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Re: Tragedy Of An Unthinking Agitation: The Case Of The Niger-delta Militants by davidif: 10:11am On Sep 12, 2016 |
Chiznonso: Good question but what you should be asking is why should the govt be controlling resources in the first place? Is it in there job description? Isn't it there job to monitor and to make sure everyone is following the rules? The govt (be it central, state or local) should have no business getting involved in the oil business or controlling resources that's the job of the free market. We are not socialists for goodness sakes. While i recognize the fact that local govts should be compensated in terms of royalties that should be the limit of govt intervention (that is unless there is environmental pollution). In a nutshell what i am saying is that govt (be it state or central) need to get there hands out of resource control and leave it to private enterprise. Until we learn private property rights and the power of the free markets in this country, the country might not reach its potential. I have said it before and i would say it again, STATISM does not work. [size=14pt]stat·ism[/size] ˈstātˌizəm/Submit noun a political system in which the state has substantial centralized control over social and economic affairs. Example: Nigeria practices statism. Another example: Statism has failed woefully in Nigeria. 2 Likes |
Re: Tragedy Of An Unthinking Agitation: The Case Of The Niger-delta Militants by Ugosample(m): 10:11am On Sep 12, 2016 |
Who has the list id oil block owners pls.. The original list To be sure that Indeed, Hausa owns most of the blocks. #justasking |
Re: Tragedy Of An Unthinking Agitation: The Case Of The Niger-delta Militants by LorDBolton(m): 10:17am On Sep 12, 2016 |
signz: Lol |
Re: Tragedy Of An Unthinking Agitation: The Case Of The Niger-delta Militants by Nobody: 10:18am On Sep 12, 2016 |
Chiznonso:you have a long way to go. He became the president and what did he do differently? The man made sensible point. We have likes of genesis, promise today because of the liberalism that once existed. How many multinational oil companies are still in warri? Baker, halli, schlum, Mi swaco, bj services and all before mergers had offices in warri. Field workers were mobilised from warri then. It's only in ph now. Why didn't they shut down their offices in lagos? Keep on, let's see where this will lead the ND. 4 Likes |
Re: Tragedy Of An Unthinking Agitation: The Case Of The Niger-delta Militants by Ugosample(m): 10:19am On Sep 12, 2016 |
Yyeske: LMAO 1 Like |
Re: Tragedy Of An Unthinking Agitation: The Case Of The Niger-delta Militants by davidif: 10:21am On Sep 12, 2016 |
newbornmacho: Dude, that's like saying because everyone around me is cheating and stealing therefore my crimes are not that bad. Bros, don't decieve yourself, its all the same. What i am simply trying to say is that with the money the Niger Delta is getting there has been hardly any improvements so why all the clamor for more money? Do you trust the same leaders who embezzled the little they were getting to be faithful and prudent with more? Also, you have still not answered my initial question? Why are you still not holding your local and state leaders accountable? 6 Likes |
Re: Tragedy Of An Unthinking Agitation: The Case Of The Niger-delta Militants by obailala(m): 10:22am On Sep 12, 2016 |
signz:A lot of people who have never stepped foot in a place like Warri obviously do not get the message the writer is passing across. The point being made is that if agitations must be done, there are smarter ways to agitate without blowing your own feet off. This case isn't all about oil because not only oil companies are caught in this mess. Just mid last year, Shoprite which has opened numerous branches in different parts of Nigeria launched a new branch in Warri. After the whole funfair and all, just in a matter of months, the services of shoprite warri were disrupted, the place was vandalised and looted by the same rampaging youths and these are the exact acts many oblivious folks rush online to ddefend and glorify because they think everything is about oil and everything is about hausa or what not. The point here is simple, the social problem goes way beyond oil. 9 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Tragedy Of An Unthinking Agitation: The Case Of The Niger-delta Militants by SuperS1Panther: 10:24am On Sep 12, 2016 |
Chiznonso: Ironsi took the resource control away in 1966. How about that. 3 Likes |
Re: Tragedy Of An Unthinking Agitation: The Case Of The Niger-delta Militants by davidif: 10:31am On Sep 12, 2016 |
SuperS1Panther: [size=14pt]stat·ism[/size] ˈstātˌizəm/Submit noun a political system in which the state has substantial centralized control over social and economic affairs. Example: Nigeria practices statism. Another example: Statism has failed woefully in Nigeria. The govt (be it central, state or local) should have no business getting involved in the oil business or controlling resources that's the job of the free market. We are not socialists for goodness sakes. While i recognize the fact that local govts should be compensated in terms of royalties that should be the limit of govt intervention (that is unless there is environmental pollution). In a nutshell what i am saying is that govt (be it state or central) need to get there hands out of resource control and leave it to private enterprise that way we create jobs and economic prosperity. Until we learn private property rights and the power of the free markets in this country, the country might not reach its potential. I have said it before and i would say it again, STATISM does not work. 1 Like |
Re: Tragedy Of An Unthinking Agitation: The Case Of The Niger-delta Militants by Chiznonso: 10:33am On Sep 12, 2016 |
SuperS1Panther: Lolz, he only ruled for 6 months out of 33 years, so U are telling out of the 32.5 years, nobody had common sense to do what's right, even Buhari which ruled for 3 years out of it. 1 Like |
Re: Tragedy Of An Unthinking Agitation: The Case Of The Niger-delta Militants by Nobody: 10:37am On Sep 12, 2016 |
chukzyblingz:omo onile will not blow up a company because he knows that's where his choppings is coming from. He is wise about his business. This is the difference. 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Tragedy Of An Unthinking Agitation: The Case Of The Niger-delta Militants by rusher14: 10:42am On Sep 12, 2016 |
Ugosample: We are tired of posting the list. If you are really interested you can do a little research through the platform or others. 1 Like |
Re: Tragedy Of An Unthinking Agitation: The Case Of The Niger-delta Militants by Nobody: 10:46am On Sep 12, 2016 |
amagunnerfan: On point at bolded. Majority of the militants' supporters are not from ND and don't mean well for them. They probably want to use them to score political points. I'm happy some of them know this. 5 Likes |
Re: Tragedy Of An Unthinking Agitation: The Case Of The Niger-delta Militants by Chiznonso: 10:47am On Sep 12, 2016 |
majekdom2: E be like say U no sabi Omonile, people that sell a piece of land to like 3 differnet people, they are ready for any trouble 1 Like |
Re: Tragedy Of An Unthinking Agitation: The Case Of The Niger-delta Militants by Nobody: 10:51am On Sep 12, 2016 |
Chiznonso:Crap. The people that buy land from omo onile are the greedy one themselves. Does selling land to 3 different people by omo onile justify crime? You sense of reasoning is appalling. 2 Likes |
Re: Tragedy Of An Unthinking Agitation: The Case Of The Niger-delta Militants by newbornmacho(m): 10:53am On Sep 12, 2016 |
davidif:What do you mean by holding accountable?? The youth are revolting against the entire arrangement that short changes their region including state and local level politicians. The corrupt systems of state have been designed by the same people you expect it to be used against. You think the governors and LGA chairmen are enjoying militancy? When tyranny becomes the law rebellion becomes a duty. Besides you are avoiding the big picture: Hausa fulani coopted the Yoruba in a game of numbers to loot the delta. They created the laws, decided the boundaries, ceded bakassi, refuse even to negotiate and you want the militants to do what? Clap for you? Be real. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Tragedy Of An Unthinking Agitation: The Case Of The Niger-delta Militants by Chiznonso: 10:53am On Sep 12, 2016 |
obailala: Who started the rampaging 1st? Isnt it the Govt, which was collecting all the Oil profits, until 1999, that they fought for their 13% derivation, for 30 years straight, no derivation, do U even think the ND stakeholders has any say in the allocation of Oil assets, were they even on the negotiating table? Baba pack well, U get what U sow Folks 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Tragedy Of An Unthinking Agitation: The Case Of The Niger-delta Militants by Chiznonso: 10:55am On Sep 12, 2016 |
davidif: Is it not the same Nigeria that Abuja was transformed from a Village to 2nd largest city built with Oil Dollars, do that same Magic to Niger Delta 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Tragedy Of An Unthinking Agitation: The Case Of The Niger-delta Militants by SuperS1Panther: 10:57am On Sep 12, 2016 |
Chiznonso: That does not take away the fact that he cancelled our working regionalism of then which had resource control and introduced the devilish unitary system because the Igbos had a grand plan of lording it over others. He did all that evil to our nation just within 6months of his ethno-centric rule. What would have happened, if he had ruled for 3years 4 Likes |
Re: Tragedy Of An Unthinking Agitation: The Case Of The Niger-delta Militants by SuperS1Panther: 11:04am On Sep 12, 2016 |
Chiznonso: Niger Delta should do that from the following: Faac Jaac 13% derivation NDDC Ministry of Niger Delta CSRs of Oil majors. The same way FCT developed with her own share of the Federal Allocation without 13% derivation. 2 Likes |
Re: Tragedy Of An Unthinking Agitation: The Case Of The Niger-delta Militants by obailala(m): 11:09am On Sep 12, 2016 |
Chiznonso:My Chiznonso, I have read through several of your comments on this thread. I'm afraid, I wouldn't be able to stoop to your mental level to engage in any form of exchange with you. My sincere apologies, thanks. 9 Likes |
Re: Tragedy Of An Unthinking Agitation: The Case Of The Niger-delta Militants by davidif: 11:09am On Sep 12, 2016 |
Chiznonso: First of all, Abuja is a city. The Niger Delta is an entire region. Big difference. Secondly, the administration of the F.C.T did wonders with the city of Abuja. Why can't any city administrator or local govt chairman do the same with with at least one city in the Niger Delta region? Thirdly, you still have not answered my initial question? Why aren't you holding your local and state govt officials accountable for embezzling the allocation they get. 5 Likes |
Re: Tragedy Of An Unthinking Agitation: The Case Of The Niger-delta Militants by Chiznonso: 11:13am On Sep 12, 2016 |
majekdom2: Oil companies paying all the money to FG without insisting on the derivation for the ND people, which they had to agitate for themselves are like those WHO BUY LAND FROM OMONILES 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Tragedy Of An Unthinking Agitation: The Case Of The Niger-delta Militants by davidif: 11:14am On Sep 12, 2016 |
newbornmacho: Omo! see reasoning. Guy, you can't cut your finger off just to punish your hand now. Na yourself you dey do. Chei! naija mentality na wa o. First of all, when you blow up a pipeline, you destroy the environment rendering it useless for Agricultural production for maybe a hundred years according to scientific estimates. Secondly, Nigeria's number 1 export is oil which means that when production is disrupted the economy is affected making a tough economic situation worse for everyone including those in the Niger Delta (the region you are concerned about). You see Nigeria imports a lot of things which means that when the economy tanks and value of the naira goes down goods become expensive (inflation) making things not only worse for almost everyone in the country (including those in the Niger Delta) so you see that at the end of the day, you are punishing the same region that you claim to be looking out for. Isn't it sad? 2 Likes |
Re: Tragedy Of An Unthinking Agitation: The Case Of The Niger-delta Militants by cocoduck: 11:19am On Sep 12, 2016 |
obailala:Please kindly give us a list of smarter ways, sometimes you people act like we were born today. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Tragedy Of An Unthinking Agitation: The Case Of The Niger-delta Militants by donborg(m): 11:19am On Sep 12, 2016 |
Chiznonso:there is no reaction without an action and vice versa. When u see a river flowing uphill, know ye that a debt is being repaid.....48 laws of power 1 Like |
Re: Tragedy Of An Unthinking Agitation: The Case Of The Niger-delta Militants by cocoduck: 11:22am On Sep 12, 2016 |
davidif:Your analogy is totally wrong, a child that says its mother won't sleep will not sleep. You exploit every thing there and expect them to be good school children, for wusai 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Tragedy Of An Unthinking Agitation: The Case Of The Niger-delta Militants by donborg(m): 11:25am On Sep 12, 2016 |
davidif:the administration of FCT did wonders indeed. Let them do d same WONDERS in warri naa abi Warri naNiger delta region.mtcheeew. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Tragedy Of An Unthinking Agitation: The Case Of The Niger-delta Militants by newbornmacho(m): 11:26am On Sep 12, 2016 |
davidif:But you know its true. You teamed up in a war to ensure your access to oil without any consideration for the owners true or false? You allocate oil blocks without consideration for the owners true or false? What have you even done for this region? Be honest. The wasteful profligate lifestyle of the bourgeoisie in this country is at the expense of this region with nothing absolutely nothing given in return. They've had enough. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Tragedy Of An Unthinking Agitation: The Case Of The Niger-delta Militants by signz: 11:28am On Sep 12, 2016 |
obailala: They had a Ken Saro Wiwa with his non violent agitation. What happened to him? The neglect of that region by successive FG's in connivance with local chiefs turned that place into a den of militants. I believe if the root cause is addressed, everything will fall into place. Militancy and hooliganism will be reduced to its barest minimum in less than a decade. People talk as if there's no hope for the youths to turn a new leaf. Thank God the core of their problem is that of economy and not religion/culture. Once economy of the area is fixed, every other thing will fall into place in a few years 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Tragedy Of An Unthinking Agitation: The Case Of The Niger-delta Militants by Chiznonso: 11:28am On Sep 12, 2016 |
davidif: Who are U ask about how ND spent their own Money? In fact what did U do with the remaining 87%, ND provides 97% of Nigeria's foreign reserves,. Niger Delta produces 96% of our export revenue, U actually don't understamd that statement @ all. Obasanjo used ND oil money to pay Nigeria's External Debt of 16bn dollars, the money came virtually from Oil. Please keep quiet, U have no clue. U have no right to ask ND what she did with her money, what did U do with what she gave U? What have U even produced for the economy? Ordinary Cocoa U can't optimise it, Nigeria does 250k tonnes, Ivory Coast does 1.8m tonnes, Nigeria in history has neva earned up to 1.5 billion dollars in a year from Cocoa exports, ND produced $99bn of oil and gas exports in 2013 alone. She made 77bn in 2014. Until you make $5bn annually from Cocoa, U can open your mouth and talk. When did she even start collecting all these money, she fought for every single bit of this Income source, it wasnt free although it all came from her soil 2 Likes |
Re: Tragedy Of An Unthinking Agitation: The Case Of The Niger-delta Militants by Nobody: 11:32am On Sep 12, 2016 |
Chiznonso:Oil license are issued by FG, you buy a piece of land from an individual in most cases. Get intelligence at all cost, it will help you. 1 Like |
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