Weah96:


Your version of God is anthropomorphic. Its an archaic interpretation from the bronze age, but if it rocks your boat, go with it.
I prefer to use Nature.

Since when did you become a pantheist . Have you finally left that illogical piece of crap called atheism

shadeyinka:


Some bacteria shaking their fingers at you because you want to kill hundreds of millions of them with disinfectant in your toilet.

I can see you will be afraid of them. Wicked man! Why would you destroy the lives of bacteria who didn't offend you.

They way some people reason! SMH

It's called "Survival", Bacteria can kill me.
On the other hand, your "God" is supposed to be an all-loving and perfect being, what does he gain from torturing me eternally, apart from satisfying his sadistic desires.

4kings:

It's called "Survival", Bacteria can kill me.
On the other hand, your "God" is supposed to be an all-loving and perfect being, what does he gain from torturing me eternally, apart from satisfying his sadistic desires.

Check this out . I discovered that some deists believe in an immanent God who can interact but not necessarily intervene . And that some deists - Classical deists - believe in punishments during and after life . And there are deists who believe in a transpersonal relationship with God .

KingEbukaNaija:


The use of pronouns like "He" and "She" is to identify sexes/gender . God is genderless so "IT" - not used pejoratively - is suitable to address an Impersonal God . Only believers of a personal God can use "He" to address God since he kind of has masculine roles .

Do you know that most deists actually believe that the Supreme Being should be worshiped ?

There are so many types of deism - Pandeism, panendeism , Polydeism , Scientific Deism , and Spiritual Deism . And these aforementioned types of deism accept God as a Personal God except Pandeism

Pandeism - God no longer exists as a separate conscious entity and now exists as the universe . God metamorphosed from a sentient conscious being to an unresponsive entity , the universe .

Panendeism - It conflates ideas of panentheism and deism .

Polydeism - many supernatural beings created the universe but are not involved in the affairs of the universe

There is one called Process Deism . Others include Christian Deism , Humanistic Deism and Classical Deism . So my brother be actually certain about what you are actually walking into , it is not by shouting deism upandan . Good luck !

mynd44 Check this out bro

KingEbukaNaija:


Children are not held accountable by God for their sins until they reach a certain age . Well most acceptable age for accountability is 13 . So children will not go to Hell . God is a wise and just being , so he can determine if you are actually aware of the wrongs the committed or the gravity of their offence .

There is no bible verse that really addressed this though .

Non Christians who did not get to know God will be judged according to their works . Jesus never said that those who do not believe in him will go to hell .

Romans 2:6-11
6 who will render to every man according to his deeds: 7 to them who by patient continuance in well doing seek for glory and honour and immortality, eternal life: 8 but unto them that are contentious, and do not obey the truth, but obey unrighteousness, indignation and wrath, 9 tribulation and anguish, upon every soul of man that doeth evil, of the Jew first, and also of the Gentile; 10 but glory, honour, and peace, to every man that worketh good, to the Jew first, and also to the Gentile: 11 for there is no respect of persons with God.

It does not say if you don't believe in me , hellfire for you .


Matthew 7:21
"Not everyone who says to me, 'Lord, Lord,' will enter the kingdom of heaven, but the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven."

Another verse that clearly says "but the one who does the will of my Father" . You will be judged according to your works and if you never knew Christ your judgement will ascertain if you are indeed in line or an errant .

John 3:19-21
And this is the judgment: the light has come into the world, and people loved the darkness rather than the light because their works were evil. For everyone who does wicked things hates the light and does not come to the light, lest his works should be exposed. But whoever does what is true comes to the light, so that it may be clearly seen that his works have been carried out in God.

People from other religions can go to heaven if they never got to know Christ but only God's judgement determines if that its so . Their lives would undergo so much scrutiny

This is a good one. so what ur still saying is exactly the truth we have been trying to say all these while. Because you are not a Christian does not automatically guarantee you a ticket to hell, rather you shall be judged according to your works, just like Christians are also going to be judged according to their works, which means that regardless of ur religion you will still be judged after death, which brings us to an ultimate truth which is that religion doesn't tea matter, rather it is how you live your life here on earth that does. Thank You, Very Much!!

4kings:

It's called "Survival", Bacteria can kill me.
On the other hand, your "God" is supposed to be an all-loving and perfect being, what does he gain from torturing me eternally, apart from satisfying his sadistic desires.

I hope you know that more than 95% of bacteria are harmless to man. Your disinfectant doesn't discriminate between good bacteria and bad bacteria. FYI, Without bacteria, no Yoghurt!

You have murdered millions of innocent bacteria.

shadeyinka:


I hope you know that more than 95% of bacteria are harmless to man. Your disinfectant doesn't discriminate between good bacteria and bad bacteria. FYI, Without bacteria, no Yoghurt!

You have murdered millions of innocent bacteria.

What's your point?

KingEbukaNaija:


Check this out . I discovered that some deists believe in an immanent God who can interact but not necessarily intervene . And that some deists - Classical deists - believe in punishments during and after life . And there are deists who believe in a transpersonal relationship with God .

You know i subscribe to Gnosticism, Chi-energy, kundalini and other similar weird stuff
I am of the opinion that there are energies or abilities that can be reached(that is beyond what is normal), but i don't regard them as "supernatural or spiritual in the mainstream sense", but rather an aspect that eludes understanding.

So this "interaction" you talk about, is not from outer-space or another realm, but just part of nature that we don't have full understanding of.
#quantum meta-physics

What do u mean by transpersonal relationship?

4kings:

You know i subscribe to Gnosticism, Chi-energy, kundalini and other similar weird stuff
I am of the opinion that there are energies or abilities that can be reached(that is beyond what is normal), but i don't regard them as "supernatural or spiritual in the mainstream sense", but rather an aspect that eludes understanding.

So this "interaction" you talk about, is not from outer-space or another realm, but just part of nature that we don't have full understanding of.
#quantum meta-physics

What do u mean by transpersonal relationship?

Me sef I am not understanding

But since you believe in chakras and all that stuff then you should understand it

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transpersonal_chakras

KingEbukaNaija:


Me sef I am not understanding

But since you believe in chakras and all that stuff then you should understand it

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transpersonal_chakras

I dont understand it
don't know much about chakras, sixth sense, third eye, and so on

4kings:

I dont understand it
don't know much about chakras, sixth sense, third eye, and so on

So then which type of deist are you ?

Hello,
Can someone explain Acts 2: 4- 12?
There is something about that scripture that raises a VERY Serious question.
Thanks.

KingEbukaNaija:


So then which type of deist are you ?

I'm a free thinker, remember
I just accept the deistic view of "God".

4kings:

I'm a free thinker, remember
I just accept the deistic view of "God".

Which deistic view of God from the aforementioned ?

KingEbukaNaija:


Which deistic view of God from the aforementioned ?

classical deist

4kings:

classical deist

You believe God metes out punishment to the unjust here and in after life ?

KingEbukaNaija:


You believe God metes out punishment to the unjust here and in after life ?

Oops, didn't know that, i'm just a deist with different opinions which u know already.

4kings:

Oops, didn't know that, i'm just a deist with different opinions which u know already.

You remember what deepsight said about men who were sent by God to mankind to teach them His ways ? And he included Jesus . What do you think ?

lennycool

KingEbukaNaija:
lennycool

What?

KingEbukaNaija:


You remember what deepsight said about men who were sent by God to mankind to teach them His ways ? And he included Jesus . What do you think ?

First of all that goes in contrast to the definition of deism.

A christian deist just accept most of Christ teachings and not as a deity. If he says that God sent Jesus then why does he deny Jesus supremacy, after-all Jesus spoke of himself as being a god sent by God, or maybe he has a knowledge that Jesus himself(if he existed) didn't have.

4kings:

First of all that goes in contrast to the definition of deism.

Modern deism I guess

A christian deist just accept most of Christ teachings and not as a deity. If he says that God sent Jesus then why does he deny Jesus supremacy, after-all Jesus spoke of himself as being a god sent by God, or maybe he has a knowledge that Jesus himself(if he existed) didn't have.

He believes the God sends special men to humans to guide them from darkness to the path of Light .

@ dalaman

What about deism ? What do you think ?

KingEbukaNaija:
@ dalaman

What about deism ? What do you think ?

I think it is the most honest position in my opinion. Deism isn't well formulated else I would have been one myself.

dalaman:


I think it is the most honest position in my opinion. Deism isn't well formulated else I would have been one myself.

What makes it ill formulated ?

KingEbukaNaija:


What makes it ill formulated ?

It doesn't answer any questions with regards to creation and human life in general.

dalaman:


It doesn't answer any questions with regards to creation and human life in general.

There are so many types of deism . So which one ?

KingEbukaNaija:


The use of pronouns like "He" and "She" is to identify sexes/gender . God is genderless so "IT" - not used pejoratively - is suitable to address an Impersonal God . Only believers of a personal God can use "He" to address God since he kind of has masculine roles .

Do you know that most deists actually believe that the Supreme Being should be worshiped ?

There are so many types of deism - Pandeism, panendeism , Polydeism , Scientific Deism , and Spiritual Deism . And these aforementioned types of deism accept God as a Personal God except Pandeism

Pandeism - God no longer exists as a separate conscious entity and now exists as the universe . God metamorphosed from a sentient conscious being to an unresponsive entity , the universe .

Panendeism - It conflates ideas of panentheism and deism .

Polydeism - many supernatural beings created the universe but are not involved in the affairs of the universe

There is one called Process Deism . Others include Christian Deism , Humanistic Deism and Classical Deism . So my brother be actually certain about what you are actually walking into , it is not by shouting deism upandan . Good luck !

KingEbukaNaija:


Modern deism I guess

Na wa 4 all this classifications ooo

He believes the God sends special men to humans to guide them from darkness to the path of Light .

Do these special men know that there are being sent?

dalaman:


It doesn't answer any questions with regards to creation and human life in general.

Those questions are yet to be answered by any reasonable philosophical denomination.

4kings:

First of all that goes in contrast to the definition of deism.

A christian deist just accept most of Christ teachings and not as a deity. If he says that God sent Jesus then why does he deny Jesus supremacy, after-all Jesus spoke of himself as being a god sent by God, or maybe he has a knowledge that Jesus himself(if he existed) didn't have.

God sends everybody.

Every living being is an emanation of the Godhead.

And every being has purpose.

It is the purpose of some beings to help other beings understand spiritual truth.

There is nothing I have said that suggests any "supremacy" for Jesus. I don't believe in that at all.

DeepSight:


God sends everybody.

Every living being is an emanation of the Godhead.

And every being has purpose.

It is the purpose of some beings to help other beings understand spiritual truth.

There is nothing I have said that suggests any "supremacy" for Jesus. I don't believe in that at all.

How do you know of this "Purpose" and how does one know his purpose?