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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by bidexiii: 9:16pm On Sep 01, 2016
Henry240:


You guys should quite all the sentiments. This is simply the cost of war. Armies are set up not for us to post photos of them online posing, but to fight battles and win wars. The loss of personnel not withstanding, it is bound to happen.

Better now than never. Islamic terrorism was bound to reach Nigeria whether we approved of it or not, neither would the sparing the life of the murderous Mohammed Yusuf have change our current trajectory.


War was always going to come to us. Luckily we have a strong, equipped and experienced military by African standards to tackle this problem.


No harm done.

No sentiments here dude, am just wowed by that amount, what if Nigeria is not a oil producing state.
What about other expenses on military vehicles, repair and maintenance, every bomb and rocket fired and drop ed on BHT, logistics...etc. the list is endless.

And yet the present CAS is still doing a lot on infrastructure, bringing back old inserviceabled hardware back to life and training of airforce personnel overseas....etc.
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by bidexiii: 9:23pm On Sep 01, 2016
#TROOPERS....

Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by bidexiii: 9:33pm On Sep 01, 2016
Army: Forget Boko Haram’s videos, ‘original Shekau’ and ‘second Shekau’ are both dead

https://www.thecable.ng/army-forget-boko-harams-videos-original-shekau-and-second-shekau-are-both-dead
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Nobody: 9:34pm On Sep 01, 2016
bidexiii:


No sentiments here dude, am just wowed by that amount, what if Nigeria is not a oil producing state.
What about other expenses on military vehicles, repair and maintenance, every bomb and rocket fired and drop ed on BHT, logistics...etc. the list is endless.

And yet the present CAS is still doing a lot on infrastructure, bringing back old inserviceabled hardware back to life and training of airforce personnel overseas....etc.

Anyway, that figure is inflated. The Nigerian Air Force cannot spend that much money on aviation fuel alone.



It is either the figure is misrepresented or it is inflated/fraud.
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Nobody: 9:49pm On Sep 01, 2016
BlackBaron:

Not exactly sentiments especially for a country whose finances can be used to greater effect. Having a well equipped army does not mean you should sit easy and wait for the next miscreant to awaken and start trouble.

I disagree with your 'sentiment' about war would always come to us...
That's like implying a fight, destroy, rebuild in a repeated order.
We are back in the ND fighting similar issues successive governments fought against.

Some battles however need to be fought out, no doubt. Especially with the irredeemable terrorists.

I'm implying battles should be picked nipped wisely and not waiting for another to come from around the corner because you can fight them.

That figure on fuel consumption is either a misrepresentation or it's just plain fraud.


The Terrorism in the North was always going to come to Nigeria. All the ingredients for terrorist activity were present and thriving in the North. Religious fanaticism/extremism, high levels of intolerance, growing wahabbi madrassas, high levels of illiteracy and poverty. Uthman don fodio, "Mastestine", prevalent Kano riots. So as you can see, it was just a matter of time.


The issues in the ND are mainly centered on resource control, mainly political, with also very high levels of potential violence.


What i said was the war on terror was inescapable for Nigeria, so the talk of money spent on the insurgency which would have ordinarily being spent on Infrastructure really should not come up. We are fighting an Insurgency we could not have avoided.
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by BlackBaron: 10:06pm On Sep 01, 2016
Henry240:


That figure on fuel consumption is either a misrepresentation or it's just plain fraud.


The Terrorism in the North was always going to come to Nigeria. All the ingredients for terrorist activity were present and thriving in the North. Religious fanaticism/extremism, high levels of intolerance, growing wahabbi madrassas, high levels of illiteracy and poverty. Uthman don fodio, "Mastestine", prevalent Kano riots. So as you can see, it was just a matter of time.


The issues in the ND are mainly centered on resource control, mainly political, with also very high levels of potential violence.


What i said was the war on terror was inescapable for Nigeria, so the talk of money spent on the insurgency which would have ordinarily being spent on Infrastructure really should not come up. We are fighting an Insurgency we could not have avoided.
The point I'm making is that whilst the war in the North east was inevitable. The recurring war in the ND is avoidable. We have fought different reiterations of militants through the decades all fighting for the same thing. We keep choosing the harder option of paying off the often opportunistic miscreants rather than negotiating a lasting solution.

The repetitive military campaigns such as in the creeks is what I refer to. We smash them, ignore the problems...until another self styled 'liberation force' springs out from another rabbit hole.
For us to develop faster, we have to be able to sort this rather than fight, destroy, rebuild. Developed countries are not exactly sending their national armies to engage in pitted battles against their own citizens simply because state institutions have taken care or limited the possibilities of issues like ND militants ever happening.
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Nobody: 10:22pm On Sep 01, 2016
BlackBaron:

The point I'm making is that whilst the war in the North east was inevitable. The recurring war in the ND is avoidable. We have fought different reiterations of militants through the decades all fighting for the same thing. We keep choosing the harder option of paying off the often opportunistic miscreants rather than negotiating a lasting solution.

The repetitive military campaigns such as in the creeks is what I refer to. We smash them, ignore the problems...until another self styled 'liberation force' springs out from another rabbit hole.
For us to develop faster, we have to be able to sort this rather than fight, destroy, rebuild. Developed countries are not exactly sending their national armies to engage in pitted battles against their own citizens simply because state institutions have taken care or limited the possibilities of issues like ND militants ever happening.

There's no military operation in the ND yet, we've only seen mobilisation of some assets. So for now, we'll have to keep a keen eye and see how things progress.


In all, we are saying the same thing and are on same page.
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Litmus: 10:32pm On Sep 01, 2016
Thought JF17's are due third quarter...
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Nobody: 10:40pm On Sep 01, 2016
Litmus:
Thought JF17's are due third quarter...

The Air Force said, August/ September. We'll have to wait and see.


Meanwhile, the JF-17 was spotted training alongside and F/A-18 Hornet.

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by bidexiii: 11:05pm On Sep 01, 2016
Henry240:


The Air Force said, August/ September. We'll have to wait and see.


Meanwhile, the JF-17 was spotted training alongside and F/A-18 Hornet.

Can't wait for those birds and choppas, to come. Those bokos haven't seing anything yet compared to what is to come. The NAF is doing a very good job bombarding BHT camps.

And also I can't wait to see the airforce releasing the jf17 video aerial bombing.
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by bidexiii: 11:06pm On Sep 01, 2016
Litmus:
Thought JF17's are due third quarter...

Surely they must arrive these month.....IJN grin
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by bidexiii: 11:21pm On Sep 01, 2016
"Meanwhile, the JF-17 was spotted training alongside and F/A-18 Hornet"

@henry please where was these...?
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by bidexiii: 11:26pm On Sep 01, 2016
Nigeria Navy

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Fynline(m): 11:26pm On Sep 01, 2016

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=08DbZjmm7hs

Have you guys seen this video? i tot i had, just stumbled on it

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Litmus: 11:40pm On Sep 01, 2016
bidexiii:


Surely they must arrive these month.....IJN grin


All seems eerily quiet; i mean, one would think that if the aircraft were close to delivery, Pakistani bloggers would get wind of it and be bragging about it for the consumption of the Indians but oh no nothing, just silence. Was reading on beegeagles twitter, @gbash reporting exciting news he saw on a Pakistan forum about the aircraft until beegs pointed out that the Pakistan forum was in effect referring to old defunct information.


The GBASH link:

http://defence.pk/threads/nigeria-prepares-for-the-arrival-of-jf-17s-mushaks.433994/
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by bidexiii: 12:46am On Sep 02, 2016
Fynline:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=08DbZjmm7hs

Have you guys seen this video? i tot i had, just stumbled on it

Just finished downloading it nice video.
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Nobody: 1:19am On Sep 02, 2016
bidexiii:
Nigeria Navy
The boat captain vex ? Is this one of those isreali made shaldag patrol boats ?
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Nobody: 7:04am On Sep 02, 2016
bidexiii:


Can't wait for those birds and choppas, to come. Those bokos haven't seing anything yet compared to what is to come. The NAF is doing a very good job bombarding BHT camps.

And also I can't wait to see the airforce releasing the jf17 video aerial bombing.

Man.... You and me both!

NAF is chasing BHT to anywhere they are. They just can't hide.

Hopefully NAF purchases a Targeting Pod as well.
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Nobody: 7:05am On Sep 02, 2016
bidexiii:
"Meanwhile, the JF-17 was spotted training alongside and F/A-18 Hornet"

@henry please where was these...?

Malaysian and Kuwati F/A-18 hornets training alongside the JF-17 in Kuwait.
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Nobody: 7:07am On Sep 02, 2016
jakeporeshenko:
The boat captain vex ? Is this one of those isreali made shaldag patrol boats ?
That's the MK-III version of the Shaldag. We operate both MK-II and MK-III.
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by bidexiii: 7:12am On Sep 02, 2016
jakeporeshenko:

The boat captain vex ? Is this one of those isreali made shaldag patrol boats ?

.. grin shocked grin. The captain dey paraa
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by bidexiii: 7:13am On Sep 02, 2016
Henry240:


Malaysian and Kuwati F/A-18 hornets training alongside the JF-17 in Kuwait.

Tnks.
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Nobody: 7:14am On Sep 02, 2016
bidexiii:


.. grin shocked grin. The captain dey paraa

On closer inspection, I don't think that's a Nigerian boat. The sailors look Israeli to me.
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by bidexiii: 7:18am On Sep 02, 2016
#AFSF

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by bidexiii: 7:37am On Sep 02, 2016
Henry240:


On closer inspection, I don't think that's a Nigerian boat. The sailors look Israeli to me.

That's a NN vessel.

-firstly the naval personnel on the vessel are all black personnels,though the picture is somehow blunt but look closely very well.

- those personnel are wearing the traditional light navy blue on dark blue, the Israeli navy either wear the white on white or light brown on light brown on ship.

- then the NN has these tradition of arming the light vessel and gun boats with grenade launchers, which is visible in the front.
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by bidexiii: 7:42am On Sep 02, 2016
Boko Haram: "Shekau is dead," - Nigerian Army insist -


http://scholarspost.com/boko-haram-shekau-is-dead-nigerian-army-insist
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Nobody: 8:16am On Sep 02, 2016
bidexiii:


That's a NN vessel.

-firstly the naval personnel on the vessel are all black personnels,though the picture is somehow blunt but look closely very well.

- those personnel are wearing the traditional light navy blue on dark blue, the Israeli navy either wear the white on white or light brown on light brown on ship.

- then the NN has these tradition of arming the light vessel and gun boats with grenade launchers, which is visible in the front.

That's the issue.

- The guy in dark blue, close to the radar post is not black.

- Here are NN Shaldag MK II (manually operated main gun) and remotely operated 25mm x2 Cannon. We do not operate the Typhoon RWS.


*Nigerian navy Shaldag MK II

* Navy Shaldag MK III

Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Nobody: 8:27am On Sep 02, 2016
bidexiii:


That's a NN vessel.

the front.

The funny thing is, that's not even a Shaldag, it's a Super Dvora class patrol boat. We don't have the Super Dvora in service.

Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by bidexiii: 8:58am On Sep 02, 2016

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=08DbZjmm7hs

Guys you must watch these video, tester night when I finished downloading it, I just skipped through the video because it's about 43 mind video.

It shows every thing about the lives of troops in sambisa forest & CION.

At the beginning of the video soldiers where digging for water when they came under fire by BHT but they repelled the attack. Accidentally it looks like there was a friendly fire or a soldier being mistakenly ran of by a MBT.

Another part of the video I like is the tactical movement in which troops move inside Sambisa and the position of the MBT,MRAPs and Gun trucks are stationed in area of operation in case of attack.

And in the video, it shows how the NAF helps.in logistics supplies and evacuation of rescued civilians through air assets. A Lot of things you get to see in the video.

Big ups @fynline for these.....!
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by giles14(m): 10:04am On Sep 02, 2016
bidexiii:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=08DbZjmm7hs

Guys you must watch these video, tester night when I finished downloading it, I just skipped through the video because it's about 43 mind video.

It shows every thing about the lives of troops in sambisa forest & CION.

At the beginning of the video soldiers where digging for water when they came under fire by BHT but they repelled the attack. Accidentally it looks like there was a friendly fire or a soldier being mistakenly ran of by a MBT.

Another part of the video I like is the tactical movement in which troops move inside Sambisa and the position of the MBT,MRAPs and Gun trucks are stationed in area of operation in case of attack.

And in the video, it shows how the NAF helps.in logistics supplies and evacuation of rescued civilians through air assets. A Lot of things you get to see in the video.

Big ups @fynline for these.....!
I totally agree with u was a great enlightenment.

but 4 things disappointed me.
1.d Vickers tanks we need to replace dem
2.d destruction of grains wen we have starving n malnourished children in IDP camps
3.lack of proper communication gadgets eg firing on advanced troops which if der was good radio communication would b avoided.
4.lastly d Augusta 109 light skin choppers have no business dere.d commander towards d end was speaking of d chopper being fired at.dis ought to b d job of d super puma or maybe d mi17.


over all it was nice seeing d stuff our troops was made of.
more of dis videos are needed pls.
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Nobody: 12:02pm On Sep 02, 2016
Fynline:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=08DbZjmm7hs

Have you guys seen this video? i tot i had, just stumbled on it

This is by far the best and most authentic video i've watched all year. I'm so proud of our military. Yes there are issues, but it doesn't matter, we have a very strong military all Nigerians can be proud of.



P.S, the army should try reduce the number of Hilux vehicles now, although the Hilux is very well armed with a ballistic shield in-front of the 12.7mm gunner.


I particularly enjoyed the humor of the blokes.

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by bidexiii: 12:19pm On Sep 02, 2016
giles14:
I totally agree with u was a great enlightenment.

but 4 things disappointed me.
1.d Vickers tanks we need to replace dem
2.d destruction of grains wen we have starving n malnourished children in IDP camps
3.lack of proper communication gadgets eg firing on advanced troops which if der was good radio communication would b avoided.
4.lastly d Augusta 109 light skin choppers have no business dere.d commander towards d end was speaking of d chopper being fired at.dis ought to b d job of d super puma or maybe d mi17.


over all it was nice seeing d stuff our troops was made of.
more of dis videos are needed pls.

I agree with u hernry on the video and am proud of our frontline troops.

I agree with you giles14 but what do you do when you are shot of the proper assets. What's make you excel in what ever you do is not much and better things you av available to you but how good you make of the little you have.

Even the developed army can't av it all.

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