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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 7:10pm On Sep 18, 2016
OEmperor:
How is it the managers fault they are playing badly, so he is also the cos of Rooneys poor performance abi. The problem is his stupid tactics

The common sense today would have been to control the game with passes. But Mourinho didn't pass that instruction. The times we kept the ball on the ground, we had upper hand.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Lana1(m): 7:13pm On Sep 18, 2016
dopejemi, Elxandre is it ok to start raising eyebrows and asking one or two questions?? Or is it still too early in the season?? Afterall, we beat Hull away from Home
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Lana1(m): 7:17pm On Sep 18, 2016
kokaneprodigy:
One nonentity, pundit wannabe said they'll get 13points from their first 5 fixtures.

cheesy cheesy grin grin grin and this lana1 too will be tackling Spy360
Lmao. So u can save a screenshot of my post for more than three months, but am the one looking for atention?? Lol! Nigga u're a fan!!
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by SIRcumalot: 7:18pm On Sep 18, 2016
elampiro:


Leicester
Even better,
A convincing win against the champions go help.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Lana1(m): 7:19pm On Sep 18, 2016
Ruddie, u no do DJ again ni?? Lol as u be my guy, I just hope and pray u dont end up as a failure like ur Lord and Saviour Moyes.

U better say Amen. grin grin
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 7:25pm On Sep 18, 2016
SIRcumalot:
Even better, A convincing win against the champions go help.
. And if we lost, confidence will be zero.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Lana1(m): 7:27pm On Sep 18, 2016
When i said Mourinho was a bad idea and dat the club should ve done more to get Pep?? They said i knew nothing.

Anyways, its still early days. Right?? By the time we reach 10 games, i hope it will still be early in the season.

Until then, lets be happy we beat Hull and Southampton!

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Lana1(m): 7:29pm On Sep 18, 2016
Lmao. Bailly getting bossed easily by Iheanacho & Success back to back!! But no problem. He's confident with the ball at his feet grin grin
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Lana1(m): 7:44pm On Sep 18, 2016
Everybody was out of sorts today.
Zlatan still thinks he's Ligue 1.

Rooney getting dispossessed as usual while he cant even get his corners and set pieces past the first defender. Whether he plays or not, he first step to solving our problems includes getting this slow, obese bástard off the starting 11. Until then, nothing ll change..

Young still as brainless as ever. Nigga kept smashing his crosses into the full back.

Pogba nko?? At least if that one is gon shoot, he should endeavor to aim for the post and not the stands. TF?? Still prefer Matuidi!

Shaw, still a baller. Him and Rashford are still our stand out players so far this season.

Bailly and Smalling Partnership still solid enough. We were simply let down by our midfield for the first two goals.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by sinizia: 7:45pm On Sep 18, 2016
Pataki:
Sinizia, StarBoard, codedguy, see as all of them disappear.

grin grin
dmcdad:

Sinizia the gif master just dey disappear these days. Even Abijah of those days for Yoruba movies no disappear reach am now.cheesy

You're wrong, bros. NO United loss can make me disappear. I've walked with my head held high from Moyes till this day no matter the gale of defeats that's been serenading us since SAF left. The most painful United loss to me was the second UCL final loss to Barca, and the next day I still went out with no shame. So I've seen worst losses than Watford's. I haven't been online since Friday, so I didn't disappear.

That said, I didn't watch the match coz of a wedding I attended and I'm glad I didn't, seeing all the wailing on this thread. I'm not surprised though, I saw it coming and warned about it after our last performance.

I can't apportion blame on anyone coz I didn't watch it. I don't how we played. As for Mourinho, I won't let out my fangs yet. I gave Moyes till February and Gaal, until second season before wanting them out. I'll keep supporting Mourinho till first half of this season is over then I'll know if I can criticize him and pray for his sack.

I saw Pogba coming in for some criticisms today and I can't help but laugh. When I said Pogba was the most overhyped player during the summer, people thought I was hating on him. When I wished for Kante/Matuidi purchase or Kante/Medelpurchase, someone mocked me, giving me Pogba's assists and goals stats of last season. What the person failed to understand is that we're buying Pogba as A DM not a CM or AM. And Pogba alacks ALL the quality of DM. He's not strong, he has no pace, he's lacks positional discipline, he doesn't protect the defense. He's not even creative. He's just clueless.

Pogba's greatest fault is LACK OF POSITIONAL DISCIPLINE. Take a look at Busquet, Busquet is not the best DM in the world or your normal DM. He's not brutal like most DMs are known to be but he's been a success at Barca coz mostly one quality - POSITIONAL DISCIPLINE. Busquet doesn't wander too much from his position. He doesnt act like Pogba and wander to the wings or attack all the time or try to show off and dribble. He does a simple but effective job - whenever MSN or Barca's wingers are pressurizing their opponents and mistakenly one of them slips out of their marking, Busquet notices the loose canon and moves quickly to snuff out the threat. Once he does that, he passes to the ball to the likes of Xavi and co so they can wreck havoc while he relaxes and wait for the next loose canon. He keeps it simple but it's effective. Pogba never does this in his matches I've seen so far. He wanders a lot, away from his position leaving the defenders and Fellani to suffer. This is why I preferred Kante. He protects the defense very well. We need to stop thinking assists and goals are the hallmark of DMs. Makele has a mediocre goal and assist stats, yet the DM position is named after him. Fûck the assists, Bleep the dribble, Bleep the fame and price tag on his name, Pogba needs to calm down and protect the defense only. Leave the goal to our wingers and attackers. Let him stop the exhibitions he's displaying and get physical and dirty. Medel of Chile does this effectively. That beast is a pitbull who plays with brute force and that's what we need, not some new haircuts donning clown acting like the next Vieira but not better than Olofinjana. Nonsense!!


Anyway, I'm not panicking. This is the 5th match. If Mourinho acts fast and grow some balls, he can turn it around or watch as he booted out while the players he's protecting will remain.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by nitrogen(m): 7:46pm On Sep 18, 2016
Honestly, It's an unpalatable situation, to top it off, no manager is available, sh1t! We are going to be in this shitty situation for a loooonnnnngggggg time.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by iPopAlomo(m): 7:53pm On Sep 18, 2016
RuuDie:


If Pogba dey play like dat, maybe e for don justify him pay tag small, small... if you follow BPL well, next to a goal, nothing endears a player to the fans more than a "crunching" tackle, legal or otherwise smiley


True...
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by iPopAlomo(m): 7:57pm On Sep 18, 2016
eph12:
So the goals even reach 3? Just realised that o. I shut down my laptop after Watford second goal


I'm dying... grin grin cheesy grin grin

eph... epp mii... grin
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 8:01pm On Sep 18, 2016
iPopAlomo:



I'm dying... grin grin cheesy grin grin

eph... epp mii... grin
grin
Die abeg grin
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by edoyad(m): 8:03pm On Sep 18, 2016
iPopAlomo:

I'm dying... grin grin cheesy grin grin
eph... epp mii... grin

You needs no eppp, still too early
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 8:04pm On Sep 18, 2016
Sinizia I don't think Pogba was bought to be a DM. He has never played DM before so no. He is supposed to be a box to box player
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Spy360(m): 8:06pm On Sep 18, 2016
chrisley024:
Why not major trophy? Thought you claim you're a top team.
We are not a top team. We cannot afford to pay £89million for hair styles just to lose thrice in a row.

Lol!
B2B Pogba
Your Barber to Barber midfielder should win you games and score screamers like our humble Xhaka.

Cc Keky

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Keky(m): 8:07pm On Sep 18, 2016
GloryIsaac:



Watch how we'll sweep all the clubs this season... its Jose Mourinho time lipsrsealed

Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Keky(m): 8:08pm On Sep 18, 2016
UniqueGem:
Manchester United without champions league Football have

Mkhitaryan


Zlatan


Pogba


James
...... within their reach.



Elsewhere.... Arsenal with champions league football
.... can't even sign a certain VARDY. SMH!

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Spy360(m): 8:11pm On Sep 18, 2016
eph12:
Sinizia I don't think Pogba was bought to be a DM. He has never played DM before so no. He is supposed to be a box to box player

But turned out to be a [size=30] Barber to Barber player[/size]

Pfffft

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by sinizia: 8:12pm On Sep 18, 2016
eph12:
Sinizia I don't think Pogba was bought to be a DM. He has never played DM before so no. He is supposed to be a box to box player

It's a waste of money then coz he's also useless as a B2B. He lacks what it takes to be a B2B. I prefer he sits his ass in the DM (where Mourinho places him in his formation) and protect our defense. Let him leave the attack for our wingers, attack and AMs.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by MrTA(m): 8:14pm On Sep 18, 2016
Well we should be panicking. At this rate we'll be lucky to finish 7th. There is nothing to suggest Jose has made any sort of impact in this team.
I'm surprised you guys arent getting a sense of dejavu when watching the team. Its all so pedestrian. Only difference between this Jose team and LvG's is that we're not playing pointless and aimless passes.

The midfield and attack still lacks pace and mobility very badly. This was never addressed.

Seems we also bought Pogba without knowing what he's good at. Never playing in a midfield 2. Never.
I wont go on and on again about Rooney. I said it before, as long as we continue to shoehorn him into the team, we'll never do anything. We simply wont finish in the top 4 this year.I'll take a bet with anyone on this right now. If Rooney continues in the team as it is, we will not finish in the top 4.

It also wont be fair to blame it all on Rooney. Jose is the main person at fault. He hasnt imposed any style of play on the team and he doesnt know what his best 11 is.

The team doesnt have the legs to press. We simply do not press teams then wonder why we cant dominate games.

If you guys are hoping we'll magically become awesome then you're in for a shock.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by KINGOFJAPAN: 8:14pm On Sep 18, 2016
bigkesh:
If Ayefele dabs in his musical videos m sure he will be worth around £60m
My chest ooo grin grin grin
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 8:21pm On Sep 18, 2016
sinizia:


It's a waste of money then coz he's also useless as a B2B. He lacks what it takes to be a B2B. I prefer he sits his ass in the DM (where Mourinho places him in his formation) and protect our defense. Let him leave the attack for our wingers, attack and AMs.
Mou never played Pogba as a DM. Fellaini is the DM in Jose's plan. It was a waste of money but since it didn't set the club back financially that's none of my business. Even if it does still none of my business. Our team only lacked a B2B midfielder and a creative midfielder so when PoorBarb and Miki were bought I was excited because key areas have been addressed. If the coach can't get them to dominate and win matches it's his fault. We have arguably the most comprehensive team in the league. Get them to put the ball down and press all over the pitch and we'll be fine.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 8:24pm On Sep 18, 2016
Spy360 am so sorry if you feel ignored o grin

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 8:27pm On Sep 18, 2016
Spy360:


But turned out to be a [size=30] Barber to Barber player[/size]

Pfffft
Akant take this Lawd!!!! embarassed embarassed

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by sinizia: 8:29pm On Sep 18, 2016
eph12:

Mou never played Pogba as a DM. Fellaini is the DM in Jose's plan. It was a waste of money but since it didn't set the club back financially that's none of my business. Even if it does still none of my business. Our team only lacked a B2B midfielder and a creative midfielder so when PoorBarb and Miki were bought I was excited because key areas have been addressed. If the coach can't get them to dominate and win matches it's his fault. We have arguably the most comprehensive team in the league. Get them to put the ball down and press all over the pitch and we'll be fine.

If Mourinho expects Fellani to man our DM alone, then he's an idiot. How many top teams play one DM only? The sluggish Fellani to accurately man our DM? SMH.

Anyway, I don't think anybody Mourinho buys will solve our midfield problem unless Mourinho has an actual tactic to go with it. he's clueless right now. Man City are playing well coz Pep has instilled in them his personal tactics, same as Loserfool. Mourinho has simply continued Gail's legacy nothing new added.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Danhumprey: 8:35pm On Sep 18, 2016
afrodoc2:
Those guys that were in support of the Pogba world record signing can now see what others felt. That money spent on Pogba could have solved all our midfield problems if spent with football and not hype in mind. Now the midfield problem is still as huge as before we spent 90m pounds.
What is the point of spending all that money to spit in the face of Madrid if it means clubs like Watford and Feyenoord would in turn spit in our face?

The deed has been done though so the manager has to find a team that best showcases the abilities of the 90m pound white elephant in the room....Pogba
I would suggest a 4-3-3 with Carrick as holding. something like this

-----------------------DE GEA-------------------------
---VALENCIA------BAILLY-----BLIND-------SHAW-------

--------------------CARRICK-----------------------

----------FELLAINI---------POGBA---------------------

--RASHFORD------ZLATAN---------------MARTIAL-------


This line-up strong gan. It covers the main areas in the midfield, atleast as regards the three main midfield players; a passer, marker, and a runner/box to box. We have a lot of options in the midfield, but they all seem almost bang average.


For a midfield three, these are better options.. ........

A passer---Carrick/Blind(if he won't be played as a defender)

A marker---Schneiderlin/Fellaini

Runner---Pogba/Herrera.


These guys should do the job. Or what do you think?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 8:35pm On Sep 18, 2016
sinizia:


If Mourinho expects Fellani to man our DM alone, the he's an idiot. How many top teams play one DM only? The sluggish Fellani to accurately MA our DM? SMH.

Anyway, I don't think anybody Mourinho buys will solve our midfield problem unless Mourinho has an actual tactic to go with it. he's clueless right now. Man City are playing well coz Pep has instilled in them his personal tactics, same as Loserfool. Mourinho has simply continued Gail's legacy nothing new added.
Which team has 2 DM in a match at the same time? Unless they're trying to see out a lead. Have you watched Fellaini play this season at all or you just don't like him? You're not being fair to him because he has been our most consistent player so far. Dude has been doing the job of two men in the middle. Poorgba has been poor accept that and don't put it on Fellaini.

Meanwhile I agree with you that Jose is tacticsless
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Danhumprey: 8:39pm On Sep 18, 2016
If Mourinho still can't see clearly that Rooney is finished, I don't know what else to say.

He is a horrible waste of valuable space!











And for God's sake, when will Mourinho play Carrick?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by sinizia: 8:46pm On Sep 18, 2016
eph12:

Which team has 2 DM in a match at the same time? Unless they're trying to see out a lead. Have you watched Fellaini play this season at all or you just don't like him? You're not being fair to him because he has been our most consistent player so far. Dude has been doing the job of two men in the middle. Poorgba has been poor accept that and don't put it on Fellaini.

Meanwhile I agree with you that Jose is tacticsless

I'm not blaming Fellani. Read again. I'm blaming Mourinho for using Fellani as our only DM. He's been fantastic for us but he can't do the DM job alone coz of Poor Pogba. That's why I never wanted Pogba coz he doesn't know his position. He leaves Fellani with excessive load to carry coz he's always out of position.


Mourinho has no tactics whatsoever for now. Give Mourinho Man City and he'd probably bench KDB and play 3 defensive midfielders. grin

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Danhumprey: 8:52pm On Sep 18, 2016
Lana1:
When i said Mourinho was a bad idea and dat the club should ve done more to get Pep?? They said i knew nothing.

Anyways, its still early days. Right?? By the time we reach 10 games, i hope it will still be early in the season.

Until then, lets be happy we beat Hull and Southampton!
You saying we should have got Pep, do you know when City contacted him for the coaching job? They have been in contact with him long before the news became public. More so, two of City's directors of sport were/are close friends of Pep right from his time at Barca, and they were the ones who persuaded him to sign for City. There is little we have done to get him, as it was City had the upper hand.

So, I'd advise you to move on from that disappointment and try supporting Mourinho to succeed for the sake of the club.



Repeatedly crying over the inability of the club to get Pep is absolutely senseless.

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