cloudgoddess:
Great post. And I'm happy for you for getting the help you needed

I love your icecream challenge at the end. It's very true. The brain is a pattern-seeking machine, in psychology it's called "top down processing", looking at your surroundings & experiences through the lense of whatever is already in your mind. We all do it. What you feed your senses, your brain will automatically seek out more of.

Since superstition is feeding the minds of many Nigerians still, it's no wonder that witch accusations and "encounters" are still happening :/ Thankfully enlightened individuals like yourself are breaking out of that mind trap, seeing the situation for what it is, and turning to appropriate psychiatric assistance rather than harmful superstitious answers.

Acidosis:
When you provide a video evidence of a man dreaming, I will show you a video evidence of a flying witch.

foladara777:

There was a time majority believed the world was flat and also a time when slavery was okay... Plss, respond

felixomor:


U have not yet corrected your fallacy, you are already committing another one.

Changing "power line" to "electric pole".

Abeg just go.

bemind:
The drugs that you take for pains, malaria, HIV and Flu were created through the medical and science community. These innovations emanate from years of study of the human body and a series of drug trials to test the efficacy of these medicines.

Gandhi the world renowned Buddhist is a man we all adore and respect. He refused his wife from medicating when she was ill, instead he implored her to have faith in miraculous healing, in the end she succumbed to her illness. Fast forward to a few years, Gandhi, gets ill and do you know what followed? He took medicines to cure himself, the story of miraculous healings was thrown to the bin. This is the story of the human race when push comes to shove and the power of healing medication brings.

The whole concept of Witchery* is well known in Psychiatry and official diagnoses vary between a range of mental illnesses. Come to the Federal Psychiatric Hospital in Yaba and see numerous witches in action. I was one of them. Before I got treatment.

You see there is something called psychosis or delusions of reference, which is what happens to the best of us when we have so called supernatural experiences. I’ve been there. It all starts and ends with the mind and all stems from a place of intense fear that causes the brain’s neurotransmitters to misfire. You see, the reason why the story of witches and what not continue to be passed on from generation to generation is that it is realer than real to the patient, I.e the Witch. All what I saw when I was experiencing delusions where real TO ME…but me alone. I had convinced my mind to believe these things. Fear and belief in Witches = delusions. In the western world witches and demons are replaced with aliens. Patients are convinced aliens are after them.

Look the mind is powerful, I mean extremely powerful, with intense focus, fear and intent, you can create. We are all creators of our reality. This is why atheists can never see or experience witch craft. What happens in these states is that you have succeeded in convincing your brain and mind about the existence of certain entities.

Fear + insomnia = Delusions/psychosis aka Witch Craft
Stress + insomnia + hunger= Delusions/psychosis aka Witch Craft
Intense Religious beliefs = Acute delirium/Delusions/psychosis aka Witch craft

But thank God for our doctors and scientist they have studied the human brain and understand to a large extent how it works. I was medicated for a few months combined with talk therapy and basically became anew. Mehn I thank the heavens for my family that got me the needed care.

Many people seeking deliverance need to visit the Psychiatric hospital, its cheap and the doctors there have seen it all, they would care for you and treat your symptoms, but you have to be willing.

Please if you have any friends or relatives seeking deliverance from demons or witches with unexplained or “supernatural” causes, please see a psychiatrist.

A little test you can attempt. Spend the next 24 hours thinking about a particular subject, focus with all your might, it can be something as flimsy as ice cream. Read up on it, immerse yourself in all things ice-cream, sing ice cream songs, do you know what happens? When you turn on the TV, you start to notice all the ice-creams, you start seeing ice-creams everywhere, suddenly all the magazines and newspapers are covering news about ice creams, this is what happens in reality when the mind is affixed on a given subject. Its beyond fascinating, you can give it a go. It is not any different with the concept of Witchery.

ever811:
can't see your question... so what am I responding to..

foladara777:

Which fallacy, better check usernames before replying... And climbing power line is proof of witchcraft... There is no other possibility?!

foladara777:

You claimed most people including white believed in the existence of God... Am saying that is no proof of the existence of God

podosci:


The ignorant europeans( white in layman terms) gave us religious falacies and not education, they moved away from such nonsense along time ago when they attained the level of development that makes one who believes in wiches and wizards sound like an idiot. Offcourse there are still ignorant europeans whose low I.Q or Lack or Education can make him/her believe in such nonsense but a far majority of the population now understand that an illness is caused either by neaurological deficiency or a biological attack by microbs.
Fast forward to Africa and you would see the same behavior exhibited by Europeans at a time in the past when ignorance was the norm and eauropeans actually believed a solar eclipse was caused by an angry God. The high level of poverty and low level of litracy makes it possible for 99% of Nigerians to believe an accident is caused by witches and wizards ( who mostly recide in the rural villages) than a mechanical failure.
Bring video evidence of a rat turning into an old woman or an old woman turning into a rat and we can discuss from there. This is 2016 not 1801

felixomor:


Your first fallacy was that doctors were not believers in the supernatural and that the ones who did were so because they grew up with "morning devotion".

Secondly, if i may ask what evidence will prove witchcraft to you?
Mind you, I am not an advocate of witchery.

Acidosis:


You're right on the low level of literacy and the high level of ignorance in Nigeria but that doesn't discredit the fact that witchcraft is real.


Nigeria has technology today, yet a larger percentage use these stuffs to commit fraud. It doesn't mean technology is bad. The same manner at which some folks have decided to continuously scam the ignorant ones with fake emails, bank notification, etc. is the same manner at which some folks have decided to use religion as a veritable tool to deceive the gullible ones. Would you ban technology because people commit fraud?

So even when I see visions (you can check the difference between vision and dreams), you think I should be referred to a psychiatry ward just because some people don't believe in visions?

ever811:
can you prove to me that God does not exist.. pls respond

foladara777:

Funny how u didn't respond to that earlier rebuttal... The rebuttal was outlined to make it easy to counter sef... The statistics about the other scientists were ignored and the point about religious doctors responding more to that particular survey is ignored..
As to your second point... There is a reason why in science and law unless something is proven conclusively it is not accepted as fact... U can't use the argument of population to prove the existence of witchcraft, u need physical or circumstantial evidence. So far, none of u people have been able to provide any

KingEbukasBlog:


What makes you a logical fellow

foladara777:

Visions... How are they different from hallucinations

bemind:
The drugs that you take for pains, malaria, HIV and Flu were created through the medical and science community. These innovations emanate from years of study of the human body and a series of drug trials to test the efficacy of these medicines.

Gandhi the world renowned Buddhist is a man we all adore and respect. He refused his wife from medicating when she was ill, instead he implored her to have faith in miraculous healing, in the end she succumbed to her illness. Fast forward to a few years, Gandhi, gets ill and do you know what followed? He took medicines to cure himself, the story of miraculous healings was thrown to the bin. This is the story of the human race when push comes to shove and the power of healing medication brings.

The whole concept of Witchery* is well known in Psychiatry and official diagnoses vary between a range of mental illnesses. Come to the Federal Psychiatric Hospital in Yaba and see numerous witches in action. I was one of them. Before I got treatment.

You see there is something called psychosis or delusions of reference, which is what happens to the best of us when we have so called supernatural experiences. I’ve been there. It all starts and ends with the mind and all stems from a place of intense fear that causes the brain’s neurotransmitters to misfire. You see, the reason why the story of witches and what not continue to be passed on from generation to generation is that it is realer than real to the patient, I.e the Witch. All what I saw when I was experiencing delusions where real TO ME…but me alone. I had convinced my mind to believe these things. Fear and belief in Witches = delusions. In the western world witches and demons are replaced with aliens. Patients are convinced aliens are after them.

Look the mind is powerful, I mean extremely powerful, with intense focus, fear and intent, you can create. We are all creators of our reality. This is why atheists can never see or experience witch craft. What happens in these states is that you have succeeded in convincing your brain and mind about the existence of certain entities.

Fear + insomnia = Delusions/psychosis aka Witch Craft
Stress + insomnia + hunger= Delusions/psychosis aka Witch Craft
Intense Religious beliefs = Acute delirium/Delusions/psychosis aka Witch craft

But thank God for our doctors and scientist they have studied the human brain and understand to a large extent how it works. I was medicated for a few months combined with talk therapy and basically became anew. Mehn I thank the heavens for my family that got me the needed care.

Many people seeking deliverance need to visit the Psychiatric hospital, its cheap and the doctors there have seen it all, they would care for you and treat your symptoms, but you have to be willing.

Please if you have any friends or relatives seeking deliverance from demons or witches with unexplained or “supernatural” causes, please see a psychiatrist.

A little test you can attempt. Spend the next 24 hours thinking about a particular subject, focus with all your might, it can be something as flimsy as ice cream. Read up on it, immerse yourself in all things ice-cream, sing ice cream songs, do you know what happens? When you turn on the TV, you start to notice all the ice-creams, you start seeing ice-creams everywhere, suddenly all the magazines and newspapers are covering news about ice creams, this is what happens in reality when the mind is affixed on a given subject. Its beyond fascinating, you can give it a go. It is not any different with the concept of Witchery.

ever811:
can you prove to me that God does not exist.. pls respond

felixomor:
I have watched a witch climb an electric power line to the top and come back down in the ancient city of Benin without electrocution.

felixomor:


You still dont know the difference between "doctors" and "scientists".?
My initial post was on "medical doctors", was it not?

And u have not been able to describe any format or type of evidence that will satisfy your type.
Sorry

Acidosis:
When you provide a video evidence of a man dreaming, I will show you a video evidence of a flying witch.

Setaje:
The time for me to live nairaland and become a visitor is getting close. I see seun and his minions are trying so hard to remove the existence of God or anything spiritual and make the untrained mind to second guess certain phenomenon which science itself cannot reveal.

What keeps me going is, it is better to die believing in something and perhaps finding out that there is actually a spiritual dimension to life itself , than to die believing in nothing to then see that I have been a tool of the devil to distabilise humanity but by then it would have been to late. Dying an atheist and actually becoming aware after death is the worst thing that can happen to any soul.

In Death, things become clearer.

Seun:

Electrical technicians climb electric power lines all the time without electrocution. The key is to have the power switched off before climbing it.

Ksslib:

It seems you are forgetting that this analogy actually does more harm than good to your argument because I can come out say an evidence of me dreaming cannot be provided because dreams are not real, just like you also cannot provide evidence of flying witches because they are also not real. You trying to wager the reality of flying witches with the reality of dreams just goes to show how real flying witches indeed are. It's all in the head bro.
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foladara777:

Actually, it's not that straight forward... If u die as a theist and d Islamic God is d real one, your fate is the same as that of an atheist, all your labor would have been in vain... Same could be said for a thousand other circumstances in which your own version of God is not correct

foladara777:

Oh... So d high incidence of religious belief among doctors is proof of the existence of God and the extremely little percentage of theists among other scientists is completely irrelevant to the question of the existence of God?.. That's done serious double standard there
Plss give me any type of evidence u have... Physical, historical, circumstantial... Anything

paulibling:
Now lemme tutor you just small ako na Uche.

God gave man ability to do science but reserved some for his glory. Now if God has given man such gift, going to a doctor for cure is not bad but when the doctor applies what he knows and to no avail that is when you know that it is over to God.

For example, if you have malaria and it is diagnostically confirmed that it is malaria and the doctor gives you malaria drug and the symptoms refuse going and other analyses done shows that you are fine but yet dying common sense suppose to tell you that the malaria na God go heal am or death will patronise you.

Always pray for God's mercy.

Seun:

Electrical technicians climb electric power lines all the time without electrocution. The key is to have the power switched off before climbing it.

Setaje:



Whatever it is, I died believing in something that was actually there. that's my point!!!!!!