Godstraight:
Christians are not the only folk that celebrate a new year,the Chinese folk also participate

What is our business with the Chinese celebrating New Year? Does everyone doing something mean it is right?

I just told you that true christians do not hold worldly celebrations as they are not in line with God's word. New Year and Christmas were never mentioned in the bible. Before Jesus' betrayal, he had a last meal with his disciples called the last supper, which by instruction should be done every year to mark the remembrance of Jesus. New year and Christmas celebrations are the creation of unsatisfied humans, and are sin against God.

Read up Matthew 27:17-30

I'm just noticing that for you to show how enlightening, superior and knowledgeable you are to others, you have to bash what millions of people hold sacrant.

As for me luvmijeje the following are the reasons to be in his presence on the 31st of December

1. To show my appreciation for his grace over the year.

2. To give a magnificent dance for his love over the year.

3. To show him I'm not ungrateful of his faithfulness over the year.

4. To request that the latter year must be greater than the former.

5. To experience inexpressible joy and undescriable gladness.

And so much more.

If you have not given your life to Christ... .. .. you will never get it

claremont:
There are 2 evils holding Nigeria back, they are religion and corruption. These 2 evils are not mutually exclusive, one breeds the other i.e. everywhere you see one of them, if you look carefully, the other is hiding somewhere close.

Actually 3. Tribalism

BerryAnny:

Bruh,daht phrase of "New Year New Me" iz d most irritating phrase I hate 2 hear frm Nigerians,

lol. Another is 'cross over'. What are you crossing over? Abi na bottomless pit? Personally I do think its very good to attend a late service on 31st and an early service on 1st. Where I have an issue is when christians become fanatical about being in church at that 12midnight point. Its very good as well but don't look at it as a ritual and then call it cross over.

gagewonda:
Well as for me i went to church, closed by 8pm came home relaxed wit my family nd by 12am we all prayed as a family....this cross over craze pioneered by nigerian Pentecostal churches isnt rooted in the bible...unfortunately it's a culture dat the modern nigerian christian has embraced. ....happy new year folks

that word crossover feels more like a scam word.

For Me, it has more superstitious significance than spiritual...

I slept all through the night. No crossovering..

Odunharry:
show some love. .
Happy New Year to you all

Happy birthday brother! May all your dreams, goals and ambitions be fulfilled this year...Amen![quote]

doublezero7:



Happy birthday brother! May all your dreams, goals and ambitions be fulfilled this year...Amen!

Thanks brother.. More Grace and we will be celebrated. I pray our heart desires comes to Pass.

Go make more money and touch lives like you have never done.

Deicide:
To pray to Yahweh for a Better "Year" For Nigeria to be better than the last funny Enough it doesn't Work!!!

Am still waiting for when Nigerians would really realize that no God would come from up and start fixing your country for you... Its left to us jare...

Tell em.....me I usually sleep into the next year and wake up by midday

On point...by January 1st they 'll most probably return to their daily lives with some continuing their nefarious activities;the cross over service long since forgotten

Bisjosh:
Thats the wacked mentality of Nigerians

Overly religious but morally decayed

Even some people havent gone to church throughout this year....but would go to watch night.... for what exactly? Smh

Im going to pray at the comfort of my home.

2017 is tomorrow like another day.

[quote author=Neyoor post=52429862]Africans are just too religious. Infact, religion is over rated in africa. My mum and siblings have gone to church, Dad and step siblings are in the sitting room praying and singing at the expense of my own peace because they are just disturbing me. Jan 1st is like every other day to me.


Meanwhile, I will just enjoy their meat and foods tomorrow. [/quote

it's not just like any other day, it is just another day.
meanwhile, mods make una dey check d topic 4 errors b4 moving to fp na,,,*what are d significance*
cc lalasticlala

Neyoor:
Africans are just too religious. Infact, religion is over rated in africa. My mum and siblings have gone to church, Dad and step siblings are in the sitting room praying and singing at the expense of my own peace because they are just disturbing me. Jan 1st is like every other day to me.


Meanwhile, I will just enjoy their meat and foods tomorrow.

New Year's is just a holiday created by calender companies who don't want you reusing last year's calender.

People should stop treating New year's like some sort of life-changing event.
If your life sucked last year, it's probably still going to suck tomorrow.

#Fact.

OmaniPadmeHum:
People believe starting the new year in Church is a good thing. To them it signifies that they recognize that God should come first in peoples' lives.

The service is usually to thank God for being alive and experiencing the blessing of the out going year and the welcoming of the new one.

Usually, during the New year Service in many churches, the new year is dedicated to God and people seek Divine intervention for a smooth and problem free year.

Mind you, I am trying to justify whether they are correct or not. I am stating facts the way they are like a Sociologist would.

and d moment they step out they start cursing those shooting fireworks about
Swearing and all that and d normal everyday routine of lies, backbiting n all start again.
We are delusion people we dont set our priority right.everyday 4 me is crossover night!

luvmijeje:
I'm just noticing that for you to show how enlightening, superior and knowledgeable you are to others, you have to bash what millions of people hold sacrant.

As for me luvmijeje the following are the reasons to be in his presence on the 31st of December

1. To show my appreciation for his grace over the year.

2. To give a magnificent dance for his love over the year.

3. To show him I'm not ungrateful of his faithfulness over the year.

4. To request that the latter year must be greater than the former.

5. To experience inexpressible joy and undescriable gladness.

And so much more.

If you have not given your life to Christ... .. .. you will never get it

Please use scriptures only to show me where we can find his presence.

And all those things you listed, can't it be done daily, must it be at the end of the year in a certain place? Will it render all you have been doing null and void or less effective if you do not go to a certain gathering for the crossover.

teemy:
i see christians as the ones undermining the power of God. is he less potent in answering prayers on other days of the year compared to the crossover night? for some praying in the nude or repeating words over and over. that is religion over belief.

Interesting analysis

Odunharry:

Thanks brother.. More Grace and we will be celebrated. I pray our heart desires comes to Pass.

Go make more money and touch lives like you have never done.

Yea chief...Big amen to that!

My dad wanted to fight me yesterday because i said i ain't crossing over at the church. I love God and i won't let churches deceive me into believing there is something special about crossing over at the church. A vast majority a just Sheeps who don't know who God is or why he does what he does or how a proper relationship with God should be. Many believe that rules from the church will give them salvation. Many are Blinded. I hardly go to church, not because i don't love God but because i know that churches are misleading people. The talk about Prosperity 90% and Salvation 10%. Even When talking about salvation, they tell you the right things to do so you can please God. what they don't tell you is "NO MATTER HOW YOU PLEASE GOD, YOU CAN'T FOOL HIM . You crossed over at the church, but you still end up making the same old mistakes over and over. Your life doesn't get better even if you spend all your days in the church. It's God that heals, helps and saves. if you can't use your sense to create that relationship with God, no one will help you. We should stop deceiving ourselves and stop getting deceived by others. How can a Christian see someone in need but still decides to give the tithe to the church? Knowing the God doesn't use your money but sees you making that sacrifice by helping a fellow man and pleasing him(GOD) at the same time. I don't need a church or pastor to talk to God.

Please apply sense now, don't vex yet.

1. you know God is everywhere

2. You know he listens to prayers of your soul

3. You know everyday is for God

4. You know that Christ said no one goes to the father unless it's through him(Jesus)

SO PLEASE ENLIGHTEN ME, DID JESUS SAY NO ONE GOES TO THE FATHER UNLESS THROUGH THE CHURCH FIRST, THE JESUS HIMSELF?

IF YOU KEEP WAITING FOR A SPECIAL TIME TO THANK GOD OR TALK TO HIM, YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT IT MEANS TO BE A CHILD OF GOD

luvmijeje:
I'm just noticing that for you to show how enlightening, superior and knowledgeable you are to others, you have to bash what millions of people hold sacrant.

As for me luvmijeje the following are the reasons to be in his presence on the 31st of December

1. To show my appreciation for his grace over the year.

2. To give a magnificent dance for his love over the year.

3. To show him I'm not ungrateful of his faithfulness over the year.

4. To request that the latter year must be greater than the former.

5. To experience inexpressible joy and undescriable gladness.

And so much more.

If you have not given your life to Christ... .. .. you will never get it

Cross over bullshit.... if u like cross to anywhere... some people will cross over with knockouts and all sorts.. na for cross over u go see person wey never go church before dey come 31st december.. mtchew. change is from the mind not from cross over bullshit

To rededicate our lives to God, to renew our commitment to God, more power, grace auction to do His will, to unlock every closed in 2016, to break every curse that may want to raise its ugly heads in 2017

Boomark:


Please use scriptures only to show me where we can find his presence.

And all those things you listed, can't it be done daily, must it be at the end of the year in a certain place? Will it render all you have been doing null and void or less effective if you do not go to a certain gathering for the crossover.

Apologies for replying late.. .. .. I know you don't go to church.

Hebrew 10:12 says

And let us not neglect our meeting together, as some people do, but encourage one another, especially now that the day of his return is drawing near

By the way who told you I don't do it daily? Is there a crime in praising God everyday? Did God complain to you?

mavelos1o:
Please apply sense now, don't vex yet.

1. you know God is everywhere

2. You know he listens to prayers of your soul

3. You know everyday is for God

4. You know that Christ said no one goes to the father unless it's through him(Jesus)

SO PLEASE ENLIGHTEN ME, DID JESUS SAY NO ONE GOES TO THE FATHER UNLESS THROUGH THE CHURCH FIRST, THE JESUS HIMSELF?

IF YOU KEEP WAITING FOR A SPECIAL TIME TO THANK GOD OR TALK TO HIM, YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT IT MEANS TO BE A CHILD OF GOD

You know my problem with you... ... .. . I know you will be among those who don't praise God outside church talkless of inside Church.

To answer your question I do praise God outside the church and inside the Church.

So what's your problem in people wanting to serve God with fellow believers and listen more to God's words through his prophet?

luvmijeje:

Apologies for replying late.. .. .. I know you don't go to church.

Hebrew 10:25 says

And let us not neglect our meeting together, as some people do, but encourage one another, especially now that the day of his return is drawing near

By the way who told you I don't do it daily? Is there a crime in praising God everyday? Did God complain to you?

Apologies for saying this.....I know you can't deal with the truth.

I asked you a specific question, "where can we find his presence?" Show me with scriptures as back up.

I believe someone that goes to church should be able to show us this. What you presented is a quote on how good it is to meet together and encourage one another. "Meeting to encourage"

God is not happy with those who go to church but can't answer questions truthfully. Those who go to church but don't follow the footsteps of Christ in dealing in dealing with men. Please answer the question about "his presence," no hide and seek reply. If don't know, it will be an honour for you to say so. Trying to lie with lies brings ridicule.

Boomark:


Apologies for saying this.....I know you can't deal with the truth.

I asked you a specific question, "where can we find his presence?" Show me with scriptures as back up.

I believe someone that goes to church should be able to show us this. What you presented is a quote on how good it is to meet together and encourage one another. "Meeting to encourage"

God is not happy with those who go to church but can't answer questions truthfully. Those who go to church but don't follow the footsteps of Christ in dealing in dealing with men. Please answer the question about "his presence," no hide and seek reply. If don't know, it will be an honour for you to say so. Trying to lie with lies brings ridicule.

Chillax!

1st Cor 6:19

Or do you not know that your body is the temple of the Holy Spirit who is in you, whom you have received from God and you are not your own.

Meaning as long as you believe in the son His spirit is in you.

The same Bible Matt 18:20

For where two or three are gathered in my name, there am I among them.

Meaning God is also present in midst of those who gathered together for his namesake.

Why are you trying to discourage people from going to Church? The devil is indirectly using you.

luvmijeje:


Chillax!

1st Cor 6:19

Or do you not know that your body is the temple of the Holy Spirit who is in you, whom you have received from God and you are not your own.

Meaning as long as you believe in the son His spirit is in you.

The same Bible Matt 18:20

For where two or three are gathered in my name, there am I among them.

Meaning God is also present in midst of those who gathered together for his namesake.

Why are you trying to discourage people from going to Church? The devil is indirectly using you.

I see it has gotten to accusations and insults will soon follow. I will have to leave you since you now know who the devil is using. More reason why I keep distance from church goers. I asked you a question, you gave a wrong reply. Now you replied and added that the devil be using me indirectly. That is what the church is teaching people these day. How to use devil to intimidate people who ask questions. I for finish you with this your attitude but that's not how I planned to start this year. Asking you the question in the first place was a mistake, I did it reluctantly because I know how it is likely going to end up.

Boomark:


I see it has gotten to accusations and insults will soon follow. I will have to leave you since you now know who the devil is using. More reason why I keep distance from church goers. I asked you a question, you gave a wrong reply. Now you replied and added that the devil be using me indirectly. That is what the church is teaching people these day. How to use devil to intimidate people who ask questions. I for finish you with this your attitude but that's not how I planned to start this year. Asking you the question in the first place was a mistake, I did it reluctantly because I know how it is likely going to end up.

No vex.. .. .. ... . The devil is not using you. But what do gain from discouraging people from church? Their faith in God does not affect your lack of faith in him.

luvmijeje:


No vex.. .. .. ... . The devil is not using you. But what do gain from discouraging people from church? Their faith in God does not affect your lack of faith in him.

You are still accusing me wrongly. I would like you to show me where I discouraged people from going to church. Quote my post wherever it is in bold.

My lack of faith in God? Where are you getting all these things? I simply asked a question "where is his presence according to the scripture?" and you are still manufacturing all these things. I give up!

You are not the only one that love God. Over zealousness makes people lie atimes which is a sin. God hate lies whether you think you are defending him or not because he knew the one that started lying from the beginning...the father of lies.

Boomark:


You are still accusing me wrongly. I would like you to show me where I discouraged people from going to church. Quote my post wherever it is in bold.

You quoted me first to challenge my response to the original post. Obviously you're in cahoot with the OP who have issue with Christians going to church which lead me to my question.

You don't believe in it then why are you trying to discourage me?

luvmijeje:


You quoted me first to challenge my response to the original post. Obviously you're in cahoot with the OP who have issue with Christians going to church which lead me to my question.

You don't believe in it then why are you trying to discourage me?

I would have love it if you find that post that tried to discourage you. The Op is in form of question, mine is also a question. You said, his presence is the best place to cross over and I asked, "where is his presence...?"

Does that question in anyway sound discouraging? Which church do you attend sef?

Boomark:


I would have love it if you find that post that tried to discourage you. The Op is in form of question, mine is also a question. You said, his presence is the best place to cross over and I asked, "where is his presence...?"

Does that question in anyway sound discouraging? Which church do you attend sef?

This is your quote

Please use scriptures only to show me where we can find his presence.

And all those things you listed, can't it be done daily, must it be at the end of the year in a certain place? Will it render all you have been doing null and void or less effective if you do not go to a certain gathering for the crossover.

Your questions show you have issues with Christians who goes to church . Which leads to my question even if the Bible didn't say it.... .. . How does it affect your lack of faith in him?

I attends Baptist.

lifezone247:
In fact I'm in bar since, watching premier league games and still there watching Liverpool vs man city.
My wife just put a call through that I should make sure I'm home before 11pm so we can go to church for cross over night. Funny enough I don't go to church, in fact I did not attend single church service or programs throughout 2016.
Lalasticlala you dey go church so? Cos I knw say seun no dey go

Going to church should really be to celebrate God with other Christians. When you love someone, you want to be with the person, have conversations with the person, and generally get to know that person more. Same thing when you have a relationship with God. You want to know more about Him. Going to a bible believing church is one of the ways you get to know God more. Plus one gets to worship God with others. Not going isn't a sin as God will listen and talk to you wherever you are. Anyway, I love Jesus, but totally detest religion.

luvmijeje:


This is your quote

Please use scriptures only to show me where we can find his presence.

And all those things you listed, can't it be done daily, must it be at the end of the year in a certain place? Will it render all you have been doing null and void or less effective if you do not go to a certain gathering for the crossover.

Your questions show you have issues with Christians who goes to church . Which leads to my question even if the Bible didn't say it.... .. . How does it affect your lack of faith in him?

I attends Baptist.

And instead of answering those questions you want to solve my problem with those that go to church through accusation? Don't you see that the way you replied me is one of the problems I have with those that go to church. Besides those questions wants want to know if it crossover must be in the church.

And again, biko how did you know that I don't have faith in him? Did I say anything like that? Does faith in God belong to only those that attend church?

Ok Baptists. I want to start attending church, but attitudes of some people makes wonder if that is what churches now teach.