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Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by Nobody: 10:28pm On May 24, 2016
Ishilove:

My dear, I didn't believe until it happened to me. There are several agents of darkness on the internet.

The thing is knowledge is power, so when you share the kind of knowledge and establish connections that can free people from bondage, they come after you.


Ishilove you are correct!

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Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by Kenneth4u205(m): 10:56pm On May 24, 2016
Peritus:

You started as if you want to encourage the practice of law, albeit saying that it saves not. If it's not sin to practice the old law, then tell me whether it is right to do so. If it's not right, then it's wrong.

You know that Christ himself is the fulfilment of the law. He consummated and satisfied all requirements of the law. He came to ensure that all things must be fulfilled, which were written in the law of Moses, and in the prophets, and in the psalms. Luke 24:44.
Christ has set us FREE from the law. Gal 5:1, From 8:2.
Jeremiah 31:31 prophesied of a new covenant NOT based on the previous covenant that God had with their forefathers. John 4:23 in fulfilment of this prophecy established the NEW form of worship not according to the law.
If the first covenant had been faultless, there would have been no need for a second covenant to replace it. Hebr 8:7.

Is it right to go back to where you were set free from? What does one make of Christ who brought us salvation and grace to save us from the demands of law and it's practices if he goes back to the ministration of death.

Those who depend on law to make them right are under curse Gal 3:10.
The law has fully completed its mission. It has been fulfilled, finalised and consummated, no other fulfilment is required.
we are both saying the same thing brother.the law can not redeem mankind. but that does not make the law a sin (romans 7:7)
Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by Kenneth4u205(m): 11:03pm On May 24, 2016
Peritus:

You started as if you want to encourage the practice of law, albeit saying that it saves not. If it's not sin to practice the old law, then tell me whether it is right to do so. If it's not right, then it's wrong.

Romans 7:7
7 What, then, are we to say? Is the Law sin? Certainly not! Really, I would not have come to know sin had it not been for the Law. For example, I would not have known covetousness if the Law had not said: “You must not covet.”
Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by Kenneth4u205(m): 11:17pm On May 24, 2016
kallmemrB:
thank you so much for that wonderful insight,you are actuslly the first christain have seen on this thread.. i can proudly say that most of the people on this thread act like anti-christ...they only believe there way is the right way... have used alot of bible passages to explain to them but they believe that their way is only the right way....


my question to all this oversabis like anas09,superior1,oyeludef is
Bible only mentioned Angel Micheal and Gabriel by name ,if you so much believe other doctrines are lie.why do you believe their are 7 archangels? why do you believe theres angel rapheal and Uriel? where did those names come from?

remember those names where never mentioned in the bible...honest answer pls no insult

remember 1st Cor 13 speaks solely on Love so i love u all
1 Corinthians 9:20-33


20 To the Jews I became as a Jew in order to gain Jews; to those under law I became as under law, though I myself am not under law, in order to gain those under law. 21 To those without law I became as without law, although I am not without law toward God but under law toward Christ, in order to gain those without law. 22 To the weak I became weak, in order to gain the weak. I have become all things to people of all sorts, so that I might by all possible means save some. 23 But I do all things for the sake of the good news, in order to share it with others.
Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by Anas09: 11:50pm On May 24, 2016
kallmemrB:
thank you so much for that wonderful insight,you are actuslly the first christain have seen on this thread.. i can proudly say that most of the people on this thread act like anti-christ...they only believe there way is the right way... have used alot of bible passages to explain to them but they believe that their way is only the right way....


my question to all this oversabis like anas09,superior1,oyeludef is
Bible only mentioned Angel Micheal and Gabriel by name ,if you so much believe other doctrines are lie.why do you believe their are 7 archangels? why do you believe theres angel rapheal and Uriel? where did those names come from?

remember those names where never mentioned in the bible...honest answer pls no insult

remember 1st Cor 13 speaks solely on Love so i love u all
Am suppose to respond to this right? What have I said to suggest I know anything? I have actually not said anything since you started here. For whatever reason, am restrained from answering you.
Anyways, Whatever makes you sleep well. Am good.
Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by oyeludef(m): 6:48am On May 25, 2016
kallmemrB:
thank you so much for that wonderful insight,you are actuslly the first christain have seen on this thread.. i can proudly say that most of the people on this thread act like anti-christ...they only believe there way is the right way... have used alot of bible passages to explain to them but they believe that their way is only the right way....


my question to all this oversabis like anas09,superior1,oyeludef is
Bible only mentioned Angel Micheal and Gabriel by name ,if you so much believe other doctrines are lie.why do you believe their are 7 archangels? why do you believe theres angel rapheal and Uriel? where did those names come from?

remember those names where never mentioned in the bible...honest answer pls no insult

remember 1st Cor 13 speaks solely on Love so i love u all
i will answer your questions just because d Bible commands me to Ernestly contend for the faith dat was delivered to the saints.
who says we believe in angel raphael or uriel? Is there anything of such in d Bible? Speak for ursef, i don't believe in dem. D Bible only talk about three arch angels ie Michael, Gabriel nd lucifer.
Jesus Christ is the perfect sacrifice and atonement for sin, anything u add as to his finished work is erresy. Now we don't worship God with objects or places but with our Spirit and in truth(john4:23). Our praise and thanksgiving is our sacrifice(heb13:15), our prayers is our incense (rev5:8 ). The only encounter we have with water is in Baptism into Christ and it happens once. Please go and study about the ministry of Christ and d apostles and you will see there is a world of difference between those practices u pointed out and d practice of Christianity. Study to show ursef approved unto God.
There is no place in the Bible where Christ or any apostle prayed to an angel. There are 9 gifts of the Holy Spirit in d Bible, where did you find d gift of mind reading? True spiritual experiences, starts from d Bible and den manifest physically. God nd read ur bible sir

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Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by Nobody: 7:39am On May 25, 2016
oyeludef:
i will answer your questions just because d Bible commands me to Ernestly contend for the faith dat was delivered to the saints.
who says we believe in angel raphael or uriel? Is there anything of such in d Bible? Speak for ursef, i don't believe in dem. D Bible only talk about three arch angels ie Michael, Gabriel nd lucifer.
Jesus Christ is the perfect sacrifice and atonement for sin, anything u add as to his finished work is erresy. Now we don't worship God with objects or places but with our Spirit and in truth(john4:23). Our praise and thanksgiving is our sacrifice(heb13:15), our prayers is our incense (rev5:8 ). The only encounter we have with water is in Baptism into Christ and it happens once. Please go and study about the ministry of Christ and d apostles and you will see there is a world of difference between those practices u pointed out and d practice of Christianity. Study to show ursef approved unto God.
There is no place in the Bible where Christ or any apostle prayed to an angel. There are 9 gifts of the Holy Spirit in d Bible, where did you find d gift of mind reading? True spiritual experiences, starts from d Bible and den manifest physically. God nd read ur bible sir
firstly who prays to angels? Secondly you not believing their are other angels is enuf for me to shut up ....am sure All u so called oversabis won't accept that also right....read 1 Cor 12 the likes of knowledge and discernment of spirit had to do with the mind...it's a communication instrument with the Holy Spirit...

Due to ur stubbornness and ego to be always right you all miss interpreted what Mr 2Kay wrote just to make sure he's put in the wrong ....what the innocent guy meant was a communication within him...sometimes he communicate with the Holy Spirit and they reveal the intention of others or what he needs to do to him...it's not until u sleep and dream that u see vision it goes beyond that ...before u start arguing blindly try to understand this gift and learn more Abt it....imagine how a not learnered man can understand all languages and interpret even going further to the spiritual tongues...

Our God is a powerful and mysterious god no one understand his ways 1cor 14:12 do not be children in ur thinking 1 Cor 12 :31 but u should be eager for the greater gifts

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Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by oyeludef(m): 7:39am On May 25, 2016
Kenneth4u205:
in the old testament, God relate to man through angels ( what I myself call angelic ministry).while in this new testament, God relate to man through his holy spirit(what I myself call holy spirit ministry).please don't get me wrong.hope you understand what I mean now?.

after God created the wold,the holy spirit and angels were very much active in the earth. but man became so corrupt and sinful that God decided to WITHDRAW his holy spirit from the earth(genesis 6:3)

so when God withdrew his holy spirit, the angels were the only medium between man and God.God was relating to man through his angels. that is what I myself termed angels or angelic ministry.

now after Jesus died on the Cross and set us right with God ,the holy spirit was once again restored to the earth (acts 2:3).when the holy spirit was restored again in the new testament,God again started relating to us through his holy spirit.he speaks to our heart through his holy spirit which was absent in the old testament.this is what I term the ministry of the holy spirit. the people of old have only angels.but we new testament Christians have both holy spirit and angels. we decree a word by the power of the holy spirit that dwells in us and the angels carry it out.
Could you please explain who angels are and who d Holy Spirit is?
Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by oyeludef(m): 7:44am On May 25, 2016
kallmemrB:
firstly who prays to angels? Secondly you not believing their are other angels is enuf for me to shut up ....am sure All u so called oversabis won't accept that also right....read 1 Cor 12 the likes of knowledge and discernment of spirit had to do with the mind...it's a communication instrument with the Holy Spirit...

Due to ur stubbornness and ego to be always right you all miss interpreted what Mr 2Kay wrote just to make sure he's put in the wrong ....what the innocent guy meant was a communication within him...sometimes he communicate with the Holy Spirit and they reveal the intention of others or what he needs to do to him...it's not until u sleep and dream that u see vision it goes beyond that ...before u start arguing blindly try to understand this gift and learn more Abt it....imagine how a not learnered man can understand all languages and interpret even going further to the spiritual tongues...

Our God is a powerful and mysterious god no one understand his ways 1cor 14:12 do not be children in ur thinking 1 Cor 12 :31 but u should be eager for the greater gifts
There are innumerable angels but d Bible never gave those names u mention. Call me oversabi or wateva u like but it doesn't change d fact dat u r a false prophet
Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by Nobody: 7:45am On May 25, 2016
Do u people even know there's more than 1 heaven?
Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by Nobody: 7:49am On May 25, 2016
oyeludef:

There are innumerable angels but d Bible never gave those names u mention. Call me oversabi or wateva u like but it doesn't change d fact dat u r a false prophet
u still need to study bible very well
Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by oyeludef(m): 7:53am On May 25, 2016
kallmemrB:
u still need to study bible very well
Alright u dat av studied ur bible, where did you find Raphael or uriel?
Y do u cele also study Quran? Isn't bible enough?
Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by zeongeon: 8:22am On May 25, 2016
oyeludef:

Alright u dat av studied ur bible, where did you find Raphael or uriel?
Y do u cele also study Quran? Isn't bible enough?
The Angel Raphael and Uriel are not in the protestant bible but they are in Jewish Torah and the Deuterocanonical books which are in the catholic bible.

You may not know Raphael or Uriel but the Jews know about them because they appear in there torah and catholics know about them cause its in the catholic bible.

For example in the book of Tobit the angel Raphael appeared to tobit and told him how to go about defeating the spiritual husband of his newly wedded wife that has killed 7 of her former husbands on there wedding night.

The Jewish people will tell you about the book of Esdras that was written by Ezra and how he communicated with angel Uriel on my the heart of man always leans towards evil.

However, with written accounts of these angels Christians really don't pay attention to them because.

- Christians don't practice Judaism

- Most old testament quotes in the new testament where not gotten from those deuterocanonical books.

In as much as we have and read our bibles with the very familiar books we shouldn't forget that God works in ways we don't understand. The old testament will have you go to the stream to bath seven times as an instruction from God and God hasn't stopped doing things mysteriously and unconventionally for he is still that same God that heals people through drinking of blessed water, use of blessed handkerchief and even just lying down flat on the altar. Don't forget God is also into the business of giving instructions like he was doing in the old testament in order to see results that's why you see some people being told to pray certain psalms and use anointing oil or even bath with water and they see results from following such instructions with faith.

We all chatting here even with our bible knowledge and privileged revelations don't even understand God one bit.

God is the same yesterday, today and forever.

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Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by Nobody: 10:35am On May 25, 2016
oyeludef:

Alright u dat av studied ur bible, where did you find Raphael or uriel?
Y do u cele also study Quran? Isn't bible enough?
we don't study Quran and those name where reveal by the angels themselves....it's all over the internet

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Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by Nobody: 10:39am On May 25, 2016
zeongeon:
The Angel Raphael and Uriel are not in the protestant bible but they are in Jewish Torah and the Deuterocanonical books which are in the catholic bible.

You may not know Raphael or Uriel but the Jews know about them because they appear in there torah and catholics know about them cause its in the catholic bible.

For example in the book of Tobit the angel Raphael appeared to tobit and told him how to go about defeating the spiritual husband of his newly wedded wife that has killed 7 of her former husbands on there wedding night.

The Jewish people will tell you about the book of Esdras that was written by Ezra and how he communicated with angel Uriel on my the heart of man always leans towards evil.

However, with written accounts of these angels Christians really don't pay attention to them because.

- Christians don't practice Judaism

- Most old testament quotes in the new testament where not gotten from those deuterocanonical books.

In as much as we have and read our bibles with the very familiar books we shouldn't forget that God works in ways we don't understand. The old testament will have you go to the stream to bath seven times as an instruction from God and God hasn't stopped doing things mysteriously and unconventionally for he is still that same God that heals people through drinking of blessed water, use of blessed handkerchief and even just lying down flat on the altar. Don't forget God is also into the business of giving instructions like he was doing in the old testament in order to see results that's why you see some people being told to pray certain psalms and use anointing oil or even bath with water and they see results from following such instructions with faith.

We all chatting here even with our bible knowledge and privileged revelations don't even understand God one bit.

God is the same yesterday, today and forever.
wow thanks so much for going further.....my question to them is that why do they read psalm when they clearly know it's part of the Old Testament

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Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by oyeludef(m): 12:01pm On May 25, 2016
zeongeon:
The Angel Raphael and Uriel are not in the protestant bible but they are in Jewish Torah and the Deuterocanonical books which are in the catholic bible.

You may not know Raphael or Uriel but the Jews know about them because they appear in there torah and catholics know about them cause its in the catholic bible.

For example in the book of Tobit the angel Raphael appeared to tobit and told him how to go about defeating the spiritual husband of his newly wedded wife that has killed 7 of her former husbands on there wedding night.

The Jewish people will tell you about the book of Esdras that was written by Ezra and how he communicated with angel Uriel on my the heart of man always leans towards evil.

However, with written accounts of these angels Christians really don't pay attention to them because.

- Christians don't practice Judaism

- Most old testament quotes in the new testament where not gotten from those deuterocanonical books.

In as much as we have and read our bibles with the very familiar books we shouldn't forget that God works in ways we don't understand. The old testament will have you go to the stream to bath seven times as an instruction from God and God hasn't stopped doing things mysteriously and unconventionally for he is still that same God that heals people through drinking of blessed water, use of blessed handkerchief and even just lying down flat on the altar. Don't forget God is also into the business of giving instructions like he was doing in the old testament in order to see results that's why you see some people being told to pray certain psalms and use anointing oil or even bath with water and they see results from following such instructions with faith.

We all chatting here even with our bible knowledge and privileged revelations don't even understand God one bit.

God is the same yesterday, today and forever.
Wat jews are you talk about? Jews were d ones that rejected the apocryphal books and Christian followed suit cos unto d jews were committed the oracles of God.
Apocryphal books are not even accepted by the jews so why r u patronizing us with dat? Genesis to malachi r d only books of the old testament so please wen next u read any article, make ur personal research. There is nowhere Rachael or uriel is mentioned in d 39 books of d old testament.
Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by oyeludef(m): 12:06pm On May 25, 2016
kallmemrB:
we don't study Quran and those name where reveal by the angels themselves....it's all over the internet
so because its all over d Internet, it is correct?
Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by oyeludef(m): 12:10pm On May 25, 2016
kallmemrB:
wow thanks so much for going further.....my question to them is that why do they read psalm when they clearly know it's part of the Old Testament
the psalms and all other books of d old testament were just a shadow of wat was coming. D berean christians read from the old testament(cos no new testament at dat time) to understand d new, dat doesn't mean dey were went into old testament practices. The whole of old testament points to Jesus Christ
Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by zeongeon: 1:54pm On May 25, 2016
oyeludef:

Wat jews are you talk about? Jews were d ones that rejected the apocryphal books and Christian followed suit cos unto d jews were committed the oracles of God.
Apocryphal books are not even accepted by the jews so why r u patronizing us with dat? Genesis to malachi r d only books of the old testament so please wen next u read any article, make ur personal research. There is nowhere Rachael or uriel is mentioned in d 39 books of d old testament.
Sir, Jews respect the apocrypha and don't outrightly reject it cause some stories and writings in the apocrypha are in the Talmud or Torah.

I am not trying to patronize anybody I am just saying what I know and read.

And as you can note from my write up I didn't mention or state that angel Uriel and Raphael are in the Protestant bible.

So you know this is a prayer for protection at night from the Talmud /Torah

To my right Michael and to my left Gabriel, in front of me Uriel and behind me Raphael, and over my head God's
Shekhinah ["the presence of God"]."
—From the Kriat Shma , prayer recited before the Shma when going to sleep.

I didn't write the apocrypha, I am not trying to argue or get you to agree with whatever I have written. I don't even look forward to anyone agreeing to what I post on here.

This world is deep and the spiritual is even deeper the best we can do is to ask God for his wisdom and guidance..Uriel and Raphael are not in the bible but they appear in Jewish prayers and there Torah. Its left for you to research to know more whilst still praying and enjoying relationship with God. Who knows Uriel and Raphael "may even" be in the bible you just need God to open your eyes...

There is even a Jewish school of thought that states that angels don't have known names and that the names we know them with where brought by the Israelites from Babylon..if we are to go by that then should we even believe in the names Michael and Gabriel?

I am here to learn and have knowledge of the spiritual through peoples experiences, write ups and advice on this thread.

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Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by Kenneth4u205(m): 2:00pm On May 25, 2016
oyeludef:

Genesis to malachi r d only books of the old testament so please wen next u read any article, make ur personal research. There is nowhere Rachael or uriel is mentioned in d 39 books of d old testament.
Many books were removed from the bible as shown by the following bible verse:
2 chronicles 9:29,
2 chronicles 12:15
Esther 10:2

2 Chronicles 9:29
29 As for the rest of the history of Sol′o·mon, from beginning to end, is it not written among the words of Nathan the prophet, in the prophecy of A·hi′jah the Shi′lo·nite, and in the record of visions of Id′do the visionary concerning Jer·o·bo′am the son of Ne′bat?


2 Chronicles 12:15
15 As for Re·ho·bo′am’s history, from beginning to end, is it not written among the words of She·mai′ah the prophet and of Id′do the visionary in the genealogical record? And there were constant wars between Re·ho·bo′am and Jer·o·bo′am.




Esther 10:2
2 And all his powerful and mighty accomplishments, as well as the detailed account of Mor′de·cai’s greatness to which the king exalted him, are they not written in the book of the history of the times of the kings of Me′di·a and Persia?

THE ABOVE THREE VERSES LISTED AT LEAST 5 BOOKS THAT WERE OMITTED FROM THE OLD TESTAMENT AS SHOWN BELOW


(1) THE BOOK OF NATHAN THE PROPHET

(2) BOOK OF PROPHECY OF AHIJAH

(3) BOOK OF VISION OF IDDO


(4) BOOK OF SHEMAIAH

(5) BOOK OF KINGS OF MEDIA AND PERSIA.

there are other good books that was removed like BOOK OF Enoch, jasser. Jubilee, tobit etc.

I have read and studied all those books and I support it removal from the Bible. Why did I support it removal?. because those books contain powerful deep secrets and wisdom that is not suitable for the kind OF carnal Christians we have Today.it is full OF deep truth about spiritual realms OF angels, demon's, and heavenly things.the knowledge from this books can be misused if it get into the wrong hands. That was why it was removed. And that is why I also support it removal. It is only meant for priest, levites,and those called into the office OF prophet, apostle, etc.The BOOK is full OF truths that is not suitable for layman to know.
Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by oyeludef(m): 3:45pm On May 25, 2016
Kenneth4u205:
Many books were removed from the bible as shown by the following bible verse:
2 chronicles 9:29,
2 chronicles 12:15
Esther 10:2

2 Chronicles 9:29
29 As for the rest of the history of Sol′o·mon, from beginning to end, is it not written among the words of Nathan the prophet, in the prophecy of A·hi′jah the Shi′lo·nite, and in the record of visions of Id′do the visionary concerning Jer·o·bo′am the son of Ne′bat?


2 Chronicles 12:15
15 As for Re·ho·bo′am’s history, from beginning to end, is it not written among the words of She·mai′ah the prophet and of Id′do the visionary in the genealogical record? And there were constant wars between Re·ho·bo′am and Jer·o·bo′am.




Esther 10:2
2 And all his powerful and mighty accomplishments, as well as the detailed account of Mor′de·cai’s greatness to which the king exalted him, are they not written in the book of the history of the times of the kings of Me′di·a and Persia?

THE ABOVE THREE VERSES LISTED AT LEAST 5 BOOKS THAT WERE OMITTED FROM THE OLD TESTAMENT AS SHOWN BELOW


(1) THE BOOK OF NATHAN THE PROPHET

(2) BOOK OF PROPHECY OF AHIJAH

(3) BOOK OF VISION OF IDDO


(4) BOOK OF SHEMAIAH

(5) BOOK OF KINGS OF MEDIA AND PERSIA.

there are other good books that was removed like BOOK OF Enoch, jasser. Jubilee, tobit etc.

I have read and studied all those books and I support it removal from the Bible. Why did I support it removal?. because those books contain powerful deep secrets and wisdom that is not suitable for the kind OF carnal Christians we have Today.it is full OF deep truth about spiritual realms OF angels, demon's, and heavenly things.the knowledge from this books can be misused if it get into the wrong hands. That was why it was removed. And that is why I also support it removal. It is only meant for priest, levites,and those called into the office OF prophet, apostle, etc.The BOOK is full OF truths that is not suitable for layman to know.





not all books dat were written qualified as scriptures, remember dey were all in scrolls but some were compiled and accepted as scriptures by d Jewish (check out dis link http://www.jewfaq.org/m/torah.html)
D impression dat u r trying to give is like there was a book, nd some books were removed from it but dat isn't d case. There are scrolls written throughout different ages but d jews accept just some as d oracles of God ie inspired. All d apocryphal books av never been accepted by the jews as inspired and so aren't part of the Torah
Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by oyeludef(m): 3:58pm On May 25, 2016
zeongeon:
Sir, Jews respect the apocrypha and don't outrightly reject it cause some stories and writings in the apocrypha are in the Talmud or Torah.

I am not trying to patronize anybody I am just saying what I know and read.

And as you can note from my write up I didn't mention or state that angel Uriel and Raphael are in the Protestant bible.

So you know this is a prayer for protection at night from the Talmud /Torah

To my right Michael and to my left Gabriel, in front of me Uriel and behind me Raphael, and over my head God's
Shekhinah ["the presence of God"]."
—From the Kriat Shma , prayer recited before the Shma when going to sleep.

I didn't write the apocrypha, I am not trying to argue or get you to agree with whatever I have written. I don't even look forward to anyone agreeing to what I post on here.

This world is deep and the spiritual is even deeper the best we can do is to ask God for his wisdom and guidance..Uriel and Raphael are not in the bible but they appear in Jewish prayers and there Torah. Its left for you to research to know more whilst still praying and enjoying relationship with God. Who knows Uriel and Raphael "may even" be in the bible you just need God to open your eyes...

There is even a Jewish school of thought that states that angels don't have known names and that the names we know them with where brought by the Israelites from Babylon..if we are to go by that then should we even believe in the names Michael and Gabriel?

I am here to learn and have knowledge of the spiritual through peoples experiences, write ups and advice on this thread.
Sir knowledge is good and i admire ur quest for it. I just av to tell you dat d devil has been in existence since d beginning of mankind and has always tried or attempted to corrupt d knowledge of God. As apostle paul said, unto d jews were committed d oracles of God. The jews av utmost respect for the Torah nd cannot just discard any part of it. The books of the Torah was compiled by dem nd they are are stated in d link http://www.jewfaq.org/m/torah.htm
Judaism was a shadow Christianity so today we av d real deal. Paul d apostles said he could only boast of the knowledge of Jesus d crucified even though he was a well learned jew. Y don't u channel ur curiosity into knowing more about Christ.? There is so much to learn about Him.
Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by zeongeon: 4:16pm On May 25, 2016
oyeludef:

Sir knowledge is good and i admire ur quest for it. I just av to tell you dat d devil has been in existence since d beginning of mankind and has always tried or attempted to corrupt d knowledge of God. As apostle paul said, unto d jews were committed d oracles of God. The jews av utmost respect for the Torah nd cannot just discard any part of it. The books of the Torah was compiled by dem nd they are are stated in d link http://www.jewfaq.org/m/torah.htm
Judaism was a shadow Christianity so today we av d real deal. Paul d apostles said he could only boast of the knowledge of Jesus d crucified even though he was a well learned jew. Y don't u channel ur curiosity into knowing more about Christ.? There is so much to learn about Him.
Yes I am channeling my "curiosity" to know about Christ too. However, when it comes to Christ curiosity isn't what Christ wants from me but a relationship..Christ deals with Us through revelations and inspirations that comes with studying the word of God...When it comes to Christ I focus on a relationship and not just studying like I do for other things. My quest for knowledge is to the glory of GOD, to enhance my faith in Jesus Christ and to also enable me talk freely with those whose religion or believes are different from mine in so doing getting them into a comfort zone where I can tell them about Jesus Christ.

The truth at times is that we are not comfortable with peoples perspective because we have brought ourselves down patiently to see why they believe in what they believe in.

You just said the Jews can't discard any part of the Torah but the Torah has Raphael and Uriel that where not mentioned in the bible....Since the Jews where committed as oracles of God and they have Raphael and Uriel in there Torah what do you have to say about it when people believe in Raphael and Uriel...That's why I say the world is deep and the spiritual is deeper.
Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by GoodMuyis(m): 4:37pm On May 25, 2016
Brothers i humbly resquested that you allow me to be the Elihu the Buzite of our time.

I am a member here and i knew where we disagree in certain issue. Am not old enough to instruct but i believed you will accept my opinion.

The issue of ministration of angels should be a non issue, everyone is free to choose what to believed but i rather believed on Holy Ghost than angel.

We all have different demonination background and i beileved some may be born into it, and should know more about our church. I have saind it earlier that Denomitionation creates divide.

Lets use this platform to unite despite our differences, so that unbelievers or weak in faith will not be discourage.
Lets attend to everyone with love and patience, new cormer to this thread will have the mindset of a typical nairalander (arguement **laugh**) even if what was needed is just explanation.

for the fact that we disagree; that doesnt make a sinner or less

kallmemrB is not the one sending dark angel i believed; but if he is let him repent.
Lets show love to one another, if you will show love today click like cool smiley

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Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by Nobody: 7:57pm On May 25, 2016
GoodMuyis:
Brothers i humbly resquested that you allow me to be the Elihu the Buzite of our time.

I am a member here and i knew where we disagree in certain issue. Am not old enough to instruct but i believed you will accept my opinion.

The issue of ministration of angels should be a non issue, everyone is free to choose what to believed but i rather believed on Holy Ghost than angel.

We all have different demonination background and i beileved some may be born into it, and should know more about our church. I have saind it earlier that Denomitionation creates divide.

Lets use this platform to unite despite our differences, so that unbelievers or weak in faith will not be discourage.
Lets attend to everyone with love and patience, new cormer to this thread will have the mindset of a typical nairalander (arguement **laugh**) even if what was needed is just explanation.

for the fact that we disagree; that doesnt make a sinner or less

kallmemrB is not the one sending dark angel i believed; but if he is let him repent.
Lets show love to one another, if you will show love today click like cool smiley
bro thanks hare but honestly I don't even have time to think of Nairaland notwithstanding thinking of a user there...am a Christain that lives on the foundation of Christ

But honestly when u spend all ur life talking Abt demon pls what do u expect? Am sure his likes when they have stomachache or headache they will call it demons attack
Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by sonofthunder: 8:05pm On May 25, 2016
superior1:


Someone who isn't happy with stuffs I wrote here sent some terribly smelling entities towards my direction to see if I can be taught some bitter lessons, they hanged around for some minutes and departed, I was in a metro heading my house from work.

I know there is a huge demonic activities on this website as it is common in many public domains, I guess I have never really taken it serious neither have I considered the extent of their desperation. I remember Ishilove mentioned something of that nature.

There is actually a battle going on here.
you guys are correct... I have had encounters with these sons of Belial.
God bless everyone here.
@goodmuyis ... Elihu should at least be an elder by now, Lol.
Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by Nobody: 8:06pm On May 25, 2016
Kenneth4u205:
Many books were removed from the bible as shown by the following bible verse:
2 chronicles 9:29,
2 chronicles 12:15
Esther 10:2

2 Chronicles 9:29
29 As for the rest of the history of Sol′o·mon, from beginning to end, is it not written among the words of Nathan the prophet, in the prophecy of A·hi′jah the Shi′lo·nite, and in the record of visions of Id′do the visionary concerning Jer·o·bo′am the son of Ne′bat?


2 Chronicles 12:15
15 As for Re·ho·bo′am’s history, from beginning to end, is it not written among the words of She·mai′ah the prophet and of Id′do the visionary in the genealogical record? And there were constant wars between Re·ho·bo′am and Jer·o·bo′am.




Esther 10:2
2 And all his powerful and mighty accomplishments, as well as the detailed account of Mor′de·cai’s greatness to which the king exalted him, are they not written in the book of the history of the times of the kings of Me′di·a and Persia?

THE ABOVE THREE VERSES LISTED AT LEAST 5 BOOKS THAT WERE OMITTED FROM THE OLD TESTAMENT AS SHOWN BELOW


(1) THE BOOK OF NATHAN THE PROPHET

(2) BOOK OF PROPHECY OF AHIJAH

(3) BOOK OF VISION OF IDDO


(4) BOOK OF SHEMAIAH

(5) BOOK OF KINGS OF MEDIA AND PERSIA.

there are other good books that was removed like BOOK OF Enoch, jasser. Jubilee, tobit etc.

I have read and studied all those books and I support it removal from the Bible. Why did I support it removal?. because those books contain powerful deep secrets and wisdom that is not suitable for the kind OF carnal Christians we have Today.it is full OF deep truth about spiritual realms OF angels, demon's, and heavenly things.the knowledge from this books can be misused if it get into the wrong hands. That was why it was removed. And that is why I also support it removal. It is only meant for priest, levites,and those called into the office OF prophet, apostle, etc.The BOOK is full OF truths that is not suitable for layman to know.





there more books than you know...not all the records of Old Testament and new testament are in the bible for instance not all record of the whole disciples where in the bible

Secondly I mention something Abt multiple heavens but they all kept quiet....

My advice is don't fight what u don't understand,try to learn more
Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by GoodMuyis(m): 9:18pm On May 25, 2016
kallmemrB:
bro thanks hare but honestly I don't even have time to think of Nairaland notwithstanding thinking of a user there...am a Christain that lives on the foundation of Christ

But honestly when u spend all ur life talking Abt demon pls what do u expect? Am sure his likes when they have stomachache or headache they will call it demons attack

LOVE REIGN does not RESIGN
Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by GoodMuyis(m): 9:21pm On May 25, 2016
Last week I wanted to share my Opinion on ACTIVATE THE BREAKTHROUGH but i was distracted, I may share later when am on PC

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Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by JMG1: 6:13am On May 26, 2016
GoodMuyis:
Last week I wanted to share my Opinion on ACTIVATE THE BREAKTHROUGH but i was distracted, I may share later when am on PC
Abeg share bro. Maybe this will shift this demon/angel/Holy Ghost knowledge brethren here are arguing about.
Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by oyeludef(m): 6:58am On May 26, 2016
zeongeon:
Yes I am channeling my "curiosity" to know about Christ too. However, when it comes to Christ curiosity isn't what Christ wants from me but a relationship..Christ deals with Us through revelations and inspirations that comes with studying the word of God...When it comes to Christ I focus on a relationship and not just studying like I do for other things. My quest for knowledge is to the glory of GOD, to enhance my faith in Jesus Christ and to also enable me talk freely with those whose religion or believes are different from mine in so doing getting them into a comfort zone where I can tell them about Jesus Christ.

The truth at times is that we are not comfortable with peoples perspective because we have brought ourselves down patiently to see why they believe in what they believe in.

You just said the Jews can't discard any part of the Torah but the Torah has Raphael and Uriel that where not mentioned in the bible....Since the Jews where committed as oracles of God and they have Raphael and Uriel in there Torah what do you have to say about it when people believe in Raphael and Uriel...That's why I say the world is deep and the spiritual is deeper.
in d link attached in my post, all d books dat makes up d Torah are listed and no apocryphal books was there, or can u mention d book in Torah where day were mentioned? Raphael and uriel could b fallen angels u know? Why don't u provide evidence to show dat apocryphal books are accepted by Jews? Lets start from there.
About Jesus, just like casting crown said, d more u know Him, d more u will want to know Him . He is too deep.
Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by Nobody: 7:33am On May 26, 2016
oyeludef:
in d link attached in my post, all d books dat makes up d Torah are listed and no apocryphal books was there, or can u mention d book in Torah where day were mentioned? Raphael and uriel could b fallen angels u know? Why don't u provide evidence to show dat apocryphal books are accepted by Jews? Lets start from there.
About Jesus, just like casting crown said, d more u know Him, d more u will want to know Him . He is too deep.
In the Book of Enoch, Uriel is one of the arch­angels who protected humankind from the Watch­ers (a group of fallen angels), including guiding the prophet Enoch, who later ascended into the archan­gel realm as Metatron. Am sure u will argue again that book of Enoch ain't real

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