kolawaxxy:
All thanks to nairaland. I don't know what to believe anymore

skeendyke:


You atheists always judge the whole by observing a minute part. Your argument goes thus: If it is raining in Lagos, it must be raining all over Nigeria. Note, I have no comment for this kind of argument.

sonofthunder:

you still don't believe its fictional?

sonofthunder:
So then, we may no longer be children, tossed [like ships] to and fro between chance gusts of teaching and wavering with every changing wind of doctrine, [the prey of] the cunning and cleverness of [c]unscrupulous men, [gamblers engaged] in every shifting form of trickery in inventing errors to mislead.

15Rather, let our lives lovingly [d]express truth [in all things, speaking truly, dealing truly, living truly]. Enfolded in love, let us grow up in every way and in all things into Him Who is the Head, [even] Christ (the Messiah, the Anointed One).

16For because of Him the whole body (the church, in all its various parts), closely joined and firmly knit together by the joints and ligaments with which it is supplied, when each part [with power adapted to its need] is working properly [in all its functions], grows to full maturity, building itself up in love.

17So this I say and solemnly testify in [the name of] the Lord [as in His presence], that you must no longer live as the heathen (the Gentiles) do in their perverseness [in the folly, vanity, and emptiness of their souls and the futility] of their minds.

18Their [e]moral understanding is darkened and their reasoning is beclouded. [They are] alienated (estranged, self-banished) from the life of God [with no share in it; this is] because of the ignorance (the want of knowledge and perception, the willful blindness) that is [f]deep-seated in them, due to their hardness of heart [to the insensitiveness of their moral nature].

19In their spiritual apathy they have become callous and past feeling and reckless and have abandoned themselves [a prey] to unbridled sensuality, eager and greedy to indulge in every form of impurity [that their depraved desires may suggest and demand].

20But you did not so learn Christ!

simplex2:
If you read the thread a nairalander did on his experience at PST Chris healing school, you won't be surprised at the drama called miracle.

**here's the thread**



https://www.nairaland.com/193649/truth-christ-embassy-healing-school

HardMirror:

Lol
You guys just keep amusing me.
This story is 100% true. Azo I mentioned in part one surprisingly showed up later in the thread we exchanged mails and he gave me his current phone number and we spoke. We would be meeting at ikeja soon.
The brother dan I mention now is a missionary in india. He is a son to Rev ogundare and he studied electrical electronics. Rev ogundare is based in akure and has his house at Futa south gate and he is very popular. Many futarians have sent me PMs and we have spoken. All this happened between 2007 and 2012. 100% verifiable.

johnydon22:


You owe nobody any explanation, simply ignore such side irrelevant talks and continue your story

johnydon22:


You owe nobody any explanation, simply ignore such side irrelevant talks and continue your story

skeendyke:
Note, I have no comment for this kind of argument.

BROS WERE YOU SLEEPING WHEN YOU TYPED THIS?
HOW CAN YOU SAY YOU HAVE NO COMMENT, WHAT DO WE CALL THIS. ... METCOMM?

skeendyke:


By chosen, do you mean determined by God randomly among a population so that no matter what the chosen do they are bound for heaven?

If that is what you mean then why did Apostle Paul say that he had to discipline his body and force it to obey him so that he wouldn't end up in hell after having preached to many people? Why did the Apostle Peter say that we should make our calling and election sure?

God has given you everything you need to overcome the devil and live a righteous life on earth that will grant you access to His eternal kingdom when you leave earth. It is up to you to make use of what He has made available or whine about the life He gave you. Your choice.

Alfamann:


Praise be to Satan.

HardMirror:
Continuation...
To be honest, my strength in the Lord started waxing cold. Something was seriously wrong, I began to wonder, "what has god really done for me?"
Early in the morning, I would take strolls from oba kekere to Oba nla usually from AM or stroll from Apatapiti to futa Junction and back to Futa south gate, praying in spirit, searching my soul for answers.
I was deeply troubled. My mind was fighting all the indoctrinations I had from childhood.

My parents were never christians and did not go to church when I was young.

I recall around 1995 when I watched a movie about Jesus christ (I don't know the title) and how much he suffered and eventually died for our sins. It was on an easter day.
I remember how me my sister and brother all ended up crying, seriously crying and asking God to forgive us our sins. That was the day I got born again. It was a deeply emotional day. I remember that our parent were not at home.
We cried and cried all lying on the floor.

The movie was a touching one, seeing a man suffer so much and at the end of the movie there was a little sermon. Even though I was young, I understood the movie.

I could not just abandon the faith, I had to fight to keep it alive. So from being a leader in my fellowship, I humbled myself and left the fellowship to join the Life Oasis Church (Dream Center) in Akure. The year was 2011.
Then Pastor Charlse was the man Pastor Olusola areogun sent to establish the church in Akure.

I believed I needed to retrace my step and be a student of the bible to regain my conviction of faith.

I became a student and disciple under Pastor charlse. The church was behind Chicken republic Futa Junction.

I remember being taught fundamental things as if I was never a giant in the works of the spirit, but all that did not matter to me. All I wanted was to fall in love with christ all over again. I wanted to be taught like a child again.

I must confess pastor charlse was a great teacher. I remember how he opened his home to us and how much time he spent with us sharing the word of God with us. Nuturing us. This was despite him being a medical doctor and barely having enough time for himself and family, yet he gave it all for us.

Despite all this, here I am, a none believer. And a proud one.

This was the last effort I made to save my faith, but once you know the truth, telling lies to yourself becomes ridiculously hard. It was not working. The god of the bible remained as fake as fake could be.

johnydon22:


The longer i remain atheistic the more amazed i am at myself that i once really believed all that myths, fables and superstitions

JustStardust:


Same here. Sometimes i do facepalm for myself HOW COULD I?

johnydon22:


Hahahahaha more reasons why we should not use condescending attitudes or insulting words when dealing such people cus at some point in our lives we were like that if not more

urahara:



COMING SOON. ................


FREED FROM THE SHACKLES OF RELIGION.. BY JOHNNY DON 22



...... HOW I MET MY FREECOCOA. .... BY JOHNNY DON 22



A MUST READ FOR ALL NAIRALANDERS

johnydon22:


Hahahahaha mumu. . . i wo ;n't any such stories though, this belongs to you lot who can put up with that

wirinet:


The bolded statement to me is the greatest miracle of Christianity, able to make people feel a deep sense of guilt for something you have no idea of, by people you do not know and living in an era you don't know. How the quilt for the crucifixion of a Jewish man in Palestine some 2000 years ago is put on black Africans living deep in the jungle of Africa in the 20th century is the greatest miracle of time.

wirinet:


The bolded statement to me is the greatest miracle of Christianity, able to make people feel a deep sense of guilt for something you have no idea of, by people you do not know and living in an era you don't know. How the guilt for the crucifixion of a Jewish man in Palestine some 2000 years ago is put on black Africans living deep in the jungle of Africa in the 20th century is the greatest miracle of time.

HardMirror:

Lol
You guys just keep amusing me.
This story is 100% true. Azo I mentioned in part one surprisingly showed up later in the thread we exchanged mails and he gave me his current phone number and we spoke. We would be meeting at ikeja soon.
The brother dan I mention now is a missionary in india. He is a son to Rev ogundare and he studied electrical electronics. Rev ogundare is based in akure and has his house at Futa south gate and he is very popular. Many futarians have sent me PMs and we have spoken. All this happened between 2007 and 2012. 100% verifiable.

HardMirror:

So the Holy Spirit could not tell you I have been speaking the truth all along so why should I take you serious? You must be dull in the spirit or you don't even have the holy spirit at all. So much for being a christian. You are still operating on human wisdom and guessing your way thru life.

urahara:


wwll if u dont want to write the story. I ll write it myself.

Sneak peek......


HOW I MET MY FREECOCOA



A long time ago, there lived a young man called john chukwuemeka who hailed from enugu , he lived in a far far away distant land now called enugu. He was a humble man, . one day , he was sleeping , and and in his dream all of a sudden an angel commanded him to go to the land which is now know as bornu state. He was ordered to go there , for that was where he would find his love , his boo boo. A woman named free cocoa who was a virgin born of a virgin. He was told he would face so many obstacles in finding this woman of his dreams.


.......... 2 be continued. .........

johnydon22:


Chai Ayaff died sef you have finished me..

Bornu

sonofthunder:

egbon! where did I mention the Holy Spirit.?
you sit behind a screen guessing about how I make decisions? so being an atheist/reprobate has evolved you to all knowing?
is it small bible verses that has had you firing insults at me?
at least, that would mean you still have a conscience... just don't wanna use it yet.

HardMirror:
Continuation...

The Moment of truth!

We were really excited.
It got to their turn and the man of God laid hads on them prayed for them and they left the line to return to their sit. Excitedly I and Bro. Daniel (not real name) quickly drew them aside. Took them to a corner were no one would hear what we were discussing.

The boy was very excited to see us as he made attempts to make works like a baby still learning to speak. We also responded to his excitement smiling and emotional. "Oh what a wonderful God!" "Thank you Jesus for bringing us down here and changing this boys life!"
I could almost cry at that moment.

Then my attention shifted to the parent. The dad really had a confused look on his face, the mum was smiling and excited, she could see that her boy had made new friends. University guys that are men of God are her little boy's friend. She was excited and eager to hear what we had to say.
We greeted them and the replied warmly. Now straight to business.

"Was your boy dumb?" I asked
The dad's countenance dropped and he replied, "yes, he is dumb. That was how he was born."

Oh so indeed he was dumb. Hmmmm... So this miracle is real.

"So have you noticed any change in him today?"

The man looked at his boy, looked at his wife then looked at me. Then looked back at his wife as if searching for a clue for the right answer.

"We prayed for him and he can speak now" my partner bro. Dan said.

"Ehen?... Oya Bayo soro." The dad squirted so he could be at the same level with his boy.
We all joined him to encourage the boy to speak so his parents could hear.

He started speaking, "beh, beh beh, boo boo, beh beh."

I looked at the dad. The dad responded that that was all the boy could say since he was a baby and now he is about 12 years old and has not said any new word.

But this were the exact words this boy was saying to us and we assumed God had loosened his tongue and the only problem was since he had never spoken before, he was trying to learn how to repeat the words "baba" which we asked him to repeat after us.

This boy was as dumb as dumbo. We concluded and still insisted that God had healed him and they should just keep repeating words to him and he would eventually catch up.

For 5 days we spent in that village, the boy never spoke a new word. Even babies don't take that long to learn new words once they gain control of their tongues.

We left the village with our stupidity still praising God for that sham miracle.

It's now that I can be honest with myself and confess that God did nothing for that boy. We were so delusional that we kept giving excuses in God's advantage at every turn.

Remember samson Ayorinde's crusade? I flash back and I recall that all his miracles were also shams. Those dumb people were all dumb and remain dumb.

If you stay in osogbo around Capital area, you will know a man called Odi (word for deaf in yoruba).
The guy was at that sham crusade, till date the guy is still dumb and deaf!

Osogbo is not that big. If 50 people got back their eye sites and got back their ability to speak, we would all know.

Can anybody name anyone that genuinely got healed at that crusade or Rev. Reinhard Bonkke's crusade? There is NONE. So where are all the people they claimed they healed?

klarrychenko94:
I know that Odi guy around capital hotel. He had a PS2 game house in the shopping complex there. I used to play games in his shop when i was still in secondary school. Guy is still deaf and dumb. Pity.

frank317:


Insult ke? What insult did he fire at you. Pls quote cos I seem not to be reading right.

HardMirror:

Exactly! You know him. He is a bit bald. Very popular there and respected cos of his independence.
Problem is humans are generally weak and we all want to believe there is an Almighty God watching out for us. But if we really check, we would see that we are the ones always struggling to solve our own problems while giving glory to an imaginary god. As small as osogbo is owver the past 15 years there has been LOTS of crusades with thousands of healings, where are all the so called healed blind men living? Where are all the dumb people speaking? Where are all the lame walking? Where are they living that we don't know them or hear of them after the crusades.

Do you know what it means to be blind and everybody on your street knows you are blind for years and all of a sudden you start seeing for real. Do you think a single muslim will remain on such a street after witnessing God first hand?
Why do you think people are going from church to church looking for answer?
People are looking for answers and they seem to never find it, tho they keep lying to themselves that they have found it.