analice107:

No, why shd i? Only atheists do.

Am not JW , but wont jump to always spill trash because they believe and do things differently.


You guys are here spewing trash, why not start by posting how her Congregation is responsible for choice of death over blood.

I attend church, I have my Bible, i read it. What i don't understand, i ask the Holy Spirit.

I can't find where Jesus said, 'Do not take medication because you are my follower". My church is not against medication, but i personally do not take medication, because i feel i shd exercise my Believer's authority.
If am threatened and at a point of death, but insist on not taking medication, will you hold my church or Christ accountable?

Let me ask you hahn,

"Do you even know what is going on here?".
or do you think atheism or satanism gives you the right to just know?.

Jehovah's Witnesses and blood transfusions
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Jehovah's Witnesses believe that the Bible prohibits ingesting blood and that Christians should not accept blood transfusions or donate or store their own blood for transfusion.[1] The belief is based on an interpretation of scripture that differs from that of other Christian denominations.[2] It is one of the doctrines for which Jehovah's Witnesses are best known.[3]

Watch Tower Society publications teach that the Witnesses' refusal of transfusions of whole blood or its four primary components—red cells, white cells, platelets and plasma—is a non-negotiable religious stand and that those who respect life as a gift from God do not try to sustain life by taking in blood,[4][5] even in an emergency.[6] Witnesses are taught that the use of fractions such as albumin, immunoglobulins and hemophiliac preparations are "not absolutely prohibited", and are instead a matter of personal choice.[5]

The doctrine was introduced in 1945, and has undergone some changes since then. Members of the religion who voluntarily accept a transfusion and are not deemed repentant are regarded as having disassociated themselves from the religion by abandoning its doctrines[7][8][9] and are subsequently shunned by members of the organization.[10] Although accepted by the majority of Jehovah's Witnesses, a minority does not endorse this doctrine.[11][12]

The Watch Tower Society has established Hospital Information Services to provide education and facilitate bloodless surgery. This service also maintains Hospital Liaison Committees, whose function is to provide support to adherents.

Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jehovah's_Witnesses_and_blood_transfusions

analice107:

Is this the Bible verse where Jesus commanded us not to transfuse blood or the demons in you won't just let you reason?

benzics:
How foolish can religious people be? The doctor should have transfused the blood by force, let's see what she would do after a successful childbirth

hopefulLandlord:


okay, Jesus didn't die on the cross?

hopefulLandlord:


I think reading seems to be a huge burden for Analice107

she just clicks "quote" then pulls a GIGO

hopefulLandlord:


Mynd44 sounds like he's ignorant of JW's antics

finofaya:


He did, after being thoroughly beaten. No autopsy was performed so we don't know the exact cause of death.

Mynd44:

And if she was willing to give her life rather that go against her faith who are we to condemn her for it? Seriously, the biggest problem here is that we just dont want to see people believe what they want and guess what? We are supposed to be liberals.


Funny aint it?

hahn:


Or he's being intellectually dishonest

hopefulLandlord:


Jesus committed assisted suicide

Mynd44:

Coming from a well known religious bigot who has no respect for people or what they believe in because he thinks he is smarter or more enlightened, I will rather be "intellectually dishonest" and respect the wishes of other people.

analice107:

He is being intellectually dishonest because he wont see thinhs the way you see them? So much for open mindedness. Hahn...

Mynd44:


"Open mindedness" when it pays them na.

analice107:

Here you are accusing Jesus of commuting assisted suicide. And, am saying, Past a passage on Jesu's teachings that enjoins his followers not to take blood.

You dey learn?

hahn:


The bible also reports that Jesus dying was part of god's plan. And Jesus was privy of it yet they came and died. That is suicide. Do you think drinking otapiapia is the only was to commit suicide?

finofaya:


He did change his mind at one point but he was coerced by the Father. I don't think he wanted to die.

hahn:


Lol. You mean to say sitting back and watching people commit suicide, commit murders(there are cases when JW parents refuse to have their kids receive blood transfusion and the kids died), label and victimize people(mostly the elderly) as witches, put faith over reason, exploit followers through tithes and offering, blow up innocent people in the same of religion and do nothing about it is the way to go?

hahn:


Open mindedness when someone commits suicide?

Mynd44:

I am well aware but is she physically tied to them? She made a choice, live with it. Does thay choice affect your life? Does it add or remove from your bank account?

hahn:


I already mention you with this article



It's the least I can do since Google does not work and you and mynd44's devices

hopefulLandlord:


so bros, we should wait till it affects our lives?

Mynd44:

And you are 100% sure the blood transfution will save her?

Please hold my fanta while I ROFLMFAO

hopefulLandlord:


did he die on the cross?

Mynd44:
Do what the doctors did. Respect her wishes

analice107:

And the JW elders were in the Hospital with when she refused blood?

The Amish sect in the U.S. till today refuse to accept civilization. They live their lives outside of civilization, no electricity, no internet. Nothing. You'll stand and condemn Christ for their ways because they claim they are Christ followers?

Must everyone be an atheist?

We know not everyone must be a Christian, i do my best to reach you with the gospel, if you reject, its on you. But won't do what u guys are bent on doing here.

Mind your business. You preach freethinking and open mindedness but you have the closest of minds. If someone doesn't see things your way, the person is closed minded. Biko gawa.

Mynd44:

So this is a case of suicide? Youre funny though.

Perhaps you should also go persecute people who decide to have their kids at home without and medical personnel around suicides or people who specifically say theu dont want medication during birth cos they want the pain suicide.

Leave people to their faith, no.

hahn:


But he is his father. Remember the trinity? HOw can he be coerced by himself? Unless you want to say his father murdered him

Mynd44:

And you are 100% sure the blood transfution would have saved her?

Somebody pease hold my fanta while I ROFLMFAO

analice107:

And the JW elders were in the Hospital with when she refused blood?

The Amish sect in the U.S. till today refuse to accept civilization. They live their lives outside of civilization, no electricity, no internet. Nothing. You'll stand and condemn Christ for their ways because they claim they are Christ followers?

Must everyone be an atheist?

We know not everyone must be a Christian, i do my best to reach you with the gospel, if you reject, its on you. But won't do what u guys are bent on doing here.

Mind your business. You preach freethinking and open mindedness but you have the closest of minds. If someone doesn't see things your way, the person is closed minded. Biko gawa.

hopefulLandlord:


this feels a bit awkward, probably due to me seeing you getting involved for the first time

what's your point exactly?

finofaya:


The trinity is three persons. Neither one is the other.

hahn:


How would you describe this? And how come parents, mostly in the US and UK, who have allowed their kids to die simply because of their "faith" get arrested and charged with murder?

Read more stories @

When A 14-Year-Old Chooses To Die Because Of Religion, Can Anyone Stop Him?
http://kuow.org/post/when-14-year-old-chooses-die-because-religion-can-anyone-stop-him

Jehovah's Witnesses' (WTS) opposition to blood transfusions
http://www.religioustolerance.org/witness11.htm



Stay focused.



The same way they knock on doors to encourage people to follow their doctrines? In my neighborhood there is a swarm of JW preachers going around spreading the "word" so more people can join them in their stupidity. Tell them to keep their bullshit to themselves and leave other people alone and we will do the same

hahn:


How would you describe this? And how come parents, mostly in the US and UK, who have allowed their kids to die simply because of their "faith" get arrested and charged with murder?

Read more stories @

When A 14-Year-Old Chooses To Die Because Of Religion, Can Anyone Stop Him?
http://kuow.org/post/when-14-year-old-chooses-die-because-religion-can-anyone-stop-him

Jehovah's Witnesses' (WTS) opposition to blood transfusions
http://www.religioustolerance.org/witness11.htm



Stay focused.



The same way they knock on doors to encourage people to follow their doctrines? In my neighborhood there is a swarm of JW preachers going around spreading the "word" so more people can join them in their stupidity. Tell them to keep their bullshit to themselves and leave other people alone and we will do the same