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Re: PART 2: Pastor to Atheist: Why I will NEVER be a Christian again by femicyrus(m): 8:17pm On May 10, 2016
Atheist, how life without God? be sincere with yourself
Re: PART 2: Pastor to Atheist: Why I will NEVER be a Christian again by Nobody: 8:53pm On May 10, 2016
femicyrus:
Atheist, how life without God?
be sincere with yourself
How is the world with God?

Be sincere to yourself.

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Re: PART 2: Pastor to Atheist: Why I will NEVER be a Christian again by shurlar50(m): 8:56pm On May 10, 2016
Antiparticle:
I like your calm & measured comment.

But the scenario you painted isn't a "draw" though. What if Zeus is the correct god? What if it is Olórun or Amadiora? What if it is Thor?

***Point noted and understood***
Re: PART 2: Pastor to Atheist: Why I will NEVER be a Christian again by Vbook: 9:20pm On May 10, 2016
femicyrus:
Atheist, how life without God?
be sincere with yourself

Its actually great, to be honest....

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Re: PART 2: Pastor to Atheist: Why I will NEVER be a Christian again by CltrAltDelicious(m): 12:07am On May 11, 2016
urahara:



TESTIMONY TIME

Pastor hardmirror

Well i recently gave my life to lord gwa gwa and it has been awesome.

It also started 1day

I was driving on my okada. The okada fumbled and then i tumbled . i bled from my head . i became unconscious and then i felt my soul leave my body. And lo and behold


WHAT DID I SEE

It was lord gwa gwa . but i was shocked when i saw jesus and yahweh doing manicure and pedicure for lord gwa gwa .

Lord gwa gwa , then told me to go back to the world and preach to all men about him.

I woke up, i found myself in the hospital . i was totally fine .

And brethren i want to thank gwa gwa for helping me pass my exams , i know it wasnt because i read tirelessly for months , attended classes and took my studies seriously . NO WAY it was by lord gwa gwas epp.

GWA GWA


GWA GWA

GWA GWA

GWA GWA


I LOVE U DADDY...
Praise be to lord Gwa Gwa grin grin grin

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Re: PART 2: Pastor to Atheist: Why I will NEVER be a Christian again by CAPSLOCKED: 12:20am On May 11, 2016
CltrAltDelicious:

Praise be to lord Gwa Gwa grin grin grin



AND HIS ONLY BEGOTTEN SON, LORD TOMATO!
angry

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Re: PART 2: Pastor to Atheist: Why I will NEVER be a Christian again by CltrAltDelicious(m): 12:20am On May 11, 2016
joshysmartie:
To them atheists please clear me out...

Why do you have to display your ignorance in a public forum like dis *face Palm* Atheism has nothing to do with evolution angry

You need a biology text book

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Re: PART 2: Pastor to Atheist: Why I will NEVER be a Christian again by OgundeleT(m): 6:34am On May 11, 2016
femicyrus:


bros, I just lookup gwagwa on the Internet. i am surprised it did not exist!!!
except gwagwalada in abuja Nigeria.
you forsake God that created heaven and earth for gwagwalada based god. smh
it is only fake god you can see on internet, if you see your own god there then it is fake... gwagwa is real

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Re: PART 2: Pastor to Atheist: Why I will NEVER be a Christian again by Antiparticle(m): 6:54am On May 11, 2016
Astute response. I couldn't have written this as well as you just did.
cloudgoddess:

Simple. Human brains are prone to delusions and hallucinations. There has been much research done on this topic within the fields of Psychology and Neuroscience.

People can hallucinate without having consumed drugs; our senses can play tricks on us in both subtle and serious ways. And believing that something is real (especially when that "something" is supernatural with a lot of emotional connection associated with it) can "make" that thing feel and seem very real in our minds. Belief in itself is enough to alter people's perceptions -- the way we interpret our various experiences or hallucinations is molded by what we already think to be true.

Atheists don't think all theists are lying when they say they've seen spirits, satan, god, etc. We just know they're victims of the fallible and easily tricked human brain.

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Re: PART 2: Pastor to Atheist: Why I will NEVER be a Christian again by HardMirror(m): 7:34am On May 11, 2016
femicyrus:
Atheist, how life without God?
be sincere with yourself
Life has been better without God. Sooo good that christians that know me only use heaven and hell to try to scare me because they see I don't need God. The key is RESPONSIBILITY

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Re: PART 2: Pastor to Atheist: Why I will NEVER be a Christian again by urahara(m): 7:38am On May 11, 2016
cool cool

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Re: PART 2: Pastor to Atheist: Why I will NEVER be a Christian again by urahara(m): 7:39am On May 11, 2016
Praise be unto gwa gwa and his son


.......... Born of a virgin called




..................... Toyin tomato

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Re: PART 2: Pastor to Atheist: Why I will NEVER be a Christian again by Nobody: 7:45am On May 11, 2016
HardMirror:

Life has been better without God. Sooo good that christians that know me only use heaven and hell to try to scare me because they see I don't need God. The key is RESPONSIBILITY
Yea. Responsibility Is The Watch Word: How Will You Compare A Man That Pray For 12hours Non-stop To A Man That Work For 10hours A Day? - The Latter Will Be The Master Of The Former, Just As Lazarus Was A Slave To The Rich Man.
Re: PART 2: Pastor to Atheist: Why I will NEVER be a Christian again by HardMirror(m): 8:06am On May 11, 2016
BeastAmbition:
Yea. Responsibility Is The Watch Word: How Will You Compare A Man That Pray For 12hours Non-stop To A Man That Work For 10hours A Day? - The Latter Will Be The Master Of The Former, Just As Lazarus Was A Slave To The Rich Man.
Exactly
Re: PART 2: Pastor to Atheist: Why I will NEVER be a Christian again by HardMirror(m): 8:08am On May 11, 2016
urahara:
cool cool
Gwagwa be praised. He is the God of all religions. The God of all Gods and gods.

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Re: PART 2: Pastor to Atheist: Why I will NEVER be a Christian again by HardMirror(m): 8:10am On May 11, 2016
urahara:
Praise be unto gwa gwa and his son


.......... Born of a virgin called




..................... Toyin tomato

His son Tomato is angry with Nigeria at the moment, He has made himself scarce and expensive. sad

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Re: PART 2: Pastor to Atheist: Why I will NEVER be a Christian again by urahara(m): 8:42am On May 11, 2016
HardMirror:


His son Tomato is angry with Nigeria at the moment, He has made himself scarce and expensive. sad


Loooooolz grin

Oga hard mirror , has your problem with kanama papers finally been cleared

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Re: PART 2: Pastor to Atheist: Why I will NEVER be a Christian again by CAPSLOCKED: 8:46am On May 11, 2016
HardMirror:


His son Tomato is angry with Nigeria at the moment, He has made himself scarce and expensive. sad


SUCH AN IMPORTANT "COMMODITY" FOR THAT MATTER! cry
Re: PART 2: Pastor to Atheist: Why I will NEVER be a Christian again by HardMirror(m): 8:46am On May 11, 2016
urahara:



Loooooolz grin

Oga hard mirror , has your problem with kanama papers finally been cleared
I pay my tithe regularly, things must not be tight for me. I will get out of it and share my testimony after I pay enough to kill the publicity

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Re: PART 2: Pastor to Atheist: Why I will NEVER be a Christian again by urahara(m): 8:49am On May 11, 2016
HardMirror:

I pay my tithe regularly, things must not be tight for me. I will get out of it and share my testimony after I pay enough to kill the publicity



Daddy hard mirror ,


I was passing the market yesterday , and lo and behold, what did i see acrooss the sea side.


....... I saw some good for nothing some burry s. Worshipping the virgin toyin tomato . they were bowing down to her statue . daddy g. O what do u have 2 say about this

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Re: PART 2: Pastor to Atheist: Why I will NEVER be a Christian again by HardMirror(m): 9:39am On May 11, 2016
urahara:




Daddy hard mirror ,


I was passing the market yesterday , and lo and behold, what did i see acrooss the sea side.


....... I saw some good for nothing some burry s. Worshipping the virgin toyin tomato . they were bowing down to her statue . daddy g. O what do u have 2 say about this


Ahn ahn! You should know Gwagwa embraces all religions even if your god is Punna, Gwagwa is not like Jehovah, no jealousy in him, cos he knows all the Gods worship him, so no need for insecurity

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Re: PART 2: Pastor to Atheist: Why I will NEVER be a Christian again by HardMirror(m): 9:41am On May 11, 2016
CAPSLOCKED:

SUCH AN IMPORTANT "COMMODITY" FOR THAT MATTER! cry
It's gold now o

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Re: PART 2: Pastor to Atheist: Why I will NEVER be a Christian again by Nobody: 11:30am On May 11, 2016
Tosinex:
@hardmirror...... Well I just came across this thread of yours this evening and really it's so inspiring, i can tell from your write up that you've been a firebrand Christian and from the little I've read I was trying to get what actually brought you down on your knees and find fault with Christianity, you said everything about Christianity is true but the reason behind it is false, truly I was looking for what converted a dynamic man of God like you into an atheist, maybe I wanted to become an atheist like you that's if I found a good reason but I was disappointed when you said God is not caring and loving and burns people in hell even at the slightest sin.

You are a Man of God you should know better, or maybe you are not rooted in the word of God hence your new disposition and believe.

Well I want to bring to your notice to the fact that God gave man authority and power to dominate the earth even the first and foremost man Adam and his wife Eve, but man gave his authority and power to the devil.. And you know that the devil doesn't wish man well and that's the reason for the evil that prevails on earth.

Seeing that the whole of humanity is eternally lost and in great bondage of the arch enemy, God was aggrieved, and being a loving Father he decided to shed his blood which is the only way he can to save the little he can of humanity.

God just did what he could do, by shedding his blood for us so that at least a good remnants of us will remain to carry out his first order, Jesus said it "only few will be saved"

Apostle paul said "that I might not be a castaway even when I've preached to others". That's a Man that's has good knowledge of Christianity.

Well, will someone that has enjoyed the gift and power of the Spirit be redeemed back if they turn away from the faith? I guess you have the answer.

I am not holier than anyone in this room, i may even be the worst sinner among us here, but I have hope that if I do it right, I will live eternally. The man on the cross received that grace and it's open for everyone.

Go back to your faith if you can but if you have decided to remain where you are, allbeit good. Let everyman do according to he pleases.

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Re: PART 2: Pastor to Atheist: Why I will NEVER be a Christian again by kennycanny: 11:57am On May 11, 2016
urahara:




Daddy hard mirror ,


I was passing the market yesterday , and lo and behold, what did i see acrooss the sea side.


....... I saw some good for nothing some burry s. Worshipping the virgin toyin tomato . they were bowing down to her statue . daddy g. O what do u have 2 say about this



Pls , you and hardmirrow do not need to be childish about this whole thing.

whichever side you belong , you can still be mature about it.

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Re: PART 2: Pastor to Atheist: Why I will NEVER be a Christian again by Nobody: 6:55pm On May 11, 2016
CltrAltDelicious:


Why do you have to display your ignorance in a public forum like dis *face Palm* Atheism has nothing to do with evolution angry

You need a biology text book

Firstly thanks for pointing out my ignorance which was already stated at bolded "clear me out"

this are things that I thought stears folks into being atheist...
#myhonestopinion
.history- names recorded in the bilble are not found in history where are those families today..?
.creation- the only thing that enlightened or should I say confused people into being atheist is science ...
I mean u can't expect a sensible man to just believe things appeared and he was made of dust. So on an so fort..
But science made a litle sense with the evolution theory...
The thing is its their own opinion...

So... If you say @bolded then how the fvck do they they explain creation...
No offence just asking
..
Re: PART 2: Pastor to Atheist: Why I will NEVER be a Christian again by Antiparticle(m): 8:07pm On May 11, 2016
@cloudgoddess has done a wonderful job explaining evolution here:
https://www.nairaland.com/2914888/much-needed-explanation-evolution#42648099

@menesheh also gives a good layman's explanation here:
https://www.nairaland.com/2806737/simplified-layman-explanation-basic-ideas#41078678

FYI, evolution is biological fact. I used to be a creationist like you, but I started to question this position the day I went to a museum and saw on display the half-excavated skeleton of a human evolutionary ancestor. Seeing is believing, my friend. There is too much physical evidence (archaeological, genetic, geophysical, etc) that show that evolution is unambiguously factual.

joshysmartie:

Firstly thanks for pointing out my ignorance which was already stated at bolded "clear me out"

this are things that I thought stears folks into being atheist...
#myhonestopinion
.history- names recorded in the bilble are not found in history where are those families today..?
.creation- the only thing that enlightened or should I say confused people into being atheist is science ...
I mean u can't expect a sensible man to just believe things appeared and he was made of dust. So on an so fort..
But science made a litle sense with the evolution theory...
The thing is its their own opinion...

So... If you say @bolded then how the fvck do they they explain creation...
No offence just asking
..

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Re: PART 2: Pastor to Atheist: Why I will NEVER be a Christian again by urahara(m): 8:10pm On May 11, 2016
kennycanny:




Pls , you and hardmirrow do not need to be childish about this whole thing.

whichever side you belong , you can still be mature about it.

shocked shocked

Na where dis person come from .

Na who u be .


Where u come from. shocked shocked



Hold up. Hold up....... wink


Dont let me report u to my daddy lord gwa gwa and my mummy virgin tomato. sad angry


So in igbo

..... Sebapo

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Re: PART 2: Pastor to Atheist: Why I will NEVER be a Christian again by Nobody: 8:23pm On May 11, 2016
Antiparticle:
@cloudgoddess has done a wonderful job explaining evolution here:
https://www.nairaland.com/2914888/much-needed-explanation-evolution#42648099

@menesheh also gives a good layman's explanation here:
https://www.nairaland.com/2806737/simplified-layman-explanation-basic-ideas#41078678

FYI, evolution is biological fact. I used to be a creationist like you, but I started to question this position the day I went to a museum and saw on display the half-excavated skeleton of a human evolutionary ancestor. Seeing is believing, my friend. There is too much physical evidence (archaeological, genetic, geophysical, etc) that show that evolution is unambiguously factual.


So in essense I can get bones of millions of this in museum? Thats they extinct or what?

Re: PART 2: Pastor to Atheist: Why I will NEVER be a Christian again by Antiparticle(m): 8:31pm On May 11, 2016
I don't fully understand your question.
Fossils are excavated from archaeological digs. The fossils of evolutionary ancestors from older generations are usually found in deeper layers of rock. Using radiological dating, we are also able to estimate the age of fossils. Some of these fossils are in museums around the world, and many of them are in research labs (in universities), but most fossils are still buried underneath deep layers of rock. A lot of fossil sites are discovered accidentally.

Please read the links in my previous posts and then ask your question. I assume you are truly curious, this is why I hyperlinked those well-written posts about evolution by other Nairalanders.

If you however have already concluded that evolution is not factual, then I'm sorry there's nothing that I can tell you that will cause you to become open to evaluating the evidence.
joshysmartie:
So in essense I can get bones of millions of this in museum? Thats they extinct or what?

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Re: PART 2: Pastor to Atheist: Why I will NEVER be a Christian again by Nobody: 11:07pm On May 11, 2016
PLEASE sir, continue your story... @ HardMirror...

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Re: PART 2: Pastor to Atheist: Why I will NEVER be a Christian again by blessedvisky(m): 1:40am On May 12, 2016
Hardmirror, I read part 1 and part 2(didnt finish both but read enough) and the people and places you mentioned are real. Dr agunloye, futa, Pastor Sola Areogun, ọba ńlá etc. However I find it very very difficult to reconcile your stories with your comments and replies to believers who are engaging you in a war of words.
I can't believe you actually had those experiences ( Word of knowledge & discernment of spirits).

You seem to me like any other regular 'hatist' (different from atheist). The hatist (my own coinage) actively opposes anything that has to do with God, faith and religion. They go as far as bringing texts from the books of religions to attack the adherents of that religion. Some characteristics they all share is Anger, hate and an incredible ability to insult. You can go through your own comments and that of your new found friends to see for yourself.

An ATHEIST on the other hand doesn't believe in God, doesn't care about religion, doesn't even talk or think about it.

I was once threading the dark and lonely Road to atheism / hatism ( 2014, no thanks to NAIRALAND) however, what I came to realise was that Atheism has NO ANSWERS!!! It just resorts to science, logic, experiences, stories (either true or untrue) and 'contradictions' in various religious books. It always looks for and rests on something else. It can't stand alone.
Science on its own is neutral (both atheist and religious people can be successful scientists). Science can't make a right thinking believer become atheist or vice versa. I'm a science student so I know this well.

Well, I wish you well on your new path. I won't pray for your redemption or your destruction ( neither of them interest Me) .

However, let me show you a verse that helped me a lot

Jeremiah 10:23 O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it is not in man that walketh to direct his steps.
Call me anything you want to, I really don't care.
Good bye.

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Re: PART 2: Pastor to Atheist: Why I will NEVER be a Christian again by rawgame(m): 3:46am On May 12, 2016
HardMirror:

Don't you think it would be better to instead say that prayer for your dad? Won't it be good if he becomes an evangelist and start preaching against illicit sex and irresponsibility?
I think the society needs him more at least we won't have bastards everywhere.
Guy, you actually made this pejorative remark? You could have been more sensitive to the young man's plight. You must not exhibit emotional cruelty before you can be heard. Your derogatory attribute is why I didn't continue with the other conversation I had with you.

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