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Re: I Had An Accident (PICTURE): Unraveling the foolishness in God's protection by PastorAIO: 12:00pm On May 30, 2016 |
Julianyao: Not every theist is a christian. 1 Like |
Re: I Had An Accident (PICTURE): Unraveling the foolishness in God's protection by Nobody: 12:36pm On May 30, 2016 |
PastorAIO:I know that. It's just that your username made me feel that way cos I haven't been following your posts. |
Re: I Had An Accident (PICTURE): Unraveling the foolishness in God's protection by theoneJabulani(m): 1:37pm On May 30, 2016 |
PastorAIO:Hera turn a woman to a bear cos Zeus had an interest in her. Odysseus was punished for 20 years for not given the gods due credit. The Trojans were punished for serving different gods. Go and study Greek mythology. Even some Christians believe anyone outside their sect won't make heaven. |
Re: I Had An Accident (PICTURE): Unraveling the foolishness in God's protection by PastorAIO: 2:18pm On May 30, 2016 |
theoneJabulani: O boy, your own don pass matter. You're obviously incapable of following an argument. Let's just forget it. |
Re: I Had An Accident (PICTURE): Unraveling the foolishness in God's protection by PastorAIO: 2:23pm On May 30, 2016 |
Julianyao: It's an understandable misunderstanding. |
Re: I Had An Accident (PICTURE): Unraveling the foolishness in God's protection by theoneJabulani(m): 4:01pm On May 30, 2016 |
PastorAIO:lol was about to say the same. Which God? The first and most obvious problem with Pascal's Wager? It assumes there's only one religion, and only one version of God. Pascal's Wager assumes the choice between religion and atheism is simple. You pick either religion, or no religion. Belief in God, or no belief in God. One, or the other. But as anyone knows who's read even a little history -- or who's turned on a TV in the last 10 years -- there are hundreds upon hundreds of different religions, and different gods these religions believe in. Thousands, if you count all the little sub-sects separately. Tens of thousands or more, if you count every religion throughout history that anyone's ever believed in. Even among today's Big Five, there are hundreds of variations: sects of Christianity, for instance, include Catholic, Baptist, Presbyterian, Anglican, Methodist, Lutheran, Mormon, United Church of Christ, Jehovah's Witness, etc. etc. etc. And sub-sects of these sects include Roman Catholic, Greek Orthodox, Southern Baptist, American Baptist, Mormonism (mainstream LDS version), Mormonism (cultish polygamous version), Mormonism (repulsive infant-torturing version), Church of England, American Episcopalian, Wisconsin Evangelical Lutheran Synod.... How do you know which one to wager on? The differences between these gods and religions aren't trivial. If you obey the rules of one, you're guaranteed to be violating the rules of another. If you worship Jesus, and Islam turns out to right -- you're screwed. If you worship Allah, and Judaism turns out to be right -- you're screwed. If you worship Jehovah, and Jainism turns out to be right -- you're screwed. Even if you get the broad strokes right, you could be getting the finer points wrong. And in many religions, the finer points matter a lot . Taking Communion or not taking Communion? Baptizing at birth or at the age of reason? Ordaining women as priests or not? Any of these could get you sent straight to hell. No matter if you're Catholic, or Baptist, or Mormon, or Anglican, or whatever... there are a whole bunch of other Christians out there who are absolutely convinced that you've gotten Christianity totally wrong, and that you're just pissing God off more and more every day. So how on Earth is religion a safer bet? You're just as likely to be angering God with your belief as atheists are with our lack of it. To many believers, the answer to the "Which god?" question seems obvious. It's their god, of course. Like, duh. But to someone who doesn't believe -- to someone being presented with Pascal's Wager as a reason to believe -- the answer to "Which god?" is anything but obvious. To someone who doesn't believe, the question is both baffling and crucial. And without some decent evidence supporting one god hypothesis over another, the "Which god?" question renders Pascal's Wager utterly useless. Unless you have some actual good evidence that your particular religion is the right one and all the others are wrong, your bet on God is just as shaky as the atheist's bet on no God. And if you had some good evidence that your religion was right, you wouldn't be resorting to Pascal's Wager to make your case. |
Re: I Had An Accident (PICTURE): Unraveling the foolishness in God's protection by Blackfire(m): 4:18pm On May 30, 2016 |
Pyrrho: you talk like a child who left his loving parents house, based on a half baked lies from a wicked uncle, lies that makes u question even the love of your parents, . ... U left the house in annoyance, they knowing fully well to argue with u will only aggravate the situation, keep quiet hope- ing u will find the answer out there. ... So u left. I will implore u personally to enjoy outside, explore the unexplorable, deny even your family name, make mockery of the love they had for u... One day something will happen, u will cry so hard with tears running down from your heart calling on your loving father. But remember what i said make sure u insult that 'yahweh' very well, write the name of Jesus on a paper and rub poo on it, wake up 2 o'clock in the night and say foolish god come and kill me, am no more yours am still alive. This is blackfire. |
Re: I Had An Accident (PICTURE): Unraveling the foolishness in God's protection by Nobody: 4:23pm On May 30, 2016 |
Blackfire: You're welcome. I don see you. |
Re: I Had An Accident (PICTURE): Unraveling the foolishness in God's protection by Blackfire(m): 4:26pm On May 30, 2016 |
Pyrrho: i ve welcome myself, but i hope u see yourself in yourself. |
Re: I Had An Accident (PICTURE): Unraveling the foolishness in God's protection by Nobody: 4:34pm On May 30, 2016 |
Blackfire:Calm down. You'll get your chance to talk. |
Re: I Had An Accident (PICTURE): Unraveling the foolishness in God's protection by Blackfire(m): 4:41pm On May 30, 2016 |
Re: I Had An Accident (PICTURE): Unraveling the foolishness in God's protection by Nobody: 4:44pm On May 30, 2016 |
Blackfire:Nah, I'm not. Quote me another time. |
Re: I Had An Accident (PICTURE): Unraveling the foolishness in God's protection by sesaan(m): 5:47pm On May 30, 2016 |
There is nothing like god or God, people are in a mental slavery,, imagine god being every where at every time, listening to every prayer... Ok boko boys will pray nigerian army will pray too before going to battle who will god answr?? As a theoritical physicist if he really exist he we would have been able to predict him within margin of error in quantum experiments.. Every thing feeds on the death of another so is the world you die your memories die with you.. |
Re: I Had An Accident (PICTURE): Unraveling the foolishness in God's protection by davien(m): 7:23pm On May 30, 2016 |
sesaan: |
Re: I Had An Accident (PICTURE): Unraveling the foolishness in God's protection by andyanders: 7:51pm On May 30, 2016 |
kepstone: Thank you my brother for saying my heart and my mind herein as regards to the subject. I pray that God give him grace to see the light. It is like when the devil hardens their mind, they think there is no God. Having to survive an accident twice is a grace but having his mind hardened is of the devil that has taken over his entire being. It is not God's wish for us to perish. |
Re: I Had An Accident (PICTURE): Unraveling the foolishness in God's protection by Nobody: 8:49pm On May 30, 2016 |
The world works mentally, but I believe we are not alone. |
Re: I Had An Accident (PICTURE): Unraveling the foolishness in God's protection by analice107: 10:39pm On May 30, 2016 |
Blackfire:My dear tell him. Even if he takes your advice and does a that, Christ still won't be mad at him, He is still sitting at the Mercy seat, when He rises, then the Grace will expire. What scares the most is knowing that one day, He'll get up from that Mercy seat. |
Re: I Had An Accident (PICTURE): Unraveling the foolishness in God's protection by dankol: 10:28pm On Jun 01, 2016 |
andyanders: Chai... Bro.. what if he had died... Many of you here will go and given testimony in church about one sturborn athesit who had been drawing men away from the kingdom on nairaland and begin to sound note of warning to others to desist or end up like him just as it is done with deedat. Bro, the law of Probability is too powerful for religion to undermine. Grace has nothing to do with that shit that happened. Moreover, by all religous standard, he does not deserve grace sef.. grace of jeovah or grace of allah? which of the graces? Any small thing, christians will call grace, that is how a colleague of mine told me, he cant but eat three square meal i.e 111 in a day and i told him, i can stay strong even in 001, h replied, "You get sufficient grace ooo, i envy you oooo". I just looked at him and shook my head in pity. The grace that was sufficient for an athesit was not sufficient for the christians who died in the Nyanya bomb blast right? Some thing is definately wrong with GRACE 2 Likes |
Re: I Had An Accident (PICTURE): Unraveling the foolishness in God's protection by Joagbaje(m): 8:06am On Jun 02, 2016 |
dankol: Not at all . Love doesn't rejoice in evil. We believe in Gods mercy and patience. Gods judgement already had a time . Judgement day. If any man perish for his wrong now God is not responsible . There's law of sowing and reaping. . The cup of evil gets filled at different times for different people. Some call it law of carma |
Re: I Had An Accident (PICTURE): Unraveling the foolishness in God's protection by dankol: 7:52am On Jun 07, 2016 |
Joagbaje: Sir.. The bible says God is love.. He does not want ANYONE to perish... Please who created evil? Yet love (God) rejoice not in evil (he created). By biblical standard.. God practice favouritism.. He can decide to kill you like a cockroach or leave ur miserable life for u till he decides to snuff it out... And yet he is the sheperd, healer, provider, protector. What happened to his protective ability during bomb blast, yet he never sleeps, he never slumber... Religion is a well packaged haox |
Re: I Had An Accident (PICTURE): Unraveling the foolishness in God's protection by UyiIredia(m): 8:00am On Jun 07, 2016 |
I don't see any unravelling of the foolishness of God's protection. Just stories from an atheist who was lucky to survive an accident. Twice. |
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