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Re: The Evil Apple: Did Adam And Eve Really Eat An Apple? by Vickiweezy(m): 8:13pm On Oct 02, 2016 |
jstriker442: Don't misquote me.. i never said i go to church more than any other person, Lemme tell u something, i no read bible pass anybody but i understand it better than most people like u. I'm not down for any argument with u cos the winner won't receive a prize money. I've never read all books in the bible, not even completed 2 books in it but i've read one which makes my understanding firm. My advice to you is get a Good News Bible & read the book of Sirach from the beginning to the end. Whenever u're done, u don't need to let me know.. i bet u, u would read it again and again and again... and u will thank me forever. |
Re: The Evil Apple: Did Adam And Eve Really Eat An Apple? by Nobody: 8:41pm On Oct 02, 2016 |
gen 4:1 clearly states Adam slept with eve and gave birth to Cain..d more reason Cain is Neva mentioned is because he was banished for killing Abel same way ham is hardly mentioned among d descendants of Noah cos of his own act which led to his dismissal..for those quoting d new testament as proof of Satan being Cains father let me ask u a question then..Jude 1;14 states enoch is the 7th from adam so does that mean seth manufactured kids from d sky??the answer is no cos Adam also had other kids apart from Seth..for the guy above me mentioning sirach,kindly read d book of jubilees also. |
Re: The Evil Apple: Did Adam And Eve Really Eat An Apple? by aluku5: 8:45pm On Oct 02, 2016 |
pikapizy:How could earth be an extension of heaven, when we were told Satan was thrown of heaven, don't you think Satan was on earth prior man's sin. |
Re: The Evil Apple: Did Adam And Eve Really Eat An Apple? by LastProphet: 10:10pm On Oct 02, 2016 |
jstriker442: if u tink i didn't read the bible before saying that then u must be very naive in thinking. what am trying hard not to tell u is that i have read beyond the bible. i hope u don't want to open the lame talk about how the bible is totally complete? if u do that i shall have to interview u before i respond to u again. |
Re: The Evil Apple: Did Adam And Eve Really Eat An Apple? by LordXaaan: 11:04pm On Oct 02, 2016 |
reeblaze:Man you are officially the most myopic mind on this thread. |
Re: The Evil Apple: Did Adam And Eve Really Eat An Apple? by LordXaaan: 11:13pm On Oct 02, 2016 |
KingAdegoke:see me tomorow morning and collect your American visa hahahaha americana |
Re: The Evil Apple: Did Adam And Eve Really Eat An Apple? by reeblaze(m): 9:44pm On Oct 03, 2016 |
LordXaaan:If yhu don't understand fact hidden in parables.....shut up and listen...... |
Re: The Evil Apple: Did Adam And Eve Really Eat An Apple? by buffalowings: 9:57am On Oct 08, 2016 |
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Re: The Evil Apple: Did Adam And Eve Really Eat An Apple? by notoriousbabe: 12:39pm On Oct 08, 2016 |
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Re: The Evil Apple: Did Adam And Eve Really Eat An Apple? by buffalowings: 12:47pm On Oct 08, 2016 |
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Re: The Evil Apple: Did Adam And Eve Really Eat An Apple? by notoriousbabe: 2:49pm On Oct 08, 2016 |
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Re: The Evil Apple: Did Adam And Eve Really Eat An Apple? by amsoslim(m): 11:16pm On Oct 14, 2016 |
stancydg: LoveJesus87: mpeg: nocosomia: lordmayor2013: bugzygee: lordmayor2013:All the confusion of thought and conflicting exegesis have arisen from taking literally what is expressed by Figures, or from taking figuratively what is literal. A Figure of speech is never used except for the purpose of calling attention to, emphasising, and intensifying, the reality of the literal sense, and the truth of the historical facts; so that, while the words employed may not be so strictly true to the letter, they are all the more true to the truth conveyed by them, and to the historical events connected with them. But for the figurative language of verses 14 and 15 no one would have thought of referring the third chapter of Genesis to a snake: no more than he does when reading the third chapter from the end of Revelation (chapter 20:2). Indeed, the explanation added there, that the "old serpent" is the Devil and Satan, would immediately lead one to connect the word "old" with the earlier and former mention of the serpent in Genesis 3: and the fact that it was Satan himself who tempted "the second man", "the last Adam", would force the conclusion that no other than the personal Satan could have been the tempter of "the first man, Adam". The Hebrew word rendered "serpent" in Genesis 3:1 is Nachash (from the root Nachash, to shine), and means a shinning one. Hence, in Chaldee it means brass or copper, because of its shining. Hence also, the word Nehushtan, a piece of brass, in 2Kings 18:4. In the same way Saraph, in Isaiah 6:2, 6, means a burning one, and, because the serpents mentioned in Numbers 21 were burning, in the poison of their bite, they were called Saraphim, or Seraphs. But when the LORD said unto Moses, "Make thee a fiery serpent" (Numbers 21:, He said, "Make thee a Saraph", and, in obeying this command, we read in verse 9, "Moses made a Nachash of brass". Nachash is thus used as being interchangeable with Saraph. Now, if Saraph is used of a serpent because its bite was burning, and is also used of a celestial or spirit-being (a burning one), why should not Nachash be used of a serpent because its appearance was shining, and be also used of a celestial or spirit-being (a shining one)? Indeed, a reference to the structure of Genesis 3 (on page 7 of the Companion Bible) will show that the Cherubim (which are similar celestial or spirit-beings) of the last verse (Genesis 3:24) require a similar spirit-being to correspond with them in the first verse (for the structure of the whole chapter is a great Introversion). The Nachash, or serpent, who beguiled Eve (2Corinthians 11:3) is spoken of as "an angel of light" in verse 14. Have we not, in this, a clear intimation that it was not a snake, but a glorious shining being, apparently an angel, to whom Eve paid such great deference, acknowledging him as one who seemed to possess superior knowledge, and who was evidently a being of a superior (not of an inferior) order? Moreover, in the description of Satan as "the king of Tyre" ¹ it is distinctly implied that the latter being was of a super-natural order when he is called "a cherub" (Ezekiel ____________________________ ¹ Ezekiel 28:11-19, who is quite a different being from "the Prince of Tyre", in verses 1-10 who is purely human. 28:14, 16, read from verses 11-19). His presence "in Eden, the garden of 'Elohim" (verse 13), is also clearly stated, as well as his being "perfect in beauty" (verse 12), his being "perfect in his ways from the day he was created till iniquity was found in him" (verse 15), and as being "lifted up because of his beauty" (verse 17). These all compel the belief that Satan was the shining one (Nachash) in Genesis 3, and especially because the following words could be addressed to him:—"Thine heart was lifted up because of thy beauty, thou hast corrupted thy wisdom by reason of thy brightness: I will cast thee to the ground, I will lay thee before kings, that they may behold thee" (verse 17). Even supposing that these things were spoken to, and of, an exalted human being in later days (Ezekiel 28), still "the king of Tyre" is not compared to a being who was non-existent; and facts and circumstances which never happened are not introduced into the comparison. There is more about "the king of Tyre" in Ezekiel 28:11-19 than was literally true of "the prince of Tyre" (verses 1-10). The words can be understood only of the mightiest and most exalted supernatural being that God ever created; and this for the purpose of showing how great would be his fall. The history must be true to make the prophecy of any weight. with this it is suffice to say the snake came in form of a being to lay eve |
Re: The Evil Apple: Did Adam And Eve Really Eat An Apple? by Nobody: 8:37pm On Oct 24, 2016 |
KingAdegoke: Dead |
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