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Re: The Evil Apple: Did Adam And Eve Really Eat An Apple? by betfair(m): 7:58am On Oct 02, 2016
Vickiweezy:
That's how the story was put for us as kids, but we all know the apple represented sex.
The devil opened their eyes to see the pleasure of sex.
devil opened humans eyes to see the pleasure of sex...who opened animals eyes to its pleasure of sex?

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Re: The Evil Apple: Did Adam And Eve Really Eat An Apple? by AreaFada2: 8:01am On Oct 02, 2016
I think we humans are just there believing we understand the Bible. We largely don't. Much of the Bible is not literally what it seems.

Even invoking holy spirit from here to Nagasaki will hardly change it. Instead let's just live a simple life devoid of hate & acrimony, be at peace with oneself & the world around us.

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Re: The Evil Apple: Did Adam And Eve Really Eat An Apple? by allanphash7(m): 8:02am On Oct 02, 2016
Adam and eve knew nothing like right or wrong, they had no advanced knowledge of things before eating the fruit..

(Going by the story)
-If they didn't eat the fruit, we would probably be walking around unclad without knowing right from wrong or why lightening flash because we have no knowledge advanced enough for that..

Thats a cool story..

-So eve ate the tree of knowledge and by that one act her eyes were opened to the door of knowledge
(And God was mad? 
why? 
He needs robots and not people with knowledge?) Then why put the tree there.?

- Here God was against Knowledge but the snake whispered the first few words of learning into eve's ears, showed her the path to knowledge, the ability to understand which God didn't want her to know in the first place.

Who really is the Villain here.?

- According to the story Adam and Eve had no knowledge of Good and evil before eating the fruit meaning Eve didn't even know she was committing evil by eating the fruit but she was punished for her naivety.

I wonder how Eve could be out witted by a snake if she really had real homo sapiens brain, showing Eve was just a moroni_c pound of flesh walking around..

- God knew he didn't want the fruit eaten but he just had to put the fruit in front of them..
(I got rat poison biscuit, i know it's not good then i place it in front of my children and tell them not to eat it and get angry when they do?... Who dah fvck was supposed to be blamed..

Me or my children..

- And nobody is remembering there was a tree that could give eternal life.. (Immortality ) Cool story..

-Going by the omniscient principle, God knew before hand they would eat the fruit then was angry they did even though he put the tree there.. 

-It takes a special kind of crazy to believe such tales but well when a whole bunch of people believe it, we call it religion but if it were one person we would say he is crazy.

I think any right mind would agree that we must all Question the idea of a God who creates faulty humans then blames them for his own mistakes and still bears a grudge till now even on innocent children..

Such grudge bearing supreme being is not only childish but stark absurd..

Nobody was born a sin or sinner, somebody fvcking lied, its high time people realized that...

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Re: The Evil Apple: Did Adam And Eve Really Eat An Apple? by Proudlyngwa(m): 8:02am On Oct 02, 2016
UncleSnr:
So you mean, they were created not to have sex. How do they reproduce if not through sex?
The time to have sex was not yet right.
They needed to reach a certain level before they could have sex, how will you feel if your unprepared kids went into the family way

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Re: The Evil Apple: Did Adam And Eve Really Eat An Apple? by elotajohn1(m): 8:03am On Oct 02, 2016
Whether na apple pineapple mango or alomo bitters

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Re: The Evil Apple: Did Adam And Eve Really Eat An Apple? by Proffdada: 8:04am On Oct 02, 2016
allanphash7:

Adam and eve knew nothing like right or wrong, they had no advanced knowledge of things before eating the fruit..
(Going by the story)
-If they didn't eat the fruit, we would probably be walking around unclad without knowing right from wrong or why lightening flash because we have no knowledge advanced enough for that..
Thats a cool story..
-So eve ate the tree of knowledge and by that one act her eyes were opened to the door of knowledge
(And God was mad? 
why? 
He needs robots and not people with knowledge?) Then why put the tree there.?
- Here God was against Knowledge but the snake whispered the first few words of learning into eve's ears, showed her the path to knowledge, the ability to understand which God didn't want her to know in the first place.
Who really is the Villain here.?
- According to the story Adam and Eve had no knowledge of Good and evil before eating the fruit meaning Eve didn't even know she was committing evil by eating the fruit but she was punished for her naivety.
I wonder how Eve could be out witted by a snake if she really had real homo sapiens brain, showing Eve was just a moroni_c pound of flesh walking around..
- God knew he didn't want the fruit eaten but he just had to put the fruit in front of them..
(I got rat poison biscuit, i know it's not good then i place it in front of my children and tell them not to eat it and get angry when they do?... Who dah fvck was supposed to be blamed..
Me or my children..
- And nobody is remembering there was a tree that could give eternal life.. (Immortality ) Cool story..
-Going by the omniscient principle, God knew before hand they would eat the fruit then was angry they did even though he put the tree there.. 
-It takes a special kind of crazy to believe such tales but well when a whole bunch of people believe it, we call it religion but if it were one person we would say he is crazy.
I think any right mind would agree that we must all Question the idea of a God who creates faulty humans then blames them for his own mistakes and still bears a grudge till now even on innocent children..
Such grudge bearing supreme being is not only childish but stark absurd..
Nobody was born a sin or sinner, somebody fvcking lied, its high time people realized that...
No apple was mentioned but if you ask me, the fruit has there all over the garden and they've been eating it, they only got to disobey God to realise that

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Re: The Evil Apple: Did Adam And Eve Really Eat An Apple? by Moblord(m): 8:04am On Oct 02, 2016
momentum85:
To me the apple represents sex, Satan had sexual intercourse with Eve, and when Adam her husby came back, she seduced him, had sex with him and their eyes opened. Then Satan had legs and hands like normal human but started crawling after the curse from God.
So you mean Eve cheated on Adam
Re: The Evil Apple: Did Adam And Eve Really Eat An Apple? by MaziOmenuko: 8:05am On Oct 02, 2016
MadCow1:
My only problem is why was God against Mankind having the knowledge of good and evil?



And why has he stayed pissed off with mankind since that time till now over 5000 years .. undecided

And how cam you say he is all forgiving when he has not sent man back to Eden to start all over?

Why did it take his Son coming to die first before he started considering forgiving us?

Pfft...

After creation, there were loads of places God should have planted a tree he didn't want man to eat from: heck for a start there was the sahara desert, Amazon forest, Bermuda, Antarctica, Australia,: but no, guess where he planted it? Not just in the same garden but in the MIDDLE of that same garden.

Those lads that wrote the Bible should have taken a course or two from Hollywood script writers.

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Re: The Evil Apple: Did Adam And Eve Really Eat An Apple? by AreaFada2: 8:05am On Oct 02, 2016
Most likely satan made Eve realise that those things between their legs are not just for decoration. That there is much electric shock-pleasure to be had with them. Eve sold the idea to Adam on his return & he took it hook, line & sinker. grin grin

Till today, if a woman wishes to seduce a man, her chances of success still remain very high indeed. cool cool

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Re: The Evil Apple: Did Adam And Eve Really Eat An Apple? by Emisun5n(m): 8:05am On Oct 02, 2016
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Re: The Evil Apple: Did Adam And Eve Really Eat An Apple? by Proudlyngwa(m): 8:08am On Oct 02, 2016
allanphash7:

Adam and eve knew nothing like right or wrong, they had no advanced knowledge of things before eating the fruit..

(Going by the story)
-If they didn't eat the fruit, we would probably be walking around unclad without knowing right from wrong or why lightening flash because we have no knowledge advanced enough for that..

Thats a cool story..

-So eve ate the tree of knowledge and by that one act her eyes were opened to the door of knowledge
(And God was mad? 
why? 
He needs robots and not people with knowledge?) Then why put the tree there.?

- Here God was against Knowledge but the snake whispered the first few words of learning into eve's ears, showed her the path to knowledge, the ability to understand which God didn't want her to know in the first place.

Who really is the Villain here.?

- According to the story Adam and Eve had no knowledge of Good and evil before eating the fruit meaning Eve didn't even know she was committing evil by eating the fruit but she was punished for her naivety.

I wonder how Eve could be out witted by a snake if she really had real homo sapiens brain, showing Eve was just a moroni_c pound of flesh walking around..

- God knew he didn't want the fruit eaten but he just had to put the fruit in front of them..
(I got rat poison biscuit, i know it's not good then i place it in front of my children and tell them not to eat it and get angry when they do?... Who dah fvck was supposed to be blamed..

Me or my children..

- And nobody is remembering there was a tree that could give eternal life.. (Immortality ) Cool story..

-Going by the omniscient principle, God knew before hand they would eat the fruit then was angry they did even though he put the tree there.. 

-It takes a special kind of crazy to believe such tales but well when a whole bunch of people believe it, we call it religion but if it were one person we would say he is crazy.

I think any right mind would agree that we must all Question the idea of a God who creates faulty humans then blames them for his own mistakes and still bears a grudge till now even on innocent children..

Such grudge bearing supreme being is not only childish but stark absurd..

Nobody was born a sin or sinner, somebody fvcking lied, its high time people realized that...

Trash
the moral of the story is
1.Obedience.
2. Portion of responsibility
3. Acceptance of mistake
4. Plea for mercy
5. Restitution.

Adam failed all

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Re: The Evil Apple: Did Adam And Eve Really Eat An Apple? by Adetayo1978(m): 8:10am On Oct 02, 2016
I'm here just to read comments!
Re: The Evil Apple: Did Adam And Eve Really Eat An Apple? by oteneaaron(m): 8:19am On Oct 02, 2016
momentum85:
To me the apple represents sex, Satan had sexual intercourse with Eve, and when Adam her husby came back, she seduced him, had sex with him and their eyes opened. Then Satan had legs and hands like normal human but started crawling after the curse from God.

I beg to differ.....

Let's analyse the early genesis verses can we...?


now...after GOD created adam, he gave the Instruction FIRST to Adam....

read... Gensis 2:15-17....

" .........but as for the tree of the knowledge of good and bad, you MUST not eat from it, for in the DAY you eat from it you will certainly die"


So Adam was given the Instruction FIRST.......note that EVE wasn't even in existence yet.....

Then......EVE came on board......and it's obvious ADAM relayed the Instruction to her.

Now the question here is.....was the Friut Sex?

NO.....

God had earlier Instructed Adam and all living creatures to be fruitful and fill the earth.....and this can only be done through Sex.....

So this eating of the Fruit wahala, was a very simple instruction.....

"He dude, av got beer in the frigde.....drink all you want, but the legend extra stout is mine.....pls don't touch it.....if u drink it, m kicking you out of my Crib......"


Eve knew the Instruction....but the inborn.....-what else could happen- mentatilty put us all in this Mess.....

God is very Jealous of his Sovereignty......and the deceiver...put it into question.....

he asked EVE.....

" Did God REALLY say that you MUST not eat from EVERY treee in the garden?.............you Certainly WILL NOT die......."


God mentioned only A tree......but the Devil played of Eve's intelligence.....and she fell for it........



.....goodmorning

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Re: The Evil Apple: Did Adam And Eve Really Eat An Apple? by stephnie44(f): 8:20am On Oct 02, 2016
BobUg28:
Adam didn't literally eat apple. He ate what closed Abacha's eyes. grin
so abacha had sex wit dat woman and they called it apple chai

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Re: The Evil Apple: Did Adam And Eve Really Eat An Apple? by southernbelle(f): 8:22am On Oct 02, 2016
Very true.
AreaFada2:
I think we humans are just there believing we understand the Bible. We largely don't. Much of the Bible is not literally what it seems.

Even invoking holy spirit from here to Nagasaki will hardly change it. Instead let's just live a simple life devoid of hate & acrimony, be at peace with oneself & the world around us.
Re: The Evil Apple: Did Adam And Eve Really Eat An Apple? by Emeskhalifa(m): 8:23am On Oct 02, 2016
Vickiweezy:
That's how the story was put for us as kids, but we all know the apple represented sex.
The devil opened their eyes to see the pleasure of sex.
ogar Sir wasn't she (Eve) Adams wife??
or was the sex btwn Satan and Eve?. if yes, how then was Adam part of the sin committed??
Re: The Evil Apple: Did Adam And Eve Really Eat An Apple? by Malakh: 8:23am On Oct 02, 2016
There's no mention of apple in the book, and so there was no apple in the book eaten, the answer to the question is in the book of Numbers , wont tell you pagan xtians the answer because its meant for spiritual Israel, it says the tree of good and evil, well i gat news for you, you've eaten out of this tree so many times and death is what follows.
Re: The Evil Apple: Did Adam And Eve Really Eat An Apple? by koladebrainiac(m): 8:23am On Oct 02, 2016
Proudlyngwa:

The time to have sex was not yet right.
They needed to reach a certain level before they could have sex, how will you feel if your unprepared kids went into the family way

Didnt God remove Eve from Adam bone?
He could be doing that as a means of reproduction

And one can even say the time is not right n the essence of copulation is to make babies
Then Satan should pleasure telling them they can enjoy sex without getting pregnant. So they did it n realized they were naked . they became aware of each other bodies.
Re: The Evil Apple: Did Adam And Eve Really Eat An Apple? by sammied(m): 8:25am On Oct 02, 2016
angelo5uk:
I know many of the people here won't agree with the me.
But I think that story shouldn't be interpreted literally like many other stories in these religious religious texts.
Most of those stories are Esoteric Allegories and didn't happen. They have deep hidden meanings, codes, symbols and lessons in such stories.


Please which esoteric order do you belong? I belong to one... I love your perspective. Will love to know you. Sammydamilola@gmail.com
Re: The Evil Apple: Did Adam And Eve Really Eat An Apple? by Vickiweezy(m): 8:27am On Oct 02, 2016
Emeskhalifa:

ogar Sir wasn't she (Eve) Adams wife??
or was the sex btwn Satan and Eve?. if yes, how then was Adam part of the sin committed??

Na u wed them??
Read the book of Genesis well
Re: The Evil Apple: Did Adam And Eve Really Eat An Apple? by mystical109(m): 8:27am On Oct 02, 2016
Wow.....I have seen a lot already.some re saying that the fruit that God instructed them(Adam nd Eve)not to eat is sex,I'm not too good with the bible but I remember that the fruit is said to b located in the centre of the garden.so,how is it sex?

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Re: The Evil Apple: Did Adam And Eve Really Eat An Apple? by allanphash7(m): 8:28am On Oct 02, 2016
Trash you said ?



I want to believe that you Believe that your god is al knowing ?



If YES then why would he give you a test that he/she has already know that you wont pass and yet still purnish you for failing such test ?




Think about this brother
Proudlyngwa:


Trash
the moral of the story is
1.Obedience.
2. Portion of responsibility
3. Acceptance of mistake
4. Plea for mercy
5. Restitution.

Adam failed all

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Re: The Evil Apple: Did Adam And Eve Really Eat An Apple? by igdgreat(m): 8:30am On Oct 02, 2016
it baffles me that people do think the apple Adam and eve ate was figuratively sex. God created both with a mandate to reproduce and take over the earth. if God didn't want them to have sex, he would have made another means of procreation then. besides, Adam and eve were husband and wife and I don't see anything wrong in a man having sex with the wife. sex is ordained by God. abuse of it is what makes it evil.

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Re: The Evil Apple: Did Adam And Eve Really Eat An Apple? by Proudlyngwa(m): 8:34am On Oct 02, 2016
koladebrainiac:


Didnt God remove Eve from Adam bone?
He could be doing that as a means of reproduction

And one can even say the time is not right n the essence of copulation is to make babies
Then Satan should pleasure telling them they can enjoy sex without getting pregnant. So they did it n realized they were naked . they became aware of each other bodies.
First and foremost, you have to understand that most of genesis 1 to 3 is a metaphor.
Eve being created from Adam's ribs.
Let's ask yourself ,what does ribs do in your body.
The support your frame.
As for the sex part
Proudlyngwa:

Trash
the moral of the story is
1.Obedience.
2. Portion of responsibility
3. Acceptance of mistake
4. Plea for mercy
5. Restitution.
Adam failed all
Re: The Evil Apple: Did Adam And Eve Really Eat An Apple? by ElsonMorali: 8:34am On Oct 02, 2016
Vickiweezy:
That's how the story was put for us as kids, but we all know the apple represented sex.
The devil opened their eyes to see the pleasure of sex.

Wrong. It isn't sex. God created them and asked them to multiply. Surely not by vomiting their kids.
Re: The Evil Apple: Did Adam And Eve Really Eat An Apple? by pikapizy(m): 8:37am On Oct 02, 2016
WHOcarex:
But when God created them He said they should go into the world and multiply. How were they supposed to do that without sex??
one of the few people thinking with his head . the bible went further to say least they put forth their hand and eat of the tree of life too and become like God . was that refering to another sex ? Funny how ignorant people claim superwise .. research what you don't know .. Earth was created to be an extension of Heaven . it was supposed to be a colony of Heaven but man broke forth to have his independent . he became fully in charge of his choices . a revolution broke forth

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Re: The Evil Apple: Did Adam And Eve Really Eat An Apple? by Proudlyngwa(m): 8:38am On Oct 02, 2016
allanphash7:
Trash you said ?



I want to believe that you Believe that your god is al knowing ?



If YES then why would he give you a test that he/she has already know that you wont pass and yet still purnish you for failing such test ?




Think about this brother
The Almighty God is all knowing but not in the way he is portrayed.

Man was given free will, without that he will have no claim to be the lord of creations.
Bottom line Adam bleeped up.
Re: The Evil Apple: Did Adam And Eve Really Eat An Apple? by Nobody: 8:38am On Oct 02, 2016
allanphash7:

Adam and eve knew nothing like right or wrong, they had no advanced knowledge of things before eating the fruit..

(Going by the story)
-If they didn't eat the fruit, we would probably be walking around unclad without knowing right from wrong or why lightening flash because we have no knowledge advanced enough for that..

Thats a cool story..

-So eve ate the tree of knowledge and by that one act her eyes were opened to the door of knowledge
(And God was mad? 
why? 
He needs robots and not people with knowledge?) Then why put the tree there.?

- Here God was against Knowledge but the snake whispered the first few words of learning into eve's ears, showed her the path to knowledge, the ability to understand which God didn't want her to know in the first place.

Who really is the Villain here.?

- According to the story Adam and Eve had no knowledge of Good and evil before eating the fruit meaning Eve didn't even know she was committing evil by eating the fruit but she was punished for her naivety.

I wonder how Eve could be out witted by a snake if she really had real homo sapiens brain, showing Eve was just a moroni_c pound of flesh walking around..

- God knew he didn't want the fruit eaten but he just had to put the fruit in front of them..
(I got rat poison biscuit, i know it's not good then i place it in front of my children and tell them not to eat it and get angry when they do?... Who dah fvck was supposed to be blamed..

Me or my children..

- And nobody is remembering there was a tree that could give eternal life.. (Immortality ) Cool story..

-Going by the omniscient principle, God knew before hand they would eat the fruit then was angry they did even though he put the tree there.. 

-It takes a special kind of crazy to believe such tales but well when a whole bunch of people believe it, we call it religion but if it were one person we would say he is crazy.

I think any right mind would agree that we must all Question the idea of a God who creates faulty humans then blames them for his own mistakes and still bears a grudge till now even on innocent children..

Such grudge bearing supreme being is not only childish but stark absurd..

Nobody was born a sin or sinner, somebody fvcking lied, its high time people realized that...


If you're ever in Port Harcourt and want a free drink and conversation, call me abeg.

I like people wey dey use their head...

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Re: The Evil Apple: Did Adam And Eve Really Eat An Apple? by allanphash7(m): 8:41am On Oct 02, 2016
Not in PH and i have never been there




How i wish you base in Lagos aswell




Thanks for the offer





Always be good brother
og2711:



If you're ever in Port Harcourt and want a free drink and conversation, call me abeg.

I like people wey dey use their head...

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Re: The Evil Apple: Did Adam And Eve Really Eat An Apple? by oteneaaron(m): 8:42am On Oct 02, 2016
MadCow1:
My only problem is why was God against Mankind having the knowledge of good and evil?



And why has he stayed pissed off with mankind since that time till now over 5000 years .. undecided

And how cam you say he is all forgiving when he has not sent man back to Eden to start all over?

Why did it take his Son coming to die first before he started considering forgiving us?

Pfft...


I will try not to say what will be termed blasphemy.....

But we should all know that.....God has worship issues.....

He wants everyone to worship him....no questions.....just worship......

Some may ask, so what's the use of Freewill?



I see sin as a necessary Evil......

without it......the wahala of Jesus coming. and our indebtedness to him.......Faith........and Prayer

It was all Planned...

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Re: The Evil Apple: Did Adam And Eve Really Eat An Apple? by allanphash7(m): 8:45am On Oct 02, 2016
Brother You and i know that the story of Adam and Eve was not TRUE but the fact remains that you are acting on what you are told or you are still scared of askimg questions




Bro try and ask question and live without fear




Be good
Proudlyngwa:

The Almighty God is all knowing but not in the way he is portrayed.

Man was given free will, without that he will have no claim to be the lord of creations.
Bottom line Adam bleeped up.

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Re: The Evil Apple: Did Adam And Eve Really Eat An Apple? by Figs(m): 8:48am On Oct 02, 2016
Vickiweezy:
That's how the story was put for us as kids, but we all know the apple represented sex.
The devil opened their eyes to see the pleasure of sex.
u ar grossly wrng

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