blackjack21:

if you check the history of religion you will find some outright insane, barbaric and repugnant practice- like human sacrifice etc.

and you will also find some religion against it.
in fact, most religion are hostile to each other because they are so different in beliefs and practice.

If it'll please you to hear from the horse' mouth: The saying (no religion is better than another is a engineered quote by free thinkers. meaning- "all religion are ultimately wrong."

So, saying that no religion is better than another by a religious person in true sense will be assumed as saying "All religion serve on god and discouraged evil.

which is very, very wrong.


"A peace concocted from lies and hypocrisy is the most delusional kind of peace.

" truth is the ultimate religion."

You have good thinking sir. I like that. I also like your last quote 'Truth is the ultimate religion'

But sir, no one is saying religious people should say no religion is better than another. Some religions might consider others very barbaric which is normal based on practices.... But then, all religions claim all others are the wrong religions. That's the genesis of the problem. They consider each religion even if they have similar and Non babaric practices to be inferior and untrue.

GerogeI:
Why all these unnecessary defence? It shows intolerance and conservatism, which is the point OP is trying to make.

I too served in Kano about 8 years ago!
Yes, male-female relationship is highly controlled in Kano. As a foreigner you are safer when you understand how the local rules work.

I remember back in BUK, some male students made it a point of duty to always monitor me and my female Hausa corper friend, cause of them I always kept my office door open as I had nothing to hide. However, back at my Lodge an old neighbour almost married off a teenage girl to me cause, he complains everytime am coming back "Aquai Mata". He was really worried that I had no woman. Contrast that.

Further - I remember several times my female colleagues would run back to the lodge because a group of kids were throwing stones at them. We sent our Hausa colleagues to find out why, and it was apparently due to their dressing


I was once stuck in front of a mosque on a Friday, while walking home with my female Hausa friend(no taxi or bus), the police in front of the mosque almost went berserk on us for walking close to each other while in front of the mosque at prayer time, claiming we could cause a mob action. Had to give the chick 50m or so.

I spent at least 3 emergency nights at military Baracks whenever we heard something happened in town. Our Lodge was not in Sarbon Gari, but rather near Kofa Gardon Kaya.

Saying or Claiming Kano is just like Abuja or Lagos is only going to be a disservice to both the natives, and the visitors, cause the later would assume and end up offending the former.

I enjoyed my stay in Kano, explored and made some of my best friends while there! I won't hesitate to visit again, but that is ultimately because I got to understand the societal fabrics and values of the people. The OP did not set out to paint an evil picture of Kano, but the kind of attack he is getting is forcing him into a defensive stance that is now sounding defiant and tending towards a hack job. Totally unnecessary.

If you are a Kano native, instead of these attacks, why not describe the relevant value system and help others to understand. Kano does not have to be like Lagos, or Abuja, it has its own distinct flavour. And we will all do well to preserve it as well as eliminate the misunderstandings by explaining it to visitors.

men bro...I don't know who you are but reading ur post is like cold water to a soul in the desert. You're so matured and straight to the point. I also served in Kano too. Gwarzo road. Kano is really a wonderful place. I got a different and unknown point of view from the Muslims and north in Nigeria. Most of my best friends till today are Muslims and from the north. Regardless of what people say, I'll forever have a high sense of respect for the north.

IT GRIEVES ME THAT A WONDERFUL AND EDUCATIVE THREAD HAS BEEN HIJACKED AND DIVERTED BECOS OF RELIGIOUS SENTIMENTS. OP IGNORE ALL IRRELEVANT POSTS AND QUOTES. FOCUS ON THE REAL REASON YOU OPENED THIS THREAD. George1 nice one

Abokii8:
Na me be idiot right? Anyway i will trace you up to the hole you are hiding, you must repeat that once again.

I've Been Following This thread but don't wanna comment as so many ppl have already corrected the op, but pls this ur statement no follow at all. I am born and brought up in kano so kano is home to me. I'm in kano presently... but would not cease to say d truth that it's ppl like u that might probably be giving d op d impression he have abt kano. U should hv jxt agree or disagree with him, not threaten him. Be a good ambassador of what ever u represent. I rep Kano

Mr Op, trust me. You're safe. Relax. Nobody will trace you (even though you’ve given out your phone number and location here ). I'm from Kano and I am sure if you do right, you'll enjoy the place.

About illiteracy, most of the kids at my ppa in Imo state where I served, didn't understand English language. It doesn't give me any reason to generalize and call all Imo indigenes illiterates. That would be a big, fat lie .

Kano- like any other state, has a distinct culture.
Understand it and you won't have no complaints.
Cheers.

rooqee120:
I've Been Following This thread but don't wanna comment as so many ppl have already corrected the op, but pls this ur statement no follow at all. I am born and brought up in kano so kano is home to me. I'm in kano presently... but would not cease to say d truth that it's ppl like u that might probably be giving d op d impression he have abt kano. U should hv jxt agree or disagree with him, not threaten him. Be a good ambassador of what ever u represent. I rep Kano

Thank you sister, it's nice to see people like you.

Usernamesucks:
Mr Op, trust me. You're safe. Relax. Nobody will trace you (even though you’ve given out your phone number and location here ). I'm from Kano and I am sure if you do right, you'll enjoy the place.

About illiteracy, most of the kids at my ppa in Imo state where I served, didn't understand English language. It doesn't give me any reason to generalize and call all Imo indigenes illiterates. That would be a big, fat lie .

Kano- like any other state, has a distinct culture.
Understand it and you won't have no complaints.
Cheers.

Thank you sir.

OP, u try well well.. even me Wey neva use 10months in kano I no say kano make sense.

Common Naibawa here Asha.wo house dey and u can smoke Ciga anywhere you want, even while walking on the street no one is gonna query you.

Now I really feel like visiting Kano.. Still keeping my finger crossed and taking notes of the sites mentioned

roqrules04:
OP, u try well well.. even me Wey neva use 10months in kano I no say kano make sense.

Common Naibawa here Asha.wo house dey and u can smoke Ciga anywhere you want, even while walking on the street no one is gonna query you.

Na'ibawa.. Mehn I miss home Kano, here we come.

mrphysics:
When I came to my PPA, as soon as I was accepted, I started looking for the does and don'ts of this place. TRUTH be told, they are many things to avoid here. Many things need to be avoided here in Kano. The way you talk, dress, how you eat, the way you relate with people. Here I have many friends, many friends who are from Kano, though they are nice but that religious issue will keep resurfacing.

When I met some friends here, they are students of some higher institutions here, I helped them solve some of their past questions, Infact, I was invited to their school to teach them, I went and delivered my service to humanity, I wasn't given even water to wash my hand. But one thing I noticed is that no matter how close you are to them, as soon as they notice you are not a Muslim then a line have been drawn.

I was shocked when after teaching one of my friend, he spent about 35 minutes telling me about Islam and why I need to join Islam. I had no option than to listen to him. The boldness he had was encouraging. Also my Hausa friend told me that the main criteria to marry her is that I join Islam, Infact she went to the extent of telling me who to meet to get converted. The boldness and authority they use in telling you about their faith is shocking though commendable.

I was often times told by my students that Religion is the first and foremost in whatever they do. I will be lecturing and I will be told that it's time for Islamiyya. I have had to stop lecture to wait for my students to go and pray. Infact I had a fixed lecture, when I came for the lecture, my students told me that its time for prayer and that THEY MUST go. I dare not prevent them seeing that religion is first because I can't imagine such happen in the west, south or east. Immediately after the afternoon prayer, I taught for about 1hr and I was told that it's time for islamiyya and that was how the lecture ended.

mrphysics:


Shut up, tell me how fun your people are. Do you know when a place is said to be fun??

Fun is anything that gives pleasure and makes one happy.
Different things makes different people happy.
so, Kano is no fun for you doesn't mean kano is no fun.

A Squirrel may not have fun flying just like a bird won't find fun in a hole.

Chommieblaq:


Kaduna beat Kano hands down, yes kaduna is like Enugu, while Kano is like onitsha.

Both as home to me, buh I love kaduna more, although Kano has more business opportunities n in flow of money!

Really? Kano and Onitsha in the same breath? You're a joke!

lacasera14:
You guys should have allowed op to finish his epistle na, now you've chased him out of his own thread. But I know one thing for sure no matter all the clubs and fun places you guys mentioned, the social life of the entire north put together cannot be compared to half of the South's social life. next time pls let him finish before objecting really wanted to know how he fared with the Hausa chick now you've ruined it .

You're really a tw.at for making that debased statement!!!

Unless if you mean prostitution, there aren't up to 3 cities in the South that would compare favourably to Jos fun wise.

Go get some education before you come spewing skunk you couldn't push down your chest!

malton:


Really? Kano and Onitsha in the same breath? You're a joke!

Lol am I joke?
Well go back to school n learn your figure of speech, maybe then u will understand what am trying to pass!

Chommieblaq:



Lol am I joke?
Well go back to school n learn your figure of speech, maybe then u will understand what am trying to pass!

I understand very well the point you were trying to pass across. Regardless, you don't liken Kano to Onitsha in any way. They are worlds apart. That won't fly. Not Onitsha, nope.

GerogeI:
Why all these unnecessary defence? It shows intolerance and conservatism, which is the point OP is trying to make.

I too served in Kano about 8 years ago!
Yes, male-female relationship is highly controlled in Kano. As a foreigner you are safer when you understand how the local rules work.

I remember back in BUK, some male students made it a point of duty to always monitor me and my female Hausa corper friend, cause of them I always kept my office door open as I had nothing to hide. However, back at my Lodge an old neighbour almost married off a teenage girl to me cause, he complains everytime am coming back "Aquai Mata". He was really worried that I had no woman. Contrast that.

Further - I remember several times my female colleagues would run back to the lodge because a group of kids were throwing stones at them. We sent our Hausa colleagues to find out why, and it was apparently due to their dressing

I was once stuck in front of a mosque on a Friday, while walking home with my female Hausa friend(no taxi or bus), the police in front of the mosque almost went berserk on us for walking close to each other while in front of the mosque at prayer time, claiming we could cause a mob action. Had to give the chick 50m or so.

I spent at least 3 emergency nights at military Baracks whenever we heard something happened in town. Our Lodge was not in Sarbon Gari, but rather near Kofa Gardon Kaya.

Saying or Claiming Kano is just like Abuja or Lagos is only going to be a disservice to both the natives, and the visitors, cause the later would assume and end up offending the former.

I enjoyed my stay in Kano, explored and made some of my best friends while there! I won't hesitate to visit again, but that is ultimately because I got to understand the societal fabrics and values of the people. The OP did not set out to paint an evil picture of Kano, but the kind of attack he is getting is forcing him into a defensive stance that is now sounding defiant and tending towards a hack job. Totally unnecessary.

If you are a Kano native, instead of these attacks, why not describe the relevant value system and help others to understand. Kano does not have to be like Lagos, or Abuja, it has its own distinct flavour. And we will all do well to preserve it as well as eliminate the misunderstandings by explaining it to visitors.

U just said it all, I live in Kano all Ma life.
When I was doing Ma IT at water board , see I understand their, culture n been that am going to outside sabon gari,I will dress conservatively n cover Ma head, still it doesn't stop children from jeering, mocking n sometimes throwing stones me,n sometimes d adult won't caution them if they pass by n see them in such act, n sometimes they might be cautioned, buh I will just keep quiet n ignore them.



Like I said earlier Kano is cheap fun, buh it restricted to certain area ( these areas, one dresses anyhow, booze, club n stuffs) buh in certain area too u won't find that and am sure the op us saying base on where he's staying.


It's only a joker that will compare Kano to Lagos or Abuja,even jos

malton:


I understand very well the point you were trying to pass across. Regardless, you don't liken Kano to Onitsha in any way. They are worlds apart. That won't fly. Not Onitsha, nope.

What point do u understand!

In terms of business Kano is more like onitsha n nnewi sef, buh kaduna don't have much business activities going around there.

With which state would u have me compare Kano to?

malton:


You're really a tw.at for making that debased statement!!!

Unless if you mean prostitution, there aren't up to 3 cities in the South that would compare favourably to Jos fun wise.

Go get some education before you come spewing skunk you couldn't push down your chest!

my friend gerrout with your gibberish, fun in the south is glaring, visible to blind and audible to the deaf. stop exposing your ignorance and sincere stupidity in public forums like this you represent your people stop disgracing them

mrphysics:


The school looks like a nursery school. Just check every evening apart drlm Saturday and Sundays, I will be there. Hope they pay you? and gave you accommodation??

yea dey pay 5k per month but no accommodation

Y'all ruined this thread including the OP.

mehn the north is rilli fuc.ked up


full of religious extremists running loose up nd down!



some of them exhibited traces of it already on this thread

I think the OP simply expressed the culture shock he experienced.

Picture someone who comes from a society where man and woman can hold hands freely in public; And laugh out loud in a conversation or even cuddle together in a taxi while on their way to enjoy a drink of beer in an open terrace with people going about their business unfazed.

Suddenly they have to sit apart in a cab and maintain a safe distance from one another.

Change their wardrobes entirely

Deny themselves essential parts of their everyday lives like having a cold beer while sitting out in other to conform to a system.

I don't know but to say the plain truth that will be very distressing.

I'm just watching everybody on this thread ranging from the Op to the uninformed and illinformed.

Let me clear the air à little.

There are atoms of truth in everything the Op has said eventhough he overblew somethings out of proportion.

Starting with the 5 houses one mosque, there's no lie in that except you don't really understand what he means by a mosque. Almost every house (especially those of the rich) has a mosque or a praying ground as many would rather put it.

On the issue of smoking, Mr Op you got that wrong. I don't think there's any state in the country today that has the high rate of smokers like Kano. But that can still be contested but truly the rate of public smoking has reduced drastically.

On intolerance, technically speaking it exists but mostly with the touts and those without control. I'll rather not use the word illiterates cos some literate ones still behave same. On stoning females cos of their dressing, yes it does exist but not everywhere and it's mostly from the almajiris. One thing u should know is that the Hausa man is always prompted to reacting violently to things that conttavenes his religious beliefs so when he sees these ladies with SOME sensitive parts of their body exposed (ask any Muslim what I mean by sensitive) the only way they tend to react to the arousement you've caused them is to act violently using religious reasons as excuse. But I must stress that this isn't so in all places in the state. But Kano people no dey use religion matter play o! An enlightened person may play it down but a tout or yandaba will always go extreme.

On d Islamiya issue, yes they attend that but it usually doesn't interfere with their Western education except if it's evening classes you take. But on the part of students telling you it's time for prayers during lectures, yes that's true. They do that very well. But u don't finish Islamiya before attending primary school, it's not so.

On the part of flexing or social life, it depends on how far you want to go cos there are places for different kind of flexing in Kano, sabongari just happens to be the headquarters.

Finally, for now sha, on the part of females not wanting to establish body contact with you in a keke, that's true but one thing is they won't even board same keke with you in the first place. But guy, those who say to kpansh Hausa babes is impossible, believe me they haven't tried or they lack what those girls want. I'm speaking from experience but as a Christian to marry a HAUSA Muslim girl? That's a big NO.

I'm not supporting any party here, I'm just here to make common sense and clear the air.

I'll stop here for now. Op continue but after you give me my two cents.

aminu150:

You are funny. I can easily trace u if I want. U reside around kofar famfo close to FCE Kano and u do your PPA in Kano poly. Have an open mind and respect culture diversity, that way you will enjoy Kano. All those asking you to join Islam are doing it because they feel you are good mannered, honest,intelligeno ,generous, in short they just love you and want you to be part of them. Simple.

How can he even think of joining you guys, when are you threatening already. The young man just sharing his experiences and you people are here blacking him. Please tell me how can any1 in his right sense want to come over to the north? Sorry. Case.

The truth dey say is bitter n it will nva lose its bitter taste. Truth is, serving in any northern states is unhealthy, dey can take life outta someone without thoughts. D devil reside there if una like attack me. May we nva see d devil in our lives.

korel9:
I'm just watching everybody on this thread ranging from the Op to the uninformed and illinformed.

Let me clear the air à little.

There are atoms of truth in everything the Op has said eventhough he overblew somethings out of proportion.

Starting with the 5 houses one mosque, there's no lie in that except you don't really understand what he means by a mosque. Almost every house (especially those of the rich) has a mosque or a praying ground as many would rather put it.

On the issue of smoking, Mr Op you got that wrong. I don't think there's any state in the country today that has the high rate of smokers like Kano. But that can still be contested but truly the rate of public smoking has reduced drastically.

On intolerance, technically speaking it exists but mostly with the touts and those without control. I'll rather not use the word illiterates cos some literate ones still behave same. On stoning females cos of their dressing, yes it does exist but not everywhere and it's mostly from the almajiris. One thing u should know is that the Hausa man is always prompted to reacting violently to things that conttavenes his religious beliefs so when he sees these ladies with SOME sensitive parts of their body exposed (ask any Muslim what I mean by sensitive) the only way they tend to react to the arousement you've caused them is to act violently using religious reasons as excuse. But I must stress that this isn't so in all places in the state. But Kano people no dey use religion matter play o! An enlightened person may play it down but a tout or yandaba will always go extreme.

On d Islamiya issue, yes they attend that but it usually doesn't interfere with their Western education except if it's evening classes you take. But on the part of students telling you it's time for prayers during lectures, yes that's true. They do that very well. But u don't finish Islamiya before attending primary school, it's not so.

On the part of flexing or social life, it depends on how far you want to go cos there are places for different kind of flexing in Kano, sabongari just happens to be the headquarters.

Finally, for now sha, on the part of females not wanting to establish body contact with you in a keke, that's true but one thing is they won't even board same keke with you in the first place. But guy, those who say to kpansh Hausa babes is impossible, believe me they haven't tried or they lack what those girls want. I'm speaking from experience but as a Christian to marry a HAUSA Muslim girl? That's a big NO.

I'm not supporting any party here, I'm just here to make common sense and clear the air.

I'll stop here for now. Op continue but after you give me my two cents.

Lol brother, thank you so much. do u stay in Kano? I love your matured reasoning.

eeeeeee:
I think the OP simply expressed the culture shock he experienced.

Picture someone who comes from a society where man and woman can hold hands freely in public; And laugh out loud in a conversation or even cuddle together in a taxi while on their way to enjoy a drink of beer in an open terrace with people going about their business unfazed.

Suddenly they have to sit apart in a cab and maintain a safe distance from one another.

Change their wardrobes entirely

Deny themselves essential parts of their everyday lives like having a cold beer while sitting out in other to conform to a system.

I don't know but to say the plain truth that will be very distressing.

Exactly. I am yet to recover from the culture shock. At first I think I can ignore it but you dare not try it. I just have to live with it.

I will update the thread today.

Thanks once again.

.

mrphysics:


Lol brother, thank you so much. do u stay in Kano? I love your matured reasoning.

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