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Re: Science & The Bible Give Clues About The Location Of Heaven. by kumulus(m): 11:16am On Jun 28, 2016
blueAgent:



I don't get you? are you saying Heaven is a secret place?


YES, it is the most secret place known to man. In the sense that you don't know what happens in my heaven, neither do I know yours.
Re: Science & The Bible Give Clues About The Location Of Heaven. by oglalasioux(m): 11:17am On Jun 28, 2016
Proffdada:
nice
some stupid atheists will find it difficult to understand

My friend, space has no up or down or north or south or east or west. Before you call atheists stupid please where is north? We on earth divided the skys according to our position at any given time and your south can be an Australian's north at this time. So please let us know the basis of your measurement of heaven?

Or are you of the opinion that the Jehovah's witnesses are right to say that God's throne is located near the center of the milky way galaxy?

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Re: Science & The Bible Give Clues About The Location Of Heaven. by kumulus(m): 11:49am On Jun 28, 2016
So many things are hard to understand for certain reasons. Society has used some of its tools to alter the mind of so many that only very few are left that can comprehend. Even the bible made it known to us that "Bring up a child in the way he should go, when he grows he will never depart from it"...... I'm really grateful to the Almighty for being who I am. Early in life I was able to discern things and didn't have to be taught what to know or do.

....not to bore anyone, just know these;
* There's a God
* He's a Living God
* We are His image
* He was, is and will be till the end of days
* He is SO close to us
* He works ways that are not physically visible to us
* He's the ɒmni

As for where He is (Heaven)..... Only those with understanding will see the answer in those lines above.

- Lloyd
Re: Science & The Bible Give Clues About The Location Of Heaven. by Ranchhoddas: 12:26pm On Jun 28, 2016
blueAgent:



Clown. If God can make Man to talk ,i don't see why it is impossible for the snake in the gardern of Eden to be able to talk.
with God all things are possible.
So God made the snake to talk and tempt Eve. I see...

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Re: Science & The Bible Give Clues About The Location Of Heaven. by Proffdada: 1:12pm On Jun 28, 2016
oglalasioux:


My friend, space has no up or down or north or south or east or west. Before you call atheists stupid please where is north? We on earth divided the skys according to our position at any given time and your south can be an Australian's north at this time. So please let us know the basis of your measurement of heaven?

Or are you of the opinion that the Jehovah's witnesses are right to say that God's throne is located near the center of the milky way galaxy?
firstly north is a reference based on the observer's perspective and from astronomers POV there's north in the universe where there's a large void of galaxy clusters.
Huge Hole Found in the Universe
http://www.space.com/4271-huge-hole-universe.html

secondly with the vastness and multi dimensional nature of the universe the possibility of human existence won't be this long if we weren't created by an higher intelligence. we would've have disappeared by accident .
thirdly

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AJioWKPlBIw

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Re: Science & The Bible Give Clues About The Location Of Heaven. by UyiIredia(m): 1:34pm On Jun 28, 2016
No one knows the location of heaven and seriously there are more useful things to worry about than that.
Re: Science & The Bible Give Clues About The Location Of Heaven. by Nobody: 1:35pm On Jun 28, 2016
Hahaahahhahahahahahahahahaahhahahaahahahahahha....... God this is even more riddiculous than Tommen's death gringrin
Re: Science & The Bible Give Clues About The Location Of Heaven. by oglalasioux(m): 2:50pm On Jun 28, 2016
Proffdada:
firstly north is a reference based on the observer's perspective and from astronomers POV there's north in the universe where there's a large void of galaxy clusters.
Huge Hole Found in the Universe
http://www.space.com/4271-huge-hole-universe.html

secondly with the vastness and multi dimensional nature of the universe the possibility of human existence won't be this long if we weren't created by an higher intelligence. we would've have disappeared by accident .
thirdly

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AJioWKPlBIw

Do you know about string field theory? There are 10 followed by 500 zeros possibilities of the dimensions of the universe. How can you possibly point out north? Nobody is saying our existence is not as a result of a higher intelligence. But when you claim it's your christian god and even point out your so called heaven,then I tell you the universe is too vast for him.
Re: Science & The Bible Give Clues About The Location Of Heaven. by blueAgent(m): 8:04pm On Jun 28, 2016
Ranchhoddas:
So God made the snake to talk and tempt Eve. I see...


You can spin the story, to anyway your small IQ brain can carry.
Re: Science & The Bible Give Clues About The Location Of Heaven. by blueAgent(m): 8:09pm On Jun 28, 2016
kumulus:



YES, it is the most secret place known to man. In the sense that you don't know what happens in my heaven, neither do I know yours.



You must have been reading Journals as Bible.
Bible reference of Heaven as a secret place is an Idiom. not really that Heaven is a secret place. if it is secret place ,why does the Bible keep making mention ,of its possible location relative the Earth?
Re: Science & The Bible Give Clues About The Location Of Heaven. by blueAgent(m): 8:23pm On Jun 28, 2016
johnydon22:


hahahahaha i never knew i was this ignorant.

Wow i am indeed very ignorant, a pupil hoping to learn from you brother... So after all said and done.

where is the north of the universe?

Keep demonstrating your ingnorances.
Re: Science & The Bible Give Clues About The Location Of Heaven. by Ranchhoddas: 8:28pm On Jun 28, 2016
blueAgent:



You can spin the story, to anyway your small IQ brain can carry.
Your IQ is really high.
Re: Science & The Bible Give Clues About The Location Of Heaven. by blueAgent(m): 8:28pm On Jun 28, 2016
TrajansKong:


OK.

So you don't know.

You only believe.


The same way you believed the bigbang theory without seeing it. despite it contractdicting laws of Science and thermodyanmics.
Re: Science & The Bible Give Clues About The Location Of Heaven. by blueAgent(m): 8:29pm On Jun 28, 2016
cloudgoddess:
I can't decide whether to laugh or just be sad, has Nigerias education really become this poor undecided

Compass directions are arbitrary human labels determined by earth's magnetic field to help us navigate our planet. There is no north, south, east, and west in outer space.


You know nothing about Science, too bad.

http://science.time.com/2013/09/07/theres-no-up-or-down-in-space-not-so-fast/
Re: Science & The Bible Give Clues About The Location Of Heaven. by blueAgent(m): 8:41pm On Jun 28, 2016
oglalasioux:


My friend, space has no up or down or north or south or east or west. Before you call atheists stupid please where is north? We on earth divided the skys according to our position at any given time and your south can be an Australian's north at this time. So please let us know the basis of your measurement of heaven?

Or are you of the opinion that the Jehovah's witnesses are right to say that God's throne is located near the center of the milky way galaxy?

No. but were ever the North of the Universe is, God knows.

Secondly Scientist are yet to see the entire Universe. what we see through telescope is called the observable Universe. it is still unclear wheather the Universe is Finite or infinite,its shape and Dimensions are still unknown.

But trust God . God knows were exact size and dimensions of the Universe.

This are just my own thoughts
We Humans stand upright. North can be attributed as any place above our point of reference from a vertical point of view.Same could be Applied to Space .using the planery system as the reference point.

Moreever research is revealing that the Universe could have North South point.

http://science.time.com/2013/09/07/theres-no-up-or-down-in-space-not-so-fast/
Re: Science & The Bible Give Clues About The Location Of Heaven. by blueAgent(m): 8:41pm On Jun 28, 2016
Ranchhoddas:
Your IQ is really high.
Re: Science & The Bible Give Clues About The Location Of Heaven. by blueAgent(m): 8:42pm On Jun 28, 2016
Ranchhoddas:
Your IQ is really high.

I will take that as a compliment
Re: Science & The Bible Give Clues About The Location Of Heaven. by blueAgent(m): 8:43pm On Jun 28, 2016
UyiIredia:
No one knows the location of heaven and seriously there are more useful things to worry about than that.


I thought Science is about curosity?
Re: Science & The Bible Give Clues About The Location Of Heaven. by blueAgent(m): 8:44pm On Jun 28, 2016
Proffdada:
firstly north is a reference based on the observer's perspective and from astronomers POV there's north in the universe where there's a large void of galaxy clusters.
Huge Hole Found in the Universe
http://www.space.com/4271-huge-hole-universe.html

secondly with the vastness and multi dimensional nature of the universe the possibility of human existence won't be this long if we weren't created by an higher intelligence. we would've have disappeared by accident .
thirdly

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AJioWKPlBIw


True.
Re: Science & The Bible Give Clues About The Location Of Heaven. by Nobody: 8:50pm On Jun 28, 2016
TrajansKong:


You are right.

I don't understand.

Please help me.

Where exactly, in astronomical terms, is 'the north of our universe'??

Genuine question.

lmao
Re: Science & The Bible Give Clues About The Location Of Heaven. by kumulus(m): 8:52pm On Jun 28, 2016
blueAgent:




You must have been reading Journals as Bible.
Bible reference of Heaven as a secret place is an Idiom. not really that Heaven is a secret place. if it is secret place ,why does the Bible keep making mention ,of its possible location relative the Earth?


Your opinion...you've got every right to air what you think. If you know the things I know (but you can't tho.....my thoughts aren't your thoughts nor my way your way).

Even if I tell you so openly, you will have your doubts

-Lloyd
Re: Science & The Bible Give Clues About The Location Of Heaven. by Nobody: 9:06pm On Jun 28, 2016
Proffdada:
firstly north is a reference based on the observer's perspective and from astronomers POV there's north in the universe where there's a large void of galaxy clusters.
Huge Hole Found in the Universe
http://www.space.com/4271-huge-hole-universe.html

secondly with the vastness and multi dimensional nature of the universe the possibility of human existence won't be this long if we weren't created by an higher intelligence. we would've have disappeared by accident .
thirdly

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AJioWKPlBIw
1. Entangled quantum particles can communicate across two ends of the universe, therefore making them eternal... WAIT! But quantum particles exist only in our universe making them not eternal, by your definition. You can't prove anything eternal, because any observable proof is bound by the laws of our universe, already disproving this entire video.
2. Yes, everything we can see in the universe is made of stars. Evertything VISIBLE. I really don't know why you would choose this as an example, since stars are made of matter smaller than themselves. But, even when you go down to the deepest level, you're divided by dark energy, dark matter, and regular matter. So, there is nothing that is found everywhere, because there is always something different instead.
3. Laser photons can change DNA- so what? Can they defy the laws of physics and suddenly be destroyed, or travel faster than light? No they can't, so they're not all-powerful. And no, there is no necessity for energy to be timeless. Before the universe existed, there WAS no time, which means there was no "before" the universe existed in the first place. Yes, it's difficult to wrap your mind around, but that doesn't make your point any more valid.
4. I'll give you this one, for free. I don't feel like researching Vogelschang's findings, but I'lm sure I could muster up a rebuttal with relative ease, given the strength of the previous arguments.
I respect this argument for being unique, at least. It doesn't follow the same pattern of illogical thinking that most creationists do, which made it fun to refute

not my work. but interesting reply. I'd like to see what you have to say to this. At least you're not just throwing bibles around

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Re: Science & The Bible Give Clues About The Location Of Heaven. by blueAgent(m): 9:24pm On Jun 28, 2016
kumulus:



Your opinion...you've got every right to air what you think. If you know the things I know (but you can't tho.....my thoughts aren't your thoughts nor my way your way).

Even if I tell you so openly, you will have your doubts

-Lloyd


What things do you know? that Heaven has personal location? any opinion of yours that contracdict the Bible is false.
Re: Science & The Bible Give Clues About The Location Of Heaven. by oglalasioux(m): 9:43pm On Jun 28, 2016
blueAgent:


No. but were ever the North of the Universe is, God knows.

Secondly Scientist are yet to see the entire Universe. what we see through telescope is called the observable Universe. it is still unclear wheather the Universe is Finite or infinite,its shape and Dimensions are still unknown.

But trust God . God knows were exact size and dimensions of the Universe.

This are just my own thoughts
We Humans stand upright. North can be attributed as any place above our point of reference from a vertical point of view.Same could be Applied to Space .using the planery system as the reference point.

Moreever research is revealing that the Universe could have North South point.

http://science.time.com/2013/09/07/theres-no-up-or-down-in-space-not-so-fast/



I read the article on the link you provided and it's obvious you didn't understand a thing there. Moreover, there's nothing in the article to suggest that the heaven your religion preach exist not to talk of it being in the north of anywhere.

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Re: Science & The Bible Give Clues About The Location Of Heaven. by TrajansKong: 10:41pm On Jun 28, 2016
blueAgent:



The same way you believed the bigbang theory without seeing it. despite it contractdicting laws of Science and thermodyanmics.
No.

I don't believe in the Big Bang. As you noted, it is a theory. A very sound theory consistently supported by extensive new evidence and experimentation, but a theory nonetheless. Another stronger idea could replace ot incorporate it. That's how science works.

I don't need to believe in it. I'm happy to accept we don't know things, which is why your insistence on talking snakes and donkeys and 600 year olds in a boat with 15 million life forms baffles and depresses me.

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Re: Science & The Bible Give Clues About The Location Of Heaven. by Proffdada: 12:25am On Jun 29, 2016
oglalasioux:


Do you know about string field theory? There are 10 followed by 500 zeros possibilities of the dimensions of the universe. How can you possibly point out north? Nobody is saying our existence is not as a result of a higher intelligence. But when you claim it's your christian god and even point out your so called heaven,then I tell you the universe is too vast for him.
when you don't know God , you limit His ability

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Re: Science & The Bible Give Clues About The Location Of Heaven. by ifenes(m): 12:50am On Jun 29, 2016
Proffdada:
when you don't know God , you limit His ability

what is god?

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Re: Science & The Bible Give Clues About The Location Of Heaven. by ifenes(m): 12:55am On Jun 29, 2016
Star system Sirius comes to mind. Christian have no clue at all. Star System Sirius,the home planet of the Anunaki is what the OP has no clue of.

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Re: Science & The Bible Give Clues About The Location Of Heaven. by kumulus(m): 3:56am On Jun 29, 2016
blueAgent:



What things do you know? that Heaven has personal location? any opinion of yours that contracdict the Bible is false.

Okay...the bible whether it has seemingly contradictory stories or not is one of the greatest piece of art known to mankind.

For there's NOTHING I have, EXCEPT that which is given me.

"Seek ye first the kingdom of God and every other things shall be added to thee"

The bible explains the mystery of life so openly but requires that you have the GREATER connect so you could see them.


Again I say, my thoughts are not your thoughts.

Peace! be still on my issue.

-Lloyd
Re: Science & The Bible Give Clues About The Location Of Heaven. by oglalasioux(m): 5:28am On Jun 29, 2016
Proffdada:
when you don't know God , you limit His ability

Sorry, bro, I know God and I'm very sure He's not your biblical god limited to arbitrariness and personal whims.
Re: Science & The Bible Give Clues About The Location Of Heaven. by blueAgent(m): 4:41pm On Jun 29, 2016
kumulus:


Okay...the bible whether it has seemingly contradictory stories or not is one of the greatest piece of art known to mankind.

For there's NOTHING I have, EXCEPT that which is given me.

"Seek ye first the kingdom of God and every other things shall be added to thee"

The bible explains the mystery of life so openly but requires that you have the GREATER connect so you could see them.


Again I say, my thoughts are not your thoughts.

Peace! be still on my issue.

-Lloyd


You seem confused.
Re: Science & The Bible Give Clues About The Location Of Heaven. by blueAgent(m): 4:44pm On Jun 29, 2016
kumulus:
So many things are hard to understand for certain reasons. Society has used some of its tools to alter the mind of so many that only very few are left that can comprehend. Even the bible made it known to us that "Bring up a child in the way he should go, when he grows he will never depart from it"...... I'm really grateful to the Almighty for being who I am. Early in life I was able to discern things and didn't have to be taught what to know or do.

....not to bore anyone, just know these;
* There's a God
* He's a Living God
* We are His image
* He was, is and will be till the end of days
* He is SO close to us
* He works ways that are not physically visible to us
* He's the ɒmni

As for where He is (Heaven)..... Only those with understanding will see the answer in those lines above.

- Lloyd


True. but you can still understand the Bible clearly when you read all the verses pertaining to a particular topic.

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