.

Ol' boy I don miss ooo.....why al of una dey wicked A 40 like this,let there be peace

Dadehmola:


The emboldened is very inaccurate....

At his prime, Alves was arguably the most balanced Fullback in the world - he wasn't your typical Brazillian Wing-back forward in the mould of Cicinho, Marcelo, Maicon, Rafael etc who have always been defensively suspect.

More than often, Barca's possession/ attack-minded style of play saw the brazillian make forays in the opposition's half for extended periods in virtually all matches but heck...Alves was pretty solid at the back - he was excellent in 1v1 situations & also had an impressive work rate.

Like GBR1 enthused earlier....................

Alves at his peak>>>>>>>>Lahm at his peak

In terms of longetivity/Consistency, the German wins!

I wholely disagree. Alvez has always been defensively suspect. He is very much your archetypical Brazilian wingback. Superb when the game is played in the opposition half but can be found wanting when it's the other way around.

When exactly was Alves's peak years so that we can compare?. Imo not only was Lahm the better player, He was also the more balanced(very well rounded)and intelligent one.

Nihilist:


Don't care at all if we stay in or out

Dude I care o. Those Eastern European Chics are very hot. Lest I forget good in bedmatics too. They must not be allowed to leave abeg.

chic2pimp:


Dude I care o. Those Eastern European Chics are very hot. Lest I forget good in bedmatics too. They must not be allowed to leave abeg.

Thats the thing.

In or Out, the EU immigrants already here cannot be kicked out, at least according to Michael Gove.

Why should I waste my time and energy voting for or against a policy that has no direct effect on my life, when I can sit at work,drink coffee and watch gladiatorial contests on Nairaland.

.

Debroslink:


Just like Mobi Oparaku will win titles in that Bayern Liga. OK remove Bayern, Barca Germany and Brazil where you can win titles even in their clinic.

Tell us what Lahm won in Stuttgart. Fact is Stuttgart won the league title immediately Lahm left them to be a passenger at Bayern.

Alves was a confirmed beast before joining Barca. He won almost everything in club football for a small club.

What did Mascherano win before joining Barca? That means Subotic must be better than him

Passenger that Captained and lifted two of the biggest trophies in football

Made Euro All-Time XI

Finished 5th and 6th in European Player of The Year and FIFA Balon D'Or awards

3 Time World Cup All-star

2 Time Euro All-star

I want to be a passenger like this man

While you are at it tell us why Alves has not been able to win the World Cup or even make any contributions to the cause of a 5 time Champion? An International nonentity who could not achieve anything of significance in elite competition outside Barca

Even Nzonzi, Tremoulinas and Krychowiak have won back to back Europa League titles so say something else

Alves owes his career to playing with Messi, Xavi, Iniesta and Suarez

He is not better than Abbey George if we look at it critically

airmark:


It's not difficult to detect a foolish comparison from a dolt. I await your boss rebuttal. I will be stvpid replying you again.

Shut up your mouth. Apoche cra cra GOOFANTI

Come and explain why Portugal is a superpower?

You are being asked to defend your m0ronic utterances and you want to run. Is Belgium also a Superpower using your Apoche cra cra logic

Pelu ori e to da bi Igun yen. You are so brainless

You cannot do without replying me. Your survival is tied to it that is why you always stick your good for nothing keister anywhere A-40 is posting

Nuisance

A40:

What did Mascherano win before joining Barca? That means Subotic must be better than him

Passenger that Captained and lifted two of the biggest trophies in football

Made Euro All-Time XI

Finished 5th and 6th in European Player of The Year and FIFA Balon D'Or awards

3 Time World Cup All-star

2 Time Euro All-star

I want to be a passenger like this man

While you are at it tell us why Alves has not been able to win the World Cup or even make any contributions to the cause of a 5 time Champion? An International nonentity who could not achieve anything of significance in elite competition outside Barca

Even Nzonzi, Tremoulinas and Krychowiak have won back to back Europa League titles so say something else

Alves owes his career to playing with Messi, Xavi, Iniesta and Suarez

He is not better than Abbey George if we look at it critically

Using this criteria, can you please tell me why Boateng Is better than Abbey George?

Nihilist:

Using this criteria, can you please tell me why Boateng Is better than Abbey George?

Can Abbey George dominate a World Cup Final like Boateng did??

A40:

Can Abbey George dominate a World Cup Final like Boateng did??

Your very first paragraph implies that Abbey George doesn't need to win anything and still be better than Boateng.

Indeed you have to get to a WC final to dominate a WC final.

Are you saying Boateng is better than Abbey because Jerome played in a WC final?

dmcdad:

So you think you can insult? Bruv, you ain't got shiit in your arsenal. You gave me a fair warning? Chai, I dey shame for you.
So the few lines you were able to cook up were punches per se? Like really insults? Dude, you have not done any damage whatsoever. The only punches I have maybe felt were like having bread socked in water thrown at you. I mean, that ain't nothing!
So because I wasn't ready to do the new norm of having a merry-go-round argument where no one clearly comes out the victor or the loser, then you think you have schooled me? I'll beat you in any subject, no be say na mouth.
Do you regard arguing back-and-forth as intelligent or plain stupidity? Because if I were to engage in any argument, I must be sure that the other party has something of sort to bring to the table. If I discover the other fellow doesn't have anything tangible to offer, other than wanting us to toll the circle of arguments that is being prevalent on this board in recent times, then I would shield my sword and not bother to waste my precious time investing on a matter than wouldn't benefit me intellectually.
And, if you were to use one of the fallacies subsequently, please make sure you use it rightly cause you started with Argumentum ad Hominem and not the other way round. So, stop using something you know little knowledge about.

I don't think but to ba da e lo ju you can try me. Lets see if I will not have you seriously reevaluating your existence in this life.

I have not started with you yet, Go and ask other victims that now rely on my posts for their daily survival and the ones I have turned to monitor lizards as well. By the time I am done breaking down your psyche na body go tell you

Nobody cares about what you are ready or not ready to do. I was not even on this thread when I was invited to state my position on Alves and Lahm. I did and if you were not in agreement you could have walked away without throwing mor0nic side jabs while you were at it. Why is that simple action so difficult for you charlatans to understand

Hahahahaha you and me on any intellectual subject is like Sanyeri vs Alistair Overeem in a UFC fight. If e sure for you pick a topic and take 10 paces and spin and lets see who draws first

What were you bringing to the table in the argument you confused nincompoop. We are comparing full-backs and you are talking about goals and assists. Efulefu. Better stick to your Up Messi, Demi-god Messi, Up Barka, Penaldo rants and leave actual football debates for the virtuosos

I can see you are already suffering from Alzheimer's. Why then did I warn you not to go the insult route as I did not have brakes or filters a statement your Ekpan Fly IQ miscontrued to mean I don't insult people.

Who is this halfwit trying to correct? You are way in over your head. I used an abbreviated version of a word and this oponu wants to form pseudo-intellectual. What a douche

"Stop using something you know little knowledge about"

Your ignorance suppose come with certificate

OK looks like round 2 is bout to begin.

I still have another hour on this train, so I'm ready for you guys

Keep it dirty, and let there be blood please.

Nihilist:


Your very first paragraph implies that Abbey George doesn't need to win anything and still be better than Boateng.

Indeed you have to get to a WC final to dominate a WC final.

Are you saying Boateng is better than Abbey because Jerome played in a WC final?

The illustration was clearly for Barca not the German National Team. I don't quite get the connection you are trying to make here. Is the German National team loaded with as much talent as Barca is?

Messi, Suarez, Neymar, Iniesta, Xavi, Eto'o. Do they play for Germany?

Nihilist is it Waterside, Shrine or Isale Eko SK you are smoking wey dey make you dey skip like this?

Dadehmola:


The emboldened is very inaccurate....

At his prime, Alves was arguably the most balanced Fullback in the world - he wasn't your typical Brazillian Wing-back forward in the mould of Cicinho, Marcelo, Maicon, Rafael etc who have always been defensively suspect.

More than often, Barca's possession/ attack-minded style of play saw the brazillian make forays in the opposition's half for extended periods in virtually all matches but heck...Alves was pretty solid at the back - he was excellent in 1v1 situations & also had an impressive work rate.

Like GBR1 enthused earlier....................

Alves at his peak>>>>>>>>Lahm at his peak

In terms of longetivity/Consistency, the German wins!

does the longevity stuff even hold up?
alves is about to embark on another phase with Juventus seeing as how nobody can touch that team for Italy,his campaign is bound to be successful.
if he continue at his present level he could get an extension like they just did for Evra.
that is three teams he'll be leaving a mark on.
sheet is to close if you think about.
I would've gone for lahm without much thought if I was I asked,but now I just dey wonder.

A40:


The illustration was clearly for Barca not the German National Team. I don't quite get the connection you are trying to make here. Is the German National team loaded with as much talent as Barca is?

Messi, Suarez, Neymar, Iniesta, Xavi, Eto'o. Do they play for Germany?

Nihilist is it Waterside, Shrine or Isale Eko SK you are smoking wey dey make you dey skip like this?

Has Abbey George ever played with the sort of quality they Boateng has either on international or club stage?

So how then Is Boateng better than Abbey?

I can see you made the distinction using individual awards to give Lahm the edge over Alves.

Does Boateng have any individual awards advantage over Abbey?

I'm just curious.

homesteady:

Bla Blah Blahhh!
Alves - Was arguably Sevilla's best player during his time there, led them to 2 Europa cups, UEFA super cup, Copa del rey and almost a league trophy! He went to Barcelona and boom, Barcelona built arguably the best team the world had ever seen after some trophyless seasons!
Lahm - He was in Bayer that was already dominant, he went to Stuttgart for 2 seasons, he did no shït! He even played in Europa cup in which like 2 years later Alves won player of the tournament! Meanwhile Bayer were still wining trophies in his absence! He went back and continued wining trophies with Bayer!
Biko who best fits the description of a passenger among this 2?

Unku Europa League is nothing to shout about. Nzonzi, Krychowiak and Gameiro have multiple wins in that Grade B tournament. The big teams in Spain at that period were largely in dormancy sef if we critically check am. This Sevilla team would be boasting of Copa Del Rey wins too if not for the behemoth teams they have to face.

Of course I agree Lahm did nothing in Stuttgart but in the end he was deemed good enough to return to Bayern who were not exactly superpowers at the time, he returned and the rest is history. Bayern went from Local Champion to Treble winners. The only difference is Lahm's brilliance didn't end in his club

For country it gets bad for Alves who is still dragging shirt with MAICON who was last an elite Fullback when Blackberry Torch was the coolest phone in the market.

Meanwhile Phillip Lahm was leading the assault for Germany when they sod0mized Brazil in their homeland. A match this so-called Dani Alves was not even deemed good enough to play in.

Dani Alves is not just a passenger but an International non-entity yet to shine for Brazil at any elite competition unlike Lahm who has won a World Cup and played in a Euro Final.

Add that to the fact that even a 45 year old Sylvinho could start for Barca in a Champions League Final at full back with Barca still winning comfortably, buttresses the point that even Abbey George would play full back at Barca and win titles

Nihilist:


Has Abbey George ever played with the sort of quality they Boateng has either on international or club stage?

So how then Is Boateng better than Abbey?

I can see you made the distinction using individual awards to give Lahm the edge over Alves.

Does Boateng have any individual awards advantage over Abbey?

I'm just curious.

I don't care for Individual awards per se. If you follow the trail of the argument you would see I was not the one that brought it up. They implied Alves was more decorated than Lahm even at individual level. A grievous mistake.

Now back to Abbey George. The answer is simple for the mere fact that we don't have the sheer quality of MSN. Henry, Eto'o and Villa not forgetting the legendary midfield as well, we do not have the luxury of carrying a passenger like Abbey George would be without being brutally punished. Not at CB at least.

It is easier to carry a passenger at RB than at CB.

chic2pimp:


Alvez was an average defender during his peak years. That's why He was never able to displace Maicon in the National Team

Alves was above average when defending. Brazil's preference for Maicon doesn't change that. I think you are underrating Maicon who had excellent performances for Inter during that period (2007-2010). Regardless i think the Brazilian team selection is a very poor metric to rate Alves low in defending because in recent times the selection has been more or less a joke. Dunga is a lunatic and makes some very ridiculous choices. Decisions like Fred as CF, or freezing Silva out of the team are very questionable etc. That's why this assertion of yours is quite negligible in this debate as a good premise. Now if R.Carlos who actually was quite poor at defending at all levels(club/country) could earn so many caps because of his attacking abilities, what does that tell you about Alves? In fact i believe this misconception of Alves being a poor defender is linked with Carlos experiences as a defender.

If you're still in doubt check out Alves defending stats in the last few years(when he's declined actually), and even compare it to Lahm; you'd find surprises there.

A40:

I don't think but to ba da e lo ju you can try me. Lets see if I will not have you seriously reevaluating your existence in this life.

I have not started with you yet, Go and ask other victims that now rely on my posts for their daily survival and the ones I have turned to monitor lizards as well. By the time I am done breaking down your psyche na body go tell you

Nobody cares about what you are ready or not ready to do. I was not even on this thread when I was invited to state my position on Alves and Lahm. I did and if you were not in agreement you could have walked away without throwing mor0nic side jabs while you were at it. Why is that simple action so difficult for you charlatans to understand

Hahahahaha you and me on any intellectual subject is like Sanyeri vs Alistair Overeem in a UFC fight. If e sure for you pick a topic and take 10 paces and spin and lets see who draws first

What were you bringing to the table in the argument you confused nincompoop. We are comparing full-backs and you are talking about goals and assists. Efulefu. Better stick to your Up Messi, Demi-god Messi, Up Barka, Penaldo rants and leave actual football debates for the virtuosos

I can see you are already suffering from Alzheimer's. Why then did I warn you not to go the insult route as I did not have brakes or filters a statement your Ekpan Fly IQ miscontrued to mean I don't insult people.

Who is this halfwit trying to correct? You are way in over your head. I used an abbreviated version of a word and this oponu wants to form pseudo-intellectual. What a douche

"Stop using something you know little knowledge about"

Your ignorance suppose come with certificate

I always laugh whenever I read your posts. You know why? After spending much time racking your brains out in responding to my posts, you end up feeling fly about yourself.

Bruv... As per the correction, I didn't even highlight it to say you abbreviated it. You used it in the wrong instance bruv. Just take simple correction and let's move on with it. Stop forming what you are not. You are not even close to the peeps one would wanna reckon with as intelligent.

There are several kinds of peeps on here...

We have the intelligent ones. These ones I would say deal with issues or arguments intelligently, albeit without taking the insults path. They are renowned for their intelligent contributions. Now that doesn't mean they don't troll when they have to, but they are mostly intelligent in their analysis.
Now we also have those who are specialists in decimating. These on their day, post to steal, to kill and to destroy (like the Devil, as described by the Bible). They are also smart and intelligent with their analysis too, but are mostly renowned for their decimating skills. At this juncture, Bigkesh comes to mind with what he did to your poor soul. May the souls of all the faithful departed, through the mercy of God rest in peace. Amen!

And we have those like yourself who rather see themselves as a hybrid. The reality is that, you are neither intelligent nor skilled in doing damage with insults and the likes. Although you try too hard, but it's just laughable how you really wanna take cue from those who have killed and buried you in the past.

Well, I would still reiterate that you shouldn't make use of terms you know nothing about or you have little knowledge of.

As per the initial argument, you see how short your memory is... When I asked you a simple textbook-like question, did you answer? What you could remember was that I talked about goals and assists. If you are suffering from amnesia, at least you should have told me so I and some other good fellaz here would know what to do to help you ameliorate the situation, but you went ahead picking what you chose in consequentially. Is it my fault you suffer from memory loss? If you were very sure of yourself as one who could stand me in any weather as you touted, why didn't you respond to my questions for you to know what would have been made of you? But rather, you resorted to insults, thinking it would help clear the way for you, or maybe score you cheap points.

Oya... Come with more cheap insults. You no dey even try at all! Go collect training for the main guys hand, cause na laugh I dey laugh here if I read your comments.

Awon ti Suarez have jah from Copa. Suarez for Balon D' Or anyone??

AdeLaNa1:
Awon ti Suarez have jah from Copa. Suarez for Balon D' Or anyone??

He think say neymar and Messi are around to create chances for him to tap in.


Barca fans be Uruguay Will win copa america, finish top scorer and get mvp


D

bykebyke how far na


Will Suarez still win ballon dor

LordEmperoris1:
He think say neymar and Messi are around to create chances for him to tap in.

I can bet you didnt watch a single match yet you are here spewing trash like a dummy,did you know Suarez was/is injured,or you think Vampire is a national team flop like your cristiano?.

LordEmperoris1:
He think say neymar and Messi are around to create chances for him to tap in.


Barca fans be Uruguay Will win copa america, finish top scorer and get mvp


D

bykebyke how far na



Will Suarez still win ballon dor

Let's see ronaldo's performance in Euro first

jstbeinhonest:



I can bet you didnt watch a single match yet you are here spewing trash like a dummy,did you know Suarez was/is injured,or you think Vampire is a national team flop like your cristiano?.

But But he will win copa golden show and also mvp

TRendlona:


Let's see ronaldo's performance in Euro first

Lets watch

LordEmperoris1:
But But he will win copa golden show and also mvp

LordEmperoris1:
He think say neymar and Messi are around to create chances for him to tap in.


Barca fans be Uruguay Will win copa america, finish top scorer and get mvp


D

bykebyke how far na


Will Suarez still win ballon dor

Dümbfück.

How many Copa matches has Suarez played?

Almost foolishly picked Arda Turan over Payet for my Euro fantasy team.

GBR1:

Alves was above average when defending. Brazil's preference for Maicon doesn't change that. I think you are underrating Maicon who had excellent performances for Inter during that period (2007-2010). Regardless i think the Brazilian team selection is a very poor metric to rate Alves low in defending because in recent times the selection has been more or less a joke. Dunga is a lunatic and makes some very ridiculous choices. Decisions like Fred as CF, or freezing Silva out of the team are very questionable etc. That's why this assertion of yours is quite negligible in this debate as a good premise. Now if R.Carlos who actually was quite poor at defending at all levels(club/country) could earn so many caps because of his attacking abilities, what does that tell you about Alves? In fact i believe this misconception of Alves being a poor defender is linked with Carlos experiences as a defender.

If you're still in doubt check out Alves defending stats in the last few years(when he's declined actually), and even compare it to Lahm; you'd find surprises there.

Even if we both agree that Alves is an above average defender, He still isn't what I would class a good defender. Barca almost total domination of the ball made him look like a much better defender than He actually was. As an avid follower of Serie A, i'd be the last person to underrate Maicon. From 2008-2010,He was quite possibly the best RB in world football(He was extraordinary during Inter's treble winning campaign). Having said all that, His decline was hard and fast and still Alves couldn't dislodge him.

Felipao should take the blame for persisting with Fred not Dunga whose striker of choice was Fabiano. Also Carlos amassing that number of caps had all to do with Brazil having no better option at the position during that period. Not forgetting that He was the the starting Left Wingback for the Biggest club in the world for well over a decade. Once more let me state this, I have never once called Alves a poor defender. I said that He was an average defender.

I'll have a good look at both player's defensive stats in a moment. I'll be happy to be proven wrong.

dmcdad:

I always laugh whenever I read your posts. You know why? After spending much time racking your brains out in responding to my posts, you end up feeling fly about yourself.

Bruv... As per the correction, I didn't even highlight it to say you abbreviated it. You used it in the wrong instance bruv. Just take simple correction and let's move on with it. Stop forming what you are not. You are not even close to the peeps one would wanna reckon with as intelligent.

There are several kinds of peeps on here...

We have the intelligent ones. These ones I would say deal with issues or arguments intelligently, albeit without taking the insults path. They are renowned for their intelligent contributions. Now that doesn't mean they don't troll when they have to, but they are mostly intelligent in their analysis.
Now we also have those who are specialists in decimating. These on their day, post to steal, to kill and to destroy (like the Devil, as described by the Bible). They are also smart and intelligent with their analysis too, but are mostly renowned for their decimating skills. At this juncture, Bigkesh comes to mind with what he did to your poor soul. May the souls of all the faithful departed, through the mercy of God rest in peace. Amen!

And we have those like yourself who rather see themselves as a hybrid. The reality is that, you are neither intelligent nor skilled in doing damage with insults and the likes. Although you try too hard, but it's just laughable how you really wanna take cue from those who have killed and buried you in the past.

Well, I would still reiterate that you shouldn't make use of terms you know nothing about or you have little knowledge of.

As per the initial argument, you see how short your memory is... When I asked you a simple textbook-like question, did you answer? What you could remember was that I talked about goals and assists. If you are suffering from amnesia, at least you should have told me so I and some other good fellaz here would know what to do to help you ameliorate the situation, but you went ahead picking what you chose in consequentially. Is it my fault you suffer from memory loss? If you were very sure of yourself as one who could stand me in any weather as you touted, why didn't you respond to my questions for you to know what would have been made of you? But rather, you resorted to insults, thinking it would help clear the way for you, or maybe score you cheap points.

Oya... Come with more cheap insults. You no dey even try at all! Go collect training for the main guys hand, cause na laugh I dey laugh here if I read your comments.

Rack my brain for a halfwit like you? I don't need more than 5 minutes to compose your dirge.

You are an unrepentant eediot. Instead of you to admit your goof you are trying to weasel your way out of it. What a vajayjay. Who are you correcting? Who equipped you with those tools? Won ma ti teba were fun eleyi sha.

"Stop using something you know little knowledge about"

Is this the kind of simpleton that wants to correct someone? Look at this Alaba rago urchin trying to form intellectual. Ko ni ragba fun e

Save your boring and ret@rded narrative for someone who cares. Killed and buried? Even the people you are advocating for cannot claim such so stop famzing you ignorant poof.

You started throwing the ad hominems, you are denying and now claiming you are correcting me. Your lies can resurrect the dead, I am convinced you lie for a living.

It was an irrelevant question. What do goals and assists have to do with evaluating fullbacks? Who has more goals and assists between Maldini and Fernando Hierro? Anyway I have come to expect such stewpid questions from an Up Barka, Up Messi charlatan like you.

Stand you? What a skrep. I have taken on brighter minds and dispatched them without a stain on my shirt

Shameless liar. Show one instance where I resorted to insults before you did. You lie without any decorum or shame.

dmcdad:

And they someone pointed out that Alves shiits on him with club trophies you were quick to play the unintelligent card of 'he had Messi, Iniesta, Xavi et al ahead of him'. That's really shallow thinking. And to think you always argue footie, hence one would expect better from you makes it all the more crest-fallen.

Na wa oooooooo.

dmcdad:

At this juncture there is no point talking further with you. You have absolutely nothing to offer. Infact, you have succeeded in proving the likes of AdeLaNa1, bigkesh et al to be right.

Thanks for your time.

Phoool. Telling more lies than O.J Simpson on Trial

Krasid:

chai ..

Na short man Messi. Since suarez don fff, de go say now messi will copa golden boot, mvp and even copa ceremonial cup