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Re: For Atheist: Come And Tell Us How Man Came Into Existence by Deicide: 5:12pm On Oct 17, 2016
blueAgent:



Clown. how can matter be created from nothing?

Matter and energy are different things which must come from something .They cannot just appear.

Energy itself cannot exist without it been established. their is no gravity on the moon can your Scientist establish or create gravity there? NO
Re: For Atheist: Come And Tell Us How Man Came Into Existence by Deicide: 5:17pm On Oct 17, 2016
Wilgrea7:
if atheists can explain miracles, complexity of the universe and evolution theory for me then i will believe


No one is asking you to believe anything by the way ever heard of Google.com??


but they've not given me any concrete proof either that nothing exploded to form something as complex as this.

i await the explanations
No one ever said this
Re: For Atheist: Come And Tell Us How Man Came Into Existence by flamingREED(m): 5:17pm On Oct 17, 2016
AgentOfAllah:


Dear RabbaRabbi, the way your question is framed suggests one either ought to know the origins of man; or, otherwise believe that god did it. There couldn't be a more flawed attempt at seeking answers. In seeking answers, you must also be open to the many other possibilities that abound. For example, man may have emerged from the failed experiment of advanced alien species, man may be the descendants of old world apes, man may have been involved in a teleportation experiment from another universe, man may be the highly intelligent project of the devil that god has decided to colonise out of spite and jealousy. Also, the answer could just simply be "I don't know!". So why compel people to pick sides in a false dichotomy?

At any rate, to me, the most compelling theory on the origins of man is as outlined by the theory of evolution. This theory has made use of a panoply of mutually exclusive bodies of facts; including genetics, anatomy and physiology, fossil records, behavioral biology and lab experiments to come up with a coherent and compelling narrative about our origins. In the circumstances, I have no reason to reject the proposition that we come from an old world ape that is a common ancestor to other existing apes too. If a definitive proof against evolution surfaces, I will very promptly discard it, and maybe adopt a more compelling answer, supposing one were to come along. But I don't feel compelled to know the origin of man as you do OP.

It's not like you're more of a scientist than Christians.

Simply tell us,

How did man come into existence?
Re: For Atheist: Come And Tell Us How Man Came Into Existence by Nobody: 5:19pm On Oct 17, 2016
From my observation, atheism has nothing to do with reason.
Nairaland atheists have failed to prove their claim but instead resulted to insults, name calling and fallacies they cannot prove!
Re: For Atheist: Come And Tell Us How Man Came Into Existence by Deicide: 5:22pm On Oct 17, 2016
solite3:
From my observation, atheism has nothing to do with reason.
Nairaland atheists have failed to prove their claim but instead results to insults, name calling and fallacies they cannot prove!
Which Claim?
Re: For Atheist: Come And Tell Us How Man Came Into Existence by Deicide: 5:23pm On Oct 17, 2016
flamingREED:

It's not like you're more of a scientist than Christians.
Simply tell us,
How did man come into existence?
How did Dogs Come into existence?
Re: For Atheist: Come And Tell Us How Man Came Into Existence by Nobody: 5:24pm On Oct 17, 2016
Deicide:

Which Claim?
your claim that there is no God
Re: For Atheist: Come And Tell Us How Man Came Into Existence by Deicide: 5:26pm On Oct 17, 2016
solite3:
your claim that there is no God
And what is ur problem with that? u guys Said their is A God Prove it! all Atheist are just doing is Sitting down to Watch until you Guys who made the Claim can prove it
Re: For Atheist: Come And Tell Us How Man Came Into Existence by flamingREED(m): 5:27pm On Oct 17, 2016
Deicide:

How did Dogs Come into existence?

Don't derail the thread.

Tell us point-blank how man came into existence.
Re: For Atheist: Come And Tell Us How Man Came Into Existence by Deicide: 5:28pm On Oct 17, 2016
flamingREED:

Don't derail the thread.
Tell us point-blank how man came into existence.
If you knew How Dogs Came into existence You'll know how Man Came
Re: For Atheist: Come And Tell Us How Man Came Into Existence by flamingREED(m): 5:30pm On Oct 17, 2016
Deicide:

And what is ur problem with that? u guys Said their is A God Prove it! all Atheist are just doing is Sitting down to Watch until you Guys who made the Claim can prove it

Kumuyi went to atheist Russia and performed miracles before their eyes and camera.

You can help your hell-bound soul by attending his crusade and monitoring things yourself.
Re: For Atheist: Come And Tell Us How Man Came Into Existence by Deicide: 5:33pm On Oct 17, 2016
flamingREED:


Kumuyi went to atheist Russia and performed miracles before their eyes and camera.

You can help your hell-bound soul by attending his crusade and monitoring things yourself.
Did he heal any Amputees?
Re: For Atheist: Come And Tell Us How Man Came Into Existence by flamingREED(m): 5:38pm On Oct 17, 2016
jonbellion:
Atheism and science aren't the same thing science is based on continuous observation and experimentation of the world around us it's just there were a lot of rekigiys scientists back in the day however they were religious cuz of the fact that they reached the limits of their scientific discoveries at that time now science has gone a long way and most of the things that were left as only explained by"God" are cancelled out as new discoveries are made. The God of the gaps argument.basically as Neil degrasse Tyson put it"if you want to keep on leaving things those can't be explained to God then God will remain a receedimg pocket of scientific ignorance as time goes on"

What has your science explained?
grin

Or have you seen an RNA polymerase before?
Science is more and more confounded by its attempt to reach the height of knowledge and depth of knowledge.

At Most, knowledge will continue to be bottomless to scientists because God is the origin of knowledge
Re: For Atheist: Come And Tell Us How Man Came Into Existence by flamingREED(m): 5:40pm On Oct 17, 2016
Deicide:

Did he heal any Amputees?

Read about Kumuyi's miracles.

You may find some.

But surely, unequal limbs equalise often at his crusades.
Re: For Atheist: Come And Tell Us How Man Came Into Existence by hopefulLandlord: 5:40pm On Oct 17, 2016
flamingREED:


Kumuyi went to atheist Russia and performed miracles before their eyes and camera.

You can help your hell-bound soul by attending his crusade and monitoring things yourself.

is it a limb growing miracle?
Re: For Atheist: Come And Tell Us How Man Came Into Existence by hopefulLandlord: 5:41pm On Oct 17, 2016
flamingREED:


Read about Kumuyi's miracles.

You may find some.

But surely, unequal limbs equalise often at his crusades.

video of the limb equalising or ........
Re: For Atheist: Come And Tell Us How Man Came Into Existence by Deicide: 5:42pm On Oct 17, 2016
flamingREED:


Read about Kumuyi's miracles.

You may find some.

But surely, unequal limbs equalise often at his crusades.
..
Answer the Damn Question Did he heal Amputee? Yes/No I am not interested in Staged Miracle
Re: For Atheist: Come And Tell Us How Man Came Into Existence by flamingREED(m): 5:44pm On Oct 17, 2016
AgentOfAllah:

Water originates from dead stars. Most stars, during their life time, manufacture the elements on the periodic table, from Hydrogen (H) to Iron (Fe), so it is fair to say old stars have the basic ingredients required to manufacture water (H2O). Certain stars however, when they die, they do so in a spectacular burst of energy large enough to offset the energetic requirements for the spontaneous formation of many of the compounds and molecules we consider naturally occurring today. Water is one of those molecules. Hydrogen, Helium and Oxygen are three of the most abundant elements in the universe, by mass. That makes water - which happens to be one of the lowest energy configurations of Hydrogen and Oxygen - automatically abundant in the universe too.

As a side note, atheists don't claim to "know much science". Atheists claim to lack belief in a deity. The lack of belief in a deity doesn't qualify one as a scientist. You actually have to study science to know science...and as you can imagine, this endeavour is independent of one's personal beliefs (or lack thereof).

So, water ceased to be formed.

Please, where can water be found outside the earth?

At what galaxy?
At what dying star?
Re: For Atheist: Come And Tell Us How Man Came Into Existence by flamingREED(m): 5:48pm On Oct 17, 2016
Deicide:
..
Answer the Damn Question Did he heal Amputee? Yes/No I am not interested in Staged Miracle

What's the big difference between amputated limbs and unequal limbs.

Not much. And,

How do you know they were staged?

Why not take ten amputees to his crusade and have a first-hand evidence that he doesn't heal them.

I assure you that you'll be surprised.
Re: For Atheist: Come And Tell Us How Man Came Into Existence by Deicide: 5:48pm On Oct 17, 2016
flamingREED:

So, water ceased to be formed.
Please, where can water be found outside the earth?
At what galaxy? At what dying star?
. Guy stop Exposing Your ignorance
Re: For Atheist: Come And Tell Us How Man Came Into Existence by Deicide: 5:51pm On Oct 17, 2016
flamingREED:


What's the big difference between amputated limbs and unequal limbs.

Not much. And,

How do you know they were staged?

Why not take ten amputees to his crusade and have a first-hand evidence that he doesn't heal them.

I assure you that you'll be surprised.
Guy kumuyi has never healed anyone from Anything And by the way m just from the internet Pls when Did kumuyi go to Russia? I'll like the Link tank you
Re: For Atheist: Come And Tell Us How Man Came Into Existence by flamingREED(m): 5:55pm On Oct 17, 2016
hopefulLandlord:


video of the limb equalising or ........

Now,
Just early this month
Over 50 000 people attended his crusade in PH.

The stadium was filled to capacity with an overflow.

Why don't you take amputees with you to his crusade and save your world the Jesus craze?
Re: For Atheist: Come And Tell Us How Man Came Into Existence by Nobody: 5:56pm On Oct 17, 2016
[quote author=Deicide post=50281970]
And what is ur problem with that? u guys Said their is A God Prove it! all Atheist are just doing is Sitting down to Watch until you Guys who made the Claim can prove it[/quote]
undecided what type of proof do you want?mtscheeew! You got prob ! Theist already told you God is outside man! OK prove there is no God
Re: For Atheist: Come And Tell Us How Man Came Into Existence by flamingREED(m): 5:57pm On Oct 17, 2016
Deicide:
.
Guy stop Exposing Your ignorance

Tell me where water is found outside the earth.

You think you're more scientist than me?
Re: For Atheist: Come And Tell Us How Man Came Into Existence by EyeHateGod: 6:07pm On Oct 17, 2016
flamingREED:


Tell me where water is found outside the earth.

You think you're more scientist than me?
Water vapour has been found outside space!

http://www.universetoday.com/87669/huge-resevoir-of-water-discovered-in-space-30-billion-trillion-miles-away/
Re: For Atheist: Come And Tell Us How Man Came Into Existence by EyeHateGod: 6:09pm On Oct 17, 2016
[quote author=solite3 post=50282826][/quote]
I did not make the Claim that there is A God you theist Did Now prove That God is Outside man! the one that made the claim should prove it!
Re: For Atheist: Come And Tell Us How Man Came Into Existence by AgentOfAllah: 6:21pm On Oct 17, 2016
blueAgent:

Clown. how can matter be created from nothing?
Where did I write nothing? According to BlueAgent's law of physics, high energy photon is nothing! OK oo!

Matter and energy are different things which must come from something .They cannot just appear.
Erm...actually, they are not different! Matter is a form of energy. Which is why E(nergy)=m(ass of matter) X c2. Pay attention is school

Energy itself cannot exist without it been established.
Straw man

their is no gravity on the moon can your Scientist establish or create gravity there? NO
So there is no gravity on the moon? Then what causes tides on earth?
Re: For Atheist: Come And Tell Us How Man Came Into Existence by AgentOfAllah: 6:24pm On Oct 17, 2016
flamingREED:

It's not like you're more of a scientist than Christians.
Exactly what I've been saying for a long time. Someone gets me, finally!

Simply tell us,

How did man come into existence?
My answer is staring you right in the face..I mean, you literally quoted it!
Re: For Atheist: Come And Tell Us How Man Came Into Existence by AgentOfAllah: 6:33pm On Oct 17, 2016
flamingREED:

So, water ceased to be formed.
Says who? Show me a supernova, and I'll show you baby water.

Please, where can water be found outside the earth?

At what galaxy?
At what dying star?
You needn't look far. Water is practically on every comet gallivanting around our solar system. We know this because water has a unique absorption spectrum when certain wavelengths of light pass through it. With the help of a pretty nifty device known as a spectrometer, we can make out the exact absorption profile of all the materials being transported by a comet. From this, we can tell if it has water or not. The evidence from experiments show definitively, that water exists on/in those comets. Water is also on mars and many other planets (some are even completely made of ice).

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Re: For Atheist: Come And Tell Us How Man Came Into Existence by blueAgent(m): 6:39pm On Oct 17, 2016
AgentOfAllah:
Where did I write nothing? According to BlueAgent's law of physics, high energy photon is nothing! OK oo!

Erm...actually, they are not different! Matter is a form of energy. Which is why E(nergy)=m(ass of matter) X c2. Pay attention is school

Straw man

So there is no gravity on the moon? Then what causes tides on earth?


Clown if their is gravity on the Moon, why do Astronuts experience weightlessness on the moon?

Matter can exist independent of Energy. my question is where did matter come from? same with energy?
Re: For Atheist: Come And Tell Us How Man Came Into Existence by flamingREED(m): 8:54pm On Oct 17, 2016
AgentOfAllah:
Says who? Show me a supernova, and I'll show you baby water.

You needn't look far. Water is practically on every comet gallivanting around our solar system. We know this because water has a unique absorption spectrum when certain wavelengths of light pass through it. With the help of a pretty nifty device known as a spectrometer, we can make out the exact absorption profile of all the materials being transported by a comet. From this, we can tell if it has water or not. The evidence from experiments show definitively, that water exists on/in those comets. Water is also on mars and many other planets (some are even completely made of ice).

Water is on mars?

CHAI!!!

can you go with your speculations?

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