, yet the light and water i have can not take the place of what I miss in Lagos. i dont have to carry my ID book around in Lagos like I do here in SA. I am free, here everyone makes me know even though have got an ID i am still a foreigner and that to me sucks big time

Final advise, people will tell you its greener at the other side, I say with all sincerity, it isnt greener anymore in SA. For me its been a good ride for me, but its getting really harder for new people coming in.

Then you don't have to wait for 3yrs you can start moving back to Nigeria to enjoy the wonderful life there this year.

Its very easy to visit and make judgement but when you have to live there permanently to see what people go through then you understand better.

Tell me one thing that works in Nigeria that you are proud of?

Survival of the fittest by hook or by crook is not life

[quote author=liv123 post=44943068][/quote] how do I contAct u

justwise:
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Then you don't have to wait for 3yrs you can start moving back to Nigeria to enjoy the wonderful life there this year.

Its very easy to visit and make judgement but when you have to live there permanently to see what people go through then you understand better.

Tell me one thing that works in Nigeria that you are proud of?

Survival of the fittest by hook or by crook is not life

I think you have taken this personal. I don't think u live in SA, to see the number of foreign gradutes that can't renew or get permits hence they are jobless.

Can u compare it to the number of jobless graduates in Nigeria that can't even find menial jobs to put food on their table?

staggerlee:


I think you have taken this personal. I don't think u live in SA, to see the number of foreign gradutes that can't renew or get permits hence they are jobless.

I believe that Nigeria would be great at some point.

The choice of staying outside Nigeria for better education or work or search for green pasture is solely personal.

I understand the life in SA. You make your money and pay huge bills - rentals, utilities, taxes, etc. Income is high, quality of life is better and you develop your God given potentials.

Would you be a better person with a global worldview? This is sure.

Would you strive to improve the society? Yes, as you have better exposure to impart your local society.

staggerlee:


I think you have taken this personal. I don't think u live in SA, to see the number of foreign gradutes that can't renew or get permits hence they are jobless.

In most cases they don't meet the requirements so you don't blame SA govt. That is the case everywhere not only in SA.

People leave Nigeria and other African countries because 'home' got little to offer them.

Do you see South Africans traveling out for greener pasture like other African countries do?

SA is the youngest country in Africa but how come older brother Nigeria with enormous resource is in shamble?


You have money in Nigeria but you can't buy fuel, you can afford to pay for constant electricity but you can't have one.

You can afford to buy a car but roads are dead trap.

You can afford to go to any school but your chances of finishing that course is limited.

Tell me what is good about Nigeria right now.

Don't let anyone discourage you if you have a good intention to study and stay in SA thereafter. I am a practical testimony. I came here in March 2015 for my Master degree. I applied for my school scholarship and waited for nine months but it was not forthcoming. I was living on the little cash I brought from Nigeria. My rent was R2,000 per month, I cook my food by myself so I spend less than R1,000 a month. I am a quite person, so I don't go out that much, all I spend on Taxi a month is less than R200 (Taxi is R5 per trip in my city) sometimes I walk to school, maximum 15 minute. Taking that into consideration I spend R3,200 per month (N64,000 per month). Mind you, I don't pay for electricity and water, that is part of the rent, I don't pay school fee, my school offer tuition-free for Master by Research. Sometimes in September 2015, all PG students got a mail from the Research Office that we should apply for NRF (National Research Fund) 2015, I applied and among the 22 Master degree students that got it, only 2 Nigerians were on the list and I was one of the two. What amount are we talking about here? R80,000 (Eighty thousand Rand). I got that in December 2015, I couldn't access it before I traveled down to Nigeria for Christmas holiday. When I returned in January 2016, I got the money in my account. Then come February 2016, we got another mail to apply for renewal of our NRF scholarship (for Master it 2-years; PhD 3-years), I did and in March 2016, I got another R80,000 (Eighty thousand Rand). All these without knowing anybody or speaking to someone. All through God's grace.

Not everyone earn R2,500 for tutoring. I am also tutoring and I earn nothing less than R4,000/month it's 20 hours per week at R50 per hour (Although you can only tutor for two and half month per semester). Another Nigerian just got registered in my department February 2016 and he is already tutoring for minimum R4,000. That pay his rent.

Now I will be graduating come September 2016 by God grace and my supervisor, an Indian, who happen to be a nice man, he is also an Executive Member of ESKOM Board, his already advising me to go for a 3-year graduate training in ESKOM with a good pay to go before I begin my PhD. (I know say I go get am. Not every man dey suffer, our head are not the same).

My Critical Skill Work Permit will soon land in my hand in a matter of weeks (I read sometimes ago on this platform where that guy said it is not possible to change from Student Visa to Work Visa - I just dey do my own thing jeje) and my wife and children will be following me to SA permanently in January 2017 when I return to Nigeria in December 2016. At least I have a plan to live in South Africa for maximum 12 years before I return home to play politics. My senior brother, a Professor, who came here in 2013 got his Work Permit and Permanent Residence Permit within 18-month. He left SA after he finished his Post-Doctoral Fellowship in 12 month, he is doing fine in Nigeria as always. His friend, a lady from Unilag also got her PR and relocated her husband and three children. So everyone with his or her own destiny and desire. Nobody should dissuade anyone from relocating to any part of the world, so far it is legally done.

If you have a VISION and you commit your PLANS into God's hand. If all foreigners are complaining, I tell you, you will not have a reason to complain.

My candid advise to anyone coming, make sure you process your Student Visa yourself, don't pay any agent. I did mine all alone. Come with cash that can pay your rent for minimum 12 months, so that you don't sleep on the street (No padi-padi for Southy, even if your brother get all the Rand) before then you will find your level.

DON'T BE DISCOURAGE BY STORIES.

Shine1177:
Don't let anyone discourage you if you have a good intention to study and stay in SA thereafter. I am a practical testimony. I came here in March 2015 for my Master degree. I applied for my school scholarship and waited for nine months but it was not forthcoming. I was living on the little cash I brought from Nigeria. My rent was R2,000 per month, I cook my food by myself so I spend less than R1,000 a month. I am a quite person, so I don't go out that much, all I spend on Taxi a month is less than R200 (Taxi is R5 per trip in my city) sometimes I walk to school, maximum 15 minute. Taking that into consideration I spend R3,200 per month (N64,000 per month). Mind you, I don't pay for electricity and water, that is part of the rent, I don't pay school fee, my school offer tuition-free for Master by Research. Sometimes in September 2015, all PG students got a mail from the Research Office that we should apply for NRF (National Research Fund) 2015, I applied and among the 22 Master degree students that got it, only 2 Nigerians were on the list and I was one of the two. What amount are we talking about here? R80,000 (Eighty thousand Rand). I got that in December 2015, I couldn't access it before I traveled down to Nigeria for Christmas holiday. When I returned in January 2016, I got the money in my account. Then come February 2016, we got another mail to apply for renewal of our NRF scholarship (for Master it 2-years; PhD 3-years), I did and in March 2016, I got another R80,000 (Eighty thousand Rand). All these without knowing anybody or speaking to someone. All through God's grace.

Not everyone earn R2,500 for tutoring. I am also tutoring and I earn nothing less than R4,000/month it's 20 hours per week at R50 per hour (Although you can only tutor for two and half month per semester). Another Nigerian just got registered in my department February 2016 and he is already tutoring for minimum R4,000. That pay his rent.

Now I will be graduating come September 2016 by God grace and my supervisor, an Indian, who happen to be a nice man, he is also an Executive Member of ESKOM Board, his already advising me to go for a 3-year graduate training in ESKOM with a good pay to go before I begin my PhD. (I know say I go get am. Not every man dey suffer, our head are not the same).

My Critical Skill Work Permit will soon land in my hand in a matter of weeks (I read sometimes ago on this platform where that guy said it is not possible to change from Student Visa to Work Visa - I just dey do my own thing jeje) and my wife and children will be following me to SA permanently in January 2017 when I return to Nigeria in December 2016. At least I have a plan to live in South Africa for maximum 12 years before I return home to play politics. My senior brother, a Professor, who came here in 2013 got his Work Permit and Permanent Residence Permit within 18-month. He left SA after he finished his Post-Doctoral Fellowship in 12 month, he is doing fine in Nigeria as always. His friend, a lady from Unilag also got her PR and relocated her husband and three children. So everyone with his or her own destiny and desire. Nobody should dissuade anyone from relocating to any part of the world, so far it is legally done.

If you have a VISION and you commit your PLANS into God's hand. If all foreigners are complaining, I tell you, you will not have a reason to complain.

My candid advise to anyone coming, make sure you process your Student Visa yourself, don't pay any agent. I did mine all alone. Come with cash that can pay your rent for minimum 12 months, so that you don't sleep on the street (No padi-padi for Southy, even if your brother get all the Rand) before then you will find your level.

DON'T BE DISCOURAGE BY STORIES.

I find some untruths in yours story, first I find it hard to gulp that you pay rent of R2000 in todays SA, with electricty when electricity went up April 1st by 9.4%. U must be staying in a bush or one township like Kayaleisha. I have never doubted the fact that u can't get scholarships but how many do get? And also for what courses? Is it available to every foreigner in every field? You shout critical skills WP, have you joined ECSA, do u know the stress to get critical skills now compared to getting exceptional skills WP, 3 years ago. Look at the new immigration act of 2014, you can't work in ESKOM unless u have an I.D that is a PR holder. You can't be in any govt parastital with WP unless u are a consultant. You claim to have gotten NRF, how many do get it? Your case is an exception not the norm. U claim to earn 4.5 per month as a tutor, do u earn this amount in jan, feb, june, july, nov, dec? Don't come here and paint sa like its one heaven abeg.

NaGodwin:
Can u compare it to the number of jobless graduates in Nigeria that can't even find menial jobs to put food on their table?

My brother it is better to be jobless in Nigeria than to be jobless in a foreign country like SA. Ofcos there are more jobless gradutes in Nigeria, no doubts, but a Nigerian being jobless in SA is like a death sentence, in naija u can go and sell gala u can't try that as a foreigner here. So no basis for comparism

staggerlee:


I find some untruths in yours story, first I find it hard to gulp that you pay rent of R2000 in todays SA, with electricty when electricity went up April 1st by 9.4%. U must be staying in a bush or one township like Kayaleisha. I have never doubted the fact that u can't get scholarships but how many do get? And also for what courses? Is it available to every foreigner in every field? You shout critical skills WP, have you joined ECSA, do u know the stress to get critical skills now compared to getting exceptional skills WP, 3 years ago. Look at the new immigration act of 2014, you can't work in ESKOM unless u have an I.D that is a PR holder. You can't be in any govt parastital with WP unless u are a consultant. You claim to have gotten NRF, how many do get it? Your case is an exception not the norm. U claim to earn 4.5 per month as a tutor, do u earn this amount in jan, feb, june, july, nov, dec? Don't come here and paint sa like its one heaven abeg.

Mr staggerlee please not everybody tells lies okay. What shine1177 said was truth.(As per his accommodation is staying in DURBAN CITY and not bush nor township as you said) This forum is for us to share our experiences not to discourage people. Sir there is no any stress to get critical work permit when you have all necessary document required for the permit and God's favour. Then less i forget you said you are doing your PhD in SA now, i believe you can still continue with your program in Nigerian now to join your friends and enjoying what they are enjoying at home. I know there is no job in SA not even in Nigeria and throughout the world. But you are not the position to discourage people because you are still in the same country that you are condemning. Please share your experience and your testimonies not to discourage people. As far as people are coming on academic ground please don't discourage them because you are a student there. Thanks.

Mr Staggerlee , na only you wan chop southy money .... you dey discourage people but you dey there .. why you no abandon everything come here sake of say you no like the place , anybody wey listen to this guy .. you dey on your own ooo .. wetin go work for you fit no work for anoda person , its a norm , its either you make or you dont .. if the ones wey don tay for nigeria never make am .. and some do make am... you fit reach SA today and you oo make am , make you reach USA make everything spoil for you .. everything na destiny .. and to follow your heart .. no go follow word of mouth .. its better to blame yourself for your misfortune than to blame somebody else ...

femiaction:
Mr staggerlee please not everybody tells lies okay. What shine1177 said was truth.(As per his accommodation is staying in DURBAN CITY and not bush nor township as you said) This forum is for us to share our experiences not to discourage people. Sir there is no any stress to get critical work permit when you have all necessary document required for the permit and God's favour. Then less i forget you said you are doing your PhD in SA now, i believe you can still continue with your program in Nigerian now to join your friends and enjoying what they are enjoying at home. I know there is no job in SA not even in Nigeria and throughout the world. But you are not the position to discourage people because you are still in the same country that you are condemning. Please share your experience and your testimonies not to discourage people. As far as people are coming on academic ground please don't discourage them because you are a student there. Thanks.

My job is tied to my PHD. I can not leave SA now. I am not making this personal, my point is don't stress ur self to come to SA. U can come and do masters or phd here and if u get favour its fine. Critical skills is much more difficult in comparism to exceptional skills. SA is not worth selling ur property to move to. Dony leave naija planing on u will get a scholarship

staggerlee:


I find some untruths in yours story, first I find it hard to gulp that you pay rent of R2000 in todays SA, with electricty when electricity went up April 1st by 9.4%. U must be staying in a bush or one township like Kayaleisha. I have never doubted the fact that u can't get scholarships but how many do get? And also for what courses? Is it available to every foreigner in every field? You shout critical skills WP, have you joined ECSA, do u know the stress to get critical skills now compared to getting exceptional skills WP, 3 years ago. Look at the new immigration act of 2014, you can't work in ESKOM unless u have an I.D that is a PR holder. You can't be in any govt parastital with WP unless u are a consultant. You claim to have gotten NRF, how many do get it? Your case is an exception not the norm. U claim to earn 4.5 per month as a tutor, do u earn this amount in jan, feb, june, july, nov, dec? Don't come here and paint sa like its one heaven abeg.

I have always try to avoid you on this platform due to the way you go about your advise to in-coming Nigerians and if you check my profile, I hardly make comment here, I only come here to read comment and go. Femiaction is my neigbour and church member and he knows that all I have said on this forum is true. I live in Durban CBD (see the attached picture. I took that picture from my bedroom both day & night view of Durban Seaport). Sometimes last year when Wizkid and his friends came to Durban Seaport to celebrate that All-White birthday party on a Yatch, i told my friend that see what our celebrity are dying to flex, the same Yatch I can rent for R1000 - I mean it is at my backyard.

You make everything seem hard to get in South Africa. You know what I usually tell people like you anytime I meet such? I always say since you say South Africa is bad now, it is not as good as it was 5 or 10 years ago. i use to ask them "What good did they achieve those years they claim the country was good? Most of them wasted opportunities, now that those things are gone, they started complaining. For your information foreigners are making it big time in SA and foreigners will still continue to make it big time in many years to come in South Africa and foreigner will never stop to come into any country for that matter for life. Ilu to k'o waju s'eni kan, eyin lo ko s'omo e'lo mi (The drum that faces a man is also backing another man). It depend on the side of the coin you get. You sound PAINED. No be by year wey you don spend o, nah the grace of God wey we carry, the grace different as our face differs).

Femiaction got registered as ECSA member from Lagos, Nigeria and he was issued his 5-years Critical Skill Work Permit in Lagos. His wife is doing her PhD while he is doing his PG studies now. I remember you told him on this forum that it is not possible to use Work Permit to study in any SA university. I remember he replied you that it is God doing. We should learn not to be dogmatic. I came to South Africa with a 3-year Student Visa in March 2015, now I am a registered member of ECSA that is why I could submit my application for 5-years Critical Skill Work Permit towards obtaining my Permanent Residence Permit. I read you advising one guy like that not to think about it because it is not possible to change from Study Permit to Work Permit, I just look and pass, 'wetin concern me'. When the Permit land in my hand in a matter of weeks, I will buzz you brother. The new guy that I said just came from Nigeria in February 2016 to my department, I have been putting him through the processing to get his Work Permit also. He has done his MIE evaluation within 8 week, he should be submitting his application for ECSA evaluation next week when he collect his Tutorship salary. Dey dia dey form I know it all.

As much as some of your statement are valid about working in government parastastal, you should learn how to believe other Nigerians when they tell you their stories. Imagine how you think I live in KwaMashu. For your information, I meet a Nigerian in RCCG last month, this guy is a Master student like me and he drives two (2) cars. Another lecturer when he came some years ago as a student drove 3-cars as a studet, he is now a Professor in Mogosuthu University of Technology. You may say they are doing drugs. Nay so people wey no se front dey also talk. I asked that guy how come he has two cars as a student, he told me how easy it is to get a VW Golf for R35,000 and how he bought his Honda 2010 R45,000 from the the fund he got and junior lecturer slot that his Professor gave at UKZN Howard Campus. I that just came in last year can afford to buy a car of R50,000 as a student now by the Grace of God. Those who don't know anything will say I am doing drugs. Well if you decide to close your eye to the the good of the land, it will definitely pass you by. At least I have meet Samtol and femiaction who are Nairalander in Durban.

Mr. Nigeria, make you hurry go help Buhari fix Nigeria.

Abeg make dem no discourage you if you get good plan and Baba God for you. Just look dem and pass.

femiaction:
Mr staggerlee please not everybody tells lies okay. What shine1177 said was truth.(As per his accommodation is staying in DURBAN CITY and not bush nor township as you said) This forum is for us to share our experiences not to discourage people. Sir there is no any stress to get critical work permit when you have all necessary document required for the permit and God's favour. Then less i forget you said you are doing your PhD in SA now, i believe you can still continue with your program in Nigerian now to join your friends and enjoying what they are enjoying at home. I know there is no job in SA not even in Nigeria and throughout the world. But you are not the position to discourage people because you are still in the same country that you are condemning. Please share your experience and your testimonies not to discourage people. As far as people are coming on academic ground please don't discourage them because you are a student there. Thanks.

I do not condemn any city rather I promote my country. SA has tried for all of us and I will always be grateful.

You came here with critical skills as an engineer with mad experience, you couldn't get a job but you still couldn't get a job, now u have gone to study breaking immigration rules because u have not reported to DHA that you have got a job. Or don't you know that's a condition on ur critical skills? I am only been frank, I am not discouraging anybody. SA is beautiful but it has no greener grasses

Let no one be discouraged.

If Nigeria hasn't been comfortable for you and you have a legitimate reason for going to SA... Why not?

If SA isn't going on well for you, why not also return home?

It's simply a matter of choice and what works for each person.

@shine1177 Do you attend the RCCG Chapel of Praise? I was there last Sunday as a newbie