oga oh this is an acidic rubbish!!! any where i no blame the pastor ooh na because of the present situation of change, the pastor needs to buy a new car.

An2elect2:
Dear if you believe we are suppose to tithe, you have been deceived.

Here is a thread that extensively dealt with the lies of tithing
www.nairaland.com/2960906/tithe-not-tithe-whole-truth

But Jesus nevr came to destroy the law, but so that through Him the law will be fulfilled...

HMZi:
oga,i no dey 4 this kind parole.....

Why?

If I were a member of that church, from that day henceforth, I will not only stop paying my tithe, but will also stop giving offering. Maybe the pastor will call me popo or sue me to court. Rubbish

like seriously churches they perform wonders o! imagine this one again,collecting from the poor so as to get richer.

AlexzStructure:

Why?

z... Bros na waste of time,nobody ever got paid.

firstolalekan:
Scammers everywhere

War or Peace?

EXO 15:3 The LORD is a man of war: the LORD is his name.
ROM 15:33 Now the God of peace be with you all. Amen.


The shape of the earth

ISA 40:22 It is he that sitteth upon the circle of the earth, and the inhabitants thereof are as grasshoppers; that stretcheth out the heavens as a curtain, and spreadeth them out as a tent to dwell in:
MAT 4:8 Again, the devil taketh him up into an exceeding high mountain, and sheweth him all the kingdoms of the world, and the glory of them;
Astronomical bodies are spherical, and you cannot see the entire exterior surface from anyplace. The kingdoms of Egypt, China, Greece, Crete, sections of Asia Minor, India, Maya (in Mexico), Carthage (North Africa), Rome (Italy), Korea, and other settlements from these kingdoms of the world were widely distributed.

Can't blame you at all coz its a prophecy that such thing would happen and ur reasoning about mat 4:8 is just too shallow. dear, pick a hubby rather than looking for ways to condemn an holy book.

Dshocker:
Churches like this doesn't preach about salvation & members should have no second thought of leaving/running away from such premises

But how do they identify those who don't pay? Hmmm.

scopiicaar:
Can't blame you at all coz its a prophecy that such thing would happen and ur reasoning about mat 4:8 is just too shallow. dear, pick a hubby rather than looking for ways to condemn an holy book.

It's you and your likes that have a shallow thinking

Word of God my ass
Abi compiled fiction story. God can never make mistake
Your bible is filled with many stupíd bullshiťs.
E.g

Ascend to heaven

"And Elijah went up by a whirlwind into heaven." (2KI 2:11)
"No man hath ascended up to heaven but he that came down from heaven, ... the Son of Man." (JOH 3:13)

Judging

1 Cor 2:15 "The spiritual man makes judgments about all things, but he himself is not subject to any man's judgment:" (NIV)
1 Cor 4:5 "Therefore judge nothing before the appointed time; wait till the Lord comes. He will bring to light what is hidden in darkness and will expose the motives of men's hearts. At that time each will receive his praise from God."

Judging

1 Cor 2:15 "The spiritual man makes judgments about all things, but he himself is not subject to any man's judgment:" (NIV)
1 Cor 4:5 "Therefore judge nothing before the appointed time; wait till the Lord comes. He will bring to light what is hidden in darkness and will expose the motives of men's hearts. At that time each will receive his praise from God."


Do you answer a fool?

PRO 26:4 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest thou also be like unto him.
PRO 26:5 Answer a fool according to his folly, lest he be wise in his own conceit.

herzern:
Thouqh......The Church took it to the extreme buh Tithe-payinq is necessary....

Read the book of Malachi....

The Church pays tithes from the tithe they also collect.....they feed widows and orphans!.....




ATHEISTS.......PLEASE DONT QUOTE ME

church that build shop and hall for rent...even some members cannot afford to pay for the shop or hall or school built by the church.... there are a lot of things in the old testament that we don't do today. My question is why do we cherry pick?

*sigh*

So many ungodly practices in today's churches.

Even cult fee drive neva reach like dis

Ishilove:
*sigh*

So many ungodly practices in today's churches.

What's ungodly a out liking money more than your church members?

Lol. Someone has been studying more of aggressive debt recovery strategies than the Bible.

Genesis2000:

But how do they identify those who don't pay? Hmmm.

I am guessing they have a database. All the leading businesses do.

herald9:
Now tithing is compulsory.... Just like paying school fees
The Pastor should rusticate those who doesn't pay up.
Do they think it's easy to brainwash people?

Jidibia:
If I were a member of that church, from that day henceforth, I will not only stop paying my tithe, but will also stop giving offering. Maybe the pastor will call me popo or sue me to court. Rubbish

Defaulters could be smitten dead for 'stealing from God' like that couple in the Bible... I forget their names.

firstolalekan:
If I denounce my religion today, Christianity is the LAST religion I can think joining,
It's such a joke of a religion. Very confused sets of people.
Even within them, they never agree with each other's doctrines.
They have the most different denominations within them with very different believes. They use several types of bible
(Jehova withness, Catholic, deeper life, olumbaolumba etc) different interpretations in those bibles.
In my opinion, John is a deluded drunkard, king James committee members are all confused drunkards.
The other day, I was fooling with a Jehova withness and a
deeper members that came to my house to preach, I so confused them with different questions and they all made mess of themselves. They became so confused, they disagreed and agued with each other.
At the end of the day, they left ky housein shame.

God will open your eyes my dear. Stop criticizing denominatn,God will judge every human with the Bible. Different people may give different explanatn of d Bible to suit their selfish desires but the Bible remains d true word of the creature God. If you need proper understanding of the Bible Accept Jesus as your Lord and Savior then Divine illuminatn from heaven will come on you. The carnal mind can never, never understand the things and way of God. My friend don't allow false prophets to deceive you. There are groups that devil springs up deceiving people.some goes to church but refuse to live the life that qualifies them for heaven.

God will not judge you by fellow humans but by His word (the Bible), no excuses in heaven, no shifting of blames in heaven. God said He will not strife with Man, Man is a free moral agent, he won't choose for you,He has put down the word read it and choose (either Truth or False, Life or Death) it's up to you.I advice you to choose life (Acknowledge your sinfulness, Confess them,Repent and forsake them,Tell Jesus to come into your heart and stay) thats all,God do not require anything from you. God bless you my dear friend.

Farmerforlife:
Lol. Someone has been studying more of aggressive debt recovery strategies than the Bible.



I am guessing they have a database. All the leading businesses do.



Defaulters could be smitten dead for 'stealing from God' like that couple in the Bible... I forget their names.

I think ur right. Most of them uses tithe card which must be remited every Month. So from there they will know those who comply and those who don't.

But this suppose to be a case between God and man since it is God they Rob. Lol or don't you think so?

I have stop paying tithe for a very long time now when i discovered that it is longer relevant to Christians.

onismate:
Chaiiiii, How this church embarrassed some of their members by publishing the list of members who don't pay their tithes.

http://www.hovabuzz.com/frontline/1203-church-publishes-names-of-their-non-tithers-on-their-notice-board

Is it a Kenyan church?

Read the book of Deut 14vs 22 - 26 and thank me later

twosquare:
Jesus will soon come with His whip like He did in the Temple.

He is already whipping those pickpockets called pastors.

HMZi:
z... Bros na waste of time,nobody ever got paid.

Ok....

herzern:
Thouqh......The Church took it to the extreme buh Tithe-payinq is necessary....

Read the book of Malachi....

The Church pays tithes from the tithe they also collect.....they feed widows and orphans!.....




ATHEISTS.......PLEASE DONT QUOTE ME

Nowadays pastors use tithe to purchase private jets and luxury

ritzyvic1:
I visited my villa one-day and saw similar stuff. During question time, I took the Mic and asked the pastor if the bible didn't say that when our right hand gives the left shouldn't know about it. He gave some nonsense answer. I left and I haven't paid thithe there since that year.
Who cares

NFCS does

ritzyvic1:
I visited my villa one-day and saw similar stuff. During question time, I took the Mic and asked the pastor if the bible didn't say that when our right hand gives the left shouldn't know about it. He gave some nonsense answer. I left and I haven't paid thithe there since that year.
Who cares

NFCS does

This not new, it happens in so many churches

firstolalekan:
If I denounce my religion today, Christianity is the LAST religion I can think joining,
It's such a joke of a religion. Very confused sets of people.
Even within them, they never agree with each other's doctrines.
They have the most different denominations within them with very different believes. They use several types of bible
(Jehova withness, Catholic, deeper life, olumbaolumba etc) different interpretations in those bibles.
In my opinion, John is a deluded drunkard, king James committee members are all confused drunkards.
The other day, I was fooling with a Jehova withness and a deeper members that came to my house to preach, I so confused them with different questions and they all made mess of themselves. They became so confused, they disagreed and agued with each other.
At the end of the day, they left my house in shame.

Son of Mohammed, the paedophile! Your Quran is nothing but a conspiracy to cover-up lies from the pit of hell. On creation of the earth, it says in less than one day Sura 41 verse 9, in verse 10 it recorded two days, in verse 12 it mentioned seven heavens that were created in two days. When Mohammed heard of Biblical account of six days, he quickly used Sura 7:54, 10:3 and 32:4 to cover the lies. Which son did God promised Abraham, the Quran says Isaq (Isaac) in Sura 11:69-73, but the Islamic world did a cover-up that it was Ishmael. Another lie that the Quran descended from heaven, far from it, it was inscribed on pieces of papyrus, flat stones, shoulder blades and ribs of animals, pieces of leather, wooden boards, bark of trees and so on. It was later compiled at about thirty years after the death of Mohammed on the order of Abu Bakr, who was the Khalif. When Umar became the Khalif, he continued the project and kept it with Hafsah his daughter who was Mohammed's wife. The text of ibn Mas'ud deemed to be the most reliable was ignored. On the authority of Anas ibn Maalik, many sects developed because of various versions. Zaid ibn Thabith headed the editorial board that edited the Quran and produced a single copy. Other manuscript which were compiled and being recited in Syria, Iraq and Armenia were retrieved and destroyed. More facts still to come on satanic religion called Islam.

firstolalekan:

No one cares indeed
Some of are just plainly
you find it very difficult to comprehend simple statements.
No one cares but theykeep coming to my house for nonsense gospel every Sunday

k

Who is God's Banker and wha are' the account and BVN Nos?

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confiritch:
Son of Mohammed, the paedophile! Your Quran is nothing but a conspiracy to cover-up lies from the pit of hell. On creation of the earth, it says in less than one day Sura 41 verse 9, in verse 10 it recorded two days, in verse 12 it mentioned seven heavens that were created in two days. When Mohammed heard of Biblical account of six days, he quickly used Sura 7:54, 10:3 and 32:4 to cover the lies. Which son did God promised Abraham, the Quran says Isaq (Isaac) in Sura 11:69-73, but the Islamic world did a cover-up that it was Ishmael. Another lie that the Quran descended from heaven, far from it, it was inscribed on pieces of papyrus, flat stones, shoulder blades and ribs of animals, pieces of leather, wooden boards, bark of trees and so on. It was later compiled at about thirty years after the death of Mohammed on the order of Abu Bakr, who was the Khalif. When Umar became the Khalif, he continued the project and kept it with Hafsah his daughter who was Mohammed's wife. The text of ibn Mas'ud deemed to be the most reliable was ignored. On the authority of Anas ibn Maalik, many sects developed because of various versions. Zaid ibn Thabith headed the editorial board that edited the Quran and produced a single copy. Other manuscript which were compiled and being recited in Syria, Iraq and Armenia were retrieved and destroyed. More facts still to come on satanic religion called Islam.

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Utter rubbish from tge ignorant prick
You must be very confused
You sounded like a plain pained looser
Na me say make them write rubbish full una senseless story book (bible)
Explain this rubbish.

The Order of Creation
Genesis 1:11-12 and 1:26-27 Trees came before Adam.
Genesis 2:4-9 Trees came after Adam.

Genesis 1:20-21 and 26-27 Birds were created before Adam.
Genesis 2:7 and 2:19 Birds were created after Adam.

Genesis 1:24-27 Animals were created before Adam.
Genesis 2:7 and 2:19 Animals were created after Adam.

Genesis 1:26-27 Adam and Eve were created at the same time.
Genesis 2:7 and 2:21-22 Adam was created first, woman sometime later.

Other Issues in the Garden
Genesis 1:31 God was pleased with his creation.
Genesis 6:5-6 God was not pleased with his creation.
Which raises the question, how can an omnipotent, omniscient God create something he’s not pleased with?

Genesis 2:3 Then God blessed the seventh day and made it holy, because on it he rested from all the work of creating that he had done.
An omnipotent being required…rest?

Genesis 2:16-17 And the Lord God commanded the man, "You are free to eat from any tree in the garden; but you must not eat from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, for when you eat of it you will surely die."
God placed temptation in the direct path of his two naïve children and allowed them to be tempted by the serpent (Genesis 3: 1-7), resulting in a single mistake that would contaminate hundreds of billions with a sin nature worthy of eternal torture?

Genesis 3:1 Now the serpent was more crafty than any of the wild animals the LORD God had made. He said to the woman, "Did God really say, ’You must not eat from any tree in the garden’?"
A talking snake. Enough said.
How Did Judas Die?
Matthew 27:3-8: Then Judas, which had betrayed him (Jesus), when he saw that he was condemned, repented himself, and brought again the thirty pieces of silver to the chief priests and elders. Saying, I have sinned in that I have betrayed the innocent blood. And they said, What is that to us? See thou to that. And he cast down the pieces of silver in the temple, and departed, and went and hanged himself. And the chief priests took the silver pieces and said, It is not lawful for to put them into the treasury, because it is the price of blood. And they took counsel, and bought with them the potter’s field, to bury strangers in. Wherefore, that field was called "The Field of Blood" unto this day.
Judas hanged himself

Acts 1:16-19: Men and brethren, this scripture must needs have been fulfilled, which the Holy Ghost by the mouth of David spake before concerning Judas, which was guide to them that took Jesus. For he was numbered with us, and had obtained part of this ministry. Now this man purchased a field with the reward of iniquity; and falling headlong, he burst asunder in the midst, and all his bowels gushed out. And it was known unto all the dwellers at Jerusalem; insomuch as that field is called in their proper tongue, Aceldama, that is to say, The Field of Blood.
Judas bought a field, fell down and his intestines spilled out.

Who is the Ruler of the Earth?
John 12:31: Now is the time for judgment on this world; now the prince of this world will be driven out. Satan is the ruler, or prince, of this world.

1 Corinthians 10:26: for, "The earth is the Lord’s, and everything in it."
The earth, and its possessions, belong to The Lord.

Revelation 1:5: Grace and peace to you from him who is, and who was, and who is to come, and from the seven spirits before his throne, and from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, the firstborn from the dead, and the ruler of the kings of the earth.

Jesus is the ruler of the earth.
Is Jesus the Same As God?
John 10:30: I and my father are one.
Jesus is God.

John 14:28: I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I.
God is greater than Jesus
YOUR BIBLE IS A VERY CONFUSED FUNNY STORY BOOK

firstolalekan:
If I denounce my religion today, Christianity is the LAST religion I can think joining,
It's such a joke of a religion. Very confused sets of people.
Even within them, they never agree with each other's doctrines.
They have the most different denominations within them with very different believes. They use several types of bible
(Jehova withness, Catholic, deeper life, olumbaolumba etc) different interpretations in those bibles.
In my opinion, John is a deluded drunkard, king James committee members are all confused drunkards.
The other day, I was fooling with a Jehova withness and a deeper members that came to my house to preach, I so confused them with different questions and they all made mess of themselves. They became so confused, they disagreed and agued with each other.
At the end of the day, they left my house in shame.

Continuation of the lies and conspiracy of the Quran. Several portions of the present Quran are wrongly worded to undermine the Shi'te beliefs. They are: Sura 13:12, 23:39 and 11:20. The Quran that was compiled by Ubayy ibn Kab being used in Syria has additional two Suras, Surat al-Hafd and Surat al-Khal. The version of Ibn Masu'd did not have chapters 1, 113 and 114 of the present Quran. The Surat al-Saff (Sura 61) has about 200 verses, but after the revision by Uthman, only 72 verses survived and presently it has only 14 verses. Surat Baiyina (Sura 98) has about 286 verses, but today it is left with 8 verses. The Quran itself warns that all those who reject the Jewish and Christian scriptures will be severely punished after death (Sura 40:72-73). If Muslims are in doubt of what Allah revealed to them, they should ask Jews and Christians who have read the scriptures before them (Sura 10:94).

Where man d work na there him go chop ooo

firstolalekan:
If I denounce my religion today, Christianity is the LAST religion I can think joining,
It's such a joke of a religion. Very confused sets of people.
Even within them, they never agree with each other's doctrines.
They have the most different denominations within them with very different believes. They use several types of bible
(Jehova withness, Catholic, deeper life, olumbaolumba etc) different interpretations in those bibles.
In my opinion, John is a deluded drunkard, king James committee members are all confused drunkards.
The other day, I was fooling with a Jehova withness and a deeper members that came to my house to preach, I so confused them with different questions and they all made mess of themselves. They became so confused, they disagreed and agued with each other.
At the end of the day, they left my house in shame.

Truth is you are not in a position to cast stones at Christianity. Take that advice and be at peace with yourself. Bi eyin awo ba lewo, enu adiye ko la o ti gbo.

Christianity and So klin(detergent) na the same thing but the only difference between the two is that the latter is used for washing clothes. While the former is used for WASHING BRAINS.