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How Can Jesus Be GOD Almighty In The Light Of The Following Verses? by aminusanti(m): 9:20pm On Sep 17, 2016
* If Jesus was GOD, then why in Matthew 24:36 Jesus said "No one knows about that day or hour, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father."  Jesus told his followers that no one (including Jesus) knows when the judgment day will come, only GOD knows?

*If Jesus was GOD, then why in Mark 12:29 Jesus said "Here, O Israel:  The Lord our God is one Lord."   The words "our God" indicate that Jesus had a higher God over him, a stronger God than him.  Jesus didn't say "Your God".  He said "our God"" which includes Jesus as the creation of GOD.

If Jesus was GOD, then why in Mark 10:18 Jesus said “And Jesus said to him, ‘Why do you call me good? No one is good but God alone.”?
Also in Luke 18:19 Jesus said only GOD Almighty is Good: ""Why do you call me good?" Jesus answered. "No one is good—except God alone.
"

If Jesus was GOD, then why in Isaiah 11:2-3 GOD had put the spirit of fearing GOD in Jesus?.

Internet scholars. Food don ready!

Truthman2012
True2god
annunaki2
Plappville & co wink

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Re: How Can Jesus Be GOD Almighty In The Light Of The Following Verses? by twozero(m): 7:04am On Sep 18, 2016
aminusanti:
* If Jesus was GOD, then why in Matthew 24:36 Jesus said "No one knows about that day or hour, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father."  Jesus told his followers that no one (including Jesus) knows when the judgment day will come, only GOD knows?

*If Jesus was GOD, then why in Mark 12:29 Jesus said "Here, O Israel:  The Lord our God is one Lord."   The words "our God" indicate that Jesus had a higher God over him, a stronger God than him.  Jesus didn't say "Your God".  He said "our God"" which includes Jesus as the creation of GOD.

If Jesus was GOD, then why in Mark 10:18 Jesus said “And Jesus said to him, ‘Why do you call me good? No one is good but God alone.”?
Also in Luke 18:19 Jesus said only GOD Almighty is Good: ""Why do you call me good?" Jesus answered. "No one is good—except God alone.
"

If Jesus was GOD, then why in Isaiah 11:2-3 GOD had put the spirit of fearing GOD in Jesus?.

Internet scholars. Food don ready!

Truthman2012
True2god
annunaki2
Plappville & co wink

Nice1 bro.
Simple & straight forward questions but just wait and see how they will complicate and contradict themselves

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Re: How Can Jesus Be GOD Almighty In The Light Of The Following Verses? by Nobody: 10:49pm On Sep 26, 2016
aminusanti:
* If Jesus was GOD, then why in Matthew 24:36 Jesus said "No one knows about that day or hour, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father."  Jesus told his followers that no one (including Jesus) knows when the judgment day will come, only GOD knows?

*If Jesus was GOD, then why in Mark 12:29 Jesus said "Here, O Israel:  The Lord our God is one Lord."   The words "our God" indicate that Jesus had a higher God over him, a stronger God than him.  Jesus didn't say "Your God".  He said "our God"" which includes Jesus as the creation of GOD.

If Jesus was GOD, then why in Mark 10:18 Jesus said “And Jesus said to him, ‘Why do you call me good? No one is good but God alone.”?
Also in Luke 18:19 Jesus said only GOD Almighty is Good: ""Why do you call me good?" Jesus answered. "No one is good—except God alone.
"

If Jesus was GOD, then why in Isaiah 11:2-3 GOD had put the spirit of fearing GOD in Jesus?.

Internet scholars. Food don ready!

Truthman2012
True2god
annunaki2
Plappville & co wink


The cowards you mentioned cannot defend themselves.

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Re: How Can Jesus Be GOD Almighty In The Light Of The Following Verses? by Gboyee4fun(m): 11:21pm On Sep 26, 2016
aminusanti:
* If Jesus was GOD, then why in Matthew 24:36 Jesus said "No one knows about that day or hour, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father."  Jesus told his followers that no one (including Jesus) knows when the judgment day will come, only GOD knows?

*If Jesus was GOD, then why in Mark 12:29 Jesus said "Here, O Israel:  The Lord our God is one Lord."   The words "our God" indicate that Jesus had a higher God over him, a stronger God than him.  Jesus didn't say "Your God".  He said "our God"" which includes Jesus as the creation of GOD.

If Jesus was GOD, then why in Mark 10:18 Jesus said “And Jesus said to him, ‘Why do you call me good? No one is good but God alone.”?
Also in Luke 18:19 Jesus said only GOD Almighty is Good: ""Why do you call me good?" Jesus answered. "No one is good—except God alone.
"

If Jesus was GOD, then why in Isaiah 11:2-3 GOD had put the spirit of fearing GOD in Jesus?.

Internet scholars. Food don ready!

Truthman2012
True2god
annunaki2
Plappville & co


A very nice Question..

Jesus wasn't God Almighty, but His Father was, Jesus is the God of this earth, which He is coming back to reign in it.(.future tense). Jesus Christ was currently at the right hand of His Father waiting for His enemies (Satan and the fallen angels) to be put under His footstep( bottomless pit)...... Jesus was really a Prince before but when He willingly surrendered Himself to be killed for the sin of the world (notice Sin not sins) he was highly exalted by the father...that was when Jesus Christ won the title of Lord of Lords......

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Re: How Can Jesus Be GOD Almighty In The Light Of The Following Verses? by Nobody: 11:31pm On Sep 26, 2016
Gboyee4fun:


A very nice Question..

Jesus wasn't God Almighty, but His Father was, Jesus is the God of this earth, which He is coming back to reign in it.(.future tense). Jesus Christ was currently at the right hand of His Father waiting for His enemies (Satan and the fallen angels) to be put under His footstep( bottomless pit)...... Jesus was really a Prince before but when He willingly surrendered Himself to be killed for the sin of the world (notice Sin not sins) he was highly exalted by the father...that was when Jesus Christ won the title of Lord of Lords......


Jesus was not God and you said he is the God of the earth. You're confused.

So the Father was not the God of the verse earth Jesus was not God, is not God and He will never be God in anywhere. The Bible confirm it.

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Re: How Can Jesus Be GOD Almighty In The Light Of The Following Verses? by Gboyee4fun(m): 11:37pm On Sep 26, 2016
FriendChoice:


Jesus was not God and you said he is the God of the earth. You're confused.

So the Father was not the God of the verse earth Jesus was not God, is not God and He will never be God in anywhere. The Bible confirm it.


I guess you see the future tense I mentioned? God Almighty created this earth for human being to live...Adam was created from the dust of this earth..he wasn't created in heaven...what will an heir to the throne later become? if you are confused get out of your confusion.
Re: How Can Jesus Be GOD Almighty In The Light Of The Following Verses? by Nobody: 11:47pm On Sep 26, 2016
Gboyee4fun:



I guess you see the future tense I mentioned? God Almighty created this earth for human being to live...Adam was created from the dust of this earth..he wasn't created in heaven...what will an heir to the throne later become? if you are confused get out of your confusion.
What was your future tense saying, he will come back as God or Man. He is never God.

I don't like your word's. I need Bible verse.

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Re: How Can Jesus Be GOD Almighty In The Light Of The Following Verses? by armpit: 11:53pm On Sep 26, 2016
The trinity God---- God the father(Jehovah) God the son(Jesus) God the holy spirit(The power of God working in spirit)...Don't also forget that on that night while Jesus was praying before his arrest, he said "FATHER if it be possible let this CUP pass me by, but not my will be done but yours"... The CUP was referring to his cruxifiction.

John 3:16 "for God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son, that who so ever believe in him should not perish but have everlasting life"

"I am the way, the truth and the light. No one cometh to the FATHER except through me"-JESUS CHRIST

Luke 24:47 "and repentance and forgiveness of sin will be preached in his(Jesus) name to all nation"

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Re: How Can Jesus Be GOD Almighty In The Light Of The Following Verses? by armpit: 11:58pm On Sep 26, 2016
Gboyee4fun:


A very nice Question..

Jesus wasn't God Almighty, but His Father was, Jesus is the God of this earth, which He is coming back to reign in it.(.future tense). Jesus Christ was currently at the right hand of His Father waiting for His enemies (Satan and the fallen angels) to be put under His footstep( bottomless pit)...... Jesus was really a Prince before but when He willingly surrendered Himself to be killed for the sin of the world (notice Sin not sins) he was highly exalted by the father...that was when Jesus Christ won the title of Lord of Lords......

Jesus is not waiting for anybody to be put under his feet. He conquered sin and devil thousands of years ago..
Re: How Can Jesus Be GOD Almighty In The Light Of The Following Verses? by Gboyee4fun(m): 12:01am On Sep 27, 2016
armpit:
Jesus is not waiting for anybody to be put under his feet. He conquered sin and devil thousands of years ago..


lol, who is the devil? is he death? Jesus conquered sin and the devil when he was on earth..his temptation not when he died and resurrected.... my question for you is...where is the devil now?
Re: How Can Jesus Be GOD Almighty In The Light Of The Following Verses? by Nobody: 12:04am On Sep 27, 2016
armpit:
The trinity God---- God the father(Jehovah) God the son(Jesus) God the holy spirit(The power of God working in spirit)...Don't also forget that on that night while Jesus was praying before his arrest, he said "FATHER if it be possible let this CUP pass me by, but not my will be done but yours"... The CUP was referring to his cruxifiction.

John 3:16 "for God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son, that who so ever believe in him should not perish but have everlasting life"

"I am the way, the truth and the light. No one cometh to the FATHER except through me"-JESUS CHRIST

Luke 24:47 "and repentance and forgiveness of sin will be preached in his(Jesus) name to all nation"


Sir what is the meaning of begotten? When I said this is my begotten son, what do I mean?

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Re: How Can Jesus Be GOD Almighty In The Light Of The Following Verses? by Gboyee4fun(m): 12:05am On Sep 27, 2016
FriendChoice:
What was your future tense saying, he will come back as God or Man. He is never God.

I don't like your word's. I need Bible verse.


first, I won't quote any bible verse for you, who make bible in chapter by verses?

He will come back as God and as king of this earth.....( oh you think he was crucified in vain?)..you don't need to like my words but I will speak the word just go and do your personal study on what I said
Re: How Can Jesus Be GOD Almighty In The Light Of The Following Verses? by Nobody: 12:08am On Sep 27, 2016
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Gboyee4fun:



first, I won't quote any bible verse for you, who make bible in chapter by verses?

He will come back as God and as king of this earth.....( oh you think he was crucified in vain?)..you don't need to like my words but I will speak the word just go and do your personal study on what I said
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Fine leave the thread for Christian who study Bible bye

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Re: How Can Jesus Be GOD Almighty In The Light Of The Following Verses? by Gboyee4fun(m): 12:11am On Sep 27, 2016
FriendChoice:
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Fine leave the thread for Christian who study Bible bye
oh, I can see your immaturity... so soak in religion
Re: How Can Jesus Be GOD Almighty In The Light Of The Following Verses? by aminusanti(m): 4:56am On Sep 27, 2016
FriendChoice:


The cowards you mentioned cannot defend themselves.

not at all. the only reason sometimes am giving these keyboard warriors attention to reply their trashy write-ups is simply because of the truth seekers out there (readers) if not i wont spend a sec on dis clowns.

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Re: How Can Jesus Be GOD Almighty In The Light Of The Following Verses? by aminusanti(m): 5:13am On Sep 27, 2016
Gboyee4fun:


A very nice Question..

Jesus wasn't God Almighty, but His Father was, Jesus is the God of this earth, which He is coming back to reign in it.(.future tense). Jesus Christ was currently at the right hand of His Father waiting for His enemies (Satan and the fallen angels) to be put under His footstep( bottomless pit)...... Jesus was really a Prince before but when He willingly surrendered Himself to be killed for the sin of the world (notice Sin not sins) he was highly exalted by the father...that was when Jesus Christ won the title of Lord of Lords......

what are trying to say here exactly pls?
you are not even answering the questions or are u just sharing your own views about jesus? if so no p, but that's not what the bible n ur pastors are saying.
why don't u back ur claims up with biblical verses?

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Re: How Can Jesus Be GOD Almighty In The Light Of The Following Verses? by Gboyee4fun(m): 5:44am On Sep 27, 2016
aminusanti:

what are trying to say here exactly pls?
you are not even answering the questions or are u just sharing your own views about jesus? if so no p, but that's not what the bible n ur pastors are saying.
why don't u back ur claims up with biblical verses?


me bible quote?,

if you are matured and you study the bible, nobody will still need to explain to you that, what I wrote there is Bible.
Re: How Can Jesus Be GOD Almighty In The Light Of The Following Verses? by Blackfire(m): 5:50am On Sep 27, 2016
@op let's do it this way....
how can u be a father to your children...and at the same time husband to your wife....and at the same time a worker in a company.... and at the same time a Secretary in your village meeting?.

are u still following me.. good.
have u heard of soul- travel.. ok this is how it works... u are in a place, but ur spirit is in another place... although this is used mainly in the occultic world to do harm..

now if we humans a chip from the creator can perform this , how much more the capital G O D..

I wish I met Mohamed, that guy needs to be schooled.

finally.. as u are now in your room... just one dial u are talkin g with someone far off as if u are there...

now let's talk about the Prince of peace, the one that will judge both the dead and the living , the word of God by whom all things are made... the messiah, the one who preaches that the greatest of all is Love... the one that forgives sins, heal disease s, oh my my my the one evil spirit s bow for... the mighty one... and ops the old testament s called him the everlasting father.

the one that when he touches your life... u will never remain the same.

I bow for the king of kings ....and the Lord of lords... the soon coming judge of the whole earth.

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Re: How Can Jesus Be GOD Almighty In The Light Of The Following Verses? by armpit: 6:45am On Sep 27, 2016
FriendChoice:



Sir what is the meaning of begotten? When I said this is my begotten son, what do I mean?
BEGOTTEN simply means something that is of you. EG, "your daddy BEGAT YOU" meaning you are your daddy's son.

CHRIST, being the son was EXALTED after his death and ressurection which is why it is written- "BEHOLD EVERY POWER IN HEAVEN AND ON EARTH HAS BEEN GIVEN UNTO HIM, THAT AT THE MENTION OF THE NAME JESUS; EVERY KNEE SHALL BOW AND ALL TONGUE SHALL CONFESS THAT HE IS LORD"
Re: How Can Jesus Be GOD Almighty In The Light Of The Following Verses? by Nobody: 7:25am On Sep 27, 2016
Here is d truth... Jesus is not God of earth but d devil is...
Jesus is God d son
God is God the father
Holysprirt is God d spirit
The trinity...
You dont pray to Jesus but through Jesus becasue Jesus is d way to d father
God the father is who answers prays and whom all glory and praises goes to
The holy spirit is God of inspiration and miracles... Without d holy spirit miracles cannot work. Even Jesus had d holy spirit in him.
The holyspirit is spirit from d father. But they are all one.
Dont get me wrong here because we dont serve 3 Gods but only God d father smileyHere is d truth... Jesus is not God of earth but d devil is...
Jesus is God d son
God is God the father
Holysprirt is God d spirit
The trinity...
You dont pray to Jesus but through Jesus becasue Jesus is d way to d father
God the father is who answers prays and whom all glory and praises goes to
The holy spirit is God of inspiration and miracles... Without d holy spirit miracles cannot work. Even Jesus had d holy spirit in him.
The holyspirit is spirit from d father. But they are all one.
Dont get me wrong here because we dont serve 3 Gods but only God d father
Re: How Can Jesus Be GOD Almighty In The Light Of The Following Verses? by Gboyee4fun(m): 8:35am On Sep 27, 2016
Smallville10:
Here is d truth... Jesus is not God of earth but d devil is...
Jesus is God d son
God is God the father
Holysprirt is God d spirit
The trinity...
You dont pray to Jesus but through Jesus becasue Jesus is d way to d father
God the father is who answers prays and whom all glory and praises goes to
The holy spirit is God of inspiration and miracles... Without d holy spirit miracles cannot work. Even Jesus had d holy spirit in him.
The holyspirit is spirit from d father. But they are all one.
Dont get me wrong here because we dont serve 3 Gods but only God d father smileyHere is d truth... Jesus is not God of earth but d devil is...
Jesus is God d son
God is God the father
Holysprirt is God d spirit
The trinity...
You dont pray to Jesus but through Jesus becasue Jesus is d way to d father
God the father is who answers prays and whom all glory and praises goes to
The holy spirit is God of inspiration and miracles... Without d holy spirit miracles cannot work. Even Jesus had d holy spirit in him.
The holyspirit is spirit from d father. But they are all one.
Dont get me wrong here because we dont serve 3 Gods but only God d father

devil is the prince of this world we are in.....JESUS is the God of this earth....there is different from earth and world....God Almighty created this earth and He gave it to Jesus after He humbly surrender Himself to be crucified for the sin of this world...devil is not god, he exalted himself, he created nothing he can only manipulate.
Re: How Can Jesus Be GOD Almighty In The Light Of The Following Verses? by natkey: 9:40am On Sep 27, 2016
aminusanti:
* If Jesus was GOD, then why in Matthew 24:36 Jesus said "No one knows about that day or hour, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father."  Jesus told his followers that no one (including Jesus) knows when the judgment day will come, only GOD knows?

*If Jesus was GOD, then why in Mark 12:29 Jesus said "Here, O Israel:  The Lord our God is one Lord."   The words "our God" indicate that Jesus had a higher God over him, a stronger God than him.  Jesus didn't say "Your God".  He said "our God"" which includes Jesus as the creation of GOD.

If Jesus was GOD, then why in Mark 10:18 Jesus said “And Jesus said to him, ‘Why do you call me good? No one is good but God alone.”?
Also in Luke 18:19 Jesus said only GOD Almighty is Good: ""Why do you call me good?" Jesus answered. "No one is good—except God alone.
"

If Jesus was GOD, then why in Isaiah 11:2-3 GOD had put the spirit of fearing GOD in Jesus?.

Internet scholars. Food don ready!

Truthman2012
True2god
annunaki2
Plappville & co wink


So I think you're misunderstanding the concept of the trinity and Jesus' incarnation. Jesus is fully God and fully man. When Jesus came to the earth, he was functioning as a human being with a human nature. So when you read scripture, you have to read it in the light of this. Why was Jesus hungry? Why did he fall asleep? Because he was functioning as a man. We know God doesn't get hungry, tired or sleep. In the same vein, when Jesus said he didn't know the hour of his return, he was saying that as a man. As God, of course, he knows when he's coming back.

You also mentioned that when Jesus said there is none good but God, he was implying that he wasn't God; but no, you are the one giving that interpretation. This is how you should think about it. Jesus said 'Why do you call me good? There is none good but one, that is, God'. In other words, do you realize the implication of what you are saying? Does that mean you realize that I am God?

'Hear O Israel, the Lord our God is one God' First of all, you failed to mention that Jesus was making a quotation from the old testament (Deut. 6:4). How about you acknowledge and address that first and quote the full thing in its proper context?

By the way, you guys always say Jesus never said to worship him so he must not be God. This isn't true. First of all, the whole bible is inspired by the Holy Spirit. So it doesn't matter whether Jesus directly made the statement while on the earth or not. It is as much the word of God when he speaks it as when it is inspired elsewhere by the Holy Spirit. Jesus said he only spoke what he heard the Father speak - the same Father who inspired the writers of the bible through the Holy Spirit. There are lots of verses that show again and again that Jesus is in fact God. Anyway, we're talking about the issue of worship here, aren't we? There are several recorded occasions in the gospel where Jesus received worship. If you study the old testament (and even the new testament), whenever an angel of God appeared to someone, and he tried to worship the angel, the angel would always tell him not to but Jesus never rejected worship or rebuked those worshiping him. He received it. Here are some examples:

Matthew 8:2 - And, behold, there came a leper and worshipped him, saying, Lord, if thou wilt, thou canst make me clean.

Matthew 9:18 - While he spake these things unto them, behold, there came a certain ruler, and worshipped him, saying, My daughter is even now dead: but come and lay thy hand upon her, and she shall live.

Matthew 14:33 - Then they that were in the ship came and worshipped him, saying, Of a truth thou art the Son of God.

These are just a few examples. There are more but I think they drive home my point. If Jesus wasn't God, if he was merely a prophet, these were perfect moments to rebuke or correct them but he didn't.

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Re: How Can Jesus Be GOD Almighty In The Light Of The Following Verses? by Nobody: 9:52am On Sep 27, 2016
armpit:
BEGOTTEN simply means something that is of you. EG, "your daddy BEGAT YOU" meaning you are your daddy's son.

CHRIST, being the son was EXALTED after his death and ressurection which is why it is written- "BEHOLD EVERY POWER IN HEAVEN AND ON EARTH HAS BEEN GIVEN UNTO HIM, THAT AT THE MENTION OF THE NAME JESUS; EVERY KNEE SHALL BOW AND ALL TONGUE SHALL CONFESS THAT HE IS LORD"

Yes correct, if I see your son and say hey may son, I know you will consider it normal. But if I say hey by begotten son, then that means I have sex with your wife to have that child, and you will sue me for adultery. Sex is the function of lower animals and never be attributed to God. It's blasphemy.


The word ‘begotten’ mentioned in the Gospel of John, Chap 3 vs. 16 has been thrown out from the Revised Standard Version of the Bible as an interpolation, as a fabrication.

The Revised Standard Version has been revised by 32 Christian Scholars of the highest eminence, backed by 50 different co- operating denominations and these Scholars have removed this blasphemous word without any ceremony as an interpolation, concoction, fabrication, and adulteration.

Yet the majority of Christians are unaware of this important fact because they do not read their own Bibles.

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Re: How Can Jesus Be GOD Almighty In The Light Of The Following Verses? by Gboyee4fun(m): 10:01am On Sep 27, 2016
FriendChoice:


Yes correct, if I see your son and say hey may son, I know you will consider it normal. But if I say hey by begotten son, then that means I have sex with your wife to have that child, and you will sue me for adultery. Sex is the function of lower animals and never be attributed to God. It's blasphemy.


The word ‘begotten’ mentioned in the Gospel of John, Chap 3 vs. 16 has been thrown out from the Revised Standard Version of the Bible as an interpolation, as a fabrication.

The Revised Standard Version has been revised by 32 Christian Scholars of the highest eminence, backed by 50 different co- operating denominations and these Scholars have removed this blasphemous word without any ceremony as an interpolation, concoction, fabrication, and adulteration.

Yet the majority of Christians are unaware of this important fact because they do not read their own Bibles.

good one bro

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Re: How Can Jesus Be GOD Almighty In The Light Of The Following Verses? by armpit: 10:18am On Sep 27, 2016
FriendChoice:


Yes correct, if I see your son and say hey may son, I know you will consider it normal. But if I say hey by begotten son, then that means I have sex with your wife to have that child, and you will sue me for adultery. Sex is the function of lower animals and never be attributed to God. It's blasphemy.


The word ‘begotten’ mentioned in the Gospel of John, Chap 3 vs. 16 has been thrown out from the Revised Standard Version of the Bible as an interpolation, as a fabrication.

The Revised Standard Version has been revised by 32 Christian Scholars of the highest eminence, backed by 50 different co- operating denominations and these Scholars have removed this blasphemous word without any ceremony as an interpolation, concoction, fabrication, and adulteration.

Yet the majority of Christians are unaware of this important fact because they do not read their own Bibles.
The original version of the bible(KJV) with the words contained in it were given directly by God... Every other version is what the world composed to fit what they want to hear.
If God used begotten, then that is what it is. We can't question his standard for he is the master of wisdom and knowledge.
Re: How Can Jesus Be GOD Almighty In The Light Of The Following Verses? by Nobody: 10:29am On Sep 27, 2016
armpit:
The original version of the bible(KJV) with the words contained in it were given directly by God... Every other version is what the world composed to fit what they want to hear.
If God used begotten, then that is what it is. We can't question his standard for he is the master of wisdom and knowledge.

The original Bible doesn't exist sir. The original Bible is revealed in Hebrew, it was translated to English. The present day by Bible you see in Hebrew is translated from English. God can never begot, its function of Animals.

Let's leave this, point out a single an ambiguous statement in the Bible where Jesus himself said I am God or he says worship me.

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Re: How Can Jesus Be GOD Almighty In The Light Of The Following Verses? by aminusanti(m): 10:29am On Sep 27, 2016
Gboyee4fun:



me bible quote?,

if you are matured and you study the bible, nobody will still need to explain to you that, what I wrote there is Bible.
If arguing without proofs indicate maturity then I accept am not mature.
I am not ready for any blind argument here abeg!

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Re: How Can Jesus Be GOD Almighty In The Light Of The Following Verses? by Nobody: 10:45am On Sep 27, 2016
natkey:


So I think you're misunderstanding the concept of the trinity and Jesus' incarnation. Jesus is fully God and fully man. When Jesus came to the earth, he was functioning as a human being with a human nature. So when you read scripture, you have to read it in the light of this. Why was Jesus hungry? Why did he fall asleep? Because he was functioning as a man. We know God doesn't get hungry, tired or sleep. In the same vein, when Jesus said he didn't know the hour of his return, he was saying that as a man. As God, of course, he knows when he's coming back.

You also mentioned that when Jesus said there is none good but God, he was implying that he wasn't God; but no, you are the one giving that interpretation. This is how you should think about it. Jesus said 'Why do you call me good? There is none good but one, that is, God'. In other words, do you realize the implication of what you are saying? Does that mean you realize that I am God?

'Hear O Israel, the Lord our God is one God' First of all, you failed to mention that Jesus was making a quotation from the old testament (Deut. 6:4). How about you acknowledge and address that first and quote the full thing in its proper context?

By the way, you guys always say Jesus never said to worship him so he must not be God. This isn't true. First of all, the whole bible is inspired by the Holy Spirit. So it doesn't matter whether Jesus directly made the statement while on the earth or not. It is as much the word of God when he speaks it as when it is inspired elsewhere by the Holy Spirit. Jesus said he only spoke what he heard the Father speak - the same Father who inspired the writers of the bible through the Holy Spirit. There are lots of verses that show again and again that Jesus is in fact God. Anyway, we're talking about the issue of worship here, aren't we? There are several recorded occasions in the gospel where Jesus received worship. If you study the old testament (and even the new testament), whenever an angel of God appeared to someone, and he tried to worship the angel, the angel would always tell him not to but Jesus never rejected worship or rebuked those worshiping him. He received it. Here are some examples:

Matthew 8:2 - And, behold, there came a leper and worshipped him, saying, Lord, if thou wilt, thou canst make me clean.

Matthew 9:18 - While he spake these things unto them, behold, there came a certain ruler, and worshipped him, saying, My daughter is even now dead: but come and lay thy hand upon her, and she shall live.

Matthew 14:33 - Then they that were in the ship came and worshipped him, saying, Of a truth thou art the Son of God.

These are just a few examples. There are more but I think they drive home my point. If Jesus wasn't God, if he was merely a prophet, these were perfect moments to rebuke or correct them but he didn't.



Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: handle me, and see; for a spirit has not flesh and bones, as you see me have. Luke 24:39


Jesus has bone and flesh. He is a man


Ye men of Israel, hear these words; Jesus of Nazareth, a man approved of God among you by miracles and wonders and signs, which God did by him in the midst of you, as ye yourselves also know: Act 2:22


God cannot be a man, And Neither the Son of a man

God is not a man, that he should lie; neither the son of man, that he should repent: hath he said, and shall he not do it? or hath he spoken, and shall he not make it good?
Numbers 23:19

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Re: How Can Jesus Be GOD Almighty In The Light Of The Following Verses? by armpit: 11:07am On Sep 27, 2016
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The original Bible doesn't exist sir. The original Bible is revealed in Hebrew, it was translated to English. The present day by Bible you see in Hebrew is translated from English. God can never begot, its function of Animals.

Let's leave this, point out a single an ambiguous statement in the Bible where Jesus himself said I am God or he says worship me.
, read JOHN 14:1-END this would exposé to you how the trinity operates... NOTICE verses 6,7,9,23
Re: How Can Jesus Be GOD Almighty In The Light Of The Following Verses? by natkey: 11:13am On Sep 27, 2016
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Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: handle me, and see; for a spirit has not flesh and bones, as you see me have. Luke 24:39


Jesus has bone and flesh. He is a man


Ye men of Israel, hear these words; Jesus of Nazareth, a man approved of God among you by miracles and wonders and signs, which God did by him in the midst of you, as ye yourselves also know: Act 2:22


God cannot be a man, And Neither the Son of a man

God is not a man, that he should lie; neither the son of man, that he should repent: hath he said, and shall he not do it? or hath he spoken, and shall he not make it good?
Numbers 23:19

Okay. So I take it that you accept the other arguments since you did not refute the deductions I made from them.

Numbers 23:19 does not say 'God cannot be a man'. It doesn't even say God is not a man. It says God is not a man, that he should lie. It also does not say simply God is not the son of man. Or 'God cannot become the son of man'. There's a reason why there's something following both statements. If you take out the second part in both cases, you have destroyed the picture the verse is painting. This is the pattern I find again and again with you guys. You tend to take isolated verses or even fragments of verses (like in this case) to make them say what you want. You have to keep the whole piece together. If you keep the whole piece together, it is clear that he is making the point that God is not like men that are capable of lying. You cannot split it up anyhow you like. But okay let's even say it says what you say. When was this statement made? Before Jesus came to the earth or after? It was made before Jesus came to the earth. So even logically, there would still be no contradiction. Again, I emphasize it does not say God 'cannot' be a man, that he should lie. It says God 'is' not a man, that he should lie. Quote it exactly like it is; otherwise, it becomes a lie. There is clearly a difference between 'is' and 'cannot'. I am not a farmer but that doesn't mean I cannot become one tomorrow.

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Re: How Can Jesus Be GOD Almighty In The Light Of The Following Verses? by Maamin(m): 11:30am On Sep 27, 2016
OK op first of all Jesus is not God almighty but mighty God . Only Yahweh is God almighty. wink

You might need to correct your topic in other to begin with.. wink

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* If Jesus was GOD, then why in Matthew 24:36 Jesus said "No one knows about that day or hour, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father."  Jesus told his followers that no one (including Jesus) knows when the judgment day will come, only GOD knows?
*If Jesus was GOD, then why in Mark 12:29 Jesus said "Here, O Israel:  The Lord our God is one Lord."   The words "our God" indicate that Jesus had a higher God over him, a stronger God than him.  Jesus didn't say "Your God".  He said "our God"" which includes Jesus as the creation of GOD.
If Jesus was GOD, then why in Mark 10:18 Jesus said “And Jesus said to him, ‘Why do you call me good? No one is good but God alone.”?
Also in Luke 18:19 Jesus said only GOD Almighty is Good: ""Why do you call me good?" Jesus answered. "No one is good—except God alone.
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If Jesus was GOD, then why in Isaiah 11:2-3 GOD had put the spirit of fearing GOD in Jesus?.
Internet scholars. Food don ready!
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Plappville & co wink

Is Jesus God? YES read (John 1:1-5) also (Hebrews 1:1-10)

Chew on those verses properly please.. grin

They answer your above query cool
Re: How Can Jesus Be GOD Almighty In The Light Of The Following Verses? by Nobody: 11:31am On Sep 27, 2016
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Okay. So I take it that you accept the other arguments since you did not refute the deductions I made from them.

Numbers 23:19 does not say 'God cannot be a man'. It doesn't even say God is not a man. It says God is not a man, that he should lie. It also does not say simply God is not the son of man. Or 'God cannot become the son of man'. There's a reason why there's something following both statements. If you take out the second part in both cases, you have destroyed the picture the verse is painting. This is the pattern I find again and again with you guys. You tend to take isolated verses or even fragments of verses (like in this case) to make them say what you want. You have to keep the whole piece together. If you keep the whole piece together, it is clear that he is making the point that God is not like men that are capable of lying. You cannot split it up anyhow you like. But okay let's even say it says what you say. When was this statement made? Before Jesus came to the earth or after? It was made before Jesus came to the earth. So even logically, there would still be no contradiction. Again, I emphasize it does not say God 'cannot' be a man, that he should lie. It says God 'is' not a man, that he should lie. Quote it exactly like it is; otherwise, it becomes a lie. There is clearly a difference between 'is' and 'cannot'.

God is not man. It's clear sir. Except if you want to deny it.

Jesus explain in my previous post, you should touch him to confirm, spirit have no flesh

Jesus is Son of Woman while God is not son of man.

Understand something I am not saying you must believe, this is not Quran, its Bible, don't think I am just quoting it, I do my research. So I pray God guides you to see and be able to accept the truth. Am done with this, I don't want to continue with pointless argument when There is not ambiguity.

At last there is not a single unequivocal statement in the entire Bible where Jesus (pbuh) himself says, "I am God" or where he says, "worship me"

If you can point it out, then I have no problem if you worship Jesus. Remember I said Jesus not others.

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