Shine1177:


I have always try to avoid you on this platform due to the way you go about your advise to in-coming Nigerians and if you check my profile, I hardly make comment here, I only come here to read comment and go. Femiaction is my neigbour and church member and he knows that all I have said on this forum is true. I live in Durban CBD (see the attached picture. I took that picture from my bedroom both day & night view of Durban Seaport). Sometimes last year when Wizkid and his friends came to Durban Seaport to celebrate that All-White birthday party on a Yatch, i told my friend that see what our celebrity are dying to flex, the same Yatch I can rent for R1000 - I mean it is at my backyard.

You make everything seem hard to get in South Africa. You know what I usually tell people like you anytime I meet such? I always say since you say South Africa is bad now, it is not as good as it was 5 or 10 years ago. i use to ask them "What good did they achieve those years they claim the country was good? Most of them wasted opportunities, now that those things are gone, they started complaining. For your information foreigners are making it big time in SA and foreigners will still continue to make it big time in many years to come in South Africa and foreigner will never stop to come into any country for that matter for life. Ilu to k'o waju s'eni kan, eyin lo ko s'omo e'lo mi (The drum that faces a man is also backing another man). It depend on the side of the coin you get. You sound PAINED. No be by year wey you don spend o, nah the grace of God wey we carry, the grace different as our face differs).

Femiaction got registered as ECSA member from Lagos, Nigeria and he was issued his 5-years Critical Skill Work Permit in Lagos. His wife is doing her PhD while he is doing his PG studies now. I remember you told him on this forum that it is not possible to use Work Permit to study in any SA university. I remember he replied you that it is God doing. We should learn not to be dogmatic. I came to South Africa with a 3-year Student Visa in March 2015, now I am a registered member of ECSA that is why I could submit my application for 5-years Critical Skill Work Permit towards obtaining my Permanent Residence Permit. I read you advising one guy like that not to think about it because it is not possible to change from Study Permit to Work Permit, I just look and pass, 'wetin concern me'. When the Permit land in my hand in a matter of weeks, I will buzz you brother. The new guy that I said just came from Nigeria in February 2016 to my department, I have been putting him through the processing to get his Work Permit also. He has done his MIE evaluation within 8 week, he should be submitting his application for ECSA evaluation next week when he collect his Tutorship salary. Dey dia dey form I know it all.

As much as some of your statement are valid about working in government parastastal, you should learn how to believe other Nigerians when they tell you their stories. Imagine how you think I live in KwaMashu. For your information, I meet a Nigerian in RCCG last month, this guy is a Master student like me and he drives two (2) cars. Another lecturer when he came some years ago as a student drove 3-cars as a studet, he is now a Professor in Mogosuthu University of Technology. You may say they are doing drugs. Nay so people wey no se front dey also talk. I asked that guy how come he has two cars as a student, he told me how easy it is to get a VW Golf for R35,000 and how he bought his Honda 2010 R45,000 from the the fund he got and junior lecturer slot that his Professor gave at UKZN Howard Campus. I that just came in last year can afford to buy a car of R50,000 as a student now by the Grace of God. Those who don't know anything will say I am doing drugs. Well if you decide to close your eye to the the good of the land, it will definitely pass you by. At least I have meet Samtol and femiaction who are Nairalander in Durban.

Mr. Nigeria, make you hurry go help Buhari fix Nigeria.

Abeg make dem no discourage you if you get good plan and Baba God for you. Just look dem and pass.

staggerlee:


I do not condemn any city rather I promote my country. SA has tried for all of us and I will always be grateful.

You came here with critical skills as an engineer with mad experience, you couldn't get a job but you still couldn't get a job, now u have gone to study breaking immigration rules because u have not reported to DHA that you have got a job. Or don't you know that's a condition on ur critical skills? I am only been frank, I am not discouraging anybody. SA is beautiful but it has no greener grasses

staggerlee:


I laugh at your folly for you to think I am pained about the system. I have benefitted so much in the system. I have a very good job, my job takes me round the globe, same with my wife who even has a better job than I do. But I won't use my situation to categorise every other person. By the grace of God in a couple of weeks am bringing pple into SA from naija to come and train. Mechanical engineers (Nigerians) I think I sent femi the info, so bros am doing quite well. SA has done a lot for me and I have also done lot for SA. Like a guy said, someone had cumlade yet can't get a job, I know tens like dat. So don't ever think pple here that rant are frustrated we just say it as it is

Shine1177:


That is where your problem lies.

You don't know and you don't want to agree that you don't know.

femiaction reported himself at the DHA and the official told him what he wanted. He said he is just trying to fulfil all the conditions on his Work Permit. The official told his to go, that he does not have any business doing in their office since he has already gotten his Work Permit he should go and work or do whatever he wanted with it. I am a living witness.

You think everybody is cursed. No! I repeat it again. You sound PAINED! Face whatever brought you to SA and leave other Nigerians with their life. No body advised you not to travel to SA when you came, so you should not make yourself Solicitor-General of Department of Home Affairs.

E se sir.

staggerlee:


I find some untruths in yours story, first I find it hard to gulp that you pay rent of R2000 in todays SA, with electricty when electricity went up April 1st by 9.4%. U must be staying in a bush or one township like Kayaleisha. I have never doubted the fact that u can't get scholarships but how many do get? And also for what courses? Is it available to every foreigner in every field? You shout critical skills WP, have you joined ECSA, do u know the stress to get critical skills now compared to getting exceptional skills WP, 3 years ago. Look at the new immigration act of 2014, you can't work in ESKOM unless u have an I.D that is a PR holder. You can't be in any govt parastital with WP unless u are a consultant. You claim to have gotten NRF, how many do get it? Your case is an exception not the norm. U claim to earn 4.5 per month as a tutor, do u earn this amount in jan, feb, june, july, nov, dec? Don't come here and paint sa like its one heaven abeg.

ife01:
Let no one be discouraged.

If Nigeria hasn't been comfortable for you and you have a legitimate reason for going to SA... Why not?

If SA isn't going on well for you, why not also return home?

It's simply a matter of choice and what works for each person.

@shine1177 Do you attend the RCCG Chapel of Praise? I was there last Sunday as a newbie

staggerlee:


The condition for critical skills visa is to report to dha with you contract, even a lot of dha staff are not even aware of this condition and they ought to give u a letter to this effect. I know a guy that went to centurion the dha staff didn't know what to do until he wen to jozi before they did the right thing, mr SA ambassador am not mocking femi, I actually feel pain he hasn't got a job and I pray he does. You talk of those opportunities u have, u are an engineer, u are exempted from the harsh reality. What abt pple tgat study other courses like in arts, do they have the same opportunities

Shine1177:


I have always try to avoid you on this platform due to the way you go about your advise to in-coming Nigerians and if you check my profile, I hardly make comment here, I only come here to read comment and go. Femiaction is my neigbour and church member and he knows that all I have said on this forum is true. I live in Durban CBD (see the attached picture. I took that picture from my bedroom both day & night view of Durban Seaport). Sometimes last year when Wizkid and his friends came to Durban Seaport to celebrate that All-White birthday party on a Yatch, i told my friend that see what our celebrity are dying to flex, the same Yatch I can rent for R1000 - I mean it is at my backyard.

You make everything seem hard to get in South Africa. You know what I usually tell people like you anytime I meet such? I always say since you say South Africa is bad now, it is not as good as it was 5 or 10 years ago. i use to ask them "What good did they achieve those years they claim the country was good? Most of them wasted opportunities, now that those things are gone, they started complaining. For your information foreigners are making it big time in SA and foreigners will still continue to make it big time in many years to come in South Africa and foreigner will never stop to come into any country for that matter for life. Ilu to k'o waju s'eni kan, eyin lo ko s'omo e'lo mi (The drum that faces a man is also backing another man). It depend on the side of the coin you get. You sound PAINED. No be by year wey you don spend o, nah the grace of God wey we carry, the grace different as our face differs).

Femiaction got registered as ECSA member from Lagos, Nigeria and he was issued his 5-years Critical Skill Work Permit in Lagos. His wife is doing her PhD while he is doing his PG studies now. I remember you told him on this forum that it is not possible to use Work Permit to study in any SA university. I remember he replied you that it is God doing. We should learn not to be dogmatic. I came to South Africa with a 3-year Student Visa in March 2015, now I am a registered member of ECSA that is why I could submit my application for 5-years Critical Skill Work Permit towards obtaining my Permanent Residence Permit. I read you advising one guy like that not to think about it because it is not possible to change from Study Permit to Work Permit, I just look and pass, 'wetin concern me'. When the Permit land in my hand in a matter of weeks, I will buzz you brother. The new guy that I said just came from Nigeria in February 2016 to my department, I have been putting him through the processing to get his Work Permit also. He has done his MIE evaluation within 8 week, he should be submitting his application for ECSA evaluation next week when he collect his Tutorship salary. Dey dia dey form I know it all.

As much as some of your statement are valid about working in government parastastal, you should learn how to believe other Nigerians when they tell you their stories. Imagine how you think I live in KwaMashu. For your information, I meet a Nigerian in RCCG last month, this guy is a Master student like me and he drives two (2) cars. Another lecturer when he came some years ago as a student drove 3-cars as a studet, he is now a Professor in Mogosuthu University of Technology. You may say they are doing drugs. Nay so people wey no se front dey also talk. I asked that guy how come he has two cars as a student, he told me how easy it is to get a VW Golf for R35,000 and how he bought his Honda 2010 R45,000 from the the fund he got and junior lecturer slot that his Professor gave at UKZN Howard Campus. I that just came in last year can afford to buy a car of R50,000 as a student now by the Grace of God. Those who don't know anything will say I am doing drugs. Well if you decide to close your eye to the the good of the land, it will definitely pass you by. At least I have meet Samtol and femiaction who are Nairalander in Durban.

Mr. Nigeria, make you hurry go help Buhari fix Nigeria.

Abeg make dem no discourage you if you get good plan and Baba God for you. Just look dem and pass.

Shine1177:


It is not by course you study. God can make a way for any man. Their is this Sister in our church who shared her testimony. She is a school teacher, she has been in Southy for years and she has Permanent Resident Permit but due to work politics towards foreigners they stopped her salary in January and told her her job has ended except she bring South African ID unknown to them she applied a long time ago. She went to Home Affairs and it was discovered that her application was abandoned because of a single document she did not attached, she got the document and within few weeks her ID was release. She went back to work, presented her ID and those devils were put to shame. Her salary was paid even for those month she did not work because those people were only carrying out the instruction of the Principal not of that the government.

Since Femi has gone to Home Affairs office and the officials told him to go because they did not know how to do their job according to you. Is Femi to be blamed? If he got school admission with his work permit how is that a problem to any brother from Nigeria? I think every man should know their limit.

My point is that you should stop celebrating your Permanent Resident Permit but work hard towards getting your ID, these things are not difficult as you paint them. For your information, I will hold my PR before this year end despite the fact that I'm less than 2-years in SA. Your belief is not necessary.

Don't let anyone misunderstand me, what I am saying is that you still make it here. I have met people who have spent 6 year in SA and their life have no colour, they still beg for money. One told me in 2015 that I should not consider staying behind after my studies because their country is now bad. I replied him that this country, South Africa will favour me and work for me. It was not as if I don't have anything doing before I came, I was working in a University in Nigeria but I think and I know I will become a better man if I add value to myself by studying in SA. It has paid off to some extent. It can work for any man or woman also but make sure you come with enough money for your rent at least for a year.

If you call me Mr. SA ambassador what should we call you? Please we need you back home to help Buhari fix Nigeria. For your information every minute you spend in South Africa you are delaying the progress of our fatherland. Please take the next available flight. Safe journey. Bami ki Tinubu ati Buhari pe won ku ise ilu o, Oluwa a ma so agbara won dotun. O da bo.

oduzbaba89:
Good afternoon my fellow niralanders , I just got into mess over the issue of SA visa as I was in a mess . I met this agent who applied for SA visa for me in march 2016 as I was denied on forged documents on the letter that came with my passport, e said Lagos is bad that I need to re apply from abuja which e did visa denied again on the ground that documents can't be verified.

Am tired as I need to go SA for contingent reasons. Please when is the best to re apply to SA again or what is it I can do. I need candid advice. Thanks

staggerlee:


I laugh at your folly for you to think I am pained about the system. I have benefitted so much in the system. I have a very good job, my job takes me round the globe, same with my wife who even has a better job than I do. But I won't use my situation to categorise every other person. By the grace of God in a couple of weeks am bringing pple into SA from naija to come and train. Mechanical engineers (Nigerians) I think I sent femi the info, so bros am doing quite well. SA has done a lot for me and I have also done lot for SA. Like a guy said, someone had cumlade yet can't get a job, I know tens like dat. So don't ever think pple here that rant are frustrated we just say it as it is

Shine1177:


It is not in my character to insult people I don't know but I will take exception in your case and say YOU ARE FOOLISH. I MEAN YOU ARE FOOLISH to type the bolden. Oju orun to f'eye fo lai fa ra kan ra (The sky is wide enough for thousands of bird without hitting themselves). Why do you chose to be the devil's advocate? This thread is meant for people who wish to come to SA and people who wish to help them in their pursuit. You may get out of here and go created a thread where you can scare whoever wish to follow you away.

If Southy has really been a blessing to you as you claim, why don't you want it to be a blessing to another man. Not every man in South African are smiling like not every man in Nigeria is smiling. Leave every man to leave his life.

If I am not wrong you have passed this way before, I mean some months ago, you advised people to stop coming to SA. For what now? Why don't you take those guy you are bring for training to UniMaid (university of Maiduguri)? Abegi, leave matter for Mathias. If Femi has not gotten a job now, nay for your eye he go come share his breakthrough testimony when he finish his studies. Why will you mock your fellow human being.

justwise:


Bro there is no need for that lets argue politely.

justwise:
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In most cases they don't meet the requirements so you don't blame SA govt. That is the case everywhere not only in SA.

People leave Nigeria and other African countries because 'home' got little to offer them.

Do you see South Africans traveling out for greener pasture like other African countries do?
God bless you,so on point

SA is the youngest country in Africa but how come older brother Nigeria with enormous resource is in shamble?


You have money in Nigeria but you can't buy fuel, you can afford to pay for constant electricity but you can't have one.

You can afford to buy a car but roads are dead trap.

You can afford to go to any school but your chances of finishing that course is limited.

Tell me what is good about Nigeria right now.

femiaction:
You said I think I sent femi the info. I did not see any info. I need the info. Thanks

justwise:
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In most cases they don't meet the requirements so you don't blame SA govt. That is the case everywhere not only in SA.

People leave Nigeria and other African countries because 'home' got little to offer them.

Do you see South Africans traveling out for greener pasture like other African countries do?


SA is the youngest country in Africa but how come older brother Nigeria with enormous resource is in shamble?


You have money in Nigeria but you can't buy fuel, you can afford to pay for constant electricity but you can't have one.

You can afford to buy a car but roads are dead trap.

You can afford to go to any school but your chances of finishing that course is limited.

Tell me what is good about Nigeria right now.

lalabu:

God bless you,so on point,no any benefit we derive from our so call gaint of Africa country...its just full of shit

staggerlee:

I sent it via whatsapp, Job opportunities in Naija, I asked if u had anyone back home and u said no

staggerlee:


I find some untruths in yours story, first I find it hard to gulp that you pay rent of R2000 in todays SA, with electricty when electricity went up April 1st by 9.4%. U must be staying in a bush or one township like Kayaleisha. I have never doubted the fact that u can't get scholarships but how many do get? And also for what courses? Is it available to every foreigner in every field? You shout critical skills WP, have you joined ECSA, do u know the stress to get critical skills now compared to getting exceptional skills WP, 3 years ago. Look at the new immigration act of 2014, you can't work in ESKOM unless u have an I.D that is a PR holder. You can't be in any govt parastital with WP unless u are a consultant. You claim to have gotten NRF, how many do get it? Your case is an exception not the norm. U claim to earn 4.5 per month as a tutor, do u earn this amount in jan, feb, june, july, nov, dec? Don't come here and paint sa like its one heaven abeg.

staggerlee:


My brother it is better to be jobless in Nigeria than to be jobless in a foreign country like SA. Ofcos there are more jobless gradutes in Nigeria, no doubts, but a Nigerian being jobless in SA is like a death sentence, in naija u can go and sell gala u can't try that as a foreigner here. So no basis for comparism

femiaction:
Mr staggerlee please not everybody tells lies okay. What shine1177 said was truth.(As per his accommodation is staying in DURBAN CITY and not bush nor township as you said) This forum is for us to share our experiences not to discourage people. Sir there is no any stress to get critical work permit when you have all necessary document required for the permit and God's favour. Then less i forget you said you are doing your PhD in SA now, i believe you can still continue with your program in Nigerian now to join your friends and enjoying what they are enjoying at home. I know there is no job in SA not even in Nigeria and throughout the world. But you are not the position to discourage people because you are still in the same country that you are condemning. Please share your experience and your testimonies not to discourage people. As far as people are coming on academic ground please don't discourage them because you are a student there. Thanks.

staggerlee:


My job is tied to my PHD. I can not leave SA now. I am not making this personal, my point is don't stress ur self to come to SA. U can come and do masters or phd here and if u get favour its fine. Critical skills is much more difficult in comparism to exceptional skills. SA is not worth selling ur property to move to. Dony leave naija planing on u will get a scholarship

lalabu:

Leave anybody that wants to sell their grandpa property to go to SA its none of your business,stop discouraging people...You can as well leave your job ans phd in SA and come back home,afterl there are places you can do your PHD apart from SA.

staggerlee:


I do not condemn any city rather I promote my country. SA has tried for all of us and I will always be grateful.

You came here with critical skills as an engineer with mad experience, you couldn't get a job but you still couldn't get a job, now u have gone to study breaking immigration rules because u have not reported to DHA that you have got a job. Or don't you know that's a condition on ur critical skills? I am only been frank, I am not discouraging anybody. SA is beautiful but it has no greener grasses

lalabu:

You talk as if you have been leaving in SA forever,I perceive some untruth in your talk as well,although i dont know the guy you quoted but i know someone that got his critical skill permit of recent too,so dont talk as if you know it all in SA.. Different folks with his or her story..stop discouraging people from leaving nija to look for a better life anywhere they like, go home if you want to go they are not forcing you to stay in their country..i dont know what is good about our country,we dont benefit anything as a citizen.Do you think if we enjoy the luxury of light and some little little things some countries enjoy we will leave our country to go to another country to look for a better life?You are talking as if Nigeria is heaven on earth,forget that thing bros

lalabu:

See immigration lawyer...As if our country has greener grasses.Abeg shift and leave anybody that wants to leave the shores of Nigeria tk make it,its none of your business,am not related with all this people but i always come to this forum and i do see how you dicourage people of what they want to do to better their future,why will you be discouraging people not to go and study in SA when you are,

Shine1177:


It is not by course you study. God can make a way for any man. Their is this Sister in our church who shared her testimony. She is a school teacher, she has been in Southy for years and she has Permanent Resident Permit but due to work politics towards foreigners they stopped her salary in January and told her her job has ended except she bring South African ID unknown to them she applied a long time ago. She went to Home Affairs and it was discovered that her application was abandoned because of a single document she did not attached, she got the document and within few weeks her ID was release. She went back to work, presented her ID and those devils were put to shame. Her salary was paid even for those month she did not work because those people were only carrying out the instruction of the Principal not of that the government.

Since Femi has gone to Home Affairs office and the officials told him to go because they did not know how to do their job according to you. Is Femi to be blamed? If he got school admission with his work permit how is that a problem to any brother from Nigeria? I think every man should know their limit.

My point is that you should stop celebrating your Permanent Resident Permit but work hard towards getting your ID, these things are not difficult as you paint them. For your information, I will hold my PR before this year end despite the fact that I'm less than 2-years in SA. Your belief is not necessary.

Don't let anyone misunderstand me, what I am saying is that you still make it here. I have met people who have spent 6 year in SA and their life have no colour, they still beg for money. One told me in 2015 that I should not consider staying behind after my studies because their country is now bad. I replied him that this country, South Africa will favour me and work for me. It was not as if I don't have anything doing before I came, I was working in a University in Nigeria but I think and I know I will become a better man if I add value to myself by studying in SA. It has paid off to some extent. It can work for any man or woman also but make sure you come with enough money for your rent at least for a year.

If you call me Mr. SA ambassador what should we call you? Please we need you back home to help Buhari fix Nigeria. For your information every minute you spend in South Africa you are delaying the progress of our fatherland. Please take the next available flight. Safe journey. Bami ki Tinubu ati Buhari pe won ku ise ilu o, Oluwa a ma so agbara won dotun. O da bo.

staggerlee:


this guy take am personal o