Chazzyboy:
I don't need to question the existence of God I have seen his wonders the sun the moon the stars the air we breath God is behind all this not man nor science

Pyrrho:
There is right and wrong, independent of God.

There is such a thing as duty, responsibility, morality all the these things are ideas, inbedded in cultures, and religion that are worthy of emulation. I'm not a blind follower of any ideology.

If any man chooses not to deceive himself in this part of the world you will be accused of copying the West. It is unavoidable.

What has Africa acheived with God?

You can see what the West has accomplished with science.

Let us be blunt. There are religious Westerners too. I chose not to follow them. There are illiterate Westerners...

Choose what you want to believe, but don't deceive yourself. Don't allow your immediate social disposition determine the limits of your knowledge.

gatiano:
Imagine....

A certain Man and/or Woman many eons ago created all that you now enjoy, the universe, suns/stars, planets and their moons, made animals, plants, foods, rivers, lake, springs, oceans etc. Then God made man.
God made all these magnificent things and He in all His/Her powers decided not to partake in its activities. What kind of an entity would do that? That is against nature.

When a man builds a house, he would stay or live in it till he passes it to another generation, when a bird nit its nest, it is for the bird to stay in, when a crocodile digs a hole, it is to keep its egg save and warm. Why then do people think God created heaven and earth, and He won't exercise His/Her right in it? Thus we attribute "Spirit" to His/Her person. Anybody that does this kind of thinking is a thief, a liar and a naturally wicked somebody.

Spirit in scientific word means Mind. Mind or Spirit can never (let me repeat it, can never) exist without a physical body. Thus God is a Man and Woman and they walk amongst physically alive everyday.

Chazzyboy:
who made the things u mentioned man or God?

gatiano:
God in a Physical form. YOU! The Mind that you walk with is very OLD, It is ancient. The Body that carried that Mind ascended, it died literally, It Produces A new body through A union of a Man and a Woman; Then A new born baby with that same ancient Mind. Our Minds are divided into two compartments
1) The conscious mind, this is the part of the mind you use now, personally. You use less than 1% of it.

2)The Unconscious mind, This is the mind of God and all of those who have replaced Him since the beginning. It is now your turn, You are the physical eye and body for all of Those Ancestors and God on this planet and solar system as a whole.

Your purpose is to make that you little 1% mind to become ONE with the Mind of God in you. Jesus became one with God. It is not a magic and miracle, It is pure mathematics. Once you are now one with God, then all doors of all the worlds begin to open to you one by one while you still physically live.

Who are you then?

Chazzyboy:
Bro I'm a child of God just like everything God made I can't be God nah don't confuse me sir

gatiano:
We are not yet, We would be which is Our purpose as Black people. It is to become or die a second and final death. You would learn everything that there is to learn, lving or dead.

Every Black person with His or Her God mind. So their are billion of ways to reach God depending on the number of Black people. The question of one person is an atheist or a christian or muslim or hindu is just fashion talk. They are however ways to reach God.

Chazzyboy:
I know anyone can reach despite our ignorance but don't u think there is a punishment for an atheist

gatiano:
Who will punish them, who will punish a Blackman or Blackwoman? Nobody can! Infact, Nobody punishes anybody. Our nature or character will simply drive us to what or where our nature love.
If a person is wicked, His/Her Soul will never want to go to heaven even when heaven is opened. A wicked place will simply just attract them. A good place would attract a good person likewise.

There are no Black atheists or christians, We are just passing through different phases. At the end of the universe when all Minds align as one, I will share your experience and every person's experiences who ever lived, You will do same, all of Black people. This is called Divine Unity. Then the universe will end, and another bigger one several times bigger would begin.

Chazzyboy:
ur response is intelligent where do u belong because everyone must hang unto God to be good

Chazzyboy:
ur response is intelligent where do u belong because everyone must hang unto God to be good

gatiano:
God is good and righteousness. Everybody must hang on to That God voice in them to be good. What you said is the truth.

Chazzyboy:
thank u Bro

sweetcocoa:
If only people will start asking themselves these questions and answer truthfully.

HardMirror:

My dear that's the root problem.
Most of us became freethinkers from being sincere with ourselves. Not rocket science

HardMirror:
I will keep this simple.

Many believe in God and Vodoo (black magic, charms, spiritualism), but as the popular saying goes, "Action speaks louder than Voice"

I see no reason why we should put so much effort in talking about God when demonstration of God is all we need.

Here are some cases to consider.

1. Where do you rush accident victims? Church or Hospital?
Even pastors would say it is foolish to take accident victims to church instead of hospital. Why? Are they indirectly saying it is foolish to trust God?

2. Where is God in times of epidemics/pandemics?
Has God ever stopped any disease outbreak?
Polio has been eradicated from any countries through vaccines and research. How many diseases has God ended?
Within the last 15 years we have suffered, SARS, BIRD FLU, SWINE FLU, EBOLA, LASSA FEVER, ZIKA outbreaks. While science was giving tangible proven solutions, what was God doing?

3. Who are the richest people in the world, are they those who did Blood money? Are they those who worship God? Even if you say some of them believe in God, what about Millions who go to Shiloh and Holy Ghost Congress every year and shout amen to Mighty prayers of great wealth? How rich are they today?

4. Where was our Juju when the whites were colonizing us? Where was God?

5. If something works, would there be need to get something else?
If Juju and God works, why do we keep improving on Technology and Science why not Improve on Juju and Faith in God?
Does it make sense to spend Billions of dollars on Milatary research when Juju is ridiculously cheap?
Why build space crafts when Witchcraft can take you to space within seconds?


6. Why conduct experiments to solve medical and life problems when all we have to do is just go on our Knees and ask God? Or Ask Ifa?
While developed countries are "wasting" Billions on research, why are we not simply asking our oracles for direct answer? Or asking God. Don't you thing we would have made Trillions of dollars from secrets Ifa or God reveals to us?



You can preach God all you want, you can praise Juju all you want. What I know is they don't matter where it matters.

Thank you

I am Hard Mirror, Look into the mirror, what you see is the truth, can't break me because you don't like what you see.

Chazzyboy:
u should be producing ur sun by now since u know the particles maybe u are over educated I have an assignment for u gather ur kids and tell them there is no God let me see if u won't regret for the rest of ur life

Brigance:


Does this hold sway for "mechanic tries, but God repairs"?

neocortex:


Some people once said that about birds, now we have airplanes,
some pointed to fish, now we have ships.

Making "sun" is not a new concept, just google nuclear fusion and update
yourself.

As to telling kids about god, one would have expected Nigeria to be an eldorado
since all parents tell their children about god, now we know better with the
happenings around us which has shown that god has no positive effect in peoples life
and behaviours.

charix:
Revealing the foolishness of believers one sentence at a time. Good writeup but I know soon the 'faithful' would come writing their usual 'God works in mysterious ways' slogan.

Chazzyboy:
u know the truth Bro [b]GOD exis[/b]t

neocortex:

Because you say so ?

Chazzyboy:
look around u the nature who made them science or God the air u breath what about the ocean

neocortex:


Some people once said that about birds, now we have airplanes,
some pointed to fish, now we have ships.

Making "sun" is not a new concept, just google nuclear fusion and update
yourself.

As to telling kids about god, one would have expected Nigeria to be an eldorado
since all parents tell their children about god, now we know better with the
happenings around us which has shown that god has no positive effect in peoples life
and behaviours.

neocortex:

Now I see, you look at nature and because you don't know how it
came about you then conclude it must be an imaginary god that made it.

So anything you don't understand must be god ?

ValentineMary:
It is a mockery to the human intellect to believe in voodoo. I grew up where everyone around me believed these things and when I told them juju was rubbish they called me ignorant.Even my science teacher believed it, she even said evolution was rubbish and why have we not seen humans evolve I mean for a science teacher, such ignorance is unacceptable.

All those who said juju is real have never seen or experienced one unfortunately they only hear. And they believe blindly on only what they hear. Yet I am ment to be the ignorant one. When people say God is d basis for morality and success, I tell them to compare Switzerland and Afghanistan. Anything without proof is not worth believing. I just can't believe in God simply because some jews wrote it on a paper. The world needs empirical evidence and until he provides one, he is just an imaginary construct.

gatiano:
Yes, they are ignorant, you are only more ignorant far more than they are.

ValentineMary:

Okay wise one prove that God and voodoo works.