mavverick:


A friend of mine usually says that with construction in Nigeria, look at it like you are asking them to build a car, you have got to tell them that the car needs 4 tyres, windows, a steering, engine, controls, electrics etc. you may laugh, but take this advice and keep it in your tight fist.

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The way JVExpat narrated the whole story gave him up. This is more than relaying a message...jvexpat = osaz

JVExpat:




I just spoke with Osaz over the phone immediately I saw this because for me, i was shocked and my principle is to hear two sides of a story. Having personally contracted some jobs to him which in all sincerity he delivered perfectly, including a multi-storey building project we are currently developing in the same axis. He has so far lived up to expectation.

Btw, I am a real estate developer, practicing for over 15 years now and based on my industry knowledge and versatility, I did a thorough background check on Engr Osaz and got good recommendation from all quarters, including the relevant professional bodies. Infact this is the first time I'm reading otherwise about him.

Based on his explanation over the phone and your post here, this issue is purely that of misunderstanding and could easily have being resolved on a round table.
You contracted him to construct pile foundations but didnt specify that he must use a machine. He decided to use manual method which is not necessarily a bad option but i feel it may be slower. Personally I have seen manual method being used for boring piles of that width up to 15m depth but you or your supervising engineer refused, then he asked for an upward cost review if you insist on the use of machines, you also declined, he then in good faith and to build client relationship had to mobilized a machine to site which was not his, since his own was faulty at the time and according to him, he informed you about everything. He still retained his workmen on site to monitor the activities of the new machine operator, after giving them specific instructions which they adhered to.

According to him, He made quasi-dry mix concrete with adequate concrete mix ratio, which your supervising engineer refused for whatever reason. His men worked the reinforcement well and mix the concrete properly to instruction. He was on the site everyday since the machine was mobilized but didnt always stay on site all day. Again, I don't think that's much of a problem since i don't expect that a contractor should be micro-managed inasmuch as he already have site representatives there.

Next, you said the machine operator downed tool after 26 points. He refuted that, saying the action was certainly stage-managed by the machine owner having released enough money to them to drill up to 35 points (which is about 78% of the job) but they stopped at 29 points . According to him, this could have being done in collusion with your supervising engineer who constantly asked for 'settlement' which he didn't give to him at the time. The idea may have been to hijack the project from him so they can sit on it. He sent me enough evidence on whatsapp to prove that anyway. The machine operator didn't stop while he was on site for about 4 hours that morning until he left the site to attend to issues elsewhere. That's enough reason to suspect a foul play!

Rather than allow him take up issue with the machine owner he himself brought and compel them to work, he said you simply transferred money to the machine owner in the midst of the crisis without his consent and asked that he stay off the site as you are now prepared to complete the project using his balance payment left with you. That was a very wrong action by basic contract law. He then said he called you and asked that if by any means in your quest to control the site yourself you happen to have spent above the balance of the contract sum left with you, he was willing to do a refund. But you told him not to worry about anything that you do not need any refund from him.

Although, he has shown enough maturity by promising not to join issues with you. That for me is enough respect for you sir. Some persons may rather take legal actions even based on this post. Resorting to blackmail the personality of this young gentle man is really unfair to him. For me, I still have no problems or issues with him so far on any of my sites, until he does otherwise.

3strikes:

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hoyo:
nice one MR olawale, i thought we have seen the end of fraud on NL property, didnt know another one is springing up, Engr Osaz, where @thou, come and answer your query....Nigerians and fraud na 5&6

back2sender:

Its very unfortunate the kind of business men we have in Nigeria.
The complainant gave an elucid explanation of what took place while the roguesta called osaz came up with another moniker JVEPAT to decieve himself and not us.
This is the reason a man in my hood method of engaging workers is great. He will only pay after the job has been finished and inspected, if you dont agree to his terms make you waka go else where and he said he had to do this after his trust has been abused repeatedly by contractor, Builders, artisans etc.

back2sender:
The chickens are coming home to roost. More revelations coming out!
Jefthelene, Muyesky,..... Still counting.
Its even more insulting when rather than accept and make amends, you will see them claiming no fault of thiers. Jefthelene or what ever you call yourself keep deceiving yourself and not us here.
Go and check what is the defination of fraud, if shifting the goal post in the middle of a game is not fraud then i wonder what it is.

back2sender:
The chickens are coming home to roost. More revelations coming out!
Jefthelene, Muyesky,..... Still counting.
Its even more insulting when rather than accept and make amends, you will see them claiming no fault of thiers. Jefthelene or what ever you call yourself keep deceiving yourself and not us here.
Go and check what is the defination of fraud, if shifting the goal post in the middle of a game is not fraud then i wonder what it is.

Not again, why cant some contractors / artisans abide by terms & conditions of agreed contractual obligations when they are given a job to do, they dont know that one negative comment is enough to close several opportunities and doors to them, what a shame, trust, trust and trust is an essential commodity in the book of some Nigerians.

jeftalene:



Kindly desist from calling me names. JVEpat is my Client andand he also has aright to his own opinions. If there is any roguesta in this matter as it stands now, its you! You swallow everything you read hook, line and sinker without crosschecking facts. Shows the kind of person you are.

AngelicBeing:
Not again, why cant some contractors / artisans abide by terms & conditions of agreed contractual obligations when they are given a job to do, they dont know that one negative comment is enough to close several opportunities and doors to them, what a shame, trust, trust and trust is an essential commodity in the book of some Nigerians.

AngelicBeing:
Not again, why cant some contractors / artisans abide by terms & conditions of agreed contractual obligations when they are given a job to do, they dont know that one negative comment is enough to close several opportunities and doors to them, what a shame, trust, trust and trust is an essential commodity in the book of some Nigerians.

back2sender:

Ole buruku! Your are a chameleon and its only CROOKS that exhibit this kind of behaviour. You cannot speak for yourself but JV expat speaking for you (we burst this angle) before you rear your thief thief head to do a recant. Its too late carry your story to the marines and not us here.

jeftalene:


You are actually making a fool of yourself, not me. Just looking for names to call. Inability to interprets simple matters and check the merit of a case. Typical of zombies.

back2sender:

A Zombie is better than a THIEF WHICH YOU ARE

jeftalene:


Who cares about what you think? You also have right to your own opinions. Always spewing trash!

Let me get you busy. The question now is what terms and conditions did I not abide by? Kindly enumerate

jeftalene:


Now you resort to insult, taking panadol for another man's headache. That's how shameless you have become.

jeftalene:


Now you resort to insult, taking panadol for another man's headache. That's how shameless you have become.

jeftalene:


Good observation, the question now is what terms and conditions did I not abide by? Kindly enumerate

back2sender:

See Jefthelene the fraudster asking questions, you have lost your right to ask questions here.
A thief who called himself a builder who collected money from a client and did not get the job done.
Jefthelene is a crook!

jeftalene:


Good observation, the question now is what terms and conditions did I not abide by? Kindly enumerate

Address this issues raised by your dissatisfied client, instead of your back and forth here, mellow down and reach out to your client with an olive branch, if need be, apologize and if you have to do restitution to him for the sake of future projects, go ahead and do it

olawale100:
I am based in Nigeria.

His own is not a case of fraud but it is a case of ;

1. Irresponsibility - Abandoning site and duty.

2. Misinformation - Not specifying the type of drilling (Hand drill) and mixing (hand mix as against concrete mixer) method

3. Unprofessional - Subcontracted the job without ensuring the project is seen through.

Like I mentioned, I had paid 78% of project cost, and the balance 22% was used to pay the drillers. The project cost me more eventually I had to pay for concrete mixer for 7 days and paid for casting of 12 pile points. My finger was burnt but not so much. If I did not know one or two things about buildings, I would have been dealt a bad blow.

I actually sent a mail to him that I will post on Nairaland.

Marilo:


Can you in all honesty disprove the fact that jeftalene is not JVexpat? Look,there are no fools here,okay? If you think you can pool wool over anybody's eyes,some of us are trained to smoke out people like you who are not smart enough to cover up your action/inaction.

I will advise you to do what is necessary (even if it takes you some extra quid off your pocket). Some of us sit on the fence and see people like you feed fat on other people's sweat and you still have the effrontery to come and claim saint. That is an insult on the collective interest of all hardworking people here.

I don't know you or any of the parties involved in this case but I am interested (maybe more than interested) in at least nailing one of those people who think being a "professional" on nairaland is a licence to feed fat on people's hard earned money.

Do the needful,this is no time for lame excuses!

jeftalene:


Why not pm JVExpat and ask to meet him personally and take you to his site at least to confirm if m not working on his project at the moment. Must everybody support the complainant and dismiss d accused just to feel sympathetic. I bliv in evidence not assumptions.

jeftalene:


Why not pm JVExpat and ask to meet him personally and take you to his site at least to confirm if m not working on his project at the moment. Must everybody support the complainant and dismiss d accused just to feel sympathetic. I bliv in evidence not assumptions.

AngelicBeing:
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Address this issues raised by your dissatisfied client, instead of your back and forth here, mellow down and reach out to your client with an olive branch, if need be, apologize and if you have to do restitution to him for the sake of future projects, go ahead and do it

jeftalene:


Lol...go and read the storyline again, the job was actually completed. See ur life?

Abeg let me concentrate on the ongoing project abeg. Dont have dat largesse of time for a confused attention seeker.

back2sender:
We have advised alot of nlanders here to go the extra miles before engaging anyone here and not on trust or recommendations alone.
Even if person recommend Hajji agba to me as a reputable builder i will plant alot of minefield n red flags in my dealings with him. I used him as an example because even if the person has is kind of xter and honesty you still do not let Guide down. Trust is very expensive in Naija