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Re: Plagiarism In The Bible? by DoctorAlien(m): 5:34pm On Sep 20, 2016
ifenes:


You are funny. I studied(not worship) Astrology/ in school,so its was easy for me too see where the Sun turned into God.

Horus(rising sun),Osiris(sun-set) The Sun walking on the water(remember jesus?)

Listen,I'm off to the gym......chat soon


Well, according to Wikipedia, osiris is the god of the underworld and all that stuff.

What does it prove about Christianity?

Furthermore, what relationship exists between GOD and the sun except that it is a creature of GOD?

When did the sun walk on water? And what does it prove about GOD?
Re: Plagiarism In The Bible? by DoctorAlien(m): 6:07pm On Sep 20, 2016
ifenes:
What would you not do to avoid hell fire?
I would not commit sin.

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Re: Plagiarism In The Bible? by felixomor: 6:10pm On Sep 20, 2016
ifenes:



There is nothing like hitting the gym,doing my business and engaging Christians on nairaland. It's fun

If posting fallacies(like the ones u posted in one thread like that) is what u call engagement, I think we should rewrite the dictionary. shocked
Re: Plagiarism In The Bible? by felixomor: 6:13pm On Sep 20, 2016
cckris:

[size=20pt]Stop over rating yourself.[/size]
[size=15pt]There's just no way you can 'Burst my bubble', I'm a Christian, happy contented Christian. Beyond your imagination.
[/size]

My brother, I tire.

The guy has Delusions of grandeur.

A classic sign of mental illness. Honestly
Re: Plagiarism In The Bible? by DoctorAlien(m): 6:21pm On Sep 20, 2016
Ifenes,

prove beyond reasonable doubt that GOD does not exist.
Re: Plagiarism In The Bible? by felixomor: 6:23pm On Sep 20, 2016
No scripture is of private interpretation, - 2nd Peter 1:20

Its obvious the writer doesnt know the definition of the word "plagiarism".

Do you mean God copied God?
Re: Plagiarism In The Bible? by HardMirror(m): 6:25pm On Sep 20, 2016
yorhmienerd:
You just made my day. Kudos! HardMirror EyeHateGod Seun attention needed
Why was I mentioned?
Re: Plagiarism In The Bible? by adjoviomole(m): 6:42pm On Sep 20, 2016
wolesmile:



Bro, I am the OP. And on the contrary, I am a Muslim. A devoted, Sufi Islam practitioner. I look beyond ordinary layman meanings to all chapters and verses in scriptures, no matter the religion. I tend to take things of the spirit esoterically. You hardly see me condemn other people's faith, cos my Quran chapter 109 verse 6 teaches me that "Your way is your way, and my way, mine" That holy book also make me realize there is no compulsion in religion.

But bro, I have watched in dismay, the way Christians on this thread attack Islam and anything Islamic. You all put up holier than thou attitude, like you have the best of religions. If we start opening both our scriptures chapter by chapter, verse by verse, I pray you still have enough faith to believe in your Bible. And if you want to get down with me on this, we have just one version of the Quran. I'll give you different versions of the Bible to compare, not the differences in grammatical compositions, but complete alterations in some controversial verses to suit the purposes of the writers.



Yes we have different bible versions but they all said the same thing. Jesus is the son of God.

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Re: Plagiarism In The Bible? by wolesmile(m): 6:43pm On Sep 20, 2016
felixomor:
No scripture is of private interpretation, - 2nd Peter 1:20

Its obvious the writer doesnt know the definition of the word "plagiarism".

Do you mean God copied God?

Define plagiarism, please. Are you saying it was God that wrote the Bible? Remember it's written somewhere in your Bible that God is not an author of confusion. Maybe if we take the book of Samuel, Kings and Chronicles apart, juxtapose the stories therein and try to do some indept analysis of the stories, you might ask yourself too who authored those confusions. Are you sure you know your Bible indept at all? Or you only know those verses they tell you to take home and meditate upon.
Re: Plagiarism In The Bible? by hahn(m): 6:44pm On Sep 20, 2016
adjoviomole:




Yes we have different bible versions but they all said the same thing. Jesus is the son of God.

Lol.

What about the other contradictions? For instance, how were the writers able to calculate days when god created the sun on the fourth day?

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Re: Plagiarism In The Bible? by adjoviomole(m): 6:46pm On Sep 20, 2016
hahn:


Lol.

What about the other contradictions? For instance, how were the writers able to calculate days when god created the sun on the fourth day?


Inspiration from God.
Re: Plagiarism In The Bible? by hahn(m): 6:47pm On Sep 20, 2016
adjoviomole:



Inspiration from God.

Lol. Mistake from man is more like it grin
Re: Plagiarism In The Bible? by wolesmile(m): 6:51pm On Sep 20, 2016
adjoviomole:




Yes we have different bible versions but they all said the same thing. Jesus is the son of God.

If "Jesus is the son of God" is the only noticeable similarities you can point out in your different versions of the Bible, then I put it to you that you are either lying, chose to ignore glaring facts like all of us dogmatic followers of our doctrines, or you are simply blind to the truth.


The book of Matthew said "Seeing, they see not. Hearing, they hear not"
Re: Plagiarism In The Bible? by felixomor: 6:52pm On Sep 20, 2016
wolesmile:


Define plagiarism, please. Are you saying it was God that wrote the Bible? Remember it's written somewhere in your Bible that God is not an author of confusion. Maybe if we take the book of Samuel, Kings and Chronicles apart, juxtapose the stories therein and try to do some indept analysis of the stories, you might ask yourself too who authored those confusions. Are you sure you know your Bible indept at all? Or you only know those verses they tell you to take home and meditate upon.

If I carefully instruct my lawyer to write my will with detail instruction,

who wrote it?

Myself or my lawyer?

Lets start from there.
Re: Plagiarism In The Bible? by adjoviomole(m): 6:54pm On Sep 20, 2016
wolesmile:


If "Jesus is the son of God" is the only noticeable similarities you can point out in your different versions of the Bible, then I put it to you that you are either lying, chose to ignore glaring facts like all of us dogmatic followers of our doctrines, or you are simply blind to the truth.


The book of Matthew said "Seeing, they see not. Hearing, they hear not"

And who is lying here. All the versions of the bible points to the fact that Jesus is the son of God. And that we that bliv in Jesus and are saved will also be children of God
Re: Plagiarism In The Bible? by wolesmile(m): 6:56pm On Sep 20, 2016
felixomor:


If I carefully instruct my lawyer to write my will with detail instruction,

who wrote it?

Myself or my lawyer?

Lets start from there.

So if you have more than one lawyer, you are bound to give to them different instructions, right? Take the case of the writers of Samuel, Kings and Chronicles. Take the case of the Genealogy of Christ by Matthew and the physician, Luke.



Do we go on?
Re: Plagiarism In The Bible? by adjoviomole(m): 6:57pm On Sep 20, 2016
hahn:


Lol. Mistake from man is more like it grin



If the bible was not written in Gods inspiration, how come the bible was the 1st to point out the shape of the earth, how come the bible was the 1st to say boldly that the earth hangs on nothing, it was said several yrs before scientist could even dream of traveling to space.

How did this person know? If he was not inspired by the creator of the universe?
Re: Plagiarism In The Bible? by felixomor: 7:01pm On Sep 20, 2016
wolesmile:


So if you have more than one lawyer, you are bound to give to them different instructions, right? Take the case of the writers of Samuel, Kings and Chronicles. Take the case of the Genealogy of Christ by Matthew and the physician, Luke.



Do we go on?

Can u bring out scripture specifically please? I mean verses

Lets discuss, compare and contrast
Re: Plagiarism In The Bible? by wolesmile(m): 7:01pm On Sep 20, 2016
adjoviomole:


And who is lying here. All the versions of the bible points to the fact that Jesus is the son of God. And that we that bliv in Jesus and are saved will also be children of God


Can you listen to your argument? I just "love" the gullibility of our Christian Brothers. Point something out in their scripture, and they realize they have no logical explanation for it, they tell to all that matters is to accept the sonship of Christ.



Hmmmmm
Re: Plagiarism In The Bible? by yorhmienerd(m): 7:05pm On Sep 20, 2016
wolesmile:



Can you listen to your argument? I just "love" the gullibility of our Christian Brothers. Point something out in their scripture, and they realize they have no logical explanation for it, they tell to all that matters is to accept the sonship of Christ.



Hmmmmm
Who wrote the QURAN?
Re: Plagiarism In The Bible? by DoctorAlien(m): 7:06pm On Sep 20, 2016
wolesmile:



Can you listen to your argument? I just "love" the gullibility of our Christian Brothers. Point something out in their scripture, and they realize they have no logical explanation for it, they tell to all that matters is to accept the sonship of Christ.



Hmmmmm

So, what are you saying in essence?
Re: Plagiarism In The Bible? by adjoviomole(m): 7:08pm On Sep 20, 2016
wolesmile:



Can you listen to your argument? I just "love" the gullibility of our Christian Brothers. Point something out in their scripture, and they realize they have no logical explanation for it, they tell to all that matters is to accept the sonship of Christ.



Hmmmmm


What can be more gullible than blivn that water can wash away sins (ablution)
Re: Plagiarism In The Bible? by wolesmile(m): 7:11pm On Sep 20, 2016
felixomor:


Can u bring out scripture specifically please? I mean verses

Lets discuss, compare and contrast


Let's begin with II Samuel 24:1 and I Chronicles 21:1 in the old testament, then Matthew 1:1-17 and Luke 3: 23-38
Re: Plagiarism In The Bible? by felixomor: 7:33pm On Sep 20, 2016
wolesmile:



Let's begin with II Samuel 24:1 and I Chronicles 21:1 in the old testament, then Matthew 1:1-17 and Luke 3: 23-38

As for Matthew and Luke.
There are many possibilities for the different genealogies.
In jewish custom, there was always a possibilty of having a lineage branch if a man remarried or someone died and his wife had to marry one of his brothers.
If the man had no child, the child from the new marriage would carry on with the father's name.
And there was always high possibility that this name would follow in the geneaology despite the new marriage.
This new genealogy is the legal geneaology while the biological geneaology is also there.

It is believed that Matthew traces the biological lineage while Luke traced the legal lineage.

Now, if u never knew this part of jewish custom, u will be in a hurry to think that u have found a discrepancy, but there is none.

U garrit? cool
Re: Plagiarism In The Bible? by DoctorAlien(m): 7:54pm On Sep 20, 2016
wolesmile:



Let's begin with II Samuel 24:1 and I Chronicles 21:1 in the old testament, then Matthew 1:1-17 and Luke 3: 23-38

Read Luke's account of the genealogy of Christ on wikipedia. Luke most probably reported Jesus lineage through Mary.
Re: Plagiarism In The Bible? by raphieMontella: 8:01pm On Sep 20, 2016
DoctorAlien:


As an atheist, what are you doing in the religious section? Do you have anything to do with religion? Is atheism a religion?
what are you doing on a forum owned by an atheist?
Re: Plagiarism In The Bible? by raphieMontella: 8:04pm On Sep 20, 2016
OLAADEGBU:


If He doesn't then why all the rage against someone who does not exist? undecided
the idea of misotheism is a very wrong biased conclusion from a misguided singular theistic perspective
Re: Plagiarism In The Bible? by felixomor: 8:24pm On Sep 20, 2016
raphieMontella:

what are you doing on a forum owned by an atheist?

And why do u urself use science that was founded by theists in your arguments?
Re: Plagiarism In The Bible? by raphieMontella: 8:34pm On Sep 20, 2016
felixomor:


And why do u urself use science that was founded by theists in your arguments?
he was the initial accuser...
So long there's no restriction..its a ''norm''
thats all i want to correct..
Re: Plagiarism In The Bible? by raphieMontella: 8:52pm On Sep 20, 2016
felixomor:
No scripture is of private interpretation, - 2nd Peter 1:20

Its obvious the writer doesnt know the definition of the word "plagiarism".

Do you mean God copied God?
wait...i dont understand...are you saying all scriptures are inspired?
Re: Plagiarism In The Bible? by felixomor: 8:55pm On Sep 20, 2016
raphieMontella:

wait...i dont understand...are you saying all scriptures are inspired?

What do u mean by ur own "scripture"?
Let me get what u mean first before i answer u.
Re: Plagiarism In The Bible? by raphieMontella: 9:07pm On Sep 20, 2016
felixomor:

What do u mean by ur own "scripture"? Let me get what u mean first before i answer u.
1)including non-biblical scriptures 2)only biblical scriptures

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