We Yorubas would give the USA land to build africom on the New republic of Benin. We would also raise $5 million to help the USA set up Africom in the New Republic of Benin.





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I know for sure that American are just trying to find a way of controlling the Niger Delta that is why they want Ibos to join their army, so that they can be used to get what they want.

They are developing their way forward to 2nd Biafra

Phemzy:

I know for sure that American are just trying to find a way of controlling the Niger Delta that is why they want Ibos to join their army, so that they can be used to get what they want.

They are developing their way forward to 2nd Biafra

how do you know this for sure?

Kobojunkie:

how do you know this for sure?

From Harry Houdini's "Book of Abracadabra". . .

@ kobojunkie reading some of your comments makes for depressing reading. why would any grown up supposedly informed person with access to information dismiss africom as "black supremacist propaganda" it shows a total lack of understanding of american foreign policy.

Cynthia Mckinney who was a US presidential nominee in last years elections campaigned specifically on this issue, she was the ONLY US presidential candidate who was not afraid to speak out against the dangers that this project would bring to africa.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sDGOMY4gNVQ

your analysis of how countries are well within their rights to act for their own selfish economic interests fails to recognise that we live in an interdependent world, and that selfish actions spawn hatred, resentment and a desire for revenge which ultimately leads to war and world wide instability.

also your argument is fundamentally flawed because the US DOES work collectivey and cooperatively when it chooses to eg: its relationship with G8 countries is based on cooperation and unity against less developed countries in order to exploit and coerce weaker nations into bending to their will or face political or economic sanctions (zimbabwe, cuba, north korea, libya (now lifted), burma, venezuela)or even military attack (iraq, panama, somalia)

can you clarify this point for me- are you justifying and defending the west's ongoing use of tyranny againsts third world countries by way of economic sanctions, war and ultimately recolonisation?

if you are then that would mean that you are also justifying other tactics used by the US like "pre emptive attacks against iraq, afghanistan and probably v soon iran - are you aware that these attacks are capable of leading us into a third world war.

lets go back a bit - please confirm whether the following also qualify as justifiable self interest activities:

the US's genocide of the native indians in america, the british genocide of the aboriginals in canada,australia, new zealand and tasmania, europe's enslavement and colonisation of african people.

finallly if the US are successul in locating AFRICOM in various countries around africa - will you be okay with them deploying the use of cluster bombs (land mines), napalm and white phosphorous on civilian populations in nigeria (as this is what they are currently using in iraq and afghanistan with terrible long term consequences- birth defects, cancer, high infant mortality rate)

cluster bombs do not explode immediately upon contact with the ground they explode only when picked up (usually by children as they are usually brightly coloured and look like toys) or disturbed by animals, if fragments from these bombs are breathed in they stay in your system for a long time causing internal bleeding until all your organs are destroyed - they have been declared illegal by the Geneva Convention but the US is as we all know not subject to international law and does as it pleases.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/iraq/2003-12-10-cluster-bomb-cover_x.htm

@CAP28

Thank you from the bottom of my heart. I cannot thatnk you enough.
i never really gave much thought to this post. Our folk in the diaspora
may never be relied upon to defend us. They have already been
compromised either by their environment or greed. Some of them have
grudges against the country. That is not to say tha, especially those on
self imposed asylum.

This is not a sweeping generalisation and I seek the forgiveness of all who
are not so inclined.

Just imagine this lady on youtube and these are the sorts encouraging guys
to join Africom for the exprience. Dem say na greedy fly dey follow dead body
enter grave.

Those who wish Nigeria bad and see joining Africam to spite us will see the light
when they are deployed only to Afghanistan. They may never see service in
Africa. They will be cannon fodder there. Maybe after service you can become
a soldier of fortune, which has no prospects here!!!!!

@Cap28, there are people like you and there are people who have their brains and are able to think outside of the BLACK IS ALL I AM box filled with CONSPIRACY THEORIES. Turns out some Ibos signed up for the program and are now enjoying a career in the US army, as well as citizenship in the US Army.  I happen to have met one, and the dude boasts each day of how he is better and more motivated than I am as a result. An old college friend of mine in Lagos, who just quit his job at diamond bank is set to fly out soon to join the army for training.

I hate to break it to you, but I prefer to continue on the path that I have known to work well for me rather than subscribing to some MUMBO JUMBO theory of how THE WORLD IS ALWAYS WATCHING ME ME ME AND OUT TO GET ME ME ME!!! That has never really worked for anyone till date.

@Kobojunkie   Tell am!! What freaks me out more is his definition of cluster bomb. I laugh i wan die

Merge, you're talking nonsense. I prefer serving Americans than serving Hausa-fulani and China.

lol there are MANY nigerians(all tribes) in the army even before africom. Africoms interest in igbos most likely stems from the fact its the largest spoken language in the South East. If any igbos or and other ND tribe wants to join kudos for you, but who do you think you will be fighting or fending off? The hausas that are so much hated by the south are safe in the north, The coward -traitor yorubas are relaxing in the West. The only people they will fighting or fending off will be those in the ND themselves(igbos,ijaw,ikwerre,etc).

so please join, your only hurting yourselves and those who you call brother. The oil will still be piped to the north, the west will still get their cut. The Elites will be enjoying the oil money while you guys kill eachother over the interest of American oil.

@sjeezy8 After basic training and AIT, (six years ago) I got my posting and the first officer i reported to was a captain. As i approached him his features were oddly familiar. When i got within range i gave my salute and lo and behold when the officer uttered "at ease" i was amazed to find out he was igbo. Can you imagine an igbo captain in the US army. And not just a mere captain. this guy was a highly trainned army engineer, the level that would make Nigerian proffs feel like secondary school boys. I told him i never thought i would meet a Nigerian talk less of an igbo man with such responsibilities and position in the US army. He said i had not seen anything yet. I later found out that there were higher ranked Nigerian soldiers there. I asked him about his opinion on matters in Nigeria and the biafra aspiration. You know what he said? "dont mind those fools who through no fault of theirs have not seen a better option and have been brainwashed through poverty to believe in someone elses agenda." My guy it is a privillege to be part of the US army. It is an opportunity to go places you ordinarily would only read about, do things you would ordinarily dream about and be whatever you want to be in life. And i mean whatever. And please poster stop misinforming people. the US army's only priority as per Nigeria in relation to recruitment is yoruba speaking people. They care less where you are from.

Conspiracies are not always based on facts but DELUSIONS cooked up by mostly minds   INCAPABLE of accepting that the world does not REVOLVE AROUND THEIR MINI circle.



Thanks for that piece @Bidemi12. By the way, I agree with the Captain and I do believe a large proportion of Nigerians in the army sort of share the same viewpoint as he does of the Nigerian situation. We have some women in the US army as well.

@kobojunki Not just in the army. Have you noticed that Nigerians in the US do not care which tribe you are from? and that the mentality is very much different. Which tells you that when you remove poverty from the equation people become normal.

sjeezy8:

lol there are MANY nigerians(all tribes) in the army even before africom. Africoms interest in igbos most likely stems from the fact its the largest spoken language in the South East. If any igbos or and other ND tribe wants to join kudos for you, but who do you think you will be fighting or fending off? The hausas that are so much hated by the south are safe in the north, The coward -traitor yorubas are relaxing in the West. The only people they will fighting or fending off will be those in the ND themselves(igbos,ijaw,ikwerre,etc).

so please join, your only hurting yourselves and those who you call brother. The oil will still be piped to the north, the west will still get their cut. The Elites will be enjoying the oil money while you guys kill eachother over the interest of American oil.

very sad, but true.
and there you have it. . . the reality of things in Nigeria.

Kobojunkie:

@Cap28, there are people like you and there are people who have their brains and are able to think outside of the BLACK IS ALL I AM box filled with CONSPIRACY THEORIES. Turns out some Ibos signed up for the program and are now enjoying a career in the US army, as well as citizenship in the US Army. I happen to have met one, and the dude boasts each day of how he is better and more motivated than I am as a result. An old college friend of mine in Lagos, who just quit his job at diamond bank is set to fly out soon to join the army for training.

I hate to break it to you, but I prefer to continue on the path that I have known to work well for me rather than subscribing to some MUMBO JUMBO theory of how THE WORLD IS ALWAYS WATCHING ME ME ME AND OUT TO GET ME ME ME!!! That has never really worked for anyone till date.

@kobojunkie you have not rebutted any of the issues that i raised instead you have fallen back on that tired old defence of "conspiracy theories" im actually quite amazed that you live in the US and you are still blind as to what is going on around you - i dont live in the US but i know more about the country than you do!!!

okay let me break it down - just because i am aware of what is going on around me doesnt mean that all i think about is "being black" as you put it, the reality is that the whites DO have an agenda which is diametrically opposed to the progress of blacks, maybe if you had been beaten, bitten by police dogs, brutalised by racist white police officers and spat on maybe you might just understand or maybe if you had participated in the freedom rides, bussings and marches of the civil rights era, i just might have been able to get through to you, or maybe, just maybe if you had been a victim of the FBI's COINTELPRO programme to "neutralise" militant blacks in america a glimmer of understanding might have appeared in your befuddled mind.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COINTELPRO

are you aware that the very "freedoms"that you take forgranted today in the US were fought for courageously by african americans 150 years after the so called emancipation of blacks ? these are the kind of freedoms which you dont even enjoy in your own country - nigeria, and which you have not even had the courage to fight for, so please, dont even come with all this conspiracy crap it doesnt wash with me.

just because some misguided greedy igbos have jumped at what they see as a chance in a lifetime doesnt mean that its a good idea, maybe this your diamond bank friend might want to speak to some african american vietnam and gulf war 1 war veterans to find out just how wonderful the US army is. maybe when he hears about the high suicide rate, depression and homicides committed by veterans he might begin to think twice. it is actually on record that 1/4 of vietnam war casualties were african american as they were deliberately used as cannon fodder,it is also a well known fact that US war veterans suffer high incidences of unemployment due to the complete mental breakdown that many face as a result of post traumatic stress disorder. it is also a well known fact that the US army targets blacks and hispanics for recruitment as many are from poor backgrounds and are looking for a way out of the poverty trap, what these recruits dont know is that 9/10 times they are posted to the war front as they are seen as expendable and the ones who do survive come back unable to be rehabilitated back into society due to a complete and total shattering of their minds - hows that for a fantastic career move.

like i said you have not come up with any argument to rebut any of the issues i raised therefore how can you dismiss them as mumbo jumbo, i can equally accuse you of being a misguided,clueless follower because you have no substantive reason for disagreeing with what i have said.

bidemi12:

@Kobojunkie Tell am!! What freaks me out more is his definition of cluster bomb. I laugh i wan die

@bidemi12 pray tell can we have your definition of a cluster bomb

citizenY:

@CAP28

Thank you from the bottom of my heart. I cannot thatnk you enough.
i never really gave much thought to this post. Our folk in the diaspora
may never be relied upon to defend us. They have already been
compromised either by their environment or greed. Some of them have
grudges against the country. That is not to say tha, especially those on
self imposed asylum.

This is not a sweeping generalisation and I seek the forgiveness of all who
are not so inclined.

Just imagine this lady on youtube and these are the sorts encouraging guys
to join Africom for the exprience. Dem say na greedy fly dey follow dead body
enter grave.

Those who wish Nigeria bad and see joining Africam to spite us will see the light
when they are deployed only to Afghanistan. They may never see service in
Africa. They will be cannon fodder there. Maybe after service you can become
a soldier of fortune, which has no prospects here!!!!!

@citizen Y you are more than welcome, dont mind some of these our people who are walking around with blindfolds covering their eyes, it is greed and selfishness that will kill us in this country, where have you seen a nation of people so quick to switch sides because of a few pieces of silver, look at african americans who helped whites fight their war of independence and their civil war - what happened to them? were they not still kept in bondage after sacrificing their lives for the whites, even after the american civil war african americans were still forced to live under a segregated system until 1965 when they forced whites to give them the right to vote. now nigerians want to come and play a game which is way out of their league.

all the americans are doing now is using igbos against their fellow nigerians purely for their own selfish economic interest and still there are people on here talking about joining the US army as a "good career move" - you have to laugh - this is why i say speak to those who went before you and they will tell you their stories, african americans have lived all their lives around whites and they know them inside out, therefore any warning that they give you should be heeded not ridiculed, but our people think they know it all, in a bid to make what they see as easy money they will end up paying a higher price.

@Cap28 You still do not understand. The US emphasis is not on recruiting igbo soldiers but yoruba speaking soldiers irrespective or tribe, region or country. So the topic post is misleading in the first place.

oh lord the fellow is out to embarass Yorubas on this forum.

thank goodness I'm hausa.

bidemi12:

@sjeezy8 After basic training and AIT, (six years ago) I got my posting and the first officer i reported to was a captain. As i approached him his features were oddly familiar. When i got within range i gave my salute and lo and behold when the officer uttered "at ease" i was amazed to find out he was igbo. Can you imagine an igbo captain in the US army. And not just a mere captain. this guy was a highly trainned army engineer, the level that would make Nigerian proffs feel like secondary school boys. I told him i never thought i would meet a Nigerian talk less of an igbo man with such responsibilities and position in the US army. He said i had not seen anything yet. I later found out that there were higher ranked Nigerian soldiers there. I asked him about his opinion on matters in Nigeria and the biafra aspiration. You know what he said? "dont mind those fools who through no fault of theirs have not seen a better option and have been brainwashed through poverty to believe in someone elses agenda." My guy it is a privillege to be part of the US army. It is an opportunity to go places you ordinarily would only read about, do things you would ordinarily dream about and be whatever you want to be in life. And i mean whatever. And please poster stop misinforming people. the US army's only priority as per Nigeria in relation to recruitment is yoruba speaking people. They care less where you are from.

This smart & educated guy knows what he is talking about. He has been there,done it & has the t-shirt . That's the sort of people y'all should listen too, not a buncha rambling Nairalanders.

Why in the first instance do igbos always want to feel important in nigeria, Although they are a major tribe but they lost that right when they declared biafra & fought a defeated war, joining the us army will only make matter worse for them, Rubbish,

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@Cap28 You still do not understand. The US emphasis is not on recruiting igbo soldiers but yoruba speaking soldiers irrespective or tribe, region or country. So the topic post is misleading in the first place.

@ bidemi12,

When is your next draft coming on. There are many candidates waiting at the American Embassy and OPC, and I sincerely hope
you will be on the US recruitment team, Cannon fodder. And I hope you rise to be a General.Lagos will contribute the KAI and
a few area boys. How many are we taking from your village?

Bluetooth,
Don't worry ur pathetic self about Igbos. HISSSS

I don't understand all the fuss about Nigerians, Igbos etc joining the US military. If you want to get a good training in any specialized field, the US military is not a bad place to be. I myself joined the military and trained as a military policemen, then later I joined the national guard and trained as an IT Specialist. Also, after my military service I was able to use the GI Bill to pay my way through college. From my experience in the military, I noticed that the main Nigerians in the US military were Igbos and Yorubas.

this udezue is obsessed with this biafra rubbish.youre not better than jomo gbomo-hiding behind your computer.if fightin reach now u wud be missing in action.get a life!

I really don't understand the topic, is it because igbos make up the majority of Nigerians in America? If so then fair enough.

But Africom is a move by the US empire to mobilize it's power and influence due to the frail situation in the middle east and other super powers like China, Japan,etc having dips in Africa's resources.

I'd advise Nigerians and anyone else not to join the army. Sure, it can make life easier by getting all the freebies that come with joining the army, but sometimes you have to think about the consequences of
you actions and the morality of the issue.

In preparation for 2015.the world needs the indigenes that know the terrain as peace keepers.A war is obviously anticipated in the igbo area.maybe one of the deadliest wars in world history.let us all avoid this war by promoting justice and supporting some true nigerian leaders like wole soyinka.if not, the next world war{religious islam vs christianity} is in Nigeria.''QUOTE ME''

What pains me with these debates on NL is that everybody holds a certain hard stance in his head, locks the door and throw away the keys. So the person is closed to seeing the merits of opposing views, no matter how valid the points are.

As for me i see the merits in the posters concern and i also understand the views of the other side.

First the US would not be wasting funds and time with training Nigerians (even carrying out aggressive advertising campaigns) if they do not hope to reap some reward sometimes in the future. especially when the enormous cost involved could be put to solving problems of ignorance and poverty that lead to the instability in the first place. History has no shown the US and indeed any western nation as being selflessly charitable in the relations with others - especially black Africans.

Also the US is using the Roman Model to dominate the world. They conquer you either militarily or economically and then Americanize you (especially if you have something they desperately need like skills or resources). You then become an American with full rights, rights which you were probably denied in your home country. Under such circumstances you lose all allegiance to your home country and owe strong allegiance to the US of A. That was how Rome was able to conquer be ancient world - By Romanizing others. America is also succeeding in its conquest my Americanizing others.

could someone pls tell me where to buy the forms im ready to resign if it comes to that. jokes here say we should stick to naija dat has done nothn 4 me rATHER MAKN IT DIFFCULT FOR ME 2 SURVIVE . A NATION DAT SEES ME AS A threat, abeg ude where can i get da forms

adeboy77:

could someone pls tell me where to buy the forms im ready to resign if it comes to that. jokes here say we should stick to naija dat has done nothn 4 me rATHER MAKN IT DIFFCULT FOR ME 2 SURVIVE . A NATION DAT SEES ME AS A threat, abeg ude where can i get da forms

Me too!
Any one who knows where i can buy the form should mail me: chosen_04@yahoo.com.

Its better we get cheated by the americans than allow the hausa/fulanis to continue to fool us.

ChosenO4

Why u wan leave me na?

citizenY:

ChosenO4

Why u wan leave me na?

Bros, in search of better life.

Am tired of Boko Haram, Kala kato, Jobs crisis, Muslim killing xtains and xtians fighting back. Tired of trading blame. Tired of a sick and backward moving nigeria. Tired of the world looking at us as 419er, drug peddler cos of the activites of a few.

Worst still we cant beat them and its obvious i can join them, Thus my desire to say bye to the curse called nigeria forever.

Whats is the essence of remaining in nigeria when i can never prayer for her. Dont that i dont want to pray, but cos she doesnt need it.

@chosen04
Make I follow? At least I go hold ya bag abi na backpack dem dey call am for yankee.

African salad(abacha),Eba and ofe owerri dey there ?

Hamburger and this raw vegetable and hamburger dey purge me.