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Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by urahara(m): 8:56pm On May 03, 2016
Image123:


A man has cancer and another stomach ache. They both end up in the hospital. Fair?

They both end up in the hospital to be tortured ba.

Your analogy is so not making sense
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by montezz(f): 8:58pm On May 03, 2016
Joagbaje:


But christ had amputees grow their limbs . And some ministers had such experience as gift . Like William Marion graham . Can such miracle of limbs growing be manipulated . Eye balls grow out of socket?
Did u see it happen? Was it recorded in a video clip or written? Why is not happening in Nigeria? Oh... Our men of God ain't as strong as the whites?
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by HardMirror(m): 8:58pm On May 03, 2016
Joagbaje:




We read in the bible about limbs growing out. I would really want to know by your theory that miracles are manipulation . Did Jesus manipulate limbs to grow ? Is it possible ?
Is the story true in the first place?
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by Joagbaje(m): 8:59pm On May 03, 2016
@ op . I await your response .
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by Blackfire(m): 9:00pm On May 03, 2016
analice107:

About an hour ago my dear. I can be whatever you want me to be. i didn't know you were there.
Did i mess as a mother?


well i like the way u tell the 'mother story' .. Well packaged with meaning.

I watched you in all your conversation with so many people.. Literally by your side.

I still need my jellof rice from u o.

I admire your versatility
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by montezz(f): 9:01pm On May 03, 2016
chubbyswit:
its not a threat but a fact.
Really? Have u been there? Can u prove its existence without quoting a Bible passage? Hell exists only in the human brain!
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by swaggzo(m): 9:02pm On May 03, 2016
Image123:


A man has cancer and another stomach ache. They both end up in the hospital. Fair?


DEEP DOWN, YOU KNOW YOU'RE FULL OF SHIIT AND THIS IS AN ENTIRELY FULISH QUESTION .
smiley

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Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by analice107: 9:02pm On May 03, 2016
swaggzo:





"CHRISTIANS AND DEATH ", A BETTER LOVE STORY THAN TWILIGHT! cheesy









AND THAT'S JUST THE PROBLEM. THEY FEAR DEATH AND WHATEVER HORROR AWAITS THEM ON THE AFTER LIFE. . THEY SERVE THEIR GOD BECAUSE OF THE THINGS THEY FEAR HE MIGHT DO TO THEM, AND THAT'S IT.



HERE ARE THEIR KEYWORDS : "HELL, DEATH, LAST DAY, JUDGEMENT, DEATH BED, FIRE, DIE, SATAN, SIN, BLA BLA BLA" undecided
these words hunt you right? i can understand.
For me, i dont fear death.
Palms 116:15 says, Precious in the sight of the Lord is the death of his saints.
1Thess 4 tells me that saints don't actually die, they simply sleep awaiting resurrection.

But you, you have to really be afraid of those words you lined up, because its not a prank, they will come for youuuuuuu.
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by HardMirror(m): 9:02pm On May 03, 2016
Alfamann:


Joe, I thought you quit nairaland when your scam was exposed last year?
I am sure he has countless experience of god failing. But let us not bring that ugly past to this thread. Let's hear what he has to say
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by Joagbaje(m): 9:03pm On May 03, 2016
HardMirror:

Is the story true in the first place?

Matthew 15:30-31
30 And great multitudes came unto him, having with them those that were lame, blind, dumb, [maimed, and many others, and cast them down at Jesus' feet; and he healed them:

31 Insomuch that the multitude wondered, when they saw the dumb to speak, the maimed to be whole, the lame to walk, and the blind to see: and they glorified the God of Israel.


Maim refers to amputee
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by HardMirror(m): 9:05pm On May 03, 2016
montezz:

Really? Have u been there? Can u provde its existence without quoting a Bible passage? Hell exists only in the human brain!
It's a fact! It's a Fact! They cry.
Remember, authority. That was how it was passed down to them. The brain washing dies hard only few have the mental strength to break it
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by chubbyswit(m): 9:05pm On May 03, 2016
montezz:

Really? Have u been there? Can u prove its existence without quoting a Bible passage? Hell exists only in the human brain!
k good for you but a word is enough for the wise
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by HardMirror(m): 9:07pm On May 03, 2016
Joagbaje:


Matthew 15:30-31
30 And great multitudes came unto him, having with them those that were lame, blind, dumb, [maimed, and many others, and cast them down at Jesus' feet; and he healed them:

31 Insomuch that the multitude wondered, when they saw the dumb to speak, the maimed to be whole, the lame to walk, and the blind to see: and they glorified the God of Israel.


Maim refers to amputee
Ooooohhhh gooooosh!
You are not a kid nau! Haba!

I don't believe the bible as an historical fact or the word of god so why are you quoting it to me as fact?

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Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by analice107: 9:09pm On May 03, 2016
SirWere:
Nairaland.

I can see it really affecting you, as you tend to be more vituperative nowadays.

Take a break from the religion section, relax and have some fun. Who knows, you might change sad
Thanks for your concern. How could i have missed you?
An atheist is telling a Christian to take a break from religion section. Maybe if you point out the vituperative comments i have made, i may just think seriously about taking a leave, while i leave you the atheists to crush the feeble Christians.
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by urahara(m): 9:09pm On May 03, 2016
Joagbaje:


Matthew 15:30-31
30 And great multitudes came unto him, having with them those that were lame, blind, dumb, [maimed, and many others, and cast them down at Jesus' feet; and he healed them:

31 Insomuch that the multitude wondered, when they saw the dumb to speak, the maimed to be whole, the lame to walk, and the blind to see: and they glorified the God of Israel.




Maim refers to amputee


U need a good dictionary.

Maimed means to be wounded ; to lose function of a limb or body part

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Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by Joagbaje(m): 9:13pm On May 03, 2016
HardMirror:

I am sure he has countless experience of god failing. But let us not bring that ugly past to this thread. Let's hear what he has to say

Oh sure if that's what you call it. Actually was waiting for you to talk about what made you lose faith . I felt you got disappointed about the blind man who God didn't heal . And if that's the case I've had such experience. Early 90s ,I went on eve gelid with a team of friends to a village in EDO state . We've been told to lay hands on the sick and I saw a man who couldn't get up. I felt it was opportunity to demonstrate Gods power . I laid hands on him and commanded him to rise . He tried but felt pain and he didn't get brother to try again. He said I should leave him to lie down. I left Angry at God why couldn't he honor his name . I got so angry and said I will never preach again. But latter I grew out of it.
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by wiegraf: 9:13pm On May 03, 2016
double post
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by wiegraf: 9:14pm On May 03, 2016
Joagbaje:


Ok thanks , when you're ready . We can discuss on another thread . And you will tell us who I led to death . Who I collected money from.etc . And when you fail to provide such proof Then we shall have something to laugh about .

Erm, you still don't get it, though I can sort of understand. I won't be laughing with you, ever. Well, not unless you're somehow redeemed. Now that would be a story.

Before you make said thread, think on this

https://www.nairaland.com/908631/church-tells-hiv-patients-stop

And perhaps these, among the many others

https://www.nairaland.com/1892195/truth-behind-christ-embassy-healing/3

https://www.nairaland.com/599451/pastor-chris-oyakhilome-dont-excuse/3

And pliss, are you now claiming you've never told sheeple to stop paying for medication as it could affect their faith? Whilst at the same time singing virtues about paying tithes in order to keep their faith strong?

Ok, I lied. Now you've got me laughing grin grin grin

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Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by Nobody: 9:16pm On May 03, 2016
analice107:

Thanks for your concern. How could i have missed you?
An atheist is telling a Christian to take a break from religion section. Maybe if you point out the vituperative comments i have made, i may just think seriously about taking a leave, while i leave you the atheists to crush the feeble Christians.

The main bulk of your post nowadays seems to center on you preaching impending doom and hell messages; which was not so before.

And I'm not TELLING you, I'm just giving an advice. Nairaland is NOT real life.

And yeah, I got the sacrcasm.

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Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by swaggzo(m): 9:17pm On May 03, 2016
analice107:

these words hunt you right? i can understand.
For me, i dont fear death.
Palms 116:15 says, Precious in the sight of the Lord is the death of his saints.
1Thess 4 tells me that saints don't actually die, they simply sleep awaiting resurrection.

But you, you have to really be afraid of those words you lined up, because its not a prank, they will come for youuuuuuu.


I'M NOT THE ONE YOU SHOULD BE QUOTING COMICAL WRITINGS TO, ITS NOT REALLY MY TYPE OF THING.
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by wirinet(m): 9:18pm On May 03, 2016
analice107:

Son, do you remember one time we travelled home to visit your grandma in the village and we had to use Kerosene lamp? You were so curious to know how the flame was glowing inside the globe, you wanted to hold it, i kept pulling you off, but you wont just stop going for it, suddenly your dad came back home and i needed to attend to him, you saw your chance and went for the lamp. The heat Chastised you. it stopped you from touching it by itself. Since you didn't believe me to know i cant keep what is good for you from you.
Son, When you were a toddler, i was always there, but if am there now that you are a man, then what kind of a mother am i? What have i succeeded in raising? an slowpoke? No dear, a time comes, and now its that time that i have to stand back and allow you be the man i raised you to be.
Son, the Lamp episode should teach you discipline. in life, there are actions that are detrimental to our wellbeing, and as a mother, i was never irresponsible as to indulge you to the extend that you wouldn't know these things. But you see Son, With all the love i have for you, if you decide to lock yourself up in a room and hang yourself on a Fan, what can i do? i will grieve for the rest of my life, but you took that decision. I made myself available for you to talk to. I always made you to understand, that no matter what happened, in will be, but you didn't consider how i will feel, you went on to commit suicide. In this circumstance, What can i do? its a choice you made.
No mother can throw her baby, especially her son into the fire. At least i cant.

This post of your only shows you are not fit to be a mother. You mean you left a toddler with a naked flame because you were distracted by the father? What if the flame cause permanent injury to the toddler or worse, killed the toddler? Won't you be held responsible ? Instead you callously blame the innocent toddler.

I am still in shock at what you wrote. Are you saying , that as a mother, you bare no responsibility whatsoever for the welbeing and safety of your children? Most mothers would put themselves in harms way to save their children. If your son locks himself in a room and kills himself, then you are a terrible mother. You did not care to find out why he is suicidal, it might probably due to your wickedness and lack of love.

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Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by Joagbaje(m): 9:20pm On May 03, 2016
urahara:

U need a good dictionary.

Response doesn't need to be harsh .

Maimed means to be wounded ; to lose function of a limb or body part

Check this out

Matthew 18:8
8 Wherefore if thy hand or thy foot offend thee, cut them off, and cast them from thee: it is better for thee to enter into life halt or maimed, rather than having two hands or two feet to be cast into everlasting fire.
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by Alfamann: 9:22pm On May 03, 2016
Joagbaje:


Oh sure if that's what you call it. Actually was waiting for you to talk about what made you lose faith . I felt you got disappointed about the blind man who God didn't heal . And if that's the case I've had such experience. Early went on eve gelid with a team of friends to a village in EDO state . We've been told to lay hands on the sick and I saw a man who couldn't get up. I felt it was opportunity to demonstrate Gods power . I laid hands on him and commanded him to rise . He tried but felt pain and he didn't get brother to try again. He said I should leave him to lie down. I left Angry at God why couldn't he honor his name . I got so angry and said I will never preach again. But latter I grew out of it.

Satan is Great. The seed is planted. Your time is coming.
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by Joagbaje(m): 9:24pm On May 03, 2016
wiegraf:


Erm, you still don't get it, though I can sort of understand. I won't be laughing with you, ever. Well, not unless you're somehow redeemed. Now that would be a story.

Before you make said thread, think on this

https://www.nairaland.com/908631/church-tells-hiv-patients-stop

And perhaps these, among the many others

https://www.nairaland.com/1892195/truth-behind-christ-embassy-healing/3

https://www.nairaland.com/599451/pastor-chris-oyakhilome-dont-excuse/3

And pliss, are you now claiming you've never told sheeple to stop paying for medication as it could affect their faith? Whilst at the same time singing virtues about paying tithes in order to keep their faith strong?

Ok, I lied. Now you've got me laughing grin grin grin

Laughing at your self I believe . It doesn't connect . Who did I kill ? Who did I collect money from?
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by Joagbaje(m): 9:29pm On May 03, 2016
Alfamann:


Satan is Great. The seed is planted. Your time is coming.

My experience was over twenty years ago. I only came out of it stronger . I have faith that HardMirror will come out of this stronger in God also. There's a call on his life .
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by urahara(m): 9:29pm On May 03, 2016
wirinet:


This post of your only shows you are not fit to be a mother. You mean you left a toddler with a nnaked flame because you were distracted by the father? What if the flame cause permanent injury to the toddler or worse, killed the toddler? Won't you be held responsible ? Instead you callously blame the indecent toddler.

I am still in shock at what you wrote. Are you saying , that as a mother, you bare no responsibility whatsoever for the welbeing and safety of your children? Most mothers would put themselves in harms way to save their children. If your son locks himself in a room and kills himself, then you are a terrible mother. You did not care nor care to find out why he is suicidal, it might probably due to your wickedness and lack of love.


Mother doesnt realise what shes saying is as stupid as saying that children who drink rat poison accidentally and die are to be blamed and not the parent for carelessly droping the poison at the reach of the child.

There is a reason for saying KEEP OUT OF REACH OF CHILDREN AND NOT CHILDREN STAY AWAY FROM THIS PRODUCT.

# WORST MOTHER IN THE HISTORY OF PARENTING

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Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by Image123(m): 9:29pm On May 03, 2016
montezz:

Try again...

Reality is not always about trying again.
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by Blackfire(m): 9:29pm On May 03, 2016
analice107:

Am very find my brother, how are you? Its been awhile. You have not been in Church (thread) for some time now. pls lets keep the fire burning.

And about this my son, what can i do? Its my responsibility to see him grow strong on a very firm foundation. You know how kids are, especially when they know mommy loves them. We'll get there. When he grows up very responsible now, his father will stand to take all the glory


*raise up my hand*.

Can i be his father?
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by Image123(m): 9:30pm On May 03, 2016
urahara:


They both end up in the hospital to be tortured ba.

Your analogy is so not making sense

They both end up in the hospital despite the varying and even contrasting degree of sickness, that is the analogy. Do you know what an analogy is?
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by chubbyswit(m): 9:32pm On May 03, 2016
HardMirror:

Healings can come miraculously thru several mean. You can use the name of anything. If today I claim that the water coming out from my tap is healing water and people believe in it. All I need is enough people to take the water and at the end call for testimonies. Be sure that you will hear lots of testimonies.
You just have to make your premise something people can believe in absolutely even if it is based a a big fat lie. It does not matter. Then have a wide spectrum of people put their faith in it.

If I have 1000 sick people. Have various degrees of infamity drink the fake healing water. I am sure we will get about the same number of testimonies as having 1000 people let pastor chris pray for them.

It still works for me.
I trick people close to me into getting healed. Could tell them to drink water and convince them it is no ordinary water. Or make vegetable concoction soup and claim it is medicinal and you see people getting back to their feet in no time. Depends on how convincing you are and how their body responds to the illness. It does not always work just the way prayer in jesus name does not always work. Success rate is about the same frequency.
rubbish from a confused human being
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by Image123(m): 9:32pm On May 03, 2016
swaggzo:



DEEP DOWN, YOU KNOW YOU'RE FULL OF SHIIT AND THIS IS AN ENTIRELY FULISH QUESTION .
smiley

You say this by faith or what? Common, use some logical thinking. Don't get all emotional on me.
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by nynbrada: 9:34pm On May 03, 2016
analice107:

Am very find my brother, how are you?


I'm doing good ooO. The Lord has been gracious to his servant.


Its been awhile. You have not been in Church (thread) for some time now. pls lets keep the fire burning.


My sister at times we just get busy with the other side of things{ministry n biz}, but whenever i'm less engaged be sure say i go show for church naw.



And about this my son, what can i do? Its my responsibility to see him grow strong on a very firm foundation. You know how kids are, especially when they know mommy loves them. We'll get there.

Gbaam! Your head dey there.



When he grows up very responsible now, his father will stand to take all the glory


Dat one too sure, our Baba no dey come last for dat one. May his name be blessed for ever more.

Nothing do you my sister, take good care and God bless.

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