goldfish80:

What are you talking about? Valentia had a dog sh!t season last year. They were so toilet, they barely managed to escape relegation. Under such circumstances, mustafi averaged 79%...
75% is poor and not excellent as you have been shouting about.
The Valentia of old could play but not that Valentia managed by Gary Neville

tbaba1234:


Ekong made top 11 in the whole of Scandinavia last season yet his passing stat is just 79%. In the top teams in Europe, top Defenders average 90%. It has a lot to do with style of play.

The quality of some leagues are not that great so possession football is not common. If you put Ekong in Arsenal today, he will play the Arsenal style and stats will go up.

forgiveness:
Joel Asoro and Joshua Maja should be invited to the National team with immediate effect.

TheGoodJoe:


Read their style of play before arguing. It is in black and white. Valencia from time is a possessive side.

Maybe you think result is style of play. Look at the image below before arguing.

TheGoodJoe:


Coming from the person who tried to deceive people that Mainz is a ball playing team. LOL. A team "VERY WEAK IN POSSESSION".

Balogun impressed in a high line defence. If you know what is required to play that high and well.

If Mustafi managed 79% in a team that is good as keeping the ball, you want Leon Balogun to do the same in a team weak at keeping the ball.

Some times, you reason what you are arguing. The teams Ekong faces at Norway are not as good as the teams Balogun faces at Germany. So keeping the ball will be easier than Norway.

As I said, you want to prolong a finished debate.

goldfish80:

You can take a look at Shmidt's philosophy and tell me if hes the Sam aladyce or Pulis route one football coach.
I said earlier, his philosophy is based around that of Tuchel and Klopp.
If Leon balogoun is posting 75%pass completion for a high pressing team like Mainz, am sorry he's not that good on the ball. Period.

goldfish80:

You can take a look at Shmidt's philosophy and tell me if hes the Sam aladyce or Pulis route one football coach.
I said earlier, his philosophy is based around that of Tuchel and Klopp.
If Leon balogoun is posting 75%pass completion for a high pressing team like Mainz, am sorry he's not that good on the ball. Period.

BascoVanVeli:

Bobby is no doubt a great talent but Samuel Chukwueze is no slouch. We will get better at this aspect but Africa as a whole needs to step up. If i were to honestly advice a young player i would have to remind them that they would be missing in January and to some that could be a deal breaker. We just simply need to move the AFCON. Imagine Pep and Wenger having to do without Iheanacho and Iwobi, that could spoil their season.

TheGoodJoe:


Or you do not understand the very weak at keeping possession. If he likes, let him have Van Gaal's possession philosophy in his head. Mainz are weak at keeping possession.

goldfish80:

Troost Ekong stats pulls in at 79% for a weak passing side in Norway. Why is Leon Beckenbauer's statistics at 75% for a "weak passing" Mainz team coached by Shmidt?

goldfish80:

Troost Ekong stats pulls in at 79% for a weak passing side in Norway. Why is Leon Beckenbauer's statistics at 75% for a "weak passing" Mainz team coached by Shmidt?

Icon4s:


From that song, i can see you are typical Rangers fan . All them Christian Chukwu dey stadium dey celebrate.

Enyimba for Life!

TheGoodJoe:


You are fund of making remarks like if I made them. To show how out of touch you are, someone on this thread was so impressed with Leon Balogun's performance. He said Balogun was better than John Stones and I disagreed, saying John Stones Is Better.

If I feel John Stones who is not as good as a lot of ball playing defenders, is better than Balogun, how will I rate him as Beckenbauer.

You are out of touch with the whole debate. Let me remind you, if you have forgotten. The debate was should Rohr drop Balogun for Omeruo. Where you got Beckenbauer from remains a mystery.

goldfish80:

Rangers is the Beginning and the end for me. Rangers is the club of my life. Whenever I watch Rangers play am filled with passion and out of the world emotions.
What Rangers all white Jersey means alot to me. Its more than just a Jersey. I believe you understand what I mean.
I died a little when we were denied the league diadem by Kano pillars and the Nff board room conspiracy some seasons back.
I frankly don't know how to celebrate this victory. I feel. Like somersaulting from here to Enugu. Victory is sweet!
Up Rangers! Up Rangers! Up Rangers! Up Rangers!

TheGoodJoe:


Thank you again. If Balogun is in Arsenal his stats will shoot up.

goldfish80:


Look, I am always chuffed to bits whenever you attached ballplaying skills when talking about Leon Balogoun. I decided I will have a go at you today because I know he's not so good on the ball.
Like I've said earlier, Leon is good at some aspects defending like ariel duels won, he's an OK tackler too. However, his ball playing abilities and passing accuracy is a limitation.
Omeruo has a higher Celine to Leon if only he can improve on his concentration levels. At a tender age, he was already playing like a veteran, holding the hands of Yobo which should be the other eat round enroute to the Afcon triumph.
Playing alongside Egwuekwe probably destroyed his confidence but generally if he reaches his potential, he could be a monster for Super eagles.

goldfish80:

Arsenal scouting software called StatDna, won't pick him up as his passing stats don't measure up to the standard set by the club.

zicky:
am so happy for Rangers not just for winning the league bt their style of play and the passion from their fan. It was even trending on twitter, sad the club I support Heartland might just get relegated

TheGoodJoe:


Do you need a scouting software to tell you that Balogun will have a better passing rate in a more possessive team? Na wa.

goldfish80:

He should at least be pulling above average stats for a ball playing team to notice him.
Arsenal spent millions of dollars purchasing the American data company StatDna to help their scouting system. If you had understanding how scouting players work, you will understand.
Abi you think arsenal will spend millions to collate dat so just for fancy?

TheGoodJoe:


That one is you arguing with yourself. Making another statement that is totally off the point.

You are just deviating to grasp on. The debate ended a long time ago. Just like in the Tanzania game, Balogun looked a baller. In a more possessive side, he will pull better stats simple.

You can keep arguing but the picture below showed your point was off.

I did not say Arsenal should sign Balogun. Please comprehend. If Balogun is in a team like Arsenal, his stats will be better. That does not mean Arsenal buy Balogun.

Enough of the obsessive post and go back to celebrating Rangers.

TheGoodJoe:


That one is you arguing with yourself. Making another statement that is totally off the point.

You are just deviating to grasp on. The debate ended a long time ago. Just like in the Tanzania game, Balogun looked a baller. In a more possessive side, he will pull better stats simple.

You can keep arguing but the picture below showed your point was off.

I did not say Arsenal should sign Balogun. Please comprehend. If Balogun is in a team like Arsenal, his stats will be better. That does not mean Arsenal buy Balogun.

Enough of the obsessive post and go back to celebrating Rangers.

goldfish80:

There was never an argument in the first place. In a non ball playing side, Troost averages 79%, in another non ball playing side, Leon averages 75%. If anything is clear, it is that Leon's not as comfortable on the ball as you think.

goldfish80:

There was never an argument in the first place. In a non ball playing side, Troost averages 79%, in another non ball playing side, Leon averages 75%. If anything is clear, it is that Leon's not as comfortable on the ball as you think.

forgiveness:
Joel Asoro and Joshua Maja should be invited to the National team with immediate effect.

Icon4s:


Na you e dey pain.

All your favourite players no make Eagles squad you still they invite Raski mono and Majek Fashek

edi287:

Both talented but too young. Besides, Asoro has already played for the Swedish u21. It'll be very difficult to get him to play for us.

goldfish80:

Am not sure why you're arguing about. Ekong's team does not play heavy possession footie but Ekong, getting the 79% shows how good he could be in heavy possession side. He could add another 8-10% to his numbers.
However, Balogoun posting those numbers (75%) shows a weakness at ball retention.
If you understand how scouting systems work, you will understand Leon would not make it out of the scouting system software,if a heavy possession side where in the look out for a CB.

forgiveness:


You mean Iwobi the foreign breed is not one of my favourite player?

You mean Ekong the foreign grown?

Do you you mean Simon Moses?

Are you not the one who claimed English players are below average? But you are now celebrating Iwobi progress when you termed him average (because he is English breed).

I think those are one of my favourite players whom I have been advocating for since last year.

E pain am!

goldfish80:

Leon's stat come in at 75% which is the baseline of your prognosis. This tells me he is just an average passer not excellent like we are been fed with here by TheGoodJoe

Icon4s:



Ta! you never for one day advocated for the inclusion of Iwobi, Ekong or Simon.

See the list of players you have been clamouring for: Dominic Solanke, Abdul Ajagun, Raheem Lawal,Tiago Ilori, Moses Odubajo, Nurudeen Orelesi, Sadiq Umar, Nura Abdulahi,
Olanrewaju Kayode, Juwon Oshaniwa, Rabiu Ibrahim, Kenedy Otigba, Brain Idowu and recently Joel Asorock and Joshua Majekfashek. Abi I lie?