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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Marilo(m): 11:53am On Feb 28, 2017
marylandcakes:


What other recommendations does one require @muyesky comes highly recommended by a few people who I have a lot of respect for on this thread. The pictures of his work are highly professional. PLEASE NOTE I never said he defrauded me . He has jus treated my project non chalantly. And keeps giving flimsy excuses.

I have used a few people on nairaland due to recommendations e.g nairalandlawyer and sezgy ( the Abuja guy) no problems. When sezgy was in Benin he even helped me to check on my site take pictures and send to me. I am still waiting to buy him a drink.

In the western world people rely on other people's reviews to make informed decisions. What is wrong with Nigerians?


I am sorry, what you narrated above is called FRAUD....

The accused has a right to defend himself though but don't go subtle by going "PLEASE NOTE I never said he defrauded me . He has jus treated my project non chalantly. And keeps giving flimsy excuses.".

The same way we are purging/riding Nigeria off people who steal our commonwealth,let us get rid of people who are after other people's sweat as a means of livelihood.

Please not, the accused stands innocent until proven otherwise.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by marylandcakes: 11:59am On Feb 28, 2017
Marilo:


I am sorry, what you narrated above is called FRAUD....

The accused has a right to defend himself though but don't go subtle by going "PLEASE NOTE I never said he defrauded me . He has jus treated my project non chalantly. And keeps giving flimsy excuses.".

The same way we are purging/riding Nigeria off people who steal our commonwealth,let us get rid of people who are after other people's sweat as a means of livelihood.

Please not, the accused stands innocent until proven otherwise.

I stand by every thing I said, he has delayed my project , I need him to deliver the goods as agreed or he will not be getting his balance.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by back2sender: 11:59am On Feb 28, 2017
marylandcakes:


What other recommendations does one require @muyesky comes highly recommended by a few people who I have a lot of respect for on this thread. The pictures of his work are highly professional. PLEASE NOTE I never said he defrauded me . He has jus treated my project non chalantly. And keeps giving flimsy excuses.

I have used a few people on nairaland due to recommendations e.g nairalandlawyer and sezgy ( the Abuja guy) no problems. When sezgy was in Benin he even helped me to check on my site take pictures and send to me. I am still waiting to buy him a drink.

In the western world people rely on other people's reviews to make informed decisions. What is wrong with Nigerians?

Let me first start with your phrase what is wrong with Nigerians. Simple! A lot of them dont have values or morals any longer.
On the not a fraud angle you raise, when someone decides to use an inferior material to do the work you gave him when you have earlier agreed on the right material to use and even trying to play a fast but your sharp uncle caught him. What do you call this? Honesty!!!!
My sister leave matter for martha.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by marylandcakes: 12:07pm On Feb 28, 2017
back2sender:

Let me first start with your phrase what is wrong with Nigerians. Simple! A lot of them dont have values or morals any longer.
On the not a fraud angle you raise, when someone decides to use an inferior material to do the work you gave him when you have earlier agreed on the right material to use and even trying to play a fast but your sharp uncle caught him. What do you call this? Honesty!!!!
My sister leave matter for martha.

I agree with you a 100%

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by back2sender: 12:14pm On Feb 28, 2017
marylandcakes:


I agree with you a 100%
I have a project am doing and know how resources can be a challenge, so i feel bad anytime i come across people feeling disatisfied after giving a job to people and a poor or not too satisfactory job is carried out. I dont need to know the client or where he comes from before i will come hard on the contractor or say my mind
Nigeria economy is very challenging this moment so money no dey yanfu yanfu like before and evry one in a way or 2 are feeling the pain.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by back2sender: 12:16pm On Feb 28, 2017
Oga 3strikes you missed the party. I remain loyal

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by 3strikes: 12:31pm On Feb 28, 2017


@ Osaz, jeftalene / jvexpat.....pls note that Bosun (Brabus) started this way. Be very careful. Make amends now. Your responses are beginning to make you look cocky, rude and unapologetic. These will sink you faster than you thought. If I lie go ask Brabus.

This is your time to make amends
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jeftalene:


Why not pm JVExpat and ask to meet him personally and take you to his site at least to confirm if m not working on his project at the moment. Must everybody support the complainant and dismiss d accused just to feel sympathetic. I bliv in evidence not assumptions.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by 3strikes: 12:41pm On Feb 28, 2017

"Trust is very expensive.dont expect it from cheap people". Warren B.

With that being said, Naija is not a place to expect trust. You blink in naija, they will play a smart one on you.



back2sender:
We have advised alot of nlanders here to go the extra miles before engaging anyone here and not on trust or recommendations alone.
Even if person recommend Hajji agba to me as a reputable builder i will plant alot of minefield n red flags in my dealings with him. I used him as an example because even if the person has is kind of xter and honesty you still do not let Guide down. Trust is very expensive in Naija
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by money121(m): 1:01pm On Feb 28, 2017
Thanks my loyal Nairalanders for the Trust....
Kindly call/WhatsApp 080-85-310-359 for your next Roofing Project...

Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by mavverick: 1:07pm On Feb 28, 2017
Mr Osaz,

You dont know me, and I do not know you personally although I have been reading your articles for years and posted them here a few times. I am sure you know or have heard of Brabus BOSUN SHOYOYE, look at him now ?? !! An accuse before a magistrate court on a criminal matter. He was once the envy of a few with so many fancy google pictures and sub-standard practices, wetin camera sabi. Camera will just be taking pictures because thats what you tell it to do, but we do not know the quality of what he was doing.

Anyway, make amends with your client/former client and sort this thing out, don't be arrogant or silly with your comments. If you have done wrong, apologise/move on and learn from it. If you feel there is some kind of misunderstanding, you are a grown man and I would expect you to sort it out. These name calling/abuse is one that happens as a last resort when other peaceful means have been exhausted.

jeftalene:


Why not pm JVExpat and ask to meet him personally and take you to his site at least to confirm if m not working on his project at the moment. Must everybody support the complainant and dismiss d accused just to feel sympathetic. I bliv in evidence not assumptions.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by mavverick: 1:08pm On Feb 28, 2017
Abeg stop this advertisement, if people want to buy your product, the quality will speak for itself instead of all these preposterous recommendations, off a faceless forum.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 1:35pm On Feb 28, 2017
jeftalene:


You are actually making a fool of yourself, not me. Just looking for names to call. Inability to interprets simple matters and check the merit of a case. Typical of zombies.

There's only one fool here and it's you.

You're also a fraud.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 1:37pm On Feb 28, 2017
money121:
Thanks my loyal Nairalanders for the Trust....
Kindly call/WhatsApp 080-85-310-359 for your next Roofing Project...

I wouldn't buy one screw from you.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 1:41pm On Feb 28, 2017
back2sender:

Let me first start with your phrase what is wrong with Nigerians. Simple! A lot of them dont have values or morals any longer.
On the not a fraud angle you raise, when someone decides to use an inferior material to do the work you gave him when you have earlier agreed on the right material to use and even trying to play a fast but your sharp uncle caught him. What do you call this? Honesty!!!!
My sister leave matter for martha.

It's fraud. Final answer.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 1:54pm On Feb 28, 2017
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by kopell: 2:06pm On Feb 28, 2017
marylandcakes:

@Myesky I think I have been more than patient with you, I never wanted to bring this out on this forum but you have given me no choice. You took on the contract to supply galvanised protectors to my site in November 2016, The agreement was 50% down payment, 25% on delivery and balance of 25% once everything has been installed and okay.
You hadn't even completed the first part of the bargain when you started asking for more money to which I refused saying we should stick to what we agreed. You delayed my project and only brought some of the stuff to site about two weeks ago. You brought substandard materials to site and my Uncle who is managing my project ask you to return them. You promised to rectify and during this process my uncle caught you trying to sneak in the substandard metal and you had to remove it.
Despite the fact that you didn't deliver all the goods you were still paid the 25% , you have now been paid 75% of the money.

You were supposed to have delivered these goods before the plasterers finished their jobs early December. The plastering job finished and I had to call them back to site and pay extra but now because of your inability to deliver all the goods as agreed they are getting frustrated and have threatened to abandon the job.

I have also had to increase my original fees for my Alluminium man because of your delay the products have increased in the market. I don't really want to get into a slanging match with you and please stop giving pathetic excuses like school fees and all sorts. I will give you till the end of this week if you don't deliver you can forget your balance I will use that to hire someone else to get the job done.

You create such a professional image on here but you are not based on my dealings with you I am very disappointed in you and will not be touching you with a badge pole ever again.
Again what is wrong with most of these guys for God sake? Why, why, why? Everybody want be millionaire over night....
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by kopell: 2:06pm On Feb 28, 2017
marylandcakes:

@Myesky I think I have been more than patient with you, I never wanted to bring this out on this forum but you have given me no choice. You took on the contract to supply galvanised protectors to my site in November 2016, The agreement was 50% down payment, 25% on delivery and balance of 25% once everything has been installed and okay.
You hadn't even completed the first part of the bargain when you started asking for more money to which I refused saying we should stick to what we agreed. You delayed my project and only brought some of the stuff to site about two weeks ago. You brought substandard materials to site and my Uncle who is managing my project ask you to return them. You promised to rectify and during this process my uncle caught you trying to sneak in the substandard metal and you had to remove it.
Despite the fact that you didn't deliver all the goods you were still paid the 25% , you have now been paid 75% of the money.

You were supposed to have delivered these goods before the plasterers finished their jobs early December. The plastering job finished and I had to call them back to site and pay extra but now because of your inability to deliver all the goods as agreed they are getting frustrated and have threatened to abandon the job.

I have also had to increase my original fees for my Alluminium man because of your delay the products have increased in the market. I don't really want to get into a slanging match with you and please stop giving pathetic excuses like school fees and all sorts. I will give you till the end of this week if you don't deliver you can forget your balance I will use that to hire someone else to get the job done.

You create such a professional image on here but you are not based on my dealings with you I am very disappointed in you and will not be touching you with a badge pole ever again.
Another one again, what is wrong with most of these guys for God sake? Why, why, why? Everybody want be millionaire over night....
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by mavverick: 2:10pm On Feb 28, 2017
I think one of the issues is that most people want to take on every work irrespective of whether its financially viable or not, and when they run into problems excuses start. I will respect an artisan if they said to me that sorry i cannot take on this work because of X Y Z, not to take it on and then start with stories afterwards.

kopell:
Another one again, what is wrong with most of these guys for God sake? Why, why, why? Everybody want be millionaire over night....

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by seunpinky(m): 2:47pm On Feb 28, 2017
Oga muyesky ur attention is needed here...
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Gbenke: 2:49pm On Feb 28, 2017
Hello house. I throw wey salute to all our eminent Engrs. You are all doing great jobs and Iam really enjoying you all. Well done Sir's.
Pls I will like to have a quote for the decking of a very small duplex (18x36) ft with the stair case.
Thanks a lot house as I look forward to hearing from soon soon.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by AngelicBeing: 2:53pm On Feb 28, 2017
EgunMogaji:


I wouldn't buy one screw from you.
grin grin grin
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 3:08pm On Feb 28, 2017
How much do you guys estimate that it should cost to roof this 10x14 foot structure?

Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by 3strikes: 3:23pm On Feb 28, 2017
I swear this response gat me rolling on the floor. May I ask why? grin grin grin grin grin grin


EgunMogaji:


I wouldn't buy one screw from you.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by 3strikes: 3:26pm On Feb 28, 2017
Just 8 days ago I wrote this........not knowing the chickens are still coming home to roast. grin grin grin grin grin

3strikes:

I just want to use this opportunity to thank everyone who fought tirelessly on this thread to fight fraud and fraudsters........pls know that your efforts are not in vain. ......its been over 10 months now and no new cases of fraud. This should count for something and you should all be proud of yourself. You sanitized the thread.

There was a time....new week, new fraud case.

Anyways you all should have a good week.



Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by lastpage: 5:01pm On Feb 28, 2017
hoyo:
@MR jvexpat, am sure engr osaz is not banned on NL and should have come here to defend himself not by proxy; both of them met here on NL and can be sorted here, all you type there is bullcrap. I hate when contractors start making silly excuses...

Hmm! Nairaland Contractor again! angry angry

Infact, l had to physically restrain myself from responding to that post because l have decided that its not worth the effort, attending to Nairaland contractual issues anymore!
Just imagine all the endless "assumptions, may-be's" in that response! ....... and to think it was coming from a third-party? angry angry

Trusting a Nairaland Contractor 100%, based on what "someone said" is dangerous and should be taken with a pinch of salt because l have come to realize that people pass these "vote of confidence" for all sort of reasons, some personal and some have even made it a "habit" of passing this vote of confidence on every Tom, Dike and Hillary because it also makes their own way "smooth" (l did not say any other thing o!) when it comes to their own jobs.

Every Client needs to "act like" you are dealing with an "untrustworthy charlatan", from day one,.... and ensure that the contract is "tight enough" such that if the Contractor starts acting funny, he lands himself in the Cell, No long story.
On the other hand, if he plays by the "contract rules", pay him his due and every one is happy,

I was wondering, why did he reverse himself to the originally agreed price, (after requesting for more money so he can use mechanised drill) ... if that is not a red flag?

BTW:
Anyone/Everyone that wants to/works for me, knows that l pay three times 30%, 30%, 40% on work completion. Take it or leave it
but they also know that before l hand out a project, the total sum payable is just an ATM or Online transfer away.

The reason they cant use their own money to start a project (so the Client see it on-going and then pays them for job done) is because most of them dont even hope to complete the job! They just want to get "advance fee" here and there and then begin to pressure the Client for more...after which they would either try to swindle the customer or abandon the job.

I feel for this Client.



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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by back2sender: 5:10pm On Feb 28, 2017
seunpinky:
Oga muyesky ur attention is needed here...
He has apologized to the client and Promise to make amends which is very good Unlike the twatt of a contractor that calls himself Jefthelene
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by lastpage: 5:10pm On Feb 28, 2017
EgunMogaji:


It's fraud. Final answer.

Even if you "call-a-friend", it is still Just FRAUD! angry

Anything that deviates from doing a job within specified time schedule and material at agreed price is FRAUD!

Fraud is Fraud, no other 'fancy names' to call it.



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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by hoyo: 5:16pm On Feb 28, 2017
back2sender:

He has apologized to the client and Promise to make amends which is very good Unlike the twatt of a contractor that calls himself Jefthelene
and where did he apologise? offline? you were the one complaining about jephtalene just now for doing proxy messages now you doing same for muyeski? wehdone sir grin grin grin

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by NL1960: 5:49pm On Feb 28, 2017
hoyo:

and where did he apologise? offline? you were the one complaining about jephtalene just now for doing proxy messages now you doing same for muyeski? wehdone sir grin grin grin

https://www.nairaland.com/1410552/security-armored-doors-burglary-proofs/40
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 6:03pm On Feb 28, 2017
Marilo:


I am sorry, what you narrated above is called FRAUD....

The accused has a right to defend himself though but don't go subtle by going "PLEASE NOTE I never said he defrauded me . He has jus treated my project non chalantly. And keeps giving flimsy excuses.".

The same way we are purging/riding Nigeria off people who steal our commonwealth,let us get rid of people who are after other people's sweat as a means of livelihood.

Please not, the accused stands innocent until proven otherwise.

better send me my drink ooo via dhl, i am based in lagos now
please whatever it is between you and muyesky, please let it go.
Thank you.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by back2sender: 6:06pm On Feb 28, 2017
hoyo:

and where did he apologise? offline? you were the one complaining about jephtalene just now for doing proxy messages now you doing same for muyeski? wehdone sir grin grin grin
Maryland cakes also threw the jabs in muyesky thread and thats where i saw the apologies, 3strikes also made a comment advising muyesky to make amend with Maryland cakes.
I dont just comment, check out muyesky thread
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 7:15pm On Feb 28, 2017
lastpage:


Even if you "call-a-friend", it is still Just FRAUD! angry

Anything that deviates from doing a job within specified time schedule and material at agreed price is FRAUD!

Fraud is Fraud, no other 'fancy names' to call it.

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You know our people now. When the sitting president says stealing is not corruption on national TV.

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