erico2k2:

Better leave her(Madam) to do the choice bit and you the executioner ,works like magic ahah at least 4 me

Good advice. When i was about to do mine, it was Madam that was communicating with the guy and giving him directions on what she want. My own na to send money when dem don conclude. Kitchen na Madam office o and dem no dey joke with that area.

No o. This is the cheapest option. Believe it. This is also built in. You dont need to cast anyting. Just wood on either side and front doors.

For built in wardrobes if u already have the area made for it from the onset then that may be cheaper but in my case i did not have that so this was my cheapest option

erico2k2:

Bro wont the inbuilt wardrobe be cheaper?

Jummymine:
i really,really respect this woman.

She is our Mother here and mentor. I have learnt alot from her on building practicality and not theories.

My people, I need your help in confirming borehole drilling.


I spoke to another borehole drilling operator and I was given another quote of N450K.

He later said it can be done for N300K if they use a smaller drill.

My question is, has anyone heard of using a smaller drill for a borhole?

I wasn't aware of varying sizes of drilling machines allowing one to do the job at a cheaper cost.

Just to burtress brags's point, this is the cheapest option that i found if you dont have the side walls for wardobe done already. What happened in my case was that I had already tiled the floor, and to cast the wardrobe would have meant the following.

# breaking the plastered walls
# breaking some of the floor tiles to set block
# setting new blocks, and anchoring it into the existing wall which will be slightly broken.
#If you want the top to be concrete, you will also need iron bender to set like 12mm rods.
# I was also told the concrete wardrobe na old school, truth is that me I do not care. If I had the blocks set from day 1, thats what i will implement for practicality sake and keep cost down.
# plaster the walls back again.

I felt that was too much, so I have a fixed wardrobe made from MDF, I will share some pictures next week. In one of the flats, I had a 5ft space created for wardrobe from the onset, this is where they just put a side shelf and a standard 4ft wardrobe, and it was not necessarily cheaper, the guy talk say the extra mdf he carry do shelf nko.

brag3:
No o. This is the cheapest option. Believe it. This is also built in. You dont need to cast anyting. Just wood on either side and front doors.

For built in wardrobes if u already have the area made for it from the onset then that may be cheaper but in my case i did not have that so this was my cheapest option

Have been following this thread for quite a while now. I ve follow and unfollow. I think where most people in the diaspora missed it is the point that they want quality but cheap services. It all started when you begin to compare quotes.

Comparing of quotes shouldn't make u decide on going for the cheapest. In the real business world, most people go for the highest quote and not the lowest. You can even smell anything fishy from quotes and that will prevent you from getting into the wrong hand.

You should know dat d person giving you cheaper quote will make sure he cut corners so as to meet his own ends. It's normal... Some firms do lower their quotes but by comparing several standard quote, u should be able to make some wise decision.

It saddens me hearing so many people were defrauded but I believe you guys will definitely come over ds. It's painful not seeing what you ve paid for.

I am into Borehole drilling geophysical investigations and from my little experience dealing with people abroad, I can boldly say what they want is cheap and quality services which Is not possible to get.

I guess this is a lesson to every other million Nigerians living abroad.
I will advice Brabus to contact all his clients and settle any disagreement. I guess he would have learnt his lesson too. Good name is better than money.

Not an expert, so pls treat my comments with caution.
The smaller drill might mean a smaller diameter of pipe to go into the ground to draw the water. A smaller drill might not be able to go as deep as a bigger one. Have you tried asking them about these 2 points ?

msogunro:
My people, I need your help in confirming borehole drilling.


I spoke to another borehole drilling operator and I was given another quote of N450K.

He later said it can be done for N300K if they use a smaller drill.

My question is, has anyone heard of using a smaller drill for a borhole?

I wasn't aware of varying sizes of drilling machines allowing one to do the job at a cheaper cost.

Ok as promised, the contact for the barrel shipping to Lagos
Fastrax Cargo Ltd, Unit 70, Imperial Trading Estate
Lambs Lane North, Rainham, Essex.
RM13 9XL.

0203 0020 213 | 07946790790 | BBM: 2BE53D74| info@fastraxcargo.com

msogunro:
My people, I need your help in confirming borehole drilling.


I spoke to another borehole drilling operator and I was given another quote of N450K.

He later said it can be done for N300K if they use a smaller drill.

My question is, has anyone heard of using a smaller drill for a borhole?

I wasn't aware of varying sizes of drilling machines allowing one to do the job at a cheaper cost.

Oh, just seeing this. Smaller drill? Maybe he meant smaller rig. Dnt know what he is trying to say sha

mavverick:
Not an expert, so pls treat my comments with caution.
The smaller drill might mean a smaller diameter of pipe to go into the ground to draw the water. A smaller drill might not be able to go as deep as a bigger one. Have you tried asking them about these 2 points ?

You are talking bout bit size here, it shouldn't influence price dat much. That variation is too much nw 300 to 450k.

msogunro:
My people, I need your help in confirming borehole drilling.


I spoke to another borehole drilling operator and I was given another quote of N450K.

He later said it can be done for N300K if they use a smaller drill.

My question is, has anyone heard of using a smaller drill for a borhole?

I wasn't aware of varying sizes of drilling machines allowing one to do the job at a cheaper cost.

Borehole na 140k for my area o

mavverick:
Finishing is definitely more expensive, remember that Nigeria produces nothing these days, so you are at the mercy of the current exchange rates.

For the interlocks, I have a policy of buying my own materials where possible, so this is what I did.


1 x 30 tonne of stone dust with chipping.
I have some left over cement, but i initially bought 100 to start with even though they requested for 150, and even the 100 self hasnt been fully used. So be careful here. The cement was also used for plastering fence, so hard to know exactly how many they used here.
I bought red pigment, for like 20k.
The guy gets paid N550 per SQM and he provides everything else (rammer, diesel, molding containers, nylon etc)
I will give him some free nylon as its the left over from a previous phase.
I also casted my stones and I want wet curing,whereby the stones are immersed in water where possible or water wetting, this makes the stones stronger. I went to some of the sites that the interlocking guys did, I saw dips and stones breaking, so I want to avoid this if possible. I also filled the compound, almost a year ago to ensure natural compaction so that when the stones are laid, the ground is hard and well compacted as this is what causes dips where there are movement or where the ramming/compacting isnt done well. I understand from some interlockers that when the compound is quickly sandfilled and only rammed in a haste, this can also happen.


I consulted our resident Engineer Abdulwastec on this before proceeding, so stones are already molded but I will only lay it after external painting.

Wow, thanks, I am just seeing this. I got a quote of #1300 psm. This is for molding (materials included) and laying (excluding materials).

Larwin:
Have been following this thread for quite a while now. I ve follow and unfollow. I think where most people in the diaspora missed it is the point that they want quality but cheap services. It all started when you begin to compare quotes.

Comparing of quotes shouldn't make u decide on going for the cheapest. In the real business world, most people go for the highest quote and not the lowest. You can even smell anything fishy from quotes and that will prevent you from getting into the wrong hand.

You should know dat d person giving you cheaper quote will make sure he cut corners so as to meet his own ends. It's normal... Some firms do lower their quotes but by comparing several standard quote, u should be able to make some wise decision.

It saddens me hearing so many people were defrauded but I believe you guys will definitely come over ds. It's painful not seeing what you ve paid for.

I am into Borehole drilling geophysical investigations and from my little experience dealing with people abroad, I can boldly say what they want is cheap and quality services which Is not possible to get.

I guess this is a lesson to every other million Nigerians living abroad.
I will advice Brabus to contact all his clients and settle any disagreement. I guess he would have learnt his lesson too. Good name is better than money.

The bolded is very true. I also fell for this option

I went for the cheapest roofer and the guy barber my head anyhow

Apart from going the cheapest quote route, I also struggle to understand how grown men who worked hard for their money abroad will just call Brabus, negotiate and hand over in some instance more than N10 million naira to him to deliver a house to them. I mean are people that naive or is Brabus using juju on them? What is wrong with you buying all your materials and just pay surpevision cost?

Even after handing over all that money, these people don't even deem it necessary to employ family members to monitor Brabus only relying on photos sent by Brabus. Na wa for some people o.

I keep hearing don't involve your family in your house building. Dem go chop your money. OK, now that you gave your house build to a professional, how far?

Any new person that comes on this site to report Brabus of fraud for a project started in the last year will no longer have my sympathy. Enough of all these nonsense.

Give Brabus a second chance at your own peril.

If I give Brabus a second chance after knowing all that I know about him on this forum, I intend to bear the consequences (good or bad) alone without disturbing any of you guys.

Thanks.

erico2k2:
Ok as promised, the contact for the barrel shipping to Lagos
Fastrax Cargo Ltd, Unit 70, Imperial Trading Estate
Lambs Lane North, Rainham, Essex.
RM13 9XL.

0203 0020 213 | 07946790790 | BBM: 2BE53D74| info@fastraxcargo.com

Please what is barrel shipping? Na oil barrel? Pardon my ignorance

Demainman1:


The bolded is very true. I also fell for this option

I went for the cheapest roofer and the guy barber my head anyhow

Apart from going the cheapest quote route, I also struggle to understand how grown men who worked hard for their money abroad will just call Brabus, negotiate and hand over in some instance more than N10 million naira to him to deliver a house to them. I mean are people that naive or is Brabus using juju on them? What is wrong with you buying all your materials and just pay surpevision cost?


Even after handing over all that money, these people don't even deem it necessary to employ family members to monitor Brabus only relying on photos sent by Brabus. Na wa for some people o.

I keep hearing don't involve your family in your house building. Dem go chop your money. OK, now that you gave your house build to a professional, how far?

Any new person that comes on this site to report Brabus of fraud for a project started in the last year will no longer have my sympathy. Enough of all these nonsense.

Give Brabus a second chance at your own peril.

If I give Brabus a second chance after knowing all that I know about him on the forum, I intend to bear the consequences (good or bad) alone without disturbing any of you guys.

Thanks.

Seriously that's just it. If you are in the diaspora, what you should be after is quality even if it's at the expense of over paying though some people are bad.... they will over charge you and still won't deliver.
But me personally I don't support going after cheap service. As a professional, I don't offer it I have a corporate standard and as a person I don't go for it.

I think the reason for nt using family members for supervision is just to make everything formal. You can't possibly charge your family members to court if dey defraud u. If your builder didn't meet up with the agreement you can easily take strict steps against him. Giving somebody 10m, 20m at once is not done. It's not hearable. In ideal business world, you pay for project in percentages and not once.

I think you all have valid points but lets be realistic here even if you pay the highest price here in Nigeria it just does not guarantee you quality. Some people will still take all that money and slap you.

The best thing as mentioned is to buy your own materials and pay for supervision. That way at least the quality and quantity of materials used can be guaranteed. The workmanship and supervison may however be at an issue but that one can be monitored by someone one else.

I also believe that even after being beaten by a family member I will still advice this route. At least in my case we were still able to deal with my sister after what she did. Not sure how this will have been handled if it was pure outsiders.

Finally pray and pray and do well. As long as you always do well you will get over any hurdles that this builders or suppliers throw in front of you.
It has been a long hard journey but as I always say we are still standing and going strong and almost completed.

God is great

Edited. When I say family member I mean to monitor the supervisor or Engineer not to do the actual supervision and for such person please pay them for their services. Not formally but at least keep them happy as well so as not to encourage them to work wih the engineer or supervisor. Does not always work but worth doing

Larwin:


Seriously that's just it. If you are in the diaspora, what you should be after is quality even if it's at the expense of over paying though some people are bad.... they will over charge you and still won't deliver.
But me personally I don't support going after cheap service. As a professional, I don't offer it I have a corporate standard and as a person I don't go for it.

I think the reason for nt using family members for supervision is just to make everything formal. You can't possibly charge your family members to court if dey defraud u. If your builder didn't meet up with the agreement you can easily take strict steps against him. Giving somebody 10m, 20m at once is not done. It's not hearable. In ideal business world, you pay for project in percentages and not once.

Larwin:


Oh, just seeing this. Smaller drill? Maybe he meant smaller rig. Dnt know what he is trying to say sha

Thank you. He said smaller rig. He said it goes just as deep and the borehole would end up the same as if it was done by the big rig.

I asked why it was cheaper, but he kept saying it is because it's smaller. Doesn't make sense to me. I was hoping someone would know.

jossy26:


Baba no go build house wey go collapse oo; irrespective of the clients taste that amount won't fly; don't cut corners, don't be too desperate....abi are you one of brabus protégé?

ok Sir! but I just finished one last two months. I am talking from experience bro.

Yea, u r right. I think what people need here is no more talk about Brabus.

Let people give d way forward so as not to fall victim. Be it family or outsider, nobody will want to see something below the standard he desires.

There is an adage in Yorùbá that bí ojú bá farabale ó má rí mú........ I will just say we should be careful in jumping at deals. Not all enticing deals are good for your money and not all costly deals are good too but if you are watchful and prayerful too you will definitely not enter into the wrong hand.

Let's erase the mentality of looking for cheaper services too, it doesn't work here. Pls believe me.

From me the best you can do is to compare standard company quotes, it will help a lot.

There is what we called Project monitoring. You can employ a company for ds or individuals with good integrity. they will make sure you get the best service.

If I go to any Nairalander site to work, I always try to give them a feedback on what is happening on their site.

msogunro:


Thank you. He said smaller rig. He said it goes just as deep and the borehole would end up the same as if it was done by the big rig.

I asked why it was cheaper, but he kept saying it is because it's smaller. Doesn't make sense to me. I was hoping someone would know.

Smaller rig means local rig
Whether local or Chinese, the drilling methodology remains the same
It's either a 5 or 7 bit that goes into the ground
Anyway I seriously doubt if any local rig can go 240 ft, I stand to be corrected tho

I will only advise you use the big Chinese rigs cos of that terrain
They do charge 5k per meters
80m will go for 400k
If they hit water before 80m, your change hoes into your pocket

msogunro:


Thank you. He said smaller rig. He said it goes just as deep and the borehole would end up the same as if it was done by the big rig.

I asked why it was cheaper, but he kept saying it is because it's smaller. Doesn't make sense to me. I was hoping someone would know.

Smile, rig is just a tool be it big or small. A small rig can work perfectly than big rig. The size na just design. American rigs are compact, Indians rig are the big. To me it shouldn't affect the price dat much. If a small rig will get me a discount of 150k then what is the bigger rig doing in the market.

I don't know his intents but it doesn't sound too good.

In ibadan you can't get less than 5k per meter. I think that's what I gave you.

kolnel:


Smaller rig means local rig
Whether local or Chinese, the drilling methodology remains the same
It's either a 5 or 7 bit that goes into the ground
Anyway I seriously doubt if any local rig can go 240 ft, I stand to be corrected tho

I will only advise you use the big Chinese rigs cos of that terrain
They do charge 5k per meters
80m will go for 400k
If they hit water before 80m, your change hoes into your pocket

Yea, you are inline sir. The local rigs are still different.

Larwin:


Smile, rig is just a tool be it big or small. A small rig can work perfectly than big rig. The size na just design. American rigs are compact, Indians rig are the big. To me it shouldn't affect the price dat much. If a small rig will get me a discount of 150k then what is the bigger rig doing in the market.

I don't know his intents but it doesn't sound too good.

No discounts in naija oo. Its a gimmick. Run a mile and check properly. This is how they get you hooked then once they get you in you are at their mercy

brag3:



No discounts in naija oo. Its a gimmick. Run a mile and check properly. This is how they get you hooked then once they get you in you are at their mercy

Bros, you are right.

I will like to say this, all issues with Maverick was resolved and both parties moved on and I have no bussiness with any worker at his site or regarding their payment. Thanks and regards to him

Demainman1:


Please what is barrel shipping? Na oil barrel? Pardon my ignorance

yes nah, or U 4got Im frm the Niger Delta ni
Seriously barrel as a container, U know the type use to import caustic soda.U fill it up wiv anything regardless of its weight it same cost to ship.

twinskenny:


Borehole na 140k for my area o

Bore hole plus pump in my area nah N95K

erico2k2:

Bore hole plus pump in my area nah N95K

Imagine you are so lucky sir..


Still waiting for your invite sir

@gabbytabby, @brag3, @Qc1, @mavverick, @mufutau55, @all
Good day madam/sirs,l
Please I need help and advice on getting wardrobes.
The bills I have been getting has been to say the least fantastically exorbitant.
practically half a million for 4 units!!!
Will appreciate you please sharing practical experiences on how to go about this without breaking the bank; block work in place; space already tiled just to put the wood and that's all
Thanks a lot.

twinskenny:


Imagine you are so lucky sir..


Still waiting for your invite sir

I just remember chey nah U be Mr wire

peaceland:
@gabbytabby, @brag3, @Qc1, @mavverick, @mufutau55, @all
Good day madam/sirs,l
Please I need help and advice on getting wardrobes.
The bills I have been getting has been to say the least fantastically exorbitant.
practically half a million for 4 units!!!
Will appreciate you please sharing practical experiences on how to go about this without breaking the bank; block work in place; space already tiled just to put the wood and that's all
Thanks a lot.

U will need to have a quality you want in mind then you chose the quantity, is this for personal or commercial use?