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Re: Theory Of Evolution Debunked! Evolutionists Pls View Intelligently. by Nobody: 1:48pm On Jul 29, 2016 |
ainaabbey: This thread is not about Religion but about Science so kindly shelve your opinion as it isnt required. Evolution is a farce and a bold lie of science. If evolution isnt proven and all we have are speculations and imaginary scenarios it shows its false. If DNA additions cannot occur how then did evolution occur even on a micro level? If you want to delve into Religion here kindly open your own thread. |
Re: Theory Of Evolution Debunked! Evolutionists Pls View Intelligently. by Nobody: 2:10pm On Jul 29, 2016 |
My question to you, saying Evolution is wrong, then what theory is right by you... or better still what theory is better than that of science(Evolution)? 1 Like |
Re: Theory Of Evolution Debunked! Evolutionists Pls View Intelligently. by Nobody: 2:19pm On Jul 29, 2016 |
ainaabbey: This question is not for this thread as I wish not to derail it. Another thread will address this. |
Re: Theory Of Evolution Debunked! Evolutionists Pls View Intelligently. by Nobody: 3:22pm On Jul 29, 2016 |
naijadeyhia:this turned out to be a bold faced lie. It turns out the majority of mutations are neutral and even the ones that are harmful are usually just the ones that are harmful in that specific environment but would beneficial in other places. Even little things such as breeding and adaptation are impossible without mutations. And if mutations can't add genes, explain how gene duplication, a scientifically observed phenomenon, is possible. 2 Likes |
Re: Theory Of Evolution Debunked! Evolutionists Pls View Intelligently. by Nobody: 3:29pm On Jul 29, 2016 |
Teempakguy: How were they observed? In chaotic nature or in a precisely ordered lab experiment? 2 Likes |
Re: Theory Of Evolution Debunked! Evolutionists Pls View Intelligently. by Nobody: 3:41pm On Jul 29, 2016 |
naijadeyhia:in living organisms. A laboratory experiment is not needed, they carry out gene duplication all by themselves. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Theory Of Evolution Debunked! Evolutionists Pls View Intelligently. by ValentineMary(m): 4:27pm On Jul 29, 2016 |
naijadeyhia:I never said that. The change in conformation of reverse transcriptase is beneficial to the viral cell. Don't quote me wrong. 2 Likes |
Re: Theory Of Evolution Debunked! Evolutionists Pls View Intelligently. by ValentineMary(m): 4:30pm On Jul 29, 2016 |
naijadeyhia:Pls can u provide link from a reliable site on what u just said DNA from the bones of a Neanderthal baby who died 29,000 years ago offers further evidence that Neanderthals are cousins rather than ancestors of modern humans. Writing in Thursday’s issue of the journal Nature , William Goodwin of the University of Glasgow in Scotland, along with collaborators from Russia and Sweden, report that the baby’s DNA is much more similar to another Neanderthal DNA sequence reported in 1997 than to that of modern humans. cogweb.ucla.edu/Abstracts/Goodwin_00.html 2 Likes |
Re: Theory Of Evolution Debunked! Evolutionists Pls View Intelligently. by ValentineMary(m): 4:37pm On Jul 29, 2016 |
naijadeyhia: Let us assume I can get ammonia, hydrogen, water, and CO2 and mix it under high temperature, we have amino acid. So much for order not coming from chaos Of course these nucleotides can be manipulated and re produced in the lab and randomly arranged. Ever heard of XNA (xeno nucleic acid)? u can google it out. The first artificial nucleotide. The 2nd law of thermodynamics. Hmmm I guess mountain formation and rock formation does not also follow these laws else how can there be arrangment in a universe disintegrating simple. Just like the case of rock formation energy is being input. 3 Likes |
Re: Theory Of Evolution Debunked! Evolutionists Pls View Intelligently. by Nobody: 5:07pm On Jul 29, 2016 |
naijadeyhia:it's like you don't even get evolution. The virus isn't going to become an invincible organism. It's simply mutating, and those specimens who develop mutations that can resist the drugs become the new population. It doesn't "weaken" we just find increasingly smarter ways to stay ahead as humans. And despite that, there's a lot of speculation that soon, most microbes will be resistant to almost every possible antibiotic we can come up with. Essentially, that would signify a natural process, without the help of an intelligent being, essentially defeating the frantic efforts of several million intelligent entities. Essentially a case of "chance" being better at achieving results than intelligence, something people like you claim is impossible. 1 Like |
Re: Theory Of Evolution Debunked! Evolutionists Pls View Intelligently. by Nobody: 5:23pm On Jul 29, 2016 |
ValentineMary: His sample is a 430,000 year old fossil as against your 29,000 year old fossil. So whixh should be more relevant and accurate? http://www.nature.com/news/oldest-ancient-human-dna-details-dawn-of-neanderthals-1.19557 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Theory Of Evolution Debunked! Evolutionists Pls View Intelligently. by Nobody: 5:36pm On Jul 29, 2016 |
ValentineMary: So you want to say DNA was created by chance? Do you even know what you are saying? How can chance and chaotic randomness create something that super computers have not been able to decipher? Something that even all science still find baffling? Do you know how statistically improbable it is? So one day ammonia, co2, water and the right amount of energy was just conveniently available and when they merged they formed the right kind of DNA which then doctored life? When the amino acid itself has no life in it? If you say the key ingredient is the energy, at what strenght? Surely science wold have genetically engineered a baby from that and cloning would be the new Robot. How many animals have been reanimated using this high temperature theory? Mountains form in order to degrade . They do not get better they eventually erode and shrink. They do not improve! Over time wear and tear ruins those formations. Besides rock formations are precise and not random as against DNA. If water keeps flowing over a certain place loadsd with limestones eventually they will shape it but constant erosion will also destroy it. Likewise glaciers and icicles. They form in order to disintegrate. Perfect example is the north pole. Even with the perfecr environment for iceberg formation such formations break up and melt as chaos never gets better it disintegrates. 1 Like |
Re: Theory Of Evolution Debunked! Evolutionists Pls View Intelligently. by ValentineMary(m): 5:43pm On Jul 29, 2016 |
naijadeyhia: This is what the link says:
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Re: Theory Of Evolution Debunked! Evolutionists Pls View Intelligently. by ValentineMary(m): 5:54pm On Jul 29, 2016 |
naijadeyhia: That's how amazing nature can be. At least my statement about the proof of the randomness of DNA has been proven. That's why it took about a billion years to happen.
Amino acid don't form DNA bro. They form protein which is essential to life
At the early stage of earth, the earth was very hot thus these was the energy source also they (cells) mostly survived at hydrothermal vent because of the supply of minerals. And certain organisms like hyperthermophile can survive these hot conditions. The field of evolutionary biology is still young so wait till we get the info in details then u would see ur baby. [quote[ Mountains form in order to degrade . They do not get better they eventually erode and shrink. They do not improve! Over time wear and tear ruins those formations. Besides rock formations are precise and not random as against DNA. If water keeps flowing over a certain place loadsd with limestones eventually they will shape it but constant erosion will also destroy it. Likewise glaciers and icicles. They form in order to disintegrate. Perfect example is the north pole. Even with the perfecr environment for iceberg formation such formations break up and melt as chaos never gets better it disintegrates.[/quote] U need to study ur geology bro and mountain formation. And the north pole is disintegrating as a result of global warming mostly caused by green house gases. 2 Likes |
Re: Theory Of Evolution Debunked! Evolutionists Pls View Intelligently. by Nobody: 6:10pm On Jul 29, 2016 |
Re: Theory Of Evolution Debunked! Evolutionists Pls View Intelligently. by Nobody: 6:28pm On Jul 29, 2016 |
ValentineMary: The billions of years time frame being declared around by science is the issue. Will you alive to witness another evolutionary process? Absolutely not! Was anyone around to witness rhe first evolutionary process? Absolutely not as well. Even science declares that evolution "probably happened" as the very theory has been declared as inconclusive by science and scientists. So let me apply the same probability here; Calculations on the probability of life forming by chance do take into account the possibility of multiple events, put the probability for the formation of the most basic of cells by natural processes at (at best) 1 in 1040,000 — that’s a number one with 40,000 zeros after it! Even this assumes all the ingredients are present, which is impossible! Now, if every atom in the universe were an experiment repeated every millisecond for the 15 billion years age of the universe commonly claimed by evolutionists, how does that affect the probability? It is now about 1 in 103900. So, when such improbable events are being discussed, the number of conceivable experiments has little effect on the matter. It is usually agreed that something with odds of less than 1 in 1050 will never happen. In other words, the origin of life without an intelligent designer is as impossible as it is impossible to be! Also, there are no actual experiments to show that non-living matter can overcome the many chemical hurdles to form a self-reproducing cell That’s why no-one has claimed the $1.35 Million (USD) Origin-of-Life Prize. 1 Like |
Re: Theory Of Evolution Debunked! Evolutionists Pls View Intelligently. by ValentineMary(m): 7:34pm On Jul 29, 2016 |
naijadeyhia: We don't need to be there 3 billion years earlier. The traces are there for us to observe. Another mistake we very often make is the God of the gaps. Because we don't know now, we never will thus God did it. That's the height of slot in science. 500 years ago we did not know that bacteria caused infection. We could have easily said demons caused infection. but the problem is that we might never know what bacteris is because we filled our ignorance with demons. Fom ur analogy because we don't know how all bio molecules are formed even though we know how some like amino acid (having in mind that earth was highly densed with ammonia, methane, CO2, and hydrogen at it's initial stage) are formed, we call God to fill our ignorance. Have u asked urself why the most abundant elements in the universe is also the most abundant in living things 3 Likes |
Re: Theory Of Evolution Debunked! Evolutionists Pls View Intelligently. by ValentineMary(m): 7:36pm On Jul 29, 2016 |
naijadeyhia:That he analysed the mitochondrial DNA |
Re: Theory Of Evolution Debunked! Evolutionists Pls View Intelligently. by Nobody: 7:40pm On Jul 29, 2016 |
ValentineMary: I never mentioned God. You did! I started this thread by saying this is not about Creationism and even as a theist I have refrained from bringing God into this convo but you an Atheist couldnt help it could you? |
Re: Theory Of Evolution Debunked! Evolutionists Pls View Intelligently. by Nobody: 8:10pm On Jul 29, 2016 |
ValentineMary: You do realise that evolution is mostly preconceived ideas and not all real data. According to evolution life began from a single celled organism and the entire process tleading to us happened over billions of years. They say we began from bacteria. The entire surface of the earth is covered by bacteria and we say life is still evolving yet we cannot stroll outside and scrape off bacteria from the ground to see it in a different stage of evolution naturally. Billions of years of evolution yet we have no specie or bacteria becoming a different bacteria as something inbetween the evolutionary process as science expects us to believe that everything evolved at the same time at the same pace and under the same conditions so we cannot see any inbetween evolutionary process today because of the Billions of years process it takes. Evolution theory is a bonafide con job and its working for you. Cheers! 1 Like |
Re: Theory Of Evolution Debunked! Evolutionists Pls View Intelligently. by felixomor: 8:46pm On Jul 29, 2016 |
naijadeyhia: A good con job at that. |
Re: Theory Of Evolution Debunked! Evolutionists Pls View Intelligently. by ValentineMary(m): 8:43am On Jul 30, 2016 |
naijadeyhia: It is a theory. And a theory in science means deductions made from observations. You say it is not real data but u shared me a link of a guy who analysed neanderthals DNA and u were using the guy statement on contaminated DNA to back up ur argument. Pls try to beconsistent.
Who said bacteria are the first organisms bacteria are far too complex na. Ever heard of prokaryotic cells? Study the Linn theory on how eukaryotic cells like bacteria evolved from prokaryotic cells. And yes scientist have made cells . Be current in ur search for knowledge. And actually we have seen smaller evolving eg plasmodium falciparium has evolved it's DNA thus it no longer produce the enzyme for the prev cell wall. Thats why penicilin can't be used against malaria again. Instead it evolved producing a new cell wall. Evolution theory is a bonafide con job and its working for you. Cheers! That's because u don't understand it. 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Theory Of Evolution Debunked! Evolutionists Pls View Intelligently. by ValentineMary(m): 8:47am On Jul 30, 2016 |
naijadeyhia: See ur life who first called intelligent designer? read it up. And u would know who first brought God into this discussion. 3 Likes |
Re: Theory Of Evolution Debunked! Evolutionists Pls View Intelligently. by raphieMontella: 9:15am On Jul 30, 2016 |
ValentineMary:i once gave him a whole lot of present evolution in action..bt of course he refused... Any present lack of knowledge does nt imply god or an intelligent designer.. Thats scienc... always improving with new observations...nd the future of science is very bright 2 Likes |
Re: Theory Of Evolution Debunked! Evolutionists Pls View Intelligently. by raphieMontella: 10:29am On Jul 30, 2016 |
felixomor:u do not wear clothes ryt?..u walk arnd the streets nak*d like a two year old ryt? U have no idea of what evolution is...ffrm the pic u posted...clearly..u dnt have an idea of it... |
Re: Theory Of Evolution Debunked! Evolutionists Pls View Intelligently. by felixomor: 11:22am On Jul 30, 2016 |
raphieMontella: So because the homo sapien is not wearing clothes, the diagram is wrong? Abeg i dont have comments for u. Abeg Just move. |
Re: Theory Of Evolution Debunked! Evolutionists Pls View Intelligently. by Nobody: 12:01pm On Jul 30, 2016 |
ValentineMary: So to you intelligent designer translates to God? Why not. Why did yu single out God as what I meant by intelligent designer? Why not Sango or Buddha or Krishna why God? Quit being mischievous. .....you know why you chose God. Let me just ignore you for now. |
Re: Theory Of Evolution Debunked! Evolutionists Pls View Intelligently. by Nobody: 12:02pm On Jul 30, 2016 |
ValentineMary: So to you intelligent designer translates to God?. Why did yu single out God as what I meant by intelligent designer? Why not Sango or Buddha or Krishna why God? Quit being mischievous. .....you know why you chose God. Let me just ignore you for now. 1 Like |
Re: Theory Of Evolution Debunked! Evolutionists Pls View Intelligently. by ValentineMary(m): 12:33pm On Jul 30, 2016 |
naijadeyhia:See what I mean. When I say God the average xtian means I am taking specifically of their God. But u forgot Sango, Krishna, etc are also called God. And Oh Buddha was not a God and he never claimed to be. 2 Likes |
Re: Theory Of Evolution Debunked! Evolutionists Pls View Intelligently. by Nobody: 12:50pm On Jul 30, 2016 |
ValentineMary: Now you want to soft pedal and deceive yourself. I have already ignored you |
Re: Theory Of Evolution Debunked! Evolutionists Pls View Intelligently. by Nobody: 1:20pm On Jul 30, 2016 |
raphieMontella: You that knows all about evolution explain it to him na. Lol Suddenly clothes are also part of the big bang evolution theory. Smh 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Theory Of Evolution Debunked! Evolutionists Pls View Intelligently. by felixomor: 1:32pm On Jul 30, 2016 |
naijadeyhia: Bros, thank u so much. Many of them dont even seem to know the pathway for the evolution of homo sapien that darwin postulates. Hence they are fighting that picture. The guy no go kill me. |
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