maclatunji:
It is a straightforward question. Militants and their supporters will celebrate destroying government infrastructure in the NigerDelta I imagine. However, away from the mindless jubilation, how do pipeline bombing, attacking and kidnapping oil workers bring about growth and development in the region?

One would think the region would be the most developed by now if it were an effective strategy going by the number of attacks that have occurred in the region since 1999.

Feel free to explain if you have answers to the questions. Don't come here to boast about blowing up things, I have already identified that as mindless, what I want to know is how it is an effective development strategy.

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Emycord:
How does it underdevelope nigeria. Someone is aggrieved instead of you to hear from him you suppress him cos he is minority. Then he responds with the only means that you understand: violence. If its affecting only nd will nigeria react? The truth is they are crippling nigeria economy not only nd. Now lets assume lagos port feeds the whole nation will yoruba not act same way ? Before you criticise nd think if its you what will you do

My brother that's the problem with this country. People will be complaining and protesting for all the injustices, deprivations, marginalizations and reckless abandonment matted on them, instead of government to call them and listen to them, government will choose the option of intimidation to suppress them. Now, when that stupid act of government will force them into violent act of destroying government property, everybody will start talking. Nobody likes violence, Niger Delters are not violent people, they only asking for Justice to be done. Igbo's that are agitating for secession love Nigeria more than some people who claim to love Nigeria. If only government both past and present had done what they suppose to do, all these agitations would have been buried. Call the agitators, know why they are agitating, or why they want to secede, attend to some of their demands, let there be equity, and equal representation also let there be fairness in sharing resources between government and the oil rich region of Nd. I'm by no means supporting bombing of oil facilities but, I think instead of us to keep on condemning the act, we should better put pressure on the government to do the right thing and save this Nation.

TonyeBarcanista:

,1. Niger Delta never dug any well but the land of some Niger Delta families was dug. The waters they fished on for their survival was polluted due to exploration activities. This has killed their predominant profession of Fishing.

2. By "law" or by the decree of one man? Who and who made the "law"? who made the Land Use. Decree? was ND Representatives involved or a certain General? Who made the Constitution? Were the people involved? If it was legal for mineral resources owners to keep 50% of their. rwenue before the. crude oil era, why make it illegal after the oil era?

3. The Niger Delta DOES NOT benefit from the peanut 13%, the elite does. Beside, we told Obj that we don't want 13% given to Governors but instead to the oil producing communities. Even the NDDC is not effective. We don't need any padipadi commission or ministry. 50% derivative, a considerable share to producing communities while we take care of spillage and degradation.

4. While I'm against carnage, I'm also against oppression.

Abeg, are u and op talking about water or oil?

TonyeBarcanista:

My Brother, people do take extreme measure to protest against injustice and oppression. Some do via hunger strike, setting self ablaze or destroying valuables. The Arab spring was sparked by someone setting self ablaze and that drew attention. Some have gone hunger strike and some have taken to carnage. Yes, they are extreme but it is about attention.

However, I belong to Isaac Boro school of thought with respect to ND agitation. It should never be taken advantage of by a few criminal businessmen nor those in search of compensation in the name of pipeline contracts and Amnesty. Hence, I long withdrew my support for carnage.

Nna, u see beyond the hate. If everyone in ND is like u. Maybe it will be a different story by now
All these bombers, do it for themselves, where are those who start it before? They are all billionaire now. And who them epp? No one

Are you in this country? How many times has this issue of resource control been tabled before the house. Have you forgotten we need majority in the house for an issue to be finally decided? Our senators alone can't do it because a section or a group of people who has The majority in the house would not allow such to come into being. Is it not in this country a Northern elder said that the oil in the Niger delta belongs to the north? Is it not in this country some people are agitating a reduction in the 13% given to the Niger delta states. Is it not in the house they want to change d PIB and leave the host communities with Nothing in order to favour the multinationals

maclatunji:
It is a straightforward question. Militants and their supporters will celebrate destroying government infrastructure in the NigerDelta I imagine. However, away from the mindless jubilation, how do pipeline bombing, attacking and kidnapping oil workers bring about growth and development in the region?

One would think the region would be the most developed by now if it were an effective strategy going by the number of attacks that have occurred in the region since 1999.

Feel free to explain if you have answers to the questions. Don't come here to boast about blowing up things, I have already identified that as mindless, what I want to know is how it is an effective development strategy.

truth be told it doesnt work well as a development strategy bt looking back at the yrs of neglect in the hinter regions of the niger delta and nt areas like warri and ph, its a case 9f being backed up against the wall! I keep asking questions why do FG fight the host communities of IOCs to ensure steady flow of cash to the central govt? why do IOCs move their hq to lag? dont tell me security issues cos dat is a big fat lie! they created this consuming fire bt run away from it! dont u think that these communities deserve a quota, be it in form of dvelopmental projects or employment? I ve seen the suffering of these people and I ve worked with them. There are millions of other tribes working in plum jobs in shell, total and chevron in ph nd warri! so much that its commonplace to hear yoruba in the hallway! am nt saying its bad bt r u now saying that the people of the SS dont go to school? also venture into nnpc in abj, in tower a from the 6th flow na only hausa u go dey hear there! if the hq is in the state giving them 80% of their resource, employing these people give them a stake in these organisations..the mass layoff in the oil sector no touch them much as most SS work midlevel and low level cadre jobs!
Going by my initial asesment, blowing stuff up iant the answer bt when the entire country feels the pinch they have felt since, then u can sit in the comfort of ur home wih internet probably provided for by the exploration that has damaged livelihoods and make ur analogy!

Earth2Metahuman:
Nigeria own's the oil while naija delta owns the land..

Just like Nigeria own's waters while lagos owns the land.

Every natural resources belong to federal government ...

Read before you comment.

So when oil(owned by Nigeria) spillage occurs , only the ND suffers it?

Nawa o

falxx:
Why would any reasonable person answer this most foolish questions. If this evening, I decides to damage all my doors, windows, whose business is that?

Your neighbors for one. Your actions would lower the property value of the surrounding area. The homeowner's association in some locales can actually evict an owner that is ruining the environment. In the case of the ND they are not helping themselves. I'm completely against the injustice that they have suffered at the hands of the IOC and previous gov'ts but this present rampage is uncalled for after the relative peace of the past 6 years. There are plans in place to improve the region but they have cut their nose to spite their face. We are all suffering as a result. I want resource control. I want federalism. I want development but blowing up assets will do nothing to further the cause. Who in their right mind will invest where people behave like this and are applauded?

maclatunji:
It is a straightforward question. Militants and their supporters will celebrate destroying government infrastructure in the NigerDelta I imagine. However, away from the mindless jubilation, how do pipeline bombing, attacking and kidnapping oil workers bring about growth and development in the region?

One would think the region would be the most developed by now if it were an effective strategy going by the number of attacks that have occurred in the region since 1999.

Feel free to explain if you have answers to the questions. Don't come here to boast about blowing up things, I have already identified that as mindless, what I want to know is how it is an effective development strategy.

my brother it looks like your opinion about the Niger delta is prejudiced, open up your heart sincerely and weigh both sides of the coin the answer to your question is this
To get results you must go through tests and trials and you never can tell which route will open up for you. My brother America fought for their independence, the world fought Germany for 3years to stop world war 2. These people tried peace and it failed so war was the next route. My brother even the Arab spring that brought the result we see today didn't happen over night, just to remind you Syria Yemen and Iraq are yet to overcome but you and I know they will overcome someday. The agitation for change in the Arab world didn't start when the protests started it has been there long before the protest, negotiations, pleas appeals and advise both from those countries citizens and international bodies have been there. My brother the peaceful protest was another stage in their struggle just as the violent protest was the next stage. To cut the long story short bombing of pipelines started when olusegun obsanjo came into power that is 16years from now, the last 40years was the peaceful stage in the cry for the destruction of the Niger delta communities. We are now in the second stage which is bombing of pipelines and oil infrastructure and its been just 16years compared to the 40years of peaceful negotiations. The third stage is coming and maybe its going to be more violent than this stage but the end one day the Niger delta will achieve their aim. So the bombing is working for them, and in some years you will see their goal is achieved. so don't think its not working for them it will in the long terms bring greater development when their goal is achieved. Like the Arab spring most countries are not yet stable but you would see in time to come their development would take you by surprise.

Earth2Metahuman:
Nigeria own's the oil while naija delta owns the land..

Just like Nigeria own's waters while lagos owns the land.

Every natural resources belong to federal government ...

Read before you comment.

oga why are states allowed to control their solid minerals whereas crude oil is different? Are those solid minerals not equally Natural resources? Is bitumen not a Natural resource

Under this arrangement .... The Niger Delta must strike another method of getting to the government of Nigeria..not carnage

Integrity123:
Who has destruction help?

Yet they want the government to provide the moon. Where will the government get the funds to satisfy the demand when the source of income is damaged? Now, the slogan has changed, PMB, don't borrow

since 1960 - 2000, thats 40years oh before blowing up of pipelines started why didn't the funds and source of income generated by those governments why were they not used to develop the Niger delta. They never start dey blow pipelines then oh and we had men like ken sarowiwa and Isaac boro crying out. Guy if person lie to you 5times on a particular issue you go believe am again? Abi we tie all those governments hands? then instead them come they kill the people who were crying out.

maclatunji:


You can try, maybe when you bombed XYZ pipeline, you got ABC road built or when you bombed 123 pipeline, 789 industrial complex was built. I can understand if you answer honestly.

its a long struggle so they are not expecting the development to come just like that. In time to come when their struggle is won you will see development that will blow your mind

Zejie:
oga why are states allowed to control their solid minerals whereas crude oil is different? Are those solid minerals not equally Natural resources? Is bitumen not a Natural resource

which state is controlling it''s natural resources in Nigeria?

emymeeky:


So when oil(owned by Nigeria) spillage occurs , only the ND suffers it?

Nawa o

when floods or over population occurrs in lago's, no be only lagos dey suffer am?

maclatunji:
It is a straightforward question. Militants and their supporters will celebrate destroying government infrastructure in the NigerDelta I imagine. However, away from the mindless jubilation, how do pipeline bombing, attacking and kidnapping oil workers bring about growth and development in the region?

One would think the region would be the most developed by now if it were an effective strategy going by the number of attacks that have occurred in the region since 1999.

Feel free to explain if you have answers to the questions. Don't come here to boast about blowing up things, I have already identified that as mindless, what I want to know is how it is an effective development strategy.

The answer is very obvious. Violence/terrorism has never worked and it will never work. The Niger Delta region has suffered neglect since the discovery of oil, but it has suffered more in the last 16 years. Even if they have to bomb in other to be heard I still think they are bombing the wrong places. One example: We are 20 in a club and each of us contributed N100,000 which is given to the leader of the club. Then the day of account reaches and the leader cannot account for the money. Naturally everyone of us should hold/lynch the leader to get our money back. NO, at least not in Nigeria! Instead they will defend the leader because he is of their tribe... Nigerians tend to put politics before prosperity. Niger Deltans should ask introspective questions.

(1) Why is it that virtually all the past governors in jail (or went to jail) for stealing public funds are from our region?
(2) Why is that our own brothers who claim to represent us do not invest in our region?
(3) Why is our region not attracting other investments different from oil?
(4) Is the federal government really the enemy or is the enemy within us? etc. etc.

MEND has been consistent since changing tactic. (they were formerly involved in violence struggle against the state) Right now the only way to get 50% derivation is through the National Assembly not through pipeline bombing. The earnings of the federal government is hurt no doubt but I think the Niger Delta earnings is hurt more. The federal government is managing because it can earn from other sources apart from oil. (custom duties, taxes, VAT etc.) Bombing of pipelines contributes to the Niger Delta's many problems instead of solving them.

it doesn't help the country, big boys (corrupt looters) use hungry underlings to do there dirty work to maintain the class status quo and keep the pple suffering.






hard to believe that Nollywood covered the topic so thoroughly in this classic production years ago!


nollywood 'liquid black gold' part 1 <--- movie is still up on youtube channel

it also shone the light on foreign oyinbos and their devious influence in the region.

Earth2Metahuman:
when floods or over population occurred in lago's, no be only laid dey suffer am?

If the flooding/overpopulation has a direct impact on the nation's economy, the whole Nigeria will suffer it

LoveMachine:


Your neighbors for one. Your actions would lower the property value of the surrounding area. The homeowner's association in some locales can actually evict an owner that is ruining the environment. In the case of the ND they are not helping themselves. I'm completely against the injustice that they have suffered at the hands of the IOC and previous gov'ts but this present rampage is uncalled for after the relative peace of the past 6 years. There are plans in place to improve the region but they have cut their nose to spite their face. We are all suffering as a result. I want resource control. I want federalism. I want development but blowing up assets will do nothing to further the cause. Who in their right mind will invest where people behave like this and are applauded?

Does the body language of Buhari show that there are plans to develop and improve the region? Abacha wife have been inducted for corruption and many others yet she is there moving very free. Even the wife of Buhari is unvolved in corruption cases which are more serious than GEJ's wife. Amaechi has as many cases of corruption against him with enough type written evidences and reminders sent to efcc yet all these people are free out there. So are we talking?

emymeeky:


If the flooding/overpopulation has a direct impact on the nation's economy, the whole Nigeria will suffer it

what happen's to the economy if seaports no longer works?

ImoRiver:


If you are not lying can I know your community? Some youths in Niger Delta don't like humble jobs. Etche, Ogoni and if we include Akwa Ibom, Edo and Crossriver as Niger Delta are some of the block exceptions. My company employs for 100k start up as a servicing company but none of the host community employees has ever lasted more than 6 months because there is a belief that 100k is too small for a graduate from the community. Igbos, Ogonis and Akwaibomites even apply for manual jobs of 50k and yet look much happier and fulfilled.

One thing I've noticed is that some politicians are involved in brainwashing the youths into believing that oil being in their soil means they should be rich without hard work but their own children are working despite being sure of inheriting billions. Niger Delta areas in Rivers, Bayelsa and Delta need total reorientation to change this wrong psych. All of Nigeria suffers from bad leadership but others are more self reliant.

Una don come again. With a nameless host community, company and ridiculous claim. I'm from Ugborodo, where boys dey fight for 50k EGTL work wen dem go still give community chairman 5k or so on top.
Please what's the community that their youths are rejecting 100k a month job in the region.

Earth2Metahuman:
what happen's to the economy if seaports no longer works?

Same thing that happens when pipelines are blown

Etern:


The answer is very obvious. Violence/terrorism has never worked and it will never work. The Niger Delta region has suffered neglect since the discovery of oil, but it has suffered more in the last 16 years. Even if they have to bomb in other to be heard I still think they are bombing the wrong places. One example: We are 20 in a club and each of us contributed N100,000 which is given to the leader of the club. Then the day of account reaches and the leader cannot account for the money. Naturally everyone of us should hold/lynch the leader to get our money back. NO, at least not in Nigeria! Instead they will defend the leader because he is of their tribe... Nigerians tend to put politics before prosperity. Niger Deltans should ask introspective questions.

(1) Why is it that virtually all the past governors in jail (or went to jail) for stealing public funds are from our region?
(2) Why is that our own brothers who claim to represent us do not invest in our region?
(3) Why is our region not attracting other investments different from oil?
(4) Is the federal government really the enemy or is the enemy within us? etc. etc.

MEND has been consistent since changing tactic. (they were formerly involved in violence struggle against the state) Right now the only way to get 50% derivation is through the National Assembly not through pipeline bombing. The earnings of the federal government is hurt no doubt but I think the Niger Delta earnings is hurt more. The federal government is managing because it can earn from other sources apart from oil. (custom duties, taxes, VAT etc.) Bombing of pipelines contributes to the Niger Delta's many problems instead of solving them.

Thank you for the insightful piece.

Ok!! Come to think of it this way: how does "not destroying" develope the region??

gidgiddy:


Lets say you have a water well in your own compound. Out of the goodness of your heart, you allow all your neigbours to benefit from your well by connecting pipes to their homes and beyond. Overtime, you find out the consumotion of your own water by others has become so high that there is no longer enough for you and your family. You go to your neigbours and complain that you want to now control how this water is distributed and shared so as to have enough for your self, but your neigbours ignore you, some even insult you.

How long will it be before you disconnect your neigbours to remind them owns the well?

Point of correction. The well is not yours. It belongs to the FG and royalty is paid to you for you troubles. The question is: What did u do with the royalty paid to you?

Inova:

Point of correction. The well is not yours. It belongs to the FG and royalty is paid to you for you troubles. The question is: What did u do with the royalty paid to you?

Wrong! When there was no Nigeria, who did the land and whatever in it belong to? It belonged to the indigenous people of the land. Just because some British profiteers came to west Africa to create an illegal and enforced union of unconsenting people called Nigeria, you turn around and say that the people have lost ownership of their land? That is absolutely laughable. As I said in a previous post, 'one Nigeria' is slogan that has been used to steal the natural resouces of the people in the Niger Delta for several decades.

gidgiddy:


Wrong! When there was no Nigeria, who did the land and whatever in it belong to? It belonged to the indigenous people of the land. Just because some British profiteers came to west Africa to create an illegal and enforced union of unconsenting people called Nigeria, you turn around and say that the people have lost ownership of their land? That is absolutely laughable. As I said in a previous post, 'one Nigeria' is slogan that has been used to steal the natural resouces of the people in the Niger Delta for several decades.

But now this is Nigeria! You can only tell tales of history but here we are in reality, Nigeria!
And as I said earlier, You guys have been fooled by wicked criminal and greedy elements in your (Niger-Delta) region. They have access to whatever accrues to the region but makes sure nothing gets to the common masses there knowing quite well that Nigerians including Niger Deltans will always support 'their own' kit and kin on the altar of tribalism and religious sentiments thereby pushing the blame to others. The moment you change your perception and reason differently about this you will see the need to begin your revolution with your own immediate leaders and every other thing will begin to fall in line.

emymeeky:


Same thing that happens when pipelines are blown

so do you understand now?

oldninja:



But now this is Nigeria! You can only tell tales of history but here we are in reality, Nigeria!
And as I said earlier, You guys have been fooled by wicked criminal and greedy elements in your (Niger-Delta) region. They have access to whatever accrues to the region but makes sure nothing gets to the common masses there knowing quite well that Nigerians including Niger Deltans will always support 'their own' kit and kin on the altar of tribalism and religious sentiments thereby pushing the blame to others. The moment you change your perception and reason differently about this you will see the need to begin your revolution with your own immediate leaders and every other thing will begin to fall in line.

Yes this is Nigeria but the reality of Nigeria is a fraudulent one because it has illegally taken control of peoples lands without their permission. No level headed person accepts fraud, least of all people in the Niger Delta. Nigeria has illegally stolen their Oil wealth for decades and this theft has to stop. That is why they are blowing up the pipelines and destroying Oil installations.

Even the international community hardly ever criticises the Niger Delta militants because they all know that Nigeria is committing daylight robbery there.

This is the real picture. Agriculture sustained this country before crude oil was discovered. After the discovery, the northerners abandoned agriculture to chase after oil money. Oloibiri did not experience pipeline vandalization and bombings like other areas but look at how it looks today because of neglect on the part of the FG. People tend to forget the fact that oil spills/gas flaring on the part of the oil companies degrade the environment. They only shift their focus to the bombing aspect.

gidgiddy:


Whoever owns the land controls whatever is found on it.

Based on the Constitution fabricated in your toilet abi?