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Problem: My Reverse Gear Gives A Scary Jerk With A Sound. by igbsam(m): 3:56pm On Aug 15, 2012
I drive a Honda Accord 2003 V6 Engine Car (EOD). I noticed that anytime i put my car in the reverse gear, I get a strong jerk dat comes with a scary loud sound (Gbi)with the whole car shaking along with the jerk. I had the mechanic check all the engine seats and all, but still, it does that. Please what could be the cause. You response will be highly appreciated.
Re: Problem: My Reverse Gear Gives A Scary Jerk With A Sound. by yungboss(m): 7:16pm On Aug 15, 2012
could this be the trademark gearbox problem of the honda?

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Re: Problem: My Reverse Gear Gives A Scary Jerk With A Sound. by igbsam(m): 6:40am On Aug 16, 2012
yungboss: could this be the trademark gearbox problem of the honda?
Thats what i really wished to know. But when i turned it on D and other gear, it enters fine. But it has to do with the reverse only.
Re: Problem: My Reverse Gear Gives A Scary Jerk With A Sound. by yungboss(m): 7:20am On Aug 16, 2012
igbsam:
Thats what i really wished to know. But when i turned it on D and other gear, it enters fine. But it has to do with the reverse only.
We need experts' opinion on this, i'm no expert. I think you should take it to a competent technician to get it serviced, as this sounds like a sign of a major problem.
Re: Problem: My Reverse Gear Gives A Scary Jerk With A Sound. by cretin: 10:05am On Aug 16, 2012
did u by any chance change ur transmission fluid recently?..if yes then u probablly didnt replace with the correct honda certified transmission fluid.....

2. ur transmission is about failing...soon it wud stop entering reverse at all.

i would adcive you to replace ur transmission fluid asap..wash the filter throughly with petrol n allow to dry...then fill up with original honda atf ......if the problem persists...then u probally should be looking at buying a new gearbox soon.

nb: give a lil history of the car..fresh toks..naija used etc
Re: Problem: My Reverse Gear Gives A Scary Jerk With A Sound. by Nobody: 7:30pm On Aug 16, 2012
igbsam: I drive a Honda Accord 2003 V6 Engine Car (EOD). I noticed that anytime i put my car in the reverse gear, I get a strong jerk dat comes with a scary loud sound (Gbi)with the whole car shaking along with the jerk. I had the mechanic check all the engine seats and all, but still, it does that. Please what could be the cause. You response will be highly appreciated.
Have you checked the transmission mounts? Or is that what you referred to as engine seats?
Re: Problem: My Reverse Gear Gives A Scary Jerk With A Sound. by femmy2010(m): 10:21pm On Aug 16, 2012
Allow a competant mechanic clean the gear filter first.

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Re: Problem: My Reverse Gear Gives A Scary Jerk With A Sound. by igbsam(m): 11:07pm On Aug 16, 2012
Costee:
Have you checked the transmission mounts? Or is that what you referred to as engine seats?
I checked the Transmission mounts, and noticed some where bad, I had them changed, but it reduced a little, yet i still get the jerking.
Re: Problem: My Reverse Gear Gives A Scary Jerk With A Sound. by igbsam(m): 11:09pm On Aug 16, 2012
cretin: did u by any chance change ur transmission fluid recently?..if yes then u probablly didnt replace with the correct honda certified transmission fluid.....

2. ur transmission is about failing...soon it wud stop entering reverse at all.

i would adcive you to replace ur transmission fluid asap..wash the filter throughly with petrol n allow to dry...then fill up with original honda atf ......if the problem persists...then u probally should be looking at buying a new gearbox soon.

nb: give a lil history of the car..fresh toks..naija used etc
femmy2010: Allow a competant mechanic clean the gear filter first.
Will do this first thing tomorrow and i will get back to you guys. Thanks
Re: Problem: My Reverse Gear Gives A Scary Jerk With A Sound. by Trac: 10:36pm On Aug 17, 2012
It is time for an overhaul. The band is worn-out and sooner or later, you will break the piston and have no reverse.

It is a service that requires to be meticulous. You have three options:

- Ditch the car and get another
- Have it overhauled to spec (there is only one way to do this and it is the right way. Anything else will either fail or not run right)
- Replace the transmission (this is a costly but short term solution)

I don't know the layout of the vehicle in question but if it is like the vehicles I am accustomed to, while the transmission is down, you might as well change the engine rear-main seals (that is if you will overhaul it). If you don't have much of a sentimental value to the vehicle, get rid of it. Honda's have questionable transmission reliability per set time (and it is not an opinion).
Re: Problem: My Reverse Gear Gives A Scary Jerk With A Sound. by vodkat: 2:22am On Aug 18, 2012
Ur transmission is about 2 go and can happen unexpectedly. Or it cud be the linkage,Start searching for new transmission or better Yet change the car.
Re: Problem: My Reverse Gear Gives A Scary Jerk With A Sound. by teskyg: 9:06pm On Aug 20, 2012
Its the enjine seat.Your Mechanic should have told you.
Re: Problem: My Reverse Gear Gives A Scary Jerk With A Sound. by Nobody: 6:37am On Aug 21, 2012
i had a similar problem with my Toyota Lexus RX300. It engages on drive and rolls smoothly but on reverse nowhere
i took it to my mechanic..he cleaned the filter, changed transmission fluid to no avail.At last i was left with no other option than
change the transmission system(gear). its ok now...so jst budget for ur transmission replacement

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Re: Problem: My Reverse Gear Gives A Scary Jerk With A Sound. by Burger01(m): 6:10pm On Aug 21, 2012
Transmission is about failing. And, make sure you use the correct gear fluid specification of ur baby boy. Goodluck.
Re: Problem: My Reverse Gear Gives A Scary Jerk With A Sound. by Areaboy2(m): 12:07am On Aug 22, 2012
Awwwww. I had basically the same car but the 2005 model. and i'm sure they carry the same engine and gearbox so I can chip in here very well.


After my first gearbox died, (long story how that one died. and It died suddenly with no warning) I replaced it and used the new one for quite a while before it started another round of problems. It was having weird lag(delay) changing from gear 2 - 3 and sometimes not changing at all. then suddenly, the all dreaded flashing " D" light began. this normally comes on to indicate the gearbox is having an issue.

I had it checked and they decided to service something called a solenoid ( I frankly cant remember the name of that stuff but lets go with solenoid for now), 4 of them had to be checked individually and the mechanic didn't notice anything odd.

Long story short, I had to run diagnostics on the car and it indicated a particular "solenoid" (1 out of the 4) as the culprit. Had it replaced and still no luck. Then a guy referred me to someone who could rebuild the gearbox.

4 days and 50k later he completely rebuilt the gear box and then I started noticing that "clicking" sound when engaging reverse gear you complain about in your post. This sound was accompanied by a slight jerk ( I bet not as much as yours), but I managed it that way until I passed the car over to my brother. this was in 2009 and that gearbox is still holding on until now with the same symptoms. not getting worse not getting better lol.


So my Suggestions are as follows:

1) first run a brand new transmission fluid into your gear box and hope it helps. I have a friend where this worked perfectly for him (this is by far the cheapest and better start with this step)
2) Run a diagnostic test. You cant afford to do the guessing game here it will cost so much and you may still end up doing this. so if your mechanic has the tool, all good or else get someone who can do it.
3) Depending on the result from 2 above, you can manage this problem until you can save up for a new gear box. <-- best solution


Ways to manage this problem

1) always have the car at a complete stop before engaging reverse gear.
2) Limit your acceleration ( I know this v6 is not sitting about for anyone, but try to stress it less)
3) Try to maintain your rev at around 2000rpm (or "2" on the dial). this reduces the dynamic stress on the gearbox
4) Don't bother with gear numbers 3, 2, always leave it in D
5) you don't!!! SELL THE CAR tongue

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Re: Problem: My Reverse Gear Gives A Scary Jerk With A Sound. by mdautotec(m): 2:45pm On Aug 22, 2012
Reverse gear synchronizer worn (high pithed grinding/thumping sound), along with friction discs in the clutch drum housing.

First logical thing to do is replace the transmission fluid with either Honda ATF Z1 or a comparable synthetic fluid (not filling station ATF). Although this may not solve the issue. There is no use to change the transmission filter at this point as this will involve removal and opening of the gear box case. It is not like some Toyota transmissions where you can drop the transmission pan and change the filter from underneath the vehicle. Although this is your decision whether you wish to drop the gearbox and change the filter, but do ensure you have a competent technician to handle it. You will need to change the gearbox shaft seals (L + R) and the rear engine oil seal (flywheel side) before mounting the gearbox back.

After replacement of transmission fluid, if problem still persists the gearbox will need to be removed and replaced or either overhauled (at this time the transmission filter and various other seals should be changed) with the above mentioned components (synchronizer, friction discs inside clutch drum etc.). The transmission valve body will also require service OR REPLACEMENT if essential.

DO NOT venture into overhaul if your mechanic doesn't have the experience. It is a specific, detailed, time consuming and expensive affair. 30 - 40,000 will not overhaul the gear as per manufacturer's specification to obtain the right result.

Good luck!
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Re: Problem: My Reverse Gear Gives A Scary Jerk With A Sound. by otunbakolawole(m): 12:04am On Oct 22, 2016
hello bros, how did you solve this problem?
igbsam:
I drive a Honda Accord 2003 V6 Engine Car (EOD). I noticed that anytime i put my car in the reverse gear, I get a strong jerk dat comes with a scary loud sound (Gbi)with the whole car shaking along with the jerk. I had the mechanic check all the engine seats and all, but still, it does that. Please what could be the cause. You response will be highly appreciated.
Re: Problem: My Reverse Gear Gives A Scary Jerk With A Sound. by igbsam(m): 7:45am On Oct 22, 2016
otunbakolawole:
hello bros, how did you solve this problem?

Have them check your gear sensors. One of them seems to be malfunctioning. This is after you must have confirmed that all the engine seats and gear seats are intact and okay. If one is bad, then you have to change it. But if all of them seems to be okay, then one of the gear sensor is the culprit.

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Re: Problem: My Reverse Gear Gives A Scary Jerk With A Sound. by adeolajire(m): 6:04pm On Mar 22, 2018
igbsam:
I drive a Honda Accord 2003 V6 Engine Car (EOD). I noticed that anytime i put my car in the reverse gear, I get a strong jerk dat comes with a scary loud sound (Gbi)with the whole car shaking along with the jerk. I had the mechanic check all the engine seats and all, but still, it does that. Please what could be the cause. You response will be highly appreciated.

Please could you recommend the mechanic who fixed this issue to me because i currently have this same problem with my car.
Re: Problem: My Reverse Gear Gives A Scary Jerk With A Sound. by igbsam(m): 4:48am On Mar 26, 2018
adeolajire:


Please could you recommend the mechanic who fixed this issue to me because i currently have this same problem with my car.

Bad spark plugs
Re: Problem: My Reverse Gear Gives A Scary Jerk With A Sound. by Damileskywealth: 11:53pm On Jan 03, 2019
Yea i also have the problem with my honda accord baby boy
But my own jerks and give scary sound while selecting from gear 1 to 2 pls what will i do i really need your advice maybe i should change the gear box or i should take it for servicing
Re: Problem: My Reverse Gear Gives A Scary Jerk With A Sound. by franklin93(m): 10:02pm On Jan 04, 2020
Valvebody needs to be checked. More so, your transmission oil pressure switch need to be checked & replace if need be. Biggest culprit is the gearbox sensor attached to the body of the gearbox. Sometimes they have 6 bolts or more.
Re: Problem: My Reverse Gear Gives A Scary Jerk With A Sound. by biznessman(m): 9:59pm On Nov 12, 2021
Pls I'm experiencing this issue (strong jerk, and sound with vibration while put into reverse) with a 2003 toyota rav4, can anyone recommend a very good technician in Lagos preferably on the maintained, thank u
Re: Problem: My Reverse Gear Gives A Scary Jerk With A Sound. by Dozieson(m): 5:54am On Nov 13, 2021
biznessman:
Pls I'm experiencing this issue (strong jerk, and sound with vibration while put into reverse) with a 2003 toyota rav4, can anyone recommend a very good technician in Lagos preferably on the maintained, thank u

Scan the car first
Re: Problem: My Reverse Gear Gives A Scary Jerk With A Sound. by Lexius: 10:25am On Mar 18, 2023
I think I'm having same issue, I bought the car a month ago, they previous own told me he had just changed the gear fluid and even the engine oil, after a a few days, I began to notice this jerk sound whenever I'm changing from reverse to drive and also noticed that it happens when I'm parked somewhere high and descending to a normal leveled surface, I asked a friend, he said is normal or might be the engine seating, it didn't really bother me until a few days ago when I was reversing from my place to go out, the gearbox made this loud sound and the d started blinking, I then noticed that the gear won't select to a high gear anymore, I managed to drive slowly to the mechanic and on getting there, the mechanic enters to drive the car to access the issue but to my surprise, the blinking and everything stopped, it didn't even make the loud noise anymore when shifted to reverse, the guy just told me to bring the car for servicing next week. I pray and hope this won't cost me a fortune to fix.
Re: Problem: My Reverse Gear Gives A Scary Jerk With A Sound. by McStaves: 1:27pm On Nov 20, 2023
Please Lexius how did you later solve this issue??
Re: Problem: My Reverse Gear Gives A Scary Jerk With A Sound. by Montaque(m): 9:32am On Dec 21, 2023
I had this issue on my Corolla 2007. Also, when i engage any gear from park position, it will make the sound - "gbi". The mechanic said its the shaft cups. That i need to change the bearings on both driver and passengers' side. I plan to do the work when i get money.
Re: Problem: My Reverse Gear Gives A Scary Jerk With A Sound. by Dozieson(m): 11:43am On Dec 21, 2023
Montaque:
I had this issue on my Corolla 2007. Also, when i engage any gear from park position, it will make the sound - "gbi". The mechanic said its the shaft cups. That i need to change the bearings on both driver and passengers' side. I plan to do the work when i get money.

lols. is your car vibrating when moving ?
if you want to change your shaft be smart else they will contaminate your gear. try check the cost of your car before embarking on this journey
Re: Problem: My Reverse Gear Gives A Scary Jerk With A Sound. by Montaque(m): 3:42pm On Dec 21, 2023
Dozieson:


lols. is your car vibrating when moving ?
if you want to change your shaft be smart else they will contaminate your gear. try check the cost of your car before embarking on this journey

When i accelerate initially, the car vibrates. When i am on speed, the vibration is almost absent. Your comment now is making me to doubt whether I should do the repairs now or postpone it. I dont want anything that will be an issue at this xmas period
Re: Problem: My Reverse Gear Gives A Scary Jerk With A Sound. by Dozieson(m): 4:50pm On Dec 21, 2023
Montaque:


When i accelerate initially, the car vibrates. When i am on speed, the vibration is almost absent. Your comment now is making me to doubt whether I should do the repairs now or postpone it. I dont want anything that will be an issue at this xmas period

Don't rush. Take your time to study the issue properly.

It maybe the shaft as earlier said but replace with original brand new or very good toks that is clean especially the part entering the gear so it won't contaminate and destroy it

Some uses fuel to wash that part to be free from dirt before inserting into the gear

Top of the gear oil to gauge after replacing the shaft

Again it may just be the bearings inside the cup that is bad. This one is an easy fix. You don't need to remove the shaft from the gear in this case
Re: Problem: My Reverse Gear Gives A Scary Jerk With A Sound. by Montaque(m): 7:15pm On Dec 25, 2023
Dozieson:


Don't rush. Take your time to study the issue properly.

It maybe the shaft as earlier said but replace with original brand new or very good toks that is clean especially the part entering the gear so it won't contaminate and destroy it

Some uses fuel to wash that part to be free from dirt before inserting into the gear

Top of the gear oil to gauge after replacing the shaft

Again it may just be the bearings inside the cup that is bad. This one is an easy fix. You don't need to remove the shaft from the gear in this case

Just seen your comment. I don't know what to say but lets just thank God. I visited the mechanic on 22nd December. He changed the cup and the driver side bearing at the same time. He changed them with tokunbo ones. I noticed that he came with two sets of bearing, tested both and selected one of it as fitting for the cup. Then installed them. After that, the car drove well. On 23rd, I left for Onitsha. On the way after Ore, the vibration started again, and this time it was very noticable. I drove it on low speed till I reached onitsha. Still in the east. I have called the mechanic to complain. He has nothing helpful. I will look for another mechanic here And see what can be done. It's even worse than it was before the repairs. Only thing is that it doesn't sound "gbi" when you change gear. That happens smoothly. Just that if your accelerate, the car vibrates like if the propeller is irregular (not circular).

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